how do i get the most out of the JAZZ?? [Archive]

SpOOn-FED

06-06-2005, 08:34 PM

watup yo
my frend recently bought a jazz and was in the process of sproosing it up a lil
but jazz bein farely new he doesnt know wat to do or wer to find things for it.....
he came to me believing that i can get him some idea'z and ofcourse i have heeps but i was wonderin wat things he could do for a well balanced Jazz
something that has enough guts to take on cars in its class and smoke'em but the driveability for everyday use.....

any suggestions???

Zimp13

06-06-2005, 08:39 PM

Xforce full system to start with of course.... cheap and good..... :D
then coilover plus all struts.... :D
Simple yet effective....

spoon fit

06-06-2005, 08:40 PM

vti or vtis?

Tony

06-06-2005, 08:46 PM

something that has enough guts to take on cars in its class and smoke'em but the driveability for everyday use.....

any suggestions???

take on cars in its class and smoke'em? turbo kit is your choice man..

SiR CRX

06-06-2005, 08:51 PM

vti or vtis?

Aren't they the same apart from cosmetic details?

Tell your friend to wait for Top Fuel to release its turbo kit. Should give a healthy increase in power and should still be nice to drive considering it's a bolt on kit. Also tell him to do suspension and a decent exhaust.

JA22

06-06-2005, 08:56 PM

Aren't they the same apart from cosmetic details?
yes they are
same engine is used in vti and vtis

OptionEngineering

06-06-2005, 09:03 PM

well
u need a turbo kit if u want to smoke ppl instead of being smoked
LOL
well or K20A

Zimp13

06-06-2005, 09:29 PM

enough guts in its class and for daily uses as he mentioned.... seems too extreme to turbo charged or K20A.....

spoon fit

06-06-2005, 09:36 PM

i think K20A is still ok

Zimp13

06-06-2005, 09:47 PM

i think K20A is still ok

ok???? thats a lot more work than turbo charging the car..... :rolleyes:

spoon fit

06-06-2005, 09:50 PM

ok???? thats a lot more work than turbo charging the car..... :rolleyes:

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ahcash

06-06-2005, 09:56 PM

Just SPOON it up then.. :D

SPOON TB, Full Xforce Exhaust system, CAI and weight reduction...

Zimp13

06-06-2005, 10:00 PM

weight reduction???? u mean u need ur weight reduced?????? jog wank harder man....... gagagagag

spoon fit

06-06-2005, 10:01 PM

hahaha.....

crazyray

06-06-2005, 10:13 PM

looks like cash got a bit owned :D

ahcash

06-06-2005, 10:16 PM

http://board.hondasociety.com/images/paulie/smilies/owned.gif

Looks like I've been owned... http://board.hondasociety.com/images/smilies/jerkit.gif

Seriously... Take the spare wheel off and the rear seats off.. you are at least 20Kgs lighter.. hahahha..

Andys

06-06-2005, 10:18 PM

Seriously... Take the spare wheel off and the rear seats off.. you are at least 20Kgs lighter.. hahahha..

30kg actually.... and the front passenger seat is 20kg

:D

asiansquad

06-06-2005, 10:45 PM

well
u need a turbo kit if u want to smoke ppl instead of being smoked
LOL
well or K20A

lol says who?
i smoked a liberty last night

spoon fit

06-06-2005, 10:49 PM

lol says who?
i smoked a liberty last night

4WD turbo?:D

asiansquad

06-06-2005, 10:55 PM

4wd no turbo
haha

not actually a liberty
subaru impreza

OptionEngineering

06-06-2005, 11:10 PM

hm........
cant really say much unless i am there
lol
well, we will just believe
gagaga

asiansquad

06-06-2005, 11:12 PM

lol i was in the car by myself so i couldn't record it with my fone

Dreams

06-06-2005, 11:24 PM

i can even catch up with a porche 911 boxter..!! easy as!!

.

at the next light of course.. :o :D

asiansquad

06-06-2005, 11:30 PM

lol
but that's not how i did it

Jus-10

06-06-2005, 11:45 PM

The single best and cheapest performance gain comes from replacing the intake. A'pexi do a decent kit (one of which I have for sale, hin, hint) or Ruf Performance here in Sydney have developed a kit that makes slightly more power than the A'pexi kit.

Muli has also achieved excellent gains from his intake setup.

So i would say this is the best bang for your buck mod.

Exhausts sound good, but there is not as much in it as the intake.

Other than that, suspension mods are where it's at....get the suspension sorted on a Jazz and you will be surprised as to how well it handles.

As for the Boxster thing....try taking on a regular Boxster (the older model and not that I condone traffic light races) with Tiptronic. You might be surprised......actually I think the Porsche driver will be even more surprised to see you hanging with him.....

It might be a small car, but it can pack a pretty decent punch when it has to!

muli

07-06-2005, 11:39 AM

Dyno gains showed between 4.5-5kws wit my intake setup, it costed me around $300. With intake and exhaust sorta out and if you remove abit of excess weight, e.g rear seats, spare tyres you will be suprised how well it goes and does give cars around the 100kw a real good go e.g corolla sx, stocko SR20DE and especially SI or Vti early model civics:D

MaxiJazz

20-07-2005, 05:58 PM

MR Spyder

20-07-2005, 06:06 PM

I'm from SGP. Have the Simolta Open pod set for sale.. If u guys're interested in a group buy, I could work out a sweet deal! :)

ANyway, change to the open pod! Love the sound & the performance it gives.. esp @ NIGHT!! :)

MaxiJazz

20-07-2005, 06:09 PM

is there somewhere you could point me out to where I can get more information on these pods....??? Is this a full kit including the Mandrel..??? How much..???

papaya

20-07-2005, 08:10 PM

papaya

20-07-2005, 08:12 PM

Hi guys.....a newbie here.......just trying to "catch" up with everyone here......

So, u were saying Apex, or Ruf CAI kit...??? Where can I get one...??? I live in Perth so as you might guess, theres not a lot goin on here.....or then again i could be wrong, coz Im new around here.........

Anyhow....Im looking to get one installed for sure, but I'm not to sure if thats going to give me enuf confidence to take on an Impreza just as yet......

Any ideas ppl...?? Always appreciated.....cheers..

MaxiJazz, is yours Manual or CVT... the RUF CAI Kit is only for Manual for the time being I think... Apexi Kit, you can do a search in the For Sale Section... I think JUS10 is selling his.. Also, ahcash is selling a set as well .. check it out.

strepto

20-07-2005, 08:39 PM

Dyno gains showed between 4.5-5kws wit my intake setup, it costed me around $300.

I find that VERY Hard to believe. Thats a LOT of gain for just an intake. Was this tuned or untuned?

The best way for your Jazz to go better - cept for a K series swap - is this:

- Rip out the seats, and install two light frontseats from say Sparco or Recaro.
- Get a good intake system
- Have the head PNP'ed by a GOOD porter, do a 0.5mm mill. (I recommend Rocket (www.m24x.com))
- Get a set of +0.5mm 11.6:1 forged pistons
- Get a good header and install a testpipe which is resonated
- Have it all tuned with a good FMU. VAFC isn't good enough (no timing options).

Zimp13

20-07-2005, 08:46 PM

port and polish... thats big bucks here man... hehehe.....

crankshaft

20-07-2005, 09:21 PM

turbo kit, can't bgo wrong with that

Zimp13

20-07-2005, 09:23 PM

turbo kit, can't bgo wrong with that

not for me... heheh... love na....

vividjazz

20-07-2005, 09:57 PM

The VTIS weighs 15kg more than the VTI because of the body kit. People do you think the areodynamics of the bodykit outweigh the weight gain?

Zimp13

20-07-2005, 10:03 PM

The VTIS weighs 15kg more than the VTI because of the body kit. People do you think the areodynamics of the bodykit outweigh the weight gain?

no.....

strepto

21-07-2005, 12:16 AM

port and polish... thats big bucks here man... hehehe.....

Real horsepower never came cheap ;)

turbo kit, can't bgo wrong with that

On a Jazz? Seriously. You cant go more wrong then putting a Turbokit on a L-series engine.

muli

21-07-2005, 09:03 AM

I find that VERY Hard to believe. Thats a LOT of gain for just an intake. Was this tuned or untuned?

Which part is hard to understand, the fact that the pod works or the gains? the standard ecu was tuned:D resetted ecu.

just cant wait till i get my cat-back system completed. In the end for about $1000 i will of gotten a good 10-13kw gain over stock power.

MaxiJazz

21-07-2005, 10:59 AM

Muli....may I ask what ur configuration is...???

Im interested....ppl round here tell me uve got urself a pretty good set up.......

Mind if i take a look at some pics......

Im looking for some inspiration....!!!!!!!!!!

MaxiJazz

21-07-2005, 11:01 AM

strepto

21-07-2005, 04:56 PM

the standard ecu was tuned resetted ecu.

Resetting the ECU hardly counts as tuning :) Or maybe you did a reset and tune? If so, what did you use? I haven't found any tuning systems (No, VAFC doesn't count) that intergrates with the Honda Jazz ECU... :(

As to the gains of 15kw? No. I mean no disrespect, but no. No way you gain 15kW on a Jazz with light boltons. You don't gain 15kW on an ITR with light boltons - trust me - I've tried. 15kW is 24whp, which in Honda terms 27.6 bhp. The Jazz engine isn't designed for that kinda stuff..

muli

22-07-2005, 12:21 PM

Resetting the ECU hardly counts as tuning :) Or maybe you did a reset and tune? If so, what did you use? I haven't found any tuning systems (No, VAFC doesn't count) that intergrates with the Honda Jazz ECU... :(

As to the gains of 15kw? No. I mean no disrespect, but no. No way you gain 15kW on a Jazz with light boltons. You don't gain 15kW on an ITR with light boltons - trust me - I've tried. 15kW is 24whp, which in Honda terms 27.6 bhp. The Jazz engine isn't designed for that kinda stuff..

Learn to read, i quote myself of saying 10-13kw gain. And the smiley at the end when i said about the tuning of ecu should give you a idea what was exactly done

N2O-FIT

22-07-2005, 03:02 PM

you could gain 10-20kW at the wheels with n2o and a piggyback comp. ;)

MaxiJazz

22-07-2005, 03:13 PM

Anyone tried a HKS green mushroom looking like pod on thier Jazz..??? Any opinions.....What in general would be everyone preferencial pod choice be,,>>>

asiansquad

22-07-2005, 03:14 PM

Not sure about the power gains, but looking wise..it's ugly :p

MaxiJazz

22-07-2005, 03:18 PM

I agree asiansquad.....I just wanted someone else to say it, and I wasnt too sure whether there were other HKS users here......

On a seperate note, Im interested in where you got your custom pipe from....and how much did it cost......What filter are u using..???

muli

22-07-2005, 03:39 PM

Sorry Muli, but I have just learned to read......

Got a load of some of ur engine pics......impressive......

Dyou know whether I could get much gain out of just implementing a pod intake like urs....???

What make is urs.......Where can i get it.....And How much did it cost...????

Cheers

the filter is a BMC pod filter, for <1600cc engines. pipe work is made from aluminium and any exhausts shop will be able to fabricate something up for you

strepto

22-07-2005, 07:28 PM

when i said about the tuning of ecu should give you a idea what was exactly done

Well, maybe it's just your lingual skills failing on me. Regardless, you sholdn't write stuff like that :) People may actually believe it to be true.

SiR CRX

31-08-2005, 10:33 PM

On a Jazz? Seriously. You cant go more wrong then putting a Turbo kit on a L-series engine.

Can I ask why this is? I am not disagreeing with you but I am considering a Top Fuel turbo kit for my Jazz and I need to know if the engine will handle it ok.

asiansquad

01-09-2005, 09:38 AM

if u keep it under 9psi...it'll be fine with no internal engine upgrades.

CM208

01-09-2005, 03:58 PM

Mmmm... is it worth to do some of the mods mentioned above on a GLi??

asiansquad

01-09-2005, 04:55 PM

adding a turbo or k20a conversion would be alright for a gli..

GD1 Jazz

03-09-2005, 12:06 AM

Can I ask why this is? I am not disagreeing with you but I am considering a Top Fuel turbo kit for my Jazz and I need to know if the engine will handle it ok.

Is the Top Fuel kit available already??

kentris

03-09-2005, 01:27 AM

what's the max. offset and tire width the jazz can take without it scraping or touching the things for the bumpers?

anjingbalap

03-09-2005, 10:41 AM

Took out the Rear passenger seat and spare wheels.. and put baricaded wall behind driver / front seat.. and put sum SUV or Truck engine at the back.. and remove the front engine for lougage :P....

i beat u can win vs any car :P

aka_NSX

05-09-2005, 12:51 PM

what's the max. offset and tire width the jazz can take without it scraping or touching the things for the bumpers?

Y dont u go to this link CLICK HERE (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18423) ( by: toE)

it has got all useful and good information for JAZZ owner