EG Si or VTi for B16A conversion?

[SiR CRX]

Posting this on behalf of a mate who is buying an EG with the intention of putting in a B16A. He wants to get one with all the power options and likes the VTi because of the sunroof option. Basically what I need to know is which one is easier to do a B16A conversion on? Is there an difference at all between the two that would affect the conversion? He will be buying a manual car and also he wants it to remain reliable and trouble free (as it wil be driven daily) after the conversion so what are the chances of this happening? Are there any common problems?

Thanks guys

[Tu88y]

Why not do a B18 conversion....

[flipmods]

Doesn't matter which model as they are nearly both the same, only difference is maybe 2 wires, nothing worth worrying about for a conversion.

[Tu88y]

Doesn't matter which model as they are nearly both the same, only difference is maybe 2 wires, nothing worth worrying about for a conversion.

Does that goes the same with converting a B18 in a EK civic

[tRipitaka]

Does that goes the same with converting a B18 in a EK civic

depedns which EK ur talking about..
if EK4, it'd be a bolt-out/bolt-in job as the b-series mounts are there already..

[SiR CRX]

So is the conversion simple? Will it be reliable if the motor is in good condition? And also how much more will a B18 cost over a B16A?

[Paul1985]

im pretty sure a b18c is about 2-3k dearer than the b16a... all depends on AUDM/JDM cond. of motor etc...
i wanted to do it in a vti for a while coz the sunroof does look nice, but the vti is heavier because of options like the sunroof, si is prob the lightest EG, but for off-street it would be fine, would be my choice, the extra weight wouldnt bother me.. id be considering a b18c if he has the extra $$$ lots more torque, better engine IMO

Just do a b16a and b18c search, you'll find stacks of info..

i believe doing either of those swaps can be very reliable, but its bound to cause him some headaches, buying a car with these engines stock is usually more reliable i think, but we cant buy our EG's with B-series engines here unfortunately

[[[d a n n y]]]

Doesnt matter what car u put it in
D-serise and B serise mount points are the same eventhough the engine mount is different.

i'd prefer a Si for the conversion no sunroof is better and no chassis flex around the roof

[tRipitaka]

do both the VTI's and Si's have rear discs ?

[SiR CRX]

Yeah they do that's why he want's one.

[_CiVIC_]

Si bro, much lighter, less chassis flex!!! better launching ;)

[SiR CRX]

What makes the Si much lighter mate? Don't both models have the same features like air, steer and power windows etc? I thought the only diff was a sunroof.

[[[d a n n y]]]

What makes the Si much lighter mate? Don't both models have the same features like air, steer and power windows etc? I thought the only diff was a sunroof.
dont worry about him.
i'll go for the Si
Si's are much cheaper than VTi's generally

[daidoidoi]

Si is DOHC ....where do people find there EGs??? they are very limited on carsales and drive etc .....any recommendation in finding them ???

[djgarv]

yeah si's seem rare as...

[aStRooo]

not really, if ur willing to do the hunting. my mate got one for 6 gz, basically stock. that was in SA too, cars tend to be a bit more expensive here.

[_CiVIC_]

here you go buddy.. sourced from redbook.com.au

1993 HONDA CIVIC
EG Hatchback Si 3dr Man 5sp 1.6i
Kerb Weight 1016kg
Power 96kW @ 6800rpm


1993 HONDA CIVIC
Hatchback VTi 3dr Man 5sp 1.6i (Oct onwards)
Kerb Weight 1051kg
Power 96kW @ 6600rpm

[_CiVIC_]

in my opinion 35kg weight difference is still quite considerable ;)
by the way the Si and VTi both came with optional air conditioning at the time..

[SiR JDM]

here you go buddy.. sourced from redbook.com.au


That is the first problem with your post. :p No offence mate, its just Redbook is well known for posting bullshit and wrong information.

However it is logical as the VTi came with sunroof that that would be where the extra weight would located.

[vinhy]

did si come in abs?

[[[d a n n y]]]

in my opinion 35kg weight difference is still quite considerable ;)
by the way the Si and VTi both came with optional air conditioning at the time..

yeah like 0.1mm diffence when take off ey
which means no difference

[z3lda]

did si come in abs?

no.
nor did vti's

[[[d a n n y]]]

no.
nor did vti's
later model VTi's did
late 94 to 95

[zco]

]']later model VTi's did
late 94 to 95

can anyone verify this !??!. i have searched everywhere, and still cant find definate answer.

[Steer^Gimic]

why bother choosing over a 35kg weight difference.

buy a breeze

[VTC-8OY]

vti fo shaw, cruise in style with sunfroof n not sacrifice few kgs over nuffin

[hoonda]

]']later model VTi's did
late 94 to 95

late models came with traction control, but NOT ABS. i have a 4/95 VTi, one of the last ones made. no ABS.