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spetz
08-06-2005, 02:45 AM
I was talking to a friend.
And he asked me if I knew what a spoon engine is, and I'll be honest I have never researched this, but I just told him that it's a Honda engine with all spoon parts on, like cams, headers, intake manifolds, internals exhaust etc.
He said I was wrong, he told me a spoon engine is when they change the way the fuel is sprayed into the cylinders, creating some sort of a swirling effect.
Now, I know this guy knows more than me about cars so I didn't wanna say it doesn't sound right, can you guys enlighten me??

SiR CRX
08-06-2005, 02:56 AM
What the fu ck?

Your friend sounds like a twat mate. I would assume a Spoon engine is a fully built crate motor with all Spoon parts throughout.

simon
08-06-2005, 03:03 AM
yea, what spoon is all about is getting a factory made Honda engine, and refining those parts.

spoondc2
08-06-2005, 03:09 AM
swirling effect?
Cool...... washing machine? Hehe

Well i think it's just a Honda engine + spoon parts + balanced internals
Someone told me it's 12k brand new shipped from Spoon? Not sure maybe it's just a bullshit

SiR CRX
08-06-2005, 03:49 AM
12K seems unbelievably cheap. I know a guy who bought a JUN SR20DET and it cost him over 60K, that's just for the engine, no turbo or anything. Spoon parts are damn pricey so I would assume the engine would be atleast 40K.

egSi
08-06-2005, 07:43 AM
yeah spoon engine = crate engine from japan :thumbsup:

prolly needs to be rebuilt every week lol

panda[cRx]
08-06-2005, 07:58 AM
a pair of sr20's would pull a premium before racewars

Kawasaki
08-06-2005, 08:00 AM
']a pair of sr20's would pull a premium before racewars

I'll see you at race wars

Tu88y
08-06-2005, 08:01 AM
Spoon engine is a Honda engine with all Spoon parts in it..

kenshin
08-06-2005, 08:13 AM
lol @ swirling comment...

musta been dropped as a baby

JDMTMY
08-06-2005, 08:17 AM
"He said I was wrong, he told me a spoon engine is when they change the way the fuel is sprayed into the cylinders, creating some sort of a swirling effect."

EEEERRRRRR OOOKKAAAYYYYY.......

pretty sure its engine made up with spoon goodies

jimmeh
08-06-2005, 08:28 AM
spoon motor is an engine assembled at the spoon factory in japan with all there goodies in it. you can have an engine and put all spoons products on there , people wont consider it to be a spoon motor. ill let u in on a secrect alot of spoon parts are balanced OEM honda items.

Stroza
08-06-2005, 08:29 AM
I'll see you at race wars

You were granny shifting not double clutchin like you should :D :thumbsup:

jackosimm
08-06-2005, 08:33 AM
lol swirling effect...lol
Even if so, what resembelence does that have to a spoon/ the spoon lol

Mr. Focus
08-06-2005, 08:51 AM
spoon motor is an engine assembled at the spoon factory in japan with all there goodies in it. you can have an engine and put all spoons products on there , people wont consider it to be a spoon motor. ill let u in on a secrect alot of spoon parts are balanced OEM honda items.

this man knows his Spoon! spoon arent about hardcore racing accessories, they're about refining and balancing OEM parts. want to know more, check out the latest issue of Auto Salon magazine. they do a shoot with the spoon S2000 and give an insight into what Spoon is really about

mugeneration
08-06-2005, 08:53 AM
maybe its something that results due to a replaced part or something, like they replace the injectors so it squirts the fuel better or something, but even then, thats not what a spoon engine 'is'.

ekslut
08-06-2005, 09:37 AM
The Spoon engine assembly is a new longblock that is balanced, blueprinted, and assembled by Spoon. The B18C-R comprises stock Honda internals with the addition of a Spoon 2 piece headgasket for slightly higher compression and a Spoon oil pump for improved oil flow. The pistons, connecting rods, and crankshaft are balanced to within 0.1g accuracy, resulting in smoother power delivery, improved mid to high range power, and high rpm stability. Combustion chamber capacity variance is reduced to under 0.2cc and everything is torqued exactly to spec. The compression ratio of this engine is 11.3:1. Peak power output is 200hp at the flywheel. This engine is ideal for endurance racing such as FIA Group N where stock component engines are required.
Taken from the AJ-Racing website (North American distributors)

And the spoon engine is around $10,000ish from memory

slim
08-06-2005, 09:47 AM
Where i work we were the Australian distributors for Spoon, they are f**kn expensive lol, even things such as cam gears and exhaust where rediculously priced for something that looks so simple. The engines are expensive and like stated above they are a blueprinted had assembled engine so thats what you pay for.

simon
08-06-2005, 10:02 AM
ill let u in on a secrect alot of spoon parts are balanced OEM honda items.

like i said.

but who knows, maybe the way spoon tune their engines might bring about the swirling effect.

Kawasaki
08-06-2005, 10:14 AM
this swirling affect sounds like rubbish to me

Surrufus
08-06-2005, 10:39 AM
he's running three honda civics with spoon engines...

is that all the general public know about spoon???

vtecchie
08-06-2005, 10:48 AM
LOL!

Kawasaki
08-06-2005, 10:48 AM
he's running three honda civics with spoon engines...

is that all the general public know about spoon???

Yes, Its called the fast and furious generation aka idiots :D

z3lda
08-06-2005, 10:49 AM
i need 3 spoon engines with t66's.....

Q_ball
08-06-2005, 10:53 AM
i heard somewhere spoon engine allows u to rev up to 14k, vtec engages at 6k, thats ****in 8k worth of vtec pleasure?!

Q_ball
08-06-2005, 10:54 AM
i need 3 spoon engines with t66's.....

hahaha funny kunt :D

tRipitaka
08-06-2005, 10:54 AM
i'd hate to say this, but i'd think u'd get bored of vtec after 9k..
it'll just get annoying..

*puts on flamesuit

SpOOn-FED
08-06-2005, 10:59 AM
yeh iv spent a bit of money on spoon parts and i gota say it aint your everyday custom parts..........

the reason why i bought the parts from spoon is because i trust them they specifically make parts for honda'z and honda'z only but yer a spoon engine is not the way the fuel is sprayed and swirling effect or watever that guy says but its a base honda engine tuned and refitted by spoon with genuine spoon parts and mechanics...

im not actually sure how much the spoon engine is, im prety sure its damn expensive my ecu alone was 5k id hate to think how much a whole spoon built engine is
im not very good at maths but im guessing too much.......

EGB16A
08-06-2005, 11:13 AM
ring up johnny tran or his brother... cos they got over $100k of spoon engine under their bonnets!

ekslut
08-06-2005, 11:25 AM
i heard somewhere spoon engine allows u to rev up to 14k, vtec engages at 6k, thats ****in 8k worth of vtec pleasure?!

naaa...you coun't rev that high. Remember its pretty much a stock engine balanced. Rev limiter would just over 9000 I would say, and VTEC probably would kick in at about 6000. The spoon cams are just a little bit more aggressive than stock CTR ones anyways, so power would be dying at or before about 9000rpm.

civ_sik
08-06-2005, 11:32 AM
well i saw 16,000rpm on a civic type r on grand turismo 3 (a reliable source) :p lol

weezer
08-06-2005, 11:51 AM
how about a spoon so you can eat my ass?

egSi
08-06-2005, 12:03 PM
i just emailed spoon, and they sed a spoon engine is any engine with some spoon resevoir socks :thumbsup:

J-MuN
08-06-2005, 12:13 PM
SpOOOOOn!!.. :D "the fuel squirts out differently"... funny stuff... ;)


the reason why i bought the parts from spoon is because i trust them they specifically make parts for honda'z and honda'z only but yer a spoon engine is not the way the fuel is sprayed and swirling effect or watever that guy says but its a base honda engine tuned and refitted by spoon with genuine spoon parts and mechanics...
wat about mugen products then?...

Z
08-06-2005, 12:17 PM
i just emailed spoon, and they sed a spoon engine is any engine with some spoon resevoir socks :thumbsup:

hahaha, gold.

many other quality/amusing calls in this thread too...nice work peepz :thumbsup:

Mr. Focus
08-06-2005, 12:21 PM
i just emailed spoon, and they sed a spoon engine is any engine with some spoon resevoir socks :thumbsup:

u must of emailed the wrong place. they emailed me and told me that having spoon reservoir socks was like having Type R stickers on your VL hahahahahahaha jks

spetz
08-06-2005, 01:36 PM
Yes I thought he was full of shit.
He did a TAFE mechanics course and there is no argueing with him and cars.

I had an arguement with him about a vacuum gauge, I told him when you floor it vacuum increases (goes further into -ives) and he was insisting that no it goes to 0 when floored.

Paul1985
08-06-2005, 01:48 PM
lol at swirling effect...
petrol is INJECTED into the cylinders via injectors, obviously.. im pretty sure older cars with carby's spray fuel into the cyllinders, which he may somehow have thought this was called a spoon effect or something????

bennjamin
08-06-2005, 02:08 PM
The question has been answered...and again for future searches...

A spoon engine is a stock block with balanced OEM parts ... plus a spoon in the intake pipe for a "swirling " effect :)



Keep any chit chat to teh lounge next time ok fellas.

type one
08-06-2005, 02:15 PM
thank you to ekslut for the only correct response.

I have a feeling that this is the basic model and a "special request" can be made for a crate engine - but yes spoon specialise in Group N.

pgclee
08-06-2005, 05:18 PM
spoon...some people say is a con job, and i was thinking that the same way...but after i saw the Spoon A class ITR..i have nth to say but...OMG...it just trash an EVO7 on the straight..and it's pulling further and further and further..and..opps...where's the evo7??....

and...the car is using Spoon Spec A cams...soo...i wonder where all the power comes from...hmm...

EuroAccord13
08-06-2005, 05:20 PM
You should have told him you thought a Spoon Engine is where spoons are used to replace the conrods and pistons of the engine...

So, Spoon is to Honda like Corsa/HSV is to Holden where they buy the block and modify it yeah?

spetz
08-06-2005, 06:27 PM
I thought that was Mugen to Honda?

SpOOn-FED
08-06-2005, 11:06 PM
SpOOOOOn!!.. :D "the fuel squirts out differently"... funny stuff... ;)


wat about mugen products then?...

i still gots mugen parts but i favor spoon more my kuzns in the philz have all spoon modified cars to race and stuff and der rivals have mainly mugen parts so i gues im jus trying to keep it real for my kuzns hehehehe

SpOOn-FED
08-06-2005, 11:13 PM
oh and to stay on topic.......

mugen is the main tuner for honda'z
spoon is like CSV for holden they rival HSV the main tuning company for that make.....

but spoon engines are crazy im hoping by the end of my tuning for my DC5R
i would beable to rev upto 11-maybeh 12k........................

(fingers crossed heres hoping) iv seen a b18c rev upto 14k but that was with massive money input and months and months of tuning......
but still im hoping that i would beable to......but for some reaosn i dun think i can....

og5950
08-06-2005, 11:49 PM
therez a lot about the swirling effect on honda-tech
article i found on there about all the different vtec types here

http://asia.vtec.net/spfeature/vtecimpl/vtec1.html

_CiVIC_
08-06-2005, 11:52 PM
i will hopefully be gettin a spoon motor in mum's integra typeS once i inherit it lol.. spoon stuff is always d way to go!! w00t w00t

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gambate
08-06-2005, 11:54 PM
pgclee: is that in a video or u saw it in real life?

tRipitaka
09-06-2005, 01:01 AM
i will hopefully be gettin a spoon motor in mum's integra typeS once i inherit it lol.. spoon stuff is always d way to go!! w00t w00t

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if spoons the way to go, how come ur selling ur spoon lip ? :confused: :confused: :confused:

[M*]
09-06-2005, 01:06 AM
"swirling" i think he means theres a "spoon" in the fuel tank that swirls causing the fuel to be injected differennt ;)

TYPE-ONE
09-06-2005, 01:11 AM
Who is spoon. Never heard of that tuning company... O.o

|N|
09-06-2005, 01:26 AM
Who is spoon. Never heard of that tuning company... O.o

sister company of fork and knife

[M*]
09-06-2005, 01:31 AM
haha i feel sorry for that guy now... i can see where this is going for the next 2 to 3 pages its just gonna be peolpe flaming him.... well atleast hes not on the forums;)


sister company of fork and knife

aaronng
09-06-2005, 11:37 AM
Actually, your injectors don't inject fuel into the cylinder. It injects into the throttle body area, where it mixes and then a mixture enters the cylinder. The engines that inject fuel into the cylinder are the direct injection engines such as Alfa's JTS and Lexus' new engines.

bennjamin
09-06-2005, 12:14 PM
Actually, your injectors don't inject fuel into the cylinder. It injects into the throttle body area, where it mixes and then a mixture enters the cylinder.

:confused:

Injectors , in honda terms anyway "inject" right before the inlet valve opening - not in the throttle body area.


Guys - where is this thread going ?

The question HAS been answered and this is going off topic.

Please keep all the unrelated chit chat and silly comments to the LOUNGE :D

[[d a n n y]]
09-06-2005, 03:34 PM
Spoon Engine is a Engine that is built from the spoon factory using Spoon Parts
simple as that

bennjamin
09-06-2005, 10:36 PM
thankyou danny thats all the clarification we need.

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