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trippy
18-01-2004, 10:26 AM
hi guys n guls
pls leave comments n recommendation, i have a 96 accord, and was wondering what would be the best value for money, either to turbocharge the existing engine or to swap or to swap it for a h22a.
Thanks :D

Chi
18-01-2004, 02:18 PM
what engine you have?

If it were me and i had teh money I'd get the h22a . keep it NA .

trippy
18-01-2004, 02:28 PM
its a f22b

A'PEXi
18-01-2004, 04:06 PM
best value... i would say the h22, keeping it na will stop insurance from bugging you... also creates more power than the current engine, and save you from making custom parts up for the turbo in the f22...

Calvo
18-01-2004, 05:01 PM
first of all, which model car do u have?

personally if u wanted to stay N/A, then go H22A, which will prob be cheaper and ur insurance shouldnt be too high.

but in all honesty, i think boost will give u more power gains, thats if u do the right setup and strengthen internals. however, it'll cost a fair bit and ur insurnce will suck balls.

trippy
18-01-2004, 05:47 PM
its a 96 accord calvo

poid
19-01-2004, 08:11 AM
you'll be making more power boosted even with stock internals

keep in mind if you go h22a you'll need to find a 96+ half cut, you cant use an older engine. Not saying these are hard to find, just something to keep in mind.

The question is, do you want to go NA or FI? The h22a will cost you less, thats for sure. It'll also make less power. If its done right the first time you'll probably have very few problems with it.

The turbo option on stock internals will cost 3-4k more than the h22a. You'll have more power and a much, much better torque curve. Again if done right it shouldnt give you many problems, but there is the potential for something to go wrong in a big way (ie, destroy the engine)

Also depends on how much of the work you can do yourself. If you install the h22a yourself then its quite a cheap upgrade (a front cut can be had for 2-2.5k)

Calvo
19-01-2004, 10:51 AM
its a 96 accord calvo
yeh EXI? Vti?

CHU85
19-01-2004, 05:29 PM
heya, when my car is finally done i'll tell u wat is really worth it.
in my opinion start with the h22a, then when u've got money do the turbo. works out to be better that way

trippy
19-01-2004, 08:43 PM
its a vti, thanks every1 for the suggestions, but unfortuantely i wouldnt have an space to do any of my own work so, i will have to get it all the work done in a workshop.

Spoon-Accord
19-01-2004, 09:00 PM
yo trippy sup buddy??
well.. get a H22a like i did.. then when u have cash...
got turbo.. or go N/A :P
either way u gonna have one hell of an accord

:P

Ken

PIN01S
20-01-2004, 11:38 AM
Hey guys just wondering....How much in total (for those who have done it) does it cost to do a H22A transplant?.... so i have an idea on how much im saving..... and how quick do the cars get?... i have a 94 Exi...

CHU85
20-01-2004, 05:46 PM
transplant will cost roughly $2k - $2.5k for front cut
500-900 to pull engine out and back in (depending on ur mechanic)
300-700 for new clutch system (if needed and recommended to replace)
roughly $500 to do wiring by professional $0 if u do it by urself
Oils, coolant, and rest of shit bout $200
If u don't get full headers ie. top half and down pipes on front cut which i doubt u'll do u'll have to use ur original down pipe and make new flanges for the h22a headers.

Thats about it.

If u do it all ur self ur just looking at buying the front cut, oils and clutch.

Cheers.

CHU85
20-01-2004, 05:47 PM
hey i forgot one thing.
Try not to go to a workshop!
Its cheaper if u go to ur mechanic

trippy
20-01-2004, 09:16 PM
thanks heaps chu85, that gives me a better idea of how much it is goin to set me back cause the mechanics wanted like $7000++ to do the total transplant.
Also chu85 did u replace all the belts in the car like when they do the 100,000km service on the h22a.
Hard to find the front cut in melb, and also any recommendations on what brakes to use on the car if i go ahead with either conversion, scared cant stop already have seen 1 of my frends car that was destroyed cause did a conversion but didnt do the brakes on the car.
Thanks for all the comments guy n guls.
We should try come up with a thread bout how to do a h22a conversion into a accord or any1 got good websites.
Sori for the long post.

CHU85
21-01-2004, 07:58 PM
just keep ur brakes as they are. get some good pads or even get some dba's. They're pretty cheap and ther're australian.
Ur car is a little more difficult to transplant cos its and obd2 gen. Just get on the net and order a obd2 to obd1 wiring harness (thats if u find a obd1 frontcut). U have to get one from the states but it'll cost as much as an auto electrician to wire it up for u.
If u want to read up on the transplant go to www.h22a.org

Cheers.

trippy
22-01-2004, 01:17 AM
thanks heaps for all ur help chu85..
i will have a read and if anymore question then i guess i will post them n tell u guys wot is goin on with the car...

poid
22-01-2004, 07:28 AM
However it's illegal to put an OBD1 engine into his car, according to the ADR's when transplanting an engine you must have at least the same emission controls systems that were in the car originally which means an OBD2 front cut is a must.

Besides which if you get a front cut you should get all the necessary harnesses and the ECU

CHU85
22-01-2004, 07:08 PM
emissions in qld?
not a clue!