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tailz
14-01-2004, 09:45 PM
heyz i was wondering if itz worth dropping a B16a2 or B16B engine on the 2nd generation integra (Da6) ...

what benifit and downfall will there be from this conversion ?? and how hard will it be ??

i am willing to do this if not import a JDM Da6 coz i cannot find information on the aust delievered teg and what engines was released on them ... and i heared they never came out with the B16a here in aust ...

any help would be greatly appreciated ...

Spunkymonkey
15-01-2004, 09:53 AM
that's right. The AU delivered 2nd gen teg was not released here with the B16a. They were available in japan badged as Xsi. You can do the swap...main benefits would be the 2nd gen teg is not as heavy as EK civic. My cousin's have done this swap in their old teg, and have now sold it.

The AU delivered ones came with the the b18a motor. Actually the 2nd gen tegs with the b18a do go alright too.

I believe you will have problems trying to import that model unless its a personal import. Although check with an import place, the laws are always changing.

Redteg
15-01-2004, 03:26 PM
In terms of difficulty, it sounds like it would be a relatively easy swap, as you're swapping over B-Series motors, i think the only issue can be with the year of the engine chosen, as some trannies are hydro, whilst others are cable driven. I'm not sure which the G2's have. I'd assume cable, but I dont wanna lie. Mine is automajic.

I really don't know all that much, www.g2ic.com is a good source of info

Chronos
15-01-2004, 10:27 PM
You are correct. The Gen2 Integra's have a cable clutch system.

What about a B18C swap? Would this be a better idea over a B16A?

tailz
16-01-2004, 01:23 AM
okies well thanks alot for the help and infos guyz ...

greatly appreciated ...

[ tailz ]

*EDIT* ... okies i just found this website
http://www.importreview.com/reviews/lsvtec.html

and i was wondering if itz worth sticking a B18C1 or similar Vtec Head into a stock B18A buttom end block ?? i know itz not cheap, but would this be a better option than dropping a whole Vtec block which might be a mounting trouble ??

Redteg
16-01-2004, 06:24 AM
LS/VTEC conversions are very popular in the States, and from what I have heard are reliable if done properly. You get the best of both worlds; bottom end torque as well as top end power. Where's ALLMTR when you need him...

I don't think a VTEC block would have any mounting problems whatsoever. People have even fit in the new RSX motors by the use of a custom mount kit.

tinkerbell
16-01-2004, 12:15 PM
b20vtec goes alright in my DA ;)

Redteg
16-01-2004, 02:14 PM
PICS please!!!!

tinkerbell
16-01-2004, 02:46 PM
pics what of?

a VTEC engine in a DA? not that exciting...

well, here's a really bad pic just after a wash:

http://forums.clubrsx.com/gallery/data/500/11985nov_teg03.jpg?4833

Redteg
16-01-2004, 10:21 PM
Pics are always exciting!

tailz
17-01-2004, 01:13 AM
btw with the LS/Vtec on a DA6 ... i would need the loom and ecu that comes with the Vtec head yeah ??

b16a_integra
20-01-2004, 10:56 PM
i have been told that the ls/vtec is just as expensive as doing an engine swap anywayz, its up to you, depending if you have any decent maechanics that konw about hondas and the ls/vtec conversion otherwise id stay away from it. i have a jdm b16a sittin in the b/yard witin to go in my ls teg. i have big plans. but so does averyone. i would really like to do the b20 conversion. but i didnt know about it when i got the half cut. anyway man your car will be tough once the conversion is done, which ever one you choose.

Redteg. how have you lowered your car, it looks really low in the avatar, have you used coil-overs or springs????

Redteg
20-01-2004, 11:49 PM
For my avatar I have used my mad photoshop skillz yo!

Fat people can also lower your car like that.

Andrewv
21-01-2004, 08:03 AM
I have a DA6 Integra 1/2 cut with a B16a Vetec and 5 sp box if anyone is interested. Nice straight cut. $2000

mooshie
21-01-2004, 07:12 PM
I thought that in australia we only got the DA9 2nd gen teg and the DA6 is the american GSR with the B17? anyway i got a B18C in my gen 2 the mounts are almost exactly the same slight mods were required to the front one and air con piping had to be modified also clutch cable. make sure you get a cable tranny from an early model b16 or you can just use your existing b18a box although the shorter ratios on the b16 are very nice. my swap cost $4987 Australian but i was lucky cos i found a B18c with no gearbox, usually they won't split them and you will have to sell the hydro box for the swap. Wiring the new ecu is a head**** too!

tinkerbell
22-01-2004, 08:37 AM
no.

DA6 = JDM

FORGED
07-02-2006, 11:17 AM
I was in the same predicament as you not too long ago. I bought a 1989 da6 with a b18 (auto non-vtec) because b18c(type r) engines are supposed to be an easy swap. I ended up getting a hold of a k20a(type r, jap spec, 6 speed, 260hp at the fly) and have just mounted it in the bay of my da6. Will keep you posted on its progress if you are keen.

FR33K
07-02-2006, 12:22 PM
this thread is 2 years old !!! but anyway k20 in a da9 !!
i would love to see that !! hurry and post picsssssss

majic777
07-02-2006, 01:06 PM
..... who cares about pics... i wanna see a video of you 'testing' itttt!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

LO_N_SXC
08-02-2006, 10:05 AM
Have not had a chance to read all of the above info but there are these guys in the States called Golden Eagle they sell many products for the LS/Vtec conversion, I was looking at doing this back some time ago but I head of people having problems with this conversion thats waht put me off but if I had the money to spend I would either go for this or drop a B18C like mooshie has done.

link> http://www.robearracing.com/pd_golden_eagle_full_vtec_conversion.cfm

kronjp
17-02-2006, 03:48 AM
You might be better off selling and buying one already converted or imported. Would save you a lot of hassle and $ but in doing a conversion you learn heaps so hard call.
Saw this one on the Liberty site fitted with the standard b16a.
http://www.rslibertyclub.org/forums/showthread.php?p=607484#post607484

FR33K
24-02-2007, 02:52 PM
I was in the same predicament as you not too long ago. I bought a 1989 da6 with a b18 (auto non-vtec) because b18c(type r) engines are supposed to be an easy swap. I ended up getting a hold of a k20a(type r, jap spec, 6 speed, 260hp at the fly) and have just mounted it in the bay of my da6. Will keep you posted on its progress if you are keen.


bump bump bump what ever happened to this ??

wkdteg
24-02-2007, 11:49 PM
LoL wow... ive never seen this thread!
k20a in a da... i wanna c damnit!
FR33K.. .u must of been really bored dude!

IZY-10
26-02-2007, 08:30 PM
wheres da pics. lo_n_sxc u should see your car now the guy has f$#*@ed it up

wkdteg
26-02-2007, 08:38 PM
wheres da pics. lo_n_sxc u should see your car now the guy has f$#*@ed it up

danggg i wanna c pics of that!!

ACTI0NMAN-1
26-02-2007, 08:46 PM
lets all chant "lo_n_sxc, lo_n_sxc, lo_n_sxc, lo_n_sxc, lo_n_sxc"!

wkdteg
26-02-2007, 08:53 PM
LoL can he still hear us?!

wkdteg
16-03-2007, 11:22 PM
ahhh guys...:eek:
found this in honda-tech.com
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v498/FrescoGreenEG6/DA6%20XSi/Engine.jpg

right hand drive too... anybody we know?

IZY-10
16-03-2007, 11:30 PM
that is mad. The only problem i can see is the uneven weight in da front. Engine to far right, but then again the gear box apposes it!:thumbsup:

wkdteg
16-03-2007, 11:39 PM
i reckon thats ***n crazy!
alot of hard work has gone in2 that... i gotta c wat it looks like once its finished.
respect!
as for the weight issue, im sure a good set of coilovers will cure it. no big deal at the end of the day.
btw... how much is the weight diff between b18a and a k20a?

FR33K
17-03-2007, 09:57 AM
nah dude its in america... ive been watching that thread on g2ic for a good 6 months lol..

have a look through the general section and look for the thread on page 1 or 2 with about 94875498375 replies :P

i believe the weight diff is very minimal... if any

wkdteg
17-03-2007, 11:40 AM
dangg...
so wats with the right hand drive conversion? jdm wannab?

Mr_will
17-03-2007, 12:27 PM
heyz i was wondering if itz worth dropping a B16a2 or B16B engine on the 2nd generation integra (Da6) ...

.

im a bit confused, if you have an australian delivered teg, then you should have a da9, not a da6. what is your chassis code?

wkdteg
17-03-2007, 12:36 PM
i think he assumes the 2nd gen code is da6 not da9

180sx
17-03-2007, 01:10 PM
i put a JDM b16a into my DA9 last year, wasn't too bad, but if i have one more chance , i will get a B18C for sure !!!

tseesinngwailo
17-03-2007, 01:15 PM
I did the B16A conversion using a DA6 HAlf-Cut from Japan, I now have a great revving motor that still gives good economy, if I had to do it again I would go B18Cr but my next car will hopefully be a DC2r so that I dont have to stuff round converting. That said, it was great learning about everything while converting, and now I also have the full climate control dash. Get a half cut, it will save major headaches, and it pretty much just drops straight in, no stuffing round with engine mounts etc

lilwilliam
17-03-2007, 02:08 PM
i agree with ^ but dont u have a da6 atm i too have pretty much the same thing as him? but one question why would u want to put a aus spec b16a2 motor into a car which has a b16a JDM? since the da6 comes with b16a standard wouldnt u rather put a b18c into it instead?