h22a conversion on 5th gen accord

[accordforlife]

hi,
im purchasing a h22a front cut and planning to do it mates my self but one thing is it easy bolt on?? ill have to get a auto electrician to do the wiring done, anything i need to know before i start?? wat part i need?? and is it easy?
thANXS

[accordforlife]

btw my car is auto now but manual putting in includes the front cut

[toE]

Check the FAQ sticky.
There are a few threads concerning this.

Good luck with it. :)

[Bowzer]

Where you based? If your in melbourne and want it done from start to end give me a PM, i have done H22A conversions in various chassis such as the Accord 4th and 5th gens as well as EG/DC and DA integra chassis... Not to mention popular B series swaps into EG/EK/DC as well

[accordforlife]

on the faq done even tell how to do the conversion, bowzer sorry im from bris, help me out with the cons ill be facing on the conversion, if i pay someone for the wiring how much would i uspect to pay for??

[Bowzer]

on the faq done even tell how to do the conversion, bowzer sorry im from bris, help me out with the cons ill be facing on the conversion, if i pay someone for the wiring how much would i uspect to pay for??

Im assuming you getting a H22A Manual Halfcut, in that case you will need to find someone whos familar with the OBD1 Layout of the Accord/Prelude, also someone who has done a auto to manual rewire, there are suffcient information on the net showing you how to do it, if you're not not up to the job expect to pay anywhere from $600-$800 depending on what needs to be done and what the halfcut comes with...

In general, the exisiting loom on the F22B engine is used, the missing sensors are added and is routed back to the ECU...

An auto eletrician may be able to do it provided that hes got the wiring diagrams but they will prob take a lot longer if they haven't done it before and if they charge by the hour, it will cost you quite a bit in the end...

[accordforlife]

my mates done conversion before but not on hondas!! where iin the net i could find this info ive looked and no answers, why dont u come to bris and do it ill pay u??

Im assuming you getting a H22A Manual Halfcut, in that case you will need to find someone whos familar with the OBD1 Layout of the Accord/Prelude, also someone who has done a auto to manual rewire, there are suffcient information on the net showing you how to do it, if you're not not up to the job expect to pay anywhere from $600-$800 depending on what needs to be done and what the halfcut comes with...

In general, the exisiting loom on the F22B engine is used, the missing sensors are added and is routed back to the ECU...

An auto eletrician may be able to do it provided that hes got the wiring diagrams but they will prob take a lot longer if they haven't done it before and if they charge by the hour, it will cost you quite a bit in the end...

[Bowzer]

you wont find all the info you want on this forum, honda-tech.com has plenty and so does honda-acura.net

If you really serious about paying for my airfare and provide me accomodation I dont see no problems doing it...

FYI here are some pics of some performed swaps in the past



http://members.datafast.net.au/~teetee/honda/4thgen_h22a_1.jpg

http://members.datafast.net.au/~teetee/honda/4thgen_h22a_2.jpg

http://members.datafast.net.au/~teetee/honda/4thgen_h22a_4.jpg

http://members.datafast.net.au/~teetee/honda/5thgen_h22a.jpg

http://members.datafast.net.au/~teetee/honda/b16a2_eg5_2.jpg

http://members.datafast.net.au/~teetee/honda/b16a2_eg5.jpg

[accordforlife]

nice picdo u do h22a on civic?? my mate just ask me

[accordforlife]

thanxs for your info will get back to u

[aus91integra]

I can vouch for Bowzers work. Helped with the wiring on my H22 conversion. No BS sorta guy..

[Bowzer]

depends what Civic is it a EK or EG, the swap is not as straight forward as the others, requires me to obtain HCP or HASPORT engine mounts, driveshafts and some cutting to fit the shifter linkages on... in other words lots more stuffing around read the post about the cost of h22a conversion here
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showpost.php?p=265567&postcount=23

You can see what your in for

[accordforlife]

bowzer sorry hey we getting someone to do it here instead 2300 buck include everything. its alot cheaper if we got someone here to do it istead of u coming and paying for airfare and accom sorry hey

[vtec90accord]

Hey I have just recently done the conversion into a 4th gen accord myself, I am located in brisbane if you need any ideas im no expert but it was a fairly straight forward swap. The wiring was not hard to do, i used the standard harnes and added the extra wires needed. I would be interested in hearing your progress.

[Nervegas]

I have a few questions bout the conversion as i'm looking to have one done to my early '95 accord. starters, my accord is already manual, but at the moment i can only find half cut's (h22a) in auto. would there be much hassle in converting the half cut to manual or would i have to find a whole new transmission altogether? also does would the engine bay have enough room in the future to turbo the engine after the conversion?
Thanks for your time
Travis

[vtec90accord]

I have a few questions bout the conversion as i'm looking to have one done to my early '95 accord. starters, my accord is already manual, but at the moment i can only find half cut's (h22a) in auto. would there be much hassle in converting the half cut to manual or would i have to find a whole new transmission altogether? also does would the engine bay have enough room in the future to turbo the engine after the conversion?
Thanks for your time
Travis
Hi Travis, you are lucky in the sence that your accord is already manual, that means you dont have to find the right sized drive shafts or shifter and stuff. It is a fair bit of stuffing around to change the auto to manual. you would be far better off if you find a manual front cut. I bought an auto front cut as my accord is auto, but recently sourced a manula gearbox and engine, but it is not in a front cut. The place where i got my front cut usually has manual front cuts in stock but they are moving warehouse and wont have any more for about 6 months because there new home isnt built yet. May I ask how much they are asking for the front cut? I paid $1900 for mine but they took the headlights and other exterior stuff, i then sold my old engine with a broken gearbox for $600. Another thing i found was that i had to buy a few things that wernt expected, like a new knock sensor that was broken ($273) so make sure that you have a bit more money spare befor you start.
Anyway I hope that helps a bit, feel fre to ask anymore questions or elaberate on anything that ive already said.
Ashley

[Nervegas]

I was quoted about $2300 for the half cut, that was with all acc, ecu, electrical loom and so forth. I was looking to spend overall about $6000 for the project overall. Although i could probably turbo charge the car for this, i'd rather have the conversiondone first and later on down the track turbo it. would you mind if i ask who you bought your halfcut from, as i'd be more then happy to wait 6 months before they restock engines.
Thanks for your time
Travis

[nickiipoohz]

6000 to turbocharge + conversion? i think thats a little on the low side. the conversion itself will cost at least 3500+. turboing will be even more lolz

[filoaccord]

my conversion to h22a is 5500 bucks including half cut

[j-specAccord]

yo join the club. i am almost finished my swap, i have a 5th gen (best honda) and i purchased a 94 prelude half cut. what you need before you buy the half cut is this; all accord engine mounts and prelude passenger side mount, prelude ECU and engine wiring harness, prelude throttle cable and bracket, prelude and accord P/S lines (assuming you would like to keep power steer) Prelude MAP sensor, brackets, vaccuum hose and evap canister and because you have auto you need the pedal box clutch and gear linkages also which is a bit more but expected when converting auto to manual. to swap in the H you need to mix and match parts, Accord alternator with the prelude bracket, accord CV shafts, Prelude belts inc; P/S belt, A/c & alter belt, new prelude coolant hoses. thats all i can think you will need atm.
about the ECU and wiring Bowzer basically covered it, you will need the accord harness from the firewall to the ECU which will plug in but there are four sensors you will need to re'route they are; the VTEC pressure switch, the VTEC solenoid, Intake air bypass solenoid, and the knock sensor.

i hope this has helped although bowzer loox like hes got it down pat. its juz some friendly advice from 1 5th gen owner to another. Laters P.S post me some pics of yo akord

[h22a accord]

jspedaccord's got it covered although, you have to remeober to switch the o2 sensor wiring on the ecu, i cant remember what the locations are but i could look it up for you..( i did the conversion 18 months ago.)

you can also use the prelude intermediate shaft and drive shafts but be sure to change the outter c.v joints to accord ones as the prelude ones wont fit in the accord hub properly.

i used the accord carbon canister, every thing fit perfectly.

http://img300.echo.cx/img300/1293/h224tx.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

[filoaccord]

well guys just bought h22a front cut j spec accord came with me and we saw a cd6 accord that already has the h22a on it 2500 bucks it even has the climate control so i guess its just a straight swap and the rev meter is on 7.5 until it hits 8 rpm im so happy

[h22a accord]

sounds good. did you know that that engine is 190hp instead of the 200hp that are in the j-spec preludes.

ahh, sell me the tacho lol.

[filoaccord]

u sure?? coz it says h22a instead of h22a1

[filoaccord]

just looked at hondahookup.com and its says sir on accord is 190 which is h22 no a on it??

[spoon fit]

yap, CD6 H22A 190hp
same as mine one be4

filoaccord, u lucky...u got the climate control as well

[Nervegas]

what i was saying is that i have $6000 for the conversion alone and later on i'll turbo charge it. Anyway thanks for all the great info that been posted as it'll help me in the near future. 1 last thing before i go, anyone know about the legality ofdoing the conversion for QLD? i've heard that the engine has to be no older then the car itself, eg my car is a early 95 model, does this mean the engine has to be 95 onwards?
Thanks for your time
Travis

[h22a accord]

what i was saying is that i have $6000 for the conversion alone and later on i'll turbo charge it. Anyway thanks for all the great info that been posted as it'll help me in the near future. 1 last thing before i go, anyone know about the legality ofdoing the conversion for QLD? i've heard that the engine has to be no older then the car itself, eg my car is a early 95 model, does this mean the engine has to be 95 onwards?
Thanks for your time
Travis


thats right, the engine has to be of the same year or newer than your vehicles build date.
I cant see anything illegal about swapping the motor as technically you are replacing a 2.2 litre 4 cyl with a 2.2 litre 4 cyl which doesnt legally require engineering or a brake upgrade nor does it require heavy duty suspension as the the f22b and h22a engines are roughly the same weight- give or take 10-20 kgs.

Compare this with swapping a gen 3 holden motor into a 6 cylinder 74 model kingswood- you would need to upgrade the fuel system from filler to return lines, upgrade the brakes, upgrade the suspension and everything would have to be fully engineered.

[filoaccord]

well if it is i can gain 10hp ssomwhere

[filoaccord]

so the half cut i got is not a jdm?? why does it say h22a instead od h22??

[spoon fit]

so the half cut i got is not a jdm?? why does it say h22a instead od h22??

climate control + H22A from 94-97 honda accord = JDM

[filoaccord]

hi, 1 thing ive got a 2 an quater full exhuast in my accord wen i do the conversion to h22a do i need to put 2.5 inch??