EG Civic with a B18C

[lane-o]

Just wondering who out there has done a EG Civic with a B18c (non Type R)?? Much quicker than a B16a? How much did you spend? Is it worth the money for a B18c over a B16a. Just thinking about my next car..... :o

[Rowie]

if you have the money, definately go the B18c :)

[Chi]

I hear its roughly around 7-8k all up to do including the suspension change.

[lane-o]

ahh ok, i'm going to call Honbits on Monday get some prices i think. I have a EK4 Vti-R now, but i am thinking about heading for a all motor track car with the B18c.....The Ek4 Vti-R might be for sale soon....

[[[d a n n y]]]

18c is much quicker one of my mates have got a 18c in an Si

[OLM-02R]

yeh its faster than b16 for sure....i got one on my blacksheep :D shhhhhhhhh.....yeh its worth it.....

[joneblaze]

agreed. They're damn quick cars..... was riding in one today.. (fark it was bumpy), and it still rocked hard despite having two fat boys and a man mountain in it... ;)

[CAT_SPEW]

ahh ok, i'm going to call Honbits on Monday get some prices i think. I have a EK4 Vti-R now, but i am thinking about heading for a all motor track car with the B18c.....The Ek4 Vti-R might be for sale soon....

I'm a bit confused, do you have a EG with and EK engine in it, or are you wanting to put an EG B18C engine in your EK..

[mo]

wants to put b18c into his EK4

[VTEC16]

nahh...he wants to sell his EK4 and buy an EG to transplant a B18 into!

[CAT_SPEW]

Lol, I get it now :)
Thnx.

[mo]

bwahaha oh ok!! i'd just keep the EK4 imho. market value of the EG is way less

[fusion_VTi]

alrighty just wondering...b18c is that the integrer VTI-R motor or is it the integra TYPE R motor, i've just been wondering this..

[joneblaze]

Fusion do a *tiny* bit of reading on this site or almost any other similar, and you'll find out the answer to your question and plenty more.

btw, B18C is the first four in the sequence for both engines... its the number that follows that denotes which is which. Just have a quick read mate.

[OLM-02R]

B18C1,2 Vtir motor B18C7 ITR motor... :D

[LatinoHatchCrap]

B18C1,2 Vtir motor B18C7 ITR motor... :D
B18C1 is the JDM model of the motor and from wot i have personally seen is superior to its oz counterpart: the c/r of the b18c1 is higher;the conrod fastener is a one piece alumium cast item whereas the oz mota is a tow piece desing. Power output of the b18c1 is 180hp or 134kw. The extra 19lbs/tq that the b18c1/2 has on the b16a are noticeble especially in a EG :) Is it worth it? thats objective...do some reserach and then make your choice dont just listen to us. GL

PS: is it fast? well average 1/4 mile time would be low 14's depending on driver skill and suspension setup.

[LatinoHatchCrap]

bwahaha oh ok!! i'd just keep the EK4 imho. market value of the EG is way less
Dood! if hes gona do a projetc of this kind I would hope he wouldnt be taking these *market value* views that you have. No one, absolutly no one can price a EG hybrid especially with a b18c. Its still all objective; the market for hybrids here is non-existent thus who can say how much it really costs. A medium to long term view for a project like this is a must :!:

-Joe

[Toby]

this is the same thing i would like to do as my next car. about the suspension?? what type?? just after market ones??

[LatinoHatchCrap]

stock suspension will hold up for daily mild-mid driving. Brakes should be on your top of the list as well

[OLM-02R]

B18C1,2 Vtir motor B18C7 ITR motor... :D
B18C1 is the JDM model of the motor and from wot i have personally seen is superior to its oz counterpart: the c/r of the b18c1 is higher;the conrod fastener is a one piece alumium cast item whereas the oz mota is a tow piece desing. Power output of the b18c1 is 180hp or 134kw.



yeh i know....mines a b18c1 brand new GSR motor came from us... :D:D:D

[LatinoHatchCrap]

B18C1,2 Vtir motor B18C7 ITR motor... :D
B18C1 is the JDM model of the motor and from wot i have personally seen is superior to its oz counterpart: the c/r of the b18c1 is higher;the conrod fastener is a one piece alumium cast item whereas the oz mota is a tow piece desing. Power output of the b18c1 is 180hp or 134kw.



yeh i know....mines a b18c1 brand new GSR motor came from us... :D:D:Dooopps! my mistake; the USDM version is the b18c1 whereas the jdm version only has b18c...jdm motor stamps dont have numbers after them :)

[ginganggooly]

not to be pedantic ;) but the audm motor is labelled as a b18c2.

[w_civic]

mate i have B18C jap spec with full throtle body but the gear box fugged..pm me if u want...ready stock :D

[LatinoHatchCrap]

mate i have B18C jap spec with full throtle body but the gear box fugged..pm me if u want...ready stock :D
how much are you asking? have you got the rubber intake arm for sale?

[lane-o]

ok guys i have been doing some research over the last few days. Making phone calls and such......i have a plan!! I came across a workshop that has an EG ('94) hatch. Just been resprayed in white, its got a TYPE R conversion on it. I mean a full on conversion......Integra Type R motor, gearbox, front and rear brakes, Type R wheels. Its almost ready to go. Since its all Type R, i got a LSD as well...just have to sell my EK4 Vti-R now! Tell me what you think...?

[LatinoHatchCrap]

ok guys i have been doing some research over the last few days. Making phone calls and such......i have a plan!! I came across a workshop that has an EG ('94) hatch. Just been resprayed in white, its got a TYPE R conversion on it. I mean a full on conversion......Integra Type R motor, gearbox, front and rear brakes, Type R wheels. Its almost ready to go. Since its all Type R, i got a LSD as well...just have to sell my EK4 Vti-R now! Tell me what you think...?
If its in good mechanical condition I would do it but dont get ripped off either...

[totti]

how much are they asking??

it would be close to $20k i'd think!!

[lane-o]

Its also got a new dakin heavy duty clutch and it comes with a 10,000km warranty.....

[LatinoHatchCrap]

i got the same clutch...it bites like hell! wots the price?

[w_civic]

may be 4 - 4.5k

[OLM-02R]

ok guys i have been doing some research over the last few days. Making phone calls and such......i have a plan!! I came across a workshop that has an EG ('94) hatch. Just been resprayed in white, its got a TYPE R conversion on it. I mean a full on conversion......Integra Type R motor, gearbox, front and rear brakes, Type R wheels. Its almost ready to go. Since its all Type R, i got a LSD as well...just have to sell my EK4 Vti-R now! Tell me what you think...?

hehehehheheheheh yeh cheap aye....i know....he's my mech...CW EG4 with fully built engine... ;) how much did he asked u??

[lane-o]

for the car as is, stock motor and all. new clutch with the brakes (5 stud conversion all round) and type R wheels installed hes asking $17,500

[OLM-02R]

yeh i know....he's my bestmate hehehehhehehehe....if u think about it its cheap man....freshly new paint as well championship white....are you goin to take it?? ;)

[lane-o]

it kinda rests on if i get rid of my EK4.....i have rego due in 2 weeks and then try and sell it. Whats your option on the car?

[OLM-02R]

hmmmm just keep ur car dud....make it as a project car...its already good as it is now...research and put a good combination and u'll be happy...and of course the most important is the handling....cheers... ;)

17k u can do alot of stuff to make ur car faster and good handling man...but thats ur decision dud...;)

[Chi]

OLM-02R you sound like a cheerful guy since you use hehehehehehehe alot in your posts .
Oh yeah i saw your car in feb auto salon mag ,very nice :D

Anways would a b20b or a b18c be a better choice ?
How much heavier is the b20b to the b18c?

Kinda thinking of getting engine swap ..

[OLM-02R]

heheheehhehehe thanx chi....which autosalon mag?? the one at KK?? hehehehhehe

if i'm in ur situation now....i'd choose b18c...easier to setup...alot of aftermarket parts as well....not really sure by how much heavier the b20b compare to b18c...if you got xtra money just get a ITR motor....

btw how much is ur budget??

:D:D:D:D

[LatinoHatchCrap]

it kinda rests on if i get rid of my EK4.....i have rego due in 2 weeks and then try and sell it. Whats your option on the car? IMO you should serously look into it man...for that price it sounds like an alright deal to me and lets be honest...ITR motor and brakes+wheels its a completely different car to the EK4 and I hoestly doubt you could do anything to make the EK4 quicker than an EG with that setup unless you spent much much more than you prob wish to spend. But it sounds like you might put yourself under a bit of pressure selling the EK though :roll: he he he

[lane-o]

i was very attached to my EK4 when i bought it.....but now the thought of having a full Type R conversion in a nice clean EG (more so being white) is sounding great. But i can't help but think how its going to perform.....? Anyone being in one like this? With the B18c7....

[OLM-02R]

yeh...i have...i have driven one as well... :thumbsup:

[lane-o]

have you run anything on the streets in it? ;) ps, i saw ya ride in ASM. I am liking the TypeR idea more and more :)

[OLM-02R]

hehehehehehhehe i havent even seen my ride in ASM man hahahahhaha ;)

[Chi]

You look like a full hard kant in it .. :P

[ulq-507]

good i think there will be the same if EK4 modify ...coz the weight !

[Chi]

good i think there will be the same if EK4 modify ...coz the weight !

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[panda[cRx]]

fark he dug this thread outta nowhere lol
good to see noobs using the search feature then posting someting that makes no sense :D

[z3lda]

i think this is what he was trying to say, but he just didnt know how to make it make flow LOL

"i think the modify ek4 will be good ..cuz there wiehgt is the same !"



good i think there will be the same if EK4 modify ...coz the weight !

[panda[cRx]]

now i need a translator for u too neil :p

[HyperZ]

have you run anything on the streets in it? ;) ps, i saw ya ride in ASM. I am liking the TypeR idea more and more :)

Why dont you test drive before buying the EG?

[ah8118]

yeah mate. would rather keep the ek and do the transplant straight from there. at least the ek's hold better value.

[51kCVK]

yep bin in a red eg sedan with b18c its a rocket lol beat my friends evo 3 turbo runin 15 pounds

[marte]

fk how the fk did u find this thread LOL

[51kCVK]

what u mean bro i jst when on it lol it was up on this site lol jst joined i dono wtf is goin on lol

[z3lda]

obviously, cause this thread is 500 years old :rolleyes:

[barefootbonzai]

i just realised it an old thread too. interesting reading though. proves that everyone was a newby at one stage.

[[[d a n n y]]]

i just realised it an old thread too. interesting reading though. proves that everyone was a newby at one stage.

not every1's perfect like u :p

[51kCVK]

lol wtf if its soo old fair engh i didnt know but wtf u doin on it den as well how would u seee this if its 500yrz old lol nerd gettin excided ova old info lol ahahh ;)

[marte]

wtf LOL. Bc u replied on the thread then it was refreshed to page one... hence why i saw it... but this is giong off topic enjoy the read great info

[barefootbonzai]

]']not every1's perfect like u :p

lol, i wish. Just look up some of my old post, very noob indeed :confused:

[Surrufus]

outta curiosity how much ITR gear can you stick in an EG?
i know the engine and gear box fit
and if doing that you may as well use the ITR 5 stud hubs and brakes
but what else really needs to go in?

haha ive got an EK1 and ive been thinking about a track/street car for a while

[VTi_b0i]

lol slightly off topic, but anyone know roughly how much a b18c2 half cut will cost and where i can get on? which is better, that or a jap spec b16a? i know the b18c has more power...but that doesnt have to mean its better...

[z3lda]

b18c > b16a.

no replacement for displacement.

[VTi_b0i]

ok thanks for that mate :)
can anyone get a b18c2 or the jap spec version? (half cut) or know where i can get it?

[JDM_type_R]

would that EG that beat the EVO be mine?...... > red EG sedan with the racing hart cp35's... are u those dudes that were at Sbank maccas

[EK4R]

not sure but you could pm a few members on the forum that have done this.

"Civic Type R" in perth did it to my ek4, JDM b18c, think was roughly $5500.

u wont regret it ^^

[VTi_b0i]

thanks :D yehh im lokin for the b18c2 motor now.... soon as i find one for the right price it shall be mine :D Muhhhahaha

[EK4R]

chuck it in the EK, forget the EG :P

[CRXer]

I got a JDM 18C of SSS Automotive recently.Try them cause they will probably know where to find others if they dont have

[VTi_b0i]

I got a JDM 18C of SSS Automotive recently.Try them cause they will probably know where to find others if they dont have
mind if i ask how much? and how many Ks? just wana get a rough idea of prices :)

[Pokiou]

yea im intrested in a similiar conversion with a ed9 crx :D

jsut gotta find a good engine and mounts and parts and so much more. hmmm money = 0 lol

Pok

[CRXer]

half-cut for 4G with 100k on it.
u could prob do better as i was desperate(threw the timing belt on the D16)
Most of the places i rang(lots) said they were going straight out as soon as they came in,so keep your eyes open.I got mine b4 it passed quarantine.

[Surrufus]

chuck it in the EK, forget the EG :P
BOO!!!
a B18CR EG would rock haha
and i plan on building one to rival ur EK as soon as i can afford it

[Pokiou]

yea there is heaps of b18 and b16 vtec motors there just over priced. I mean it is a good engine but seriously not worth 5k... :(

Pok

[EK4R]

BOO!!!
a B18CR EG would rock haha
and i plan on building one to rival ur EK as soon as i can afford it

HAHA alrite, how long that gona be??
mite as well chuck it in ur EK1 since u already own it

[honda_ek4]

im planning to drop a b18c7 type r one in my civic ek next yr.. hope it all goes well..

[EK4R]

sick! let us how know it goes. where bouts u located?

[honda_ek4]

in sydney..hehe saving up now:)

[Surrufus]

HAHA alrite, how long that gona be??
mite as well chuck it in ur EK1 since u already own it
probably after i finish my degree
nah im starting to like the eg shape more and more
its all in my plan haha no ek for me

[SINISTR]

this used to be my girls EG - B18C2 engine swap. It absolutely rips, new owner is very happy!

147.81HP@hubs

http://www.redpepperracing.com/gallery/d/91569-5/ada.jpg

[VTi_b0i]

and how much did the conversion set u back? :) like how much for the half cut and have u done the 1/4mile?

[EK4R]

i havnt but my previous owner "Civic type R" did the 1/4 in 14.2 ish. but he had other mods too tho.

sinistr is that car of ur gf's sold to a perth owner or moved out?

[sivic]

hey EK4R, are you still running the same exhaust Adam had on it?
if so, you should look at changing to 2.5" system. reckon that car could deff benefit from it

[SINISTR]

sinistr is that car of ur gf's sold to a perth owner or moved out?

Perth owner.. sold within 48hrs.

the car was bought with the swap done, and unfortunatelly I never managed to take it to the drags. But a 14 second pass (possibly lower end) would have been on the cards in my opinion - never got to test it tho.

[EK4R]

yea still the 2.25 adam had on it.

not intending on upgrade the car with performances mods as of yet, just doing touch up and cosmetics for now.

i thought bout 2.5, but that will have to wait as im tight on cash atm.

whats the benefits of fitting the 2.5 apart from power? would it be fuel economical due to better air flow?

[VTi_b0i]

lol more power = less fuel efficiency lol

SINISTR, how much was the conversion?

[EK4R]

wat i meant was, the ratio of power/fuel efficency with the 2.25" compared with a 2.5" exhuast.

[sivic]

hard to say. i doubt it would make much of a difference on fuel economy.

[SINISTR]

SINISTR, how much was the conversion?

car came with the swap done mate. it was engineered so i'd say in excess of 7K including engineering costs.

[VTi_b0i]

ahh bloddy hell lol i wana know how much i gotta lookforward to spending lol

[SINISTR]

look at it this way as rough approximates:

$2500-$3500 for engine/gbox/loom/ecu
$2000-$3000 for swap labour.

I think thats pretty close to what a swap 'would' cost you. Engineering is just an "extra".

[VTi_b0i]

ahh i could get it done for less labour...
more money for cams, cam gears, valves and springs :D

[Surrufus]

a few tuners here in WA recommend a 2.5" exhaust for the DC2R so it makes sense that adams EK which has a B18C7 in it to be fitted with a 2.5"
most B16s run 2.25 from what ive heard so the increasement in displacement may be accountable for the larger exhaust piping to make benefit of the higher power figures avaliable

[EGB18CT]

in the process atm. all up drop in car its about 6.5-7g thats done properly with all fluids, timing belt, clutch, flywheel, fan belts and full exhaust but im doing all this myself so you can add labor. the half cut will set you back about 5g for a pristine condition as new one.. anyway when my conversion is done in about 2 weeks ill post up a rough estimate of cost cos got not time atm...

[VTi_b0i]

and get a run of it on video :D hahah