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etcha
03-05-2005, 05:22 PM
hi guys just wana know if any1 has fitted the xforce headers (4-1) in a dc2r?
I just got them fitted and i dont like the nosie there making at 3k to 4k a real ugly farty nosie.
Can any1 help me out?

dc2r
03-05-2005, 05:30 PM
The only help I can offer is to go back to stock, or put some quality JDM headers on such as Toda, Mugen, or Spoon...

z3lda
03-05-2005, 05:38 PM
maybe its ur fart cannon.

edw-R
03-05-2005, 05:51 PM
Sell it. Buy JDM such as: Toda, Maxim works, Mugen.

etcha
03-05-2005, 06:25 PM
dont hav a cannon got some mugen muffler (on there when i got the car)

jords
03-05-2005, 07:07 PM
4-1 for the street isn't the best set up.

mr crex
03-05-2005, 09:40 PM
4-1 for the street isn't the best set up.
do you know from experience?

I have recently changed from AUSDM 4-2-1 DC2R headers to JDM 4-1 DC2R headers and I find absolutely no lack in low range power, much better mid range power and a s**t load better top end power.

I also live in the CBD of Adelaide and usually 3 times a day have to drive through inner city traffic and rarely rev the engine past 4000rpm and have noticed improvement in engine response and I am extremely happy with my upgrade.

as with the XForce headers... all I can say is you get what you pay for...

faijai
03-05-2005, 11:04 PM
agree with every 1 here.
scrap the xforce. u have a nice car so dont chuk rubbish on it. save up for sum quality branded headers.

i like the saying "do it right the first time"

djgarv
03-05-2005, 11:28 PM
what the other guys said.

it's a rule of life u get what u pay for

franki
04-05-2005, 07:45 AM
hondas are so well engineered that if u put the wrong thing. things start stuffn up or sounding crap. i say :honda: go quality if anything.

franki
04-05-2005, 10:14 AM
i was told that on the dc5r if you put a set of extractors itl give a whole gain of 1kw. is it really worth it. was the guy at the shop full of crap or was he serious. :honda:

tracer
04-05-2005, 10:36 AM
Would the X-Force 4-2-1 headers fitted into my 94' Dc2 Vti-R make much difference?
I know they say ~7-13 extra HP which is only 5kw or so... Is it that noticable?

franki
04-05-2005, 10:38 AM
there is other things u can do with the 500 bucks it cost for the extractors thatl gain. but it depends what else youve done. :honda:

tracer
04-05-2005, 10:47 AM
So far I have done cat-back zorst (im pretty sure its an old apexi one), cold air intake, lowered... So would the Xforce 4-2-1 be a good option for me to consider, taking into account the price of the item and the looks?

djgarv
04-05-2005, 11:08 AM
do you know from experience?

I have recently changed from AUSDM 4-2-1 DC2R headers to JDM 4-1 DC2R headers and I find absolutely no lack in low range power, much better mid range power and a s**t load better top end power.

I also live in the CBD of Adelaide and usually 3 times a day have to drive through inner city traffic and rarely rev the engine past 4000rpm and have noticed improvement in engine response and I am extremely happy with my upgrade.

as with the XForce headers... all I can say is you get what you pay for...

ditto. i just got JDM dc2r headers in mine and the change is...WHOA. there is improved power through the entire range...couldn't believe the difference

tracer
04-05-2005, 11:15 AM
Does this mean that JDM Type R headers are better than Xforce headers?
Or would they be the same? Or is xforce headers better than JDM headers, as one person said that they gained 1kw over stock meaning that xforce headers are 1% better than JDM headers?

franki
04-05-2005, 11:54 AM
it would imagine that it would make a big difference on ur car as its not a type r. but apparently the stock manifold on a dc5r is not worth replacing. :honda:

faijai
04-05-2005, 12:02 PM
x force headers fitte donto a dc5r with stock ecu will give arnd 5kw atw. IF IM CORRECT! dont quote me on it. saw a dyno graph on clubrsx but cant rememba the exact figures. with a hondata ecu is more.

etcha
04-05-2005, 12:09 PM
do xforce make 4-2-1 for dc2r's?

tegboy
04-05-2005, 12:13 PM
do xforce make 4-2-1 for dc2r's?

Yes all X-Force are 4-2-1.

etcha
04-05-2005, 12:16 PM
i got 4-1's put in yesterday

vtml
04-05-2005, 12:32 PM
Everyone one of you bag X-Force. I have a set for my DC2R, and I got gains as compared to my stock headers. For the price I paid, that's good enough for me.

In conclusion: XForce 4-2-1 > AUDM OEM 4-2-1

tegboy
04-05-2005, 01:54 PM
Much the same here, I did get increases, the fitment wasn't the best. But its on now and looking sweet in lovely shade of purple/gold!!

faijai
04-05-2005, 10:05 PM
its not about if u get gains or not, its about the quality.
jdm 4-1 headers costa rnd 650. get those if ur not willing to spend a shitload of $$.

mr crex
04-05-2005, 11:15 PM
yeah ... JDMYard & HondaR etc bring in JDM 4-1's for around the $800 mark and you know you're getting quality cos you're buying genuine Honda parts... and you know the R&D is there to back up the quality.

excellent bang for buck mod.

etcha
04-05-2005, 11:23 PM
do the jdm headers give the car a wrx rumble?
does any1 have the xforce 4-1 headers on a itr?

z3lda
04-05-2005, 11:26 PM
do the jdm headers give the car a wrx rumble?
does any1 have the xforce 4-1 headers on a itr?

does a integra type R have a rex rumble?
JDM ITR 4-1 = j-spec integra type R stock header

etcha
04-05-2005, 11:30 PM
well the xforce 1's gave my car more on a rumble thats y i wana know if it the design of the headers(4-1) or just the brand that i got

faijai
05-05-2005, 12:29 AM
xforce ehaders give the B16's a wrexy rumble. dunno abpout b18's

djgarv
05-05-2005, 01:37 AM
its not about if u get gains or not, its about the quality.


no offence to xforce but if u own a car that's as nice as a dc2r or dc5r it almost spoils it to skimp on mods as important as headers. performance wise, if they do achieve gains, that's great...but isn't it better to save up some more and get quality parts for a quality car?

TODA AU
05-05-2005, 05:39 AM
LOL... This thread is funny...

Seriously though, a set of 4~2~1 stainless headers for $350...
C'mon... How can you bag this product really?
Sure we don't reccomend them to guys who are serious about performance,
But there are a lot of guys who simply cannot afford top shelf headers.
In this respect, for the money, these headers do their job quite well.
It's not like they're expensive or something.

justinfox
05-05-2005, 07:05 AM
A rexy rumble?! LOL! **** man what a way to start the day! Great laugh!

franki
05-05-2005, 07:11 AM
its not about if u get gains or not, its about the quality.
jdm 4-1 headers costa rnd 650. get those if ur not willing to spend a shitload of $$.

of course its about gettin gains. y else would you get headers for. headers are all about go not show. if x force and jdm were the same price you would buy the one with most gains. wouldnt you? :honda:

nipnip
05-05-2005, 03:26 PM
if you ask me, the xforce is like the ultimate in bling! so shiny!

mr crex
05-05-2005, 04:13 PM
my car doesnt have a rexi rumble ... if you want a rexi rumble pull one of your ignition wires off and run on 3cyl lol

tracer
05-05-2005, 04:57 PM
REX Rumble???? Dont they make that noise because they have boxster engine.:confused:

etcha
05-05-2005, 05:32 PM
It just sounds like (similar) its not like if u hear it cuming ur going to say it a wrx

sharky
05-05-2005, 07:07 PM
go and buy a WRX if you want boxer rumble, or a big ass pod filter
:rolleyes:

As for xforce headers, i had some installed about a 3 weeks ago, and as far as performance goes i agree with you get what you pay for. They're chinese made...im not entirely happy with them but thats my foolish mistake. Gains are ok through the low - mid but **** all at the top. then again, i drive a GSi...

olda
05-05-2005, 08:12 PM
4-1 for the street isn't the best set up.

I second that!
Get 4-2-1 s/s headers.
Mugen (copy) headers on my 'R' work fine. :cool:

z3lda
05-05-2005, 09:52 PM
where did u get mugen copies from OLDA?

tegstar83
05-05-2005, 10:47 PM
but someone said b4 that they got gains with the x-force over stock R headers yeah right :rolleyes:

vtml
06-05-2005, 08:44 AM
but someone said b4 that they got gains with the x-force over stock R headers yeah right :rolleyes:

So are you saying I am lying? Read Adrian's post.

tegstar83
06-05-2005, 08:47 PM
All I have to say is X-force= CHEAP
HONDA OEM= QUALITY :thumbsup:

vti-r teg
07-05-2005, 02:56 PM
:thumbsup:
LOL... This thread is funny...

Seriously though, a set of 4~2~1 stainless headers for $350...
C'mon... How can you bag this product really?
Sure we don't reccomend them to guys who are serious about performance,
But there are a lot of guys who simply cannot afford top shelf headers.
In this respect, for the money, these headers do their job quite well.
It's not like they're expensive or something.

very good point, I agree.

Why buy a vti-r or a gsi instead of a type R? Not everyone can afford the best and to most people near enough is good enough! :)

10KRPM
07-05-2005, 09:36 PM
the wrx rumble is due to the uneven length of the extractors from the motor to the turbo.......If i can remember its the left hand side that has to go a longer distance then the right hand side, thus causing the uneven exhaust pulses and wrx rumble.

qup70c
09-05-2005, 07:25 AM
the wrx rumble is due to the uneven length of the extractors from the motor to the turbo.......If i can remember its the left hand side that has to go a longer distance then the right hand side, thus causing the uneven exhaust pulses and wrx rumble.

haha thats the 1st legit answer ive heard to that question! :p

racinghonda
09-05-2005, 08:01 AM
I thought the WRX rumble is more to do with the fact that its a boxer engine and the firing order of the cylinders are different to inline 4s. Same reason why the V4 in the Honda VFR800 bike sounds different to i4 bikes, or why V6 engines sound so different it i6s. Due to different firing order . . .