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Sulley
07-06-2005, 01:08 PM
I got myself a set of 2nd hand rims that i wanted to fit onto my euro.
they are Advan AVS model 5.
18x7.5 pcd 5x114.3 +48.
As my car's still at Honda, i took the rims down and asked Honda to help me fit them. I left them there and was told to pick up my original rims the next day. i called them up this morning and they said the rims don't fit? :confused:
anybody has any idea why?
i asked them and they said well not all 5 studs fit...
well...does it??

yfin
07-06-2005, 01:13 PM
I got myself a set of 2nd hand rims that i wanted to fit onto my euro.
they are Advan AVS model 5.
18x7.5 pcd 5x114.3 +48.
As my car's still at Honda, i took the rims down and asked Honda to help me fit them. I left them there and was told to pick up my original rims the next day. i called them up this morning and they said the rims don't fit? :confused:
anybody has any idea why?
i asked them and they said well not all 5 studs fit...
well...does it??

Call them and ask why - the only thing I can think of is that the spoke design doesn't clear the caliper. That would be unusual given those specs though.

TwEigh
07-06-2005, 07:26 PM
probably the offset?
what is the suitable 18",19" offset for euro?
i know that my 18" is +42

Tu88y
07-06-2005, 08:17 PM
Check the offset of the rims...

PNR888
07-06-2005, 09:36 PM
The spec should be fine.. offset 48 is perfect for Euro.. Albii's 18" has offset 48 too. OEM is 55... so 48 should be far away from rubbing the guard..

The only other problem I can think of is most likely the hole in the centre of the wheel is too small to accommodate Euro's rather big projection in the centre.
see, Euro's OEM 16" fit on IS200 perfectly (Baboo put his OEM 16" on his wife's IS200). But When I tried my brother's IS200 17" Five-spoke wheel on my Euro. The centre bit hit... so maybe u want to check on that as well as rim hitting the caliper.

TwEigh: do u have problem with offset 42?? tyre rubbing on guard? what size is your rim /tyre? is your euro lowered?

TwEigh
07-06-2005, 10:48 PM
The spec should be fine.. offset 48 is perfect for Euro.. Albii's 18" has offset 48 too. OEM is 55... so 48 should be far away from rubbing the guard..

The only other problem I can think of is most likely the hole in the centre of the wheel is too small to accommodate Euro's rather big projection in the centre.
see, Euro's OEM 16" fit on IS200 perfectly (Baboo put his OEM 16" on his wife's IS200). But When I tried my brother's IS200 17" Five-spoke wheel on my Euro. The centre bit hit... so maybe u want to check on that as well as rim hitting the caliper.

TwEigh: do u have problem with offset 42?? tyre rubbing on guard? what size is your rim /tyre? is your euro lowered?


Nope The wheel worked fine, no rubbing. My wheel is 18" and 225/40 is my tyre size.
and yeah i lowered my car by changing the spring. My friend's Euro got 19 inch wheels and he has +38 offset.

LOC888
07-06-2005, 11:23 PM
The Advan AVS 5 is an awesome rim.. check the offset..

jl88rl
07-06-2005, 11:54 PM
I tried my friend's supra wheels today. He wanted to get rid of them i was gunna buy it off him for $1000. I only tried the front right wheel and it protruded out almost by an inch. Is this the 'offset'?

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TwEigh
07-06-2005, 11:58 PM
jl88rl: wat are the tyre size and the rim's width?
correct me if im wrong, i think euro should be fine with offset between +40 to +52
rim width between 7j - 9j
tire width 235 and under
above 235, u need spacer

yfin
08-06-2005, 08:35 AM
It is not the offset - I have 7.5 inch wide rims in a +48 too -that is a good size. But the design of the spokes may be the issue.
TwEigh - those numbers you posted are way too ambitious. eg 9" wide and a +40 offset? Asking for trouble with that sort of combination. Yes, it may fit but it is going to put some major stress on the suspension and bearings. And that is before you even think about whether that size is legal on the Euro.

The general consenus is +42 is the reasonable limit and 8" wide. Personally I recommend people go for +45 or abovein a 7.5" wide. If you search the internet you will see plenty of reasons why not to go too low with offsets.

Always use this before fitting rims:

http://toy4two.home.mindspring.com/offset.html

Nickt
08-06-2005, 09:20 AM
Thats a handy little calculator Yfin...nice find!

Just out of curiosity, do you know the offset of the Honda 17s?

Also does anyone know how much the OEM 17s weigh as fitted?

baboo
08-06-2005, 09:26 AM
It might not clear the front caliper

http://www.aa.isas.ne.jp/myvitz/accord/accordaisya/pegu/accordaisya_pegu_05.jpg

This guy has 18 X 8 ET+35 offset, the caliper to the rim is quite close already.

But then the AVS model 5 has curved spokes, it should clear the caliper with ease...unless you bought some 5 X 100 stud by accident?

Sulley
08-06-2005, 09:46 AM
i'll be going down to Honda ltr on in the day to see why it doesnt fit..

ABS121
08-06-2005, 10:38 AM
Jeez didnt you just sell your stock wheels too? what are you going to do if they dont fit?

Sulley
08-06-2005, 10:51 AM
erm..that's a good point..lol
i'm hoping they would fit...
if they don't i gotta get new rims very soon! cause the buyer's gonna pick them up soon..

PNR888
08-06-2005, 11:09 AM
correct me if im wrong, i think euro should be fine with offset between +40 to +52
rim width between 7j - 9j
tire width 235 and under
above 235, u need spacer


OEM 16" wheel: 16" x 6.5".. offset +55 . Tyre: 205/55/16. Weight = approx 16k(wheel + tyre)

OEM 17" wheel: 17" x 7.5" .. offset +55 . Tyre 225/45/17. Weigh = ?

Sulley
08-06-2005, 02:05 PM
It might not clear the front caliper

http://www.aa.isas.ne.jp/myvitz/accord/accordaisya/pegu/accordaisya_pegu_05.jpg

This guy has 18 X 8 ET+35 offset, the caliper to the rim is quite close already.

But then the AVS model 5 has curved spokes, it should clear the caliper with ease...unless you bought some 5 X 100 stud by accident?
spot on baboo..
i just went down to Honda to check it out. The wheels i bought were 5x100 but they were sold as 5x114.3 thus i bought it..now i gotta get rid of them for a refund..

ASSASSIN
08-06-2005, 02:08 PM
Ouch sorry to hear mate.
But you said it was engraved on the back as 5 x114.3

interesting ....

ABS121
08-06-2005, 02:10 PM
that sucks bad, i feel for you.... hope you get a quick sell!

Sulley
08-06-2005, 02:12 PM
spot on baboo..
i just went down to Honda to check it out. The wheels i bought were 5x100 but they were sold as 5x114.3 thus i bought it..now i gotta get rid of them for a refund..
erm..i thought i did. :p
then i had a closer look and realised all it said was 18x7.5. +48

Zdster
08-06-2005, 02:18 PM
Dont know if the offset is right but might be worthwhile checking out the subaru boards as a few of there cars (ie wrx) have a 5x100 stud pattern. Goodluck trying to sort it all out :).

baboo
08-06-2005, 02:58 PM
yeah wack them on the WRX board 97~04 version all have 5 X 100 PCD.

EuroAccord13
08-06-2005, 05:09 PM
If it was advertised wrongly, can't you return the wheels?

yfin
08-06-2005, 05:55 PM
If it was advertised wrongly, can't you return the wheels?

Yeah - get your money back if it was advertised as 5x114. 5x100 is totally different stud pattern - no chance of getting those to fit. I think we can put to rest the offset issue.

Sulley
08-06-2005, 05:59 PM
i have emailed the seller asking for refund and he has to to reply..
i'll see how it goes!
anyway i finally got my car back. but i'm missing a passenger seat belt..
they ordered the part in but according to them, it was the driver side's, so they had to order a new one and it take 2 weeks, so i just took my car back first. and i'll just bring it down to get it fixed up once they get the part.
and the park cost $427..wow..for a seat belt..