dc2r brake upgrade options?

[BiGANG]

hey guys,

I want to upgrade the brakes on my 2000 dc2r. I was wondering if anyone knew of any honda brakes that are bigger than my teggy ones that bolt fairly easily onto my car. I'd love endless or AP racing setup but my wallet doesnt agree.

thanks guys

[BF]

What are you trying to achieve...? You won't necessarily get your money's worth just getting a bigger calipre setup if your car seldom sees the track.

As I understand, if your car is mainly street often better to spend your money on pads, fluid and braided brake lines...

[BiGANG]

Im after something I can use on the track, on the street my brakes are more than capable.

[BF]

Ah ok. I'm not aware of any...

Are you using 18inch wheels or your standard ITR wheels, your profile says your using 18s. As I understand this could affect your braking substantially. Also, if your using the standard ITR wheels, you might have a problem fitting larger calipre's and/or disks.

Hopefully someone knows of a larger honda calipre that will fit on your car.

Best of luck!

[Jim80y]

NSX Caliper with Honda Legend (early 90s) rotors works, but IMO the stock DC2R brakes are awesome. First try upgrading lines, pads and fluid and then see if you need bigger brakes.

[tinkerbell]

Odysey are 300mm discs i believe?

[BiGANG]

what would odyssey or nsx setup be worth (im thinking a nsx setup would be more exp than ap calipers anyway) but worth asking i guess

[ITRBoI]

bibang, spoon callipers are a straight bolt on, and there are very good. more than what you need for street and enough for track as well. What is your budget though?

[BiGANG]

i think the spoon ones are a bit exp dude. I was hoping to maybe get all 4 discs from something else for about the price of what aftermarket big front brake upgrade costs. Would anyone recommend slotted rotors if i were to keep my original brakes? also, where can i get different brake lines for a reasonable price?

[type one]

hmmm... spoon calipers will need a 10mm spacer to run under the stock rim. It is a two piston set up vs the ITR single large piston. IMO lighter yes and probably marginally better but still an N1 item and therefore still uses the stock caliper as a base.

listen to Jim80y and try SS brake lines and higher temp pads... this will set you back approx $800 not including labour.

your chance of finding NSX calipers are slim...not to mention all the other bits you going to need to put em in - my estimate is 2k for the NSX setup if u can find it.

[tinkerbell]

what would odyssey or nsx setup be worth (im thinking a nsx setup would be more exp than ap calipers anyway) but worth asking i guess

Odyessy/Legend is better match to DC2R than NSX:

A = Diameter
B = Original Height
C = Original Thickness
D = Replacement Thickness
E = Centre Hole
F = No. of Bolt Holes

all measurments = mm

1999+ DC2R
A 282
B 47
C 23
D 21
E 70
F 5

2002-2003 Odyessy & 1996+ Legend
A 300
B 47.5
C 28
D 26
E 70
F 5

1996+ NSX
A 303
B 32.5
C 23
D 21
E 64
F 5

all figures are from DBA 2003 catalogue http://www.dba.com.au/dba_catalogue_2004/HTML/Standardseries/standard_index.htm
also the 300mm Odyessy rotors = 8kg,
the 303mm NSX rotors = 6.5kg

[ITRBoI]

yeha you can just upgrade to slotted rotors, it will stop better than your stock one. I'm thinking myself too to get slotted rotor too for the spoon callipers but need to wait, braided brake lines will also help, but they are not cheap

[blackdc2]

Here is an option

I just bought a wilwood kit from the US that is direct bolt on, except for the rotor hats that come with it. (they are for a Civic 4x100)

WIlwood dont actually have a kit that bolts onto DC2R's I found, plus they dont have a a rotor hat with the right offset.

So I have already done all the ground work and getting rotor hats with the correct offset made up.

Alltogether the Wilwood kit (including shipping from the US) + the custom hats will cost me under $1500 and will be a straight bolt on.

Wilwood Kit includes:

310mm rotors
4 pot calipers
Pads
braided lines
caliper mounting brackets
brake bias control

[VTECACCORD]

Before you try changing anything like parts wise, try changing the fluid. There is this stuff called ATE Super Blue racing brake fluid.

It may make the huge difference you want to feel, a lot of people have raved about it.

Next time I change my fluid im gonna try it out. BTW I'm runing spoon monoblock calipers, and I feel that the difference between stock and that is that these hold a lot stronger with less fade, and you get better modulation.

But I do have the cusco booster brace to stop that flexing too. btw you may wanna try the brace with stock brakes it may help make a difference.

These are the two cheapest wasy to improve brake feel, change fluid and booster brace

[uetecu]

Motul RBF600 brake fluid.. a definite must if you drive extremely hard ;)

[uetecu]

have you tried good quality pads yet?

[BiGANG]

hey blackdc2, what site are you getting the wilwood kit from, i couldnt find it that cheap after looking on the net for a bit.

Im thinking that slotted rotors, braided lines and the brake master stopper thing are worth looking at seriously after reading all this. Sounds like the cheapest way out, still wont be cheap though.
Im thinking maybe the huge brake upgrade might be a bit of overkill on my car, its not like im stopping a 400kw monster.

Thanks guys for all the info so far.

[euGeR]

Does Odyessy stuff sit under a 15" rim tinks?

The yanks are using early model NSX calipers coz they had 15" rims - so the conversion does not require an upgrade in rims.

Personally, with a stock engine, I've found the DC2R brakes to have plenty left after an upgrade of the Brake lines and 0-800c pads for the Track.

Do note that Blackdc2 has a 12second DC2R :D haha Did you get to try out troy's AP's jas?

[tinkerbell]

dunno about 300mm discs euge?

early model NSX has only 282mm discs, these fit fine under 15in rims...

i think the only reason why they are an "upgrade" is due to the calipers being substantially lighter than the DC2R ones...

[edw-R]

I am using spoon caplier now. I don't need 10mm spacer for my car. Just need 5mm spacer for my stock rims. Andthen, spoon caplier is 4 piston and not 2 piston. I don't know how to say how good is it. But I am sure, after you drive the car with spoon caplier, and you drive the car with stock caplier. You will feel that what is spoon caplier. For my situation, the weight of my car is around 1180kg (including driver), i don't need 6 piston or bigger disc to improve my braking again. I think the bigger brake disc will also increase the weight of my car too.