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aStRooo
30-05-2005, 07:02 AM
would anyone have any concerns with such a set up

http://www.ozhonda.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=500/2232plateturboside.jpg

adaptor plate

http://www.ozhonda.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=500/2232mountedfrontview.jpg

turbo is a TDO4L from 02 wrx monted to a standard pre-cat civic manifold (d-series)

this guy (from the states) gets 203whp @ 12psi, im thinking this cant be a reliable setup as manifold will eventually crack? any opinions?

saxman
30-05-2005, 11:38 AM
it's a very common set up out here... especially when used with a dsm T25 or 14b... the manifolds hold up fine, but they are very restricted flow wise. The manifolds are designed for use on little 50whp engines, so they aren't really meant to flow enough for 4 times the power.

Basically, they work fine, they last fine, but it's a major bottleneck in the system

joyride
31-05-2005, 03:02 PM
how odd.

z3lda
31-05-2005, 04:47 PM
thats very common.. i see it all the time.. in the states though.

if u have a gen2 rex. u can use the stock HF manifold from a sohc engine and bolt a turbo straight to that.

ghetto home style turbo setups

saxman
31-05-2005, 04:56 PM
not just the gen 2 rexs... it works for basically any d series... I've seen 'em on gen 3 crxs, gen 2s, gen 1s, 88-00 civics, etc

GSI-PSI
31-05-2005, 06:12 PM
Dont waste ya time and money. You dont understand how restrictive that setup is.

aStRooo
31-05-2005, 11:06 PM
but when ur pov ur pov =( haha, it always gives time to upgrade later i guess? will this work for b-series manifolds?

saxman
01-06-2005, 05:45 AM
but when ur pov ur pov =( haha, it always gives time to upgrade later i guess? will this work for b-series manifolds?
nope, the manifold isn't interchangable with the b's

Weq
01-06-2005, 07:01 PM
cheap setup. good bang for buck!

aStRooo
01-06-2005, 10:41 PM
no, i mean can you do this with a b-series mani? im assuming u can though. how much does it cost to get an adaptor plate fabricated?

**Ghost**
01-06-2005, 11:25 PM
that is so my style!!!! cheapo myer homebrand : P

grncvc
01-06-2005, 11:27 PM
buti think it's just a bandaid solution, bad flow if goin to do it do it properly in the first place... IMHO

**Ghost**
02-06-2005, 12:16 AM
i reckon it'd be ok if u only ever wanted low boost\?> just a guess

aStRooo
02-06-2005, 12:41 AM
myer aint homebrand lol. try bi-lo. yea bandaid solution i agree. how would stock manifold compare against a log type manifold? wouldnt be much different would there?

**Ghost**
02-06-2005, 01:38 AM
my question would be is that could it hold 5-8 psi reliably? if it can i'm all for it... cos if i turbo a civic it wont be beyond 5 psi anyway : )

LSD Motorsports
02-06-2005, 01:46 AM
thats very common.. i see it all the time.. in the states though.

if u have a gen2 rex. u can use the stock HF manifold from a sohc engine and bolt a turbo straight to that.

ghetto home style turbo setups
It doesnt bolt straight to that, it requires the use of an adapter plate. Its not really ghetto style, just cost efficient.

saxman
02-06-2005, 06:56 PM
my question would be is that could it hold 5-8 psi reliably? if it can i'm all for it... cos if i turbo a civic it wont be beyond 5 psi anyway : )
tons of people run them at more than that... as long as your egt's aren't too high, you'll be fine



a log manifold will flow better just because it doesn't have the tiny runners... the collector(or lack there of) will probably be about as turbulent...

**Ghost**
04-06-2005, 02:27 PM
so where can i get one for b16A ? : P

Nuttz
04-06-2005, 03:33 PM
those are designed for the SOHC engines only.
for b16a's u gotta buy aftermarket like greddy or something. or u could get it custom made.

**Ghost**
04-06-2005, 05:32 PM
dammnit...was thinking OMG I COULD GO TURBO LIKE A CHEAPO!! lol

heist
04-06-2005, 06:25 PM
where did you see that astrooo???

aStRooo
05-06-2005, 09:09 PM
have a read through turbod16.com in the turbo setup's section
since this setup will work for d-series, can you take a b-series pre-cat header and get an adaptor plate for that?

saxman
06-06-2005, 07:52 AM
have a read through turbod16.com in the turbo setup's section
since this setup will work for d-series, can you take a b-series pre-cat header and get an adaptor plate for that?
I don't believe there are any b series manifolds that work like that

EGB16A
06-06-2005, 04:31 PM
There is a setup which uses the standard B manifold . The turbo is mounted in the back of the car, then piping from the compressor goes all the way back to the intake manifold, and since the piping is under the car, it acts like an intercooler

saxman
07-06-2005, 05:59 AM
There is a setup which uses the standard B manifold . The turbo is mounted in the back of the car, then piping from the compressor goes all the way back to the intake manifold, and since the piping is under the car, it acts like an intercooler
rear mounted turbos have some serious limitations. You're going to probably end up spending quite a bit more that way than you would with a normal turbo manifold anyway.

aStRooo
07-06-2005, 03:04 PM
rear mounted turbos look so ghetto =) wont it suck up alot of crap?

BlitZ
07-06-2005, 09:37 PM
thats soem tight ass shit.. how would u plum the oil all the way back there?

saxman
08-06-2005, 08:27 AM
thats soem tight ass shit.. how would u plum the oil all the way back there?
really long line, along with a sump back there and a pump to return the oil

the bigger problems lie with the heat loss in the exhaust leading to the turbo, and pressure loss coming back... they have to use really weird sized turbos to make it work at all

it's a viable solution for cars that don't have room under the hood, a problem none of us should have