Heard about F22A1

[honda_prelude94]

When I look at my engine model.. I saw F22A1, I am not sure what model is that? Can anyone enlighten me.

What's its spec. How different is it to H22A


Cheers

[[Blitz]]

It's SOHC and non-VTEC, but still a 2.2L

[Bowzer]

Found on the Prelude S models and some early 89-91 4th Gen Accords and yes [Blitz] mentioned SOHC non VTEC engine...

F22A1 (SOHC)
Displacement: 2156
Compression Ratio: 8.8:1
Power 97kw @5200rpm (130hp @ 5200)
Torque 192Nm @ 4000rpm (142lb/ft @ 4000)
Bore Stroke: 85mm/95mm

Cast Iron Type Sleeves (boost & forged pistons friendly)

From Phearable.net tech section as you can see there is many different H22Ax/F22Ax Specs

http://www.phearable.net/tech/wiring/enginecodes.html

As for the H22A sleeves, FRM (Fibre Reinforced Material) forged pistons are not friendly with these sleeves. Closed Deck design on the Found on the BB4 Base Prelude (4th Gen) The BB6 (5th Gen used open Deck)

[JDM Element]

u'd think it'd be slower coz of the kw..
but its actually not too bad coz its got good torque, a lot of ppl miss that

[honda_prelude94]

When you said boost friendly "Cast Iron Type Sleeves (boost & forged pistons friendly)" Do you mean I can add turbo to it?
I am looking to convert my current F22A1 to H22A, is it recommend for a prelude S? Is it a straight forward engine swap or I need to change alot of other stuffs to run a H22A engine in a prelude S.

[Bowzer]

You can boost either motor, the F22A has a pretty good compression ratio (stock) for boost, im not saying it withstand high amounts of boost upgrading to forged pistons and bigger rods is highly recommended...

The comment i made about the sleeves is that cast iron sleeves in the F22A engine is forged piston friendly and can withstand a decent amount of boost, some engines in the states are running 14psi+ but coming back to the orginal question if you were going to put a H22A engine then decide to boost it, then you need to budget for resleeving the H22A block due to the FRM material not being BOOST and FORGED PISTON friendly, let alone the H22A compression is not ideal for boost...

As for the swap if you driven a H22A Lude and you like the performance then why not go for it, you will need to make a judgement if its worth the money or not...

And as for difficulty in swap, it will be more straight forward putting in the H22A into the prelude then it would if it were say an accord however some wiring modifications are still necessary

[Blew_lude]

gees..190 or so nm of torque..
its got more torque then a dc2 integra

[honda_prelude94]

Thanks for the infor Bower, I am wonder whether do you roughly know how much it will cost to boost the current F22A engine and the cost to convert it into H22A.
I am not sure about adding boost to the current F22A as it has a rarely high mileage (185000 ) already thus I more willing to change to a H22A engine with a lower mileage
Are you staying in brisbane? Do you know where can I get a second hand H22A and get it install?
Initially I planning to sell my Prelude to get a skyline but after reading the spec you gave me, I decide to keep it and modify it instead. ( Its much more expensive to maintain a skyline as compare to a prelude hee hee )

[filoaccord]

hi ive got an accord putting a h22a from brisbane ring auto asian spares for a h22a half cut, that where a got mine or abc wreckers theres a h22a type s for sale 3500 buck to ge it installed mayhem motorsport.fist performance is doing mine or ask j spec accord if he can do yours his in this forum

Thanks for the infor Bower, I am wonder whether do you roughly know how much it will cost to boost the current F22A engine and the cost to convert it into H22A.
I am not sure about adding boost to the current F22A as it has a rarely high mileage (185000 ) already thus I more willing to change to a H22A engine with a lower mileage
Are you staying in brisbane? Do you know where can I get a second hand H22A and get it install?
Initially I planning to sell my Prelude to get a skyline but after reading the spec you gave me, I decide to keep it and modify it instead. ( Its much more expensive to maintain a skyline as compare to a prelude hee hee )

[honda_prelude94]

hi ive got an accord putting a h22a from brisbane ring auto asian spares for a h22a half cut, that where a got mine or abc wreckers theres a h22a type s for sale 3500 buck to ge it installed mayhem motorsport.fist performance is doing mine or ask j spec accord if he can do yours his in this forum

To do have their contact?? I am planning to do my. Asked around... One of the workshop told me its cost 10000 for engine and installation man.....

[honda_prelude94]

For my current prelude, I have installed a new set of wheel and exhaust system. Would it be better if I sell my current prelude and get one which is VTIR or carry on with the engine swap?

[NogZ]

10000 for a swap is quite a lot, i'd say 5000-8000 depending on the engine cond., who you know, etc. etc. Would be cheaper/sensible if you had an Si

The S is much lighter as it doesnt have 4ws, Srs, or abs, but the VTIR's also have bigger brakes, not to mention it would be more reliable than doing a conversion. I'd say you would save much more money and headaches by sell/buy a vtir. Maybe if you were interested in a lighter car/no 4ws/putting in a jdm h22a or type-s engine etc you could consider a swap as an option.

[Bowzer]

10K is a rip, they probably never done one before if they quoted you that... Well if you obtained the halfcut you can easily upgrade the front brakes to the VTi-R ones by taking it from the halfcut...

Again it all comes down to how much you got in your pocket... if money isnt a issue get it done... Otherwise sell it and get one with one standard

[JDM Element]

it seems all a bit too much trouble.. if you ask me..

tho vtir's are quite rare, sell ur S, chuck in an extra 5k, and you should find a nice vtir. Although,
if you wanna boost, i think a h23 would be heaps cheaper, and prolly a better option to boost.
agree?

[honda_prelude94]

Thanks everyone...
I am planning to sell my S and get a VTIR...... Not getting a boost for the VTIR but a VTEC computer.....
Anyone interested in my car??

[honda_prelude94]

On second thought, is it a good choice to stick to the SOHC engine and add a small boost to it? Would it out run a VTI-R? Cos adding a boost and swapping a engine is about the same price.
I have been looking around for a VTI-R but I can find one with the correct colour and condition.... But first I must sell my current car first which is a hassle... You know its a lot of hassle to sell a car....

[nickiipoohz]

well if u boost it right.. should end up with the same power output as a stock h22 but.. u'll have more torque which means u'll outrun it. but if you have the $$$ sell ur car and get one with the engine.. save u on the hassle