Bpipe for Jazz

[Zimp13]

I ve just installed the bpipe, just wanna share with people that i m really really surprised that bpipe would make such huge improvement to the response of the car. All revs improvement is huge especially to the low end. I thought that the extra size compared to the the oem one wouldnt make that much of a difference but i am wrong. For those who only has the muffler, adding the bpipe would surprise u..... :D :thumbsup:

[D16Y]

xforce bpipe?
wat exhuast have u got?

[spoon fit]

xforce

[Zimp13]

all xforce..... may be the header contributes as well... but boy the difference is well noticeable..... more power....

[D16Y]

cool nice to hear!
4-1 or 4-2-1?

[TypeG]

for the price, i cant find any better is my review on Xforce bpipe as quality is better than custom work and cost a lot cheaper.

[spoon fit]

can u tell us how much for the xforce bpipe pls

[TypeG]

$2XX max if u have one ppl share the muffler with u

[devil]

Zimp13, are you using the xforce rear muffler as well? im interested in getting just the rear muffler (xforce big barrel type) only, would it fit perfectly onto the stock bpipe without any cutting/welding? :confused:

[asiansquad]

danny's jazz goes pretty quick

my 1st gear can't even catch up to his 1st gear :(

[spoon fit]

u sure?

[Dreams]

i must say, its very impressive too :thumbsup: :rolleyes:

[Zimp13]

Zimp13, are you using the xforce rear muffler as well? im interested in getting just the rear muffler (xforce big barrel type) only, would it fit perfectly onto the stock bpipe without any cutting/welding? :confused:

yes i am using xforce rear muffler as well... the muffler would fit perfectly on the stock bpipe, no cutting and welding.... thats wat i had before... problem is xforce doesnt sell the bpipe and muffler separately.... u need to get some one that willing to get the bpipe from u... but i strongly recommend to use both...... by the way, if u need xforce stuff, pm me as i sell them.... :)

[Zimp13]

cool nice to hear!
4-1 or 4-2-1?

i believe its 4-2-1 but it looks like 4-1 as well.....

http://img48.echo.cx/img48/488/header4el.jpg

[Zimp13]

can u tell us how much for the xforce bpipe pls

xforce dun sell them separately.... must get as one with the muffler..... :D

[Zimp13]

danny's jazz goes pretty quick

my 1st gear can't even catch up to his 1st gear :(

heheheh.... not as quik as sunny car lar... jdm man..... granny XR20 also lose wor..... gagaggagaga ;)

[Andys]

heheheh.... not as quik as sunny car lar... jdm man..... granny XR20 also lose wor..... gagaggagaga ;)

Ok, thats IT! I no longer understand any of what you guys talk about in these forums... :confused:


:D

- Andrew

[Zimp13]

Ok, thats IT! I no longer understand any of what you guys talk about in these forums... :confused:


:D

- Andrew

sorry andrew... heheh.... cos sunny raced with an xr8 or xr6 (cant remember) before and he won... so i said the driver must be a grannie.... hahahha

[Andys]

sorry andrew... heheh.... cos sunny raced with an xr8 or xr6 (cant remember) before and he won... so i said the driver must be a grannie.... hahahha

Ahh, ok. You know the jazz can win against a non-turbo XR6, those things weigh like 1700kg, not including granny.. Bur XR6T or XR8 is a different matter!

- Andrew

[muli]

Ahh, ok. You know the jazz can win against a non-turbo XR6, those things weigh like 1700kg, not including granny.. Bur XR6T or XR8 is a different matter!

- Andrew

we got a BA at work and there is really no difference with XR6 or XT and with g-tech it does 7.89-8.12 secs 0-100km/h and quarter 15.78 is best ive gotten but this thing does eat old 5l SS(stock ones) easily, mini cooper S, straightline the ba starts pulling away above speeds of 100

[devil]

yes i am using xforce rear muffler as well... the muffler would fit perfectly on the stock bpipe, no cutting and welding.... thats wat i had before... problem is xforce doesnt sell the bpipe and muffler separately.... u need to get some one that willing to get the bpipe from u... but i strongly recommend to use both...... by the way, if u need xforce stuff, pm me as i sell them.... :)

ok...then how about the bpipe fitting into a 2005 jazz vti? any fitting problems/difficulties? coz i think i read somewhere about the xforce cat sensor doesnt fit well or something.... :confused:

zimp13, please PM me the price for bpipe + big barrel muffler set. thanks. :D

[asiansquad]

the cat sensor doesn't go onto the bpipe

goes on the downpipe...just make sure u don't put the downpipe that came with the header into your car because it has no cat and u'll get a malfunction indicator lamp on

[devil]

the cat sensor doesn't go onto the bpipe

goes on the downpipe...just make sure u don't put the downpipe that came with the header into your car because it has no cat and u'll get a malfunction indicator lamp on

:confused: err...sorry abit confused. so, the bpipe + muffler is a catback system yeah? and it has nothing to do with the cat sensor? thanks.... :o :D

[asiansquad]

the cat is located on the downpipe
and the sensors are there

[Jazzle]

zimp, so the bpiple and muffler come together... how much r they?? pm me please =)
and wat other mod u got in ur exhaust system??

[devil]

anyone got pictures of the xforce catback system (bpipe + muffler)?? the pics the their website is abit small, cant really see how it all looks like...

[asiansquad]

jazzle u in melb??

[asiansquad]

anyone got pictures of the xforce catback system (bpipe + muffler)?? the pics the their website is abit small, cant really see how it all looks like...

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y257/asiansquad/XForce_Honda_Jazz_Full_Exhaust.jpg

[devil]

the cat is located on the downpipe
and the sensors are there

ok thanks... ;)

[ahcash]

zimp, so the bpiple and muffler come together... how much r they?? pm me please =)
and wat other mod u got in ur exhaust system??

Headers would be good...

Just get the whole set... :thumbsup:

[Jus-10]

Good stuff....

I'm still deciding what to do on the header front....remour has it that x-force may be working on a proper 4-2-1 design manfild something more a long the lines of the DC5 style.....I'll have to find out about that.

Did you end up getting a cat fited to the system Zimp??

[kimo]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y257/asiansquad/XForce_Honda_Jazz_Full_Exhaust.jpg

I don't see any cat there, and what about the sensors.

[Zimp13]

Good stuff....

I'm still deciding what to do on the header front....remour has it that x-force may be working on a proper 4-2-1 design manfild something more a long the lines of the DC5 style.....I'll have to find out about that.

Did you end up getting a cat fited to the system Zimp??

no i didnt..... no after market hi flow cat is small enough to fit......

[bagaichiban]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y257/asiansquad/XForce_Honda_Jazz_Full_Exhaust.jpg

How much for the whole set like that??? start kinda being interested now

[bagaichiban]

yes i am using xforce rear muffler as well... the muffler would fit perfectly on the stock bpipe, no cutting and welding.... thats wat i had before... problem is xforce doesnt sell the bpipe and muffler separately.... u need to get some one that willing to get the bpipe from u... but i strongly recommend to use both...... by the way, if u need xforce stuff, pm me as i sell them.... :)

Zimp13, do you think you can get a deal which is only Bpipe without the muffler?

[Zimp13]

Zimp13, do you think you can get a deal which is only Bpipe without the muffler?

i cant.... recently i managed to get some one to share with me... meaning that he gets the muffler and i get the bpipe... thats y i put my bpipe for sale in the forum.... no one was interested so i put on my car and try it out.... at first i thought not much difference at all, but i was so surprised of the gain through the bpipe... it improves the performance at the whole range not just low end... the reason y i m selling the bpipe after getting it (took me very long to manage to get a buyer for the muffler) is i am going back next month... but now i am keepin the bpipe on the car as the car will not be sold yet for the time being.... only way is for u to get a buyer for the muffler.... ohhhh there is also a guy who wanna the muffler as well the other day... if u interested i can give u his username as he wans the muffler only.... or anyone else interested..... :)

[ahcash]

... if u interested i can give u his username as he wans the muffler only.... or anyone else interested..... :)

I want I want ... :thumbsup:

[Jus-10]

I just hope you don't get caught without a cat before you go.....now that would be a nice farewell present!

[asiansquad]

I just hope you don't get caught without a cat before you go.....now that would be a nice farewell present!

he has the stock cat but not the high flow cat

[Zimp13]

my setup is xforce header + oem downpipe + xforce bpipe + xforce muffler

[spoon fit]

my setup is xforce header + oem downpipe + xforce bpipe + xforce muffler


good! :thumbsup: x-man

[asiansquad]

danny has a fetish for xforce products ;)

haha

[Zimp13]

i m poor mar... cant afford the jap ones...
so anyone wan the bpipe??? cos there is guy that only wans the muffler..... :D

[kimo]

my setup is xforce header + oem downpipe + xforce bpipe + xforce muffler


This mean you have no cat in your car

[ahcash]

This mean you have no cat in your car

Zimp13 has the original Cat I think..

[TypeG]

go hiflow cat
u will feel extra power as stock downpipe limit a lot

[asiansquad]

This mean you have no cat in your car

original cat is located on the downpipe

[Jus-10]

Sorry my bad, I misread.....you can easily get a custom bit made up with a hi-flow cat

[strepto]

What about the Spoon B-pipe? Worth the money?

[ahcash]

What about the Spoon B-pipe? Worth the money?

I reckon the best so far would be the Spoon Bpipe... If money is no object. :D

[Zimp13]

What about the Spoon B-pipe? Worth the money?

hehehe... spoon......... expensive... but of cos good.....

[kimo]

hehehe... spoon......... expensive... but of cos good.....


So dude you didn't answer do you have the stock cat, as the picture of the X-Force doesn't show any cat.

[Zimp13]

oem downpipe = the stock cat is attached to the oem downpipe.
to answer your question, yes i am using stock catalic converter which is attached to the stock downpipe....

[asiansquad]

hehehe... spoon......... expensive... but of cos good.....

i got the fujitsubo bpipe + muffler...getting it installed today..will tell you guys if it's better than danny's xforce bpipe + muffler :D

[devil]

i got the fujitsubo bpipe + muffler...getting it installed today..will tell you guys if it's better than danny's xforce bpipe + muffler :D

wow, fujitsubo :thumbsup: how much? any pics? post some for us to see :D

[asiansquad]

got it @ a good price ;)

will post pics up after installing..still waiting for friend to install...should hve it done in a few hours :D

[strepto]

I wont deny that Spoon is fairly good quality, but even they have had some serious issues with their b-pipe. Remember the VTi and ITR B-Pipe? Raaaaattle!

[asiansquad]

once again. Just because it's spoon, doesn't mean they don't make any errors :)

[strepto]

Id love to see some pics of your exhaust system. Are there testpipes avaiable for the Jazz?

[asiansquad]

i'm still waiting to have it installed =\

[Zimp13]

i got the fujitsubo bpipe + muffler...getting it installed today..will tell you guys if it's better than danny's xforce bpipe + muffler :D

how to compare??? heheh..... y dun compare with other ppl HKS, Vision and Spoon....... u should compare $2 orange with other $2 orange.... not $2 orange with $1.... anyway, i ll still accept the challenge.... heheheh....

[asiansquad]

who knows??

ur xforce might end up sounding better than my fujitsubo :p

[Zimp13]

once again. Just because it's spoon, doesn't mean they don't make any errors :)

same-o same-o then... u can say that abt fujisutbo exhaust as well, not only spoon..... hiakhiakhiak.... ;)

[asiansquad]

same-o same-o then... u can say that abt fujisutbo exhaust as well, not only spoon..... hiakhiakhiak.... ;)

haha will let u know after tonight

[Zimp13]

who knows??

ur xforce might end up sounding better than my fujitsubo :p

shouldnt say MY xforce, should just say my car....... heheheh

[asiansquad]

hahaha

same thing :D

[Zimp13]

look... all are good lar.... HKS, Vision, Spoon, Mugen, Fujisutbo, Xforce.... all depends on preference and budget.... no one exhaust is way much better than another (refers to most branded exhaust) cos they all work the same way really.....

[TypeG]

fuji will not sound as nice as xforce for sure
they are quite exhuast

[asiansquad]

true that

[strepto]

I can only speak for myself, but sound is a secondary objective. For me its about the performance, and lets face it, the catback isnt where the ponies lie. The HP gain and throttle response lies in the intake and the header - to a certain degree the cat.

IMHO the money - from a tuninggeeks POV - should be spent on the intake and the header. Sadly, the selection for the GDx is small yet, only Spoon and mugen so far. Im not too impressed with the gains from them either, but then again, its small engines, so what little there is to gain... right? Anyways - the important thing for any exhaust system on a NA'ed 4banger is resonance, explained here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resonance), is the most important thing. Not only for performance, but also for sound. The better the resonation, the easier for the exhaust to exit the engine, and the smoother the sound. You know how cheap exhausts sound raspy/ricey? Thats beacuse they dont resonate the exhaust system for the car its made for :)

[Zimp13]

I can only speak for myself, but sound is a secondary objective. For me its about the performance, and lets face it, the catback isnt where the ponies lie. The HP gain and throttle response lies in the intake and the header - to a certain degree the cat.

IMHO the money - from a tuninggeeks POV - should be spent on the intake and the header. Sadly, the selection for the GDx is small yet, only Spoon and mugen so far. Im not too impressed with the gains from them either, but then again, its small engines, so what little there is to gain... right? Anyways - the important thing for any exhaust system on a NA'ed 4banger is resonance, explained here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resonance), is the most important thing. Not only for performance, but also for sound. The better the resonation, the easier for the exhaust to exit the engine, and the smoother the sound. You know how cheap exhausts sound raspy/ricey? Thats beacuse they dont resonate the exhaust system for the car its made for :)

so how would we know whether the resonance of the muffler is good or not???? for example between spoon and hks... just as an example...

[Jus-10]

What Fuji did you get asian? The powergetter?

Actually the Fuji prices are pretty damn good...very good infact!

The single best system getting around is mine! Full custom stainless, virtually no resonance, quiet (and legal), and it isn't a huge fart-cannon with a tip the size of a drain pipe....but then my requirements meant I couldn't buy something off the shelf.

Sound is a personal thing...I prefer to keep it quiet and not draw attention to myself

;)

[Zimp13]

What Fuji did you get asian? The powergetter?

Actually the Fuji prices are pretty damn good...very good infact!

The single best system getting around is mine! Full custom stainless, virtually no resonance, quiet (and legal), and it isn't a huge fart-cannon with a tip the size of a drain pipe....but then my requirements meant I couldn't buy something off the shelf.

Sound is a personal thing...I prefer to keep it quiet and not draw attention to myself

;)

fuji prices are good... how much are they????

[spoon fit]

so how would we know whether the resonance of the muffler is good or not???? for example between spoon and hks... just as an example...


spoon one lighter than HKS (for jazz muffler)

[spoon fit]

fuji prices are good... how much are they????

$650 cat back

[Jus-10]

Go look on their site man...you will be surprised as to how affordable the Powergetter is!

It lists for 56,000yen (that's without tax)...Tell me where you can get another Jap brand for that price! Iwas going to get it but it hung down too low for my liking

[Zimp13]

$650 cat back

really??? where to get???

[spoon fit]

Go look on their site man...you will be surprised as to how affordable the Powergetter is!

It lists for 56,000yen (that's without tax)...Tell me where you can get another Jap brand for that price! Iwas going to get it but it hung down too low for my liking


u mean any jap brand cat back for jazz under 56,000 yen?

[Zimp13]

Go look on their site man...you will be surprised as to how affordable the Powergetter is!

It lists for 56,000yen (that's without tax)...Tell me where you can get another Jap brand for that price! Iwas going to get it but it hung down too low for my liking

hung 2 low??? cant just get another rubber so it can be hung higher???

[asiansquad]

just installed the fujitsubo powergetter catback...sounds pretty good..very quiet :D

one problem is one of the hooks is different to the stock one and can't fit onto the car..need to make another hook for it =\

overall it is reallly good :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

will post pics up tomorrow

[strepto]

I've always like the Fuji RM01A exhaust. Its deep and quiet. Not sure if its released for the GD yet tho..

[spoon fit]

RM01A??? is it a model name or no.?

[strepto]

http://www.fujitsubo.co.jp/mc-prod/psrs-v.php3?id=00000079

[spoon fit]

I've always like the Fuji RM01A exhaust. Its deep and quiet. Not sure if its released for the GD yet tho..


not yet...

http://www.passion-carnet.com/gt/fujitsubo/fujimuff.htm#RM01A

[TypeG]

Fuji always make good muffler
i was going to get as well as many ppl sell in in fittar forum in HK but I dun like the shape that's all

[asiansquad]

Here is one pic taken from my phone when we were installing the fujitsubo exhaust

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y257/asiansquad/InstallingExhaust.jpg

[asiansquad]

Fuji always make good muffler
i was going to get as well as many ppl sell in in fittar forum in HK but I dun like the shape that's all

The shape of the HKS muffler is pretty nice

[TypeG]

i the like the section after the tip
too big

[devil]

where did u get your fuji from? $650 delivered for a catback system? thats cheap! :thumbsup: i personally prefer the fuji Wagolis muffler, coz im not a fan of cannon style... :D

[spoon fit]

i like spoon n1

[strepto]

Who makes full catbacks for the Jazz now? We should make like a list :)

[ahcash]

i like spoon n1


:thumbsup: Vision !!!!! Same Same :D

[ahcash]

Who makes full catbacks for the Jazz now? We should make like a list :)

1. SPOON
2. XForce
3. Fujitsubo
4. Mugen

[asiansquad]

n1 mufflers are tooo loud..attract too much attention :p

[ahcash]

n1 mufflers are tooo loud..attract too much attention :p


Thats the whole point, Ronald!!! :D You want ppl to look at your car.. dun you???

[Jus-10]

Mugen's aren't full cat-backs are they? I thought they were only axlebacks?

Buddy Club also do a cat back.....the sinlge loudest cat back available fort he GD - trust me, I had one.....then sold it after a couple of weeks!

The zorst looks good asian....

Tell me how I could use different rubbers to raise it.....my car is already only a couple of inches off the ground. That would scrape almost constantly!

[spoon fit]

1. SPOON
2. XForce
3. Fujitsubo
4. Mugen x



4. Buddy Club
5. Tanabe
6. 5 Zigen

[Zimp13]

7. Custom made

[spoon fit]

8. Trust

[MRFIT]

Here is one pic taken from my phone when we were installing the fujitsubo exhaust

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y257/asiansquad/InstallingExhaust.jpg

ronald.... u lazy bastard..... getting someone else to do all your dirty work... :D

[spoon fit]

ronald, where is the pic?

[asiansquad]

hahahaha
hven't had time...i was at box hill today...i left something in the car..went back to it..and saw the bpipe was a bit low..so i touched it..and damn..i burnt myself coze it was so hot

[spoon fit]

http://board.hondasociety.com/images/paulie/smilies/imwithstupid.gif hehe

[asiansquad]

got some pics here :D

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y257/asiansquad/DSC00064.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y257/asiansquad/DSC00063.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y257/asiansquad/DSC00062_1.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y257/asiansquad/DSC00061.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y257/asiansquad/DSC00060.jpg

[strepto]

I bet it sounds nice, but I see a clearance issues there. It hangs raelly low, and so, with a lovered car, it would be a pain in the ass at least here in Norway. Arent there catback systems which utilizes the OEM design, where the tailpipe is bending down, thus allowing for a more tighter fit?

[asiansquad]

one of the hooks isn't hooking properly that's why..gotta get it fixed

[JazzR]

review on the FGK exhaust please? :D

[strepto]

one of the hooks isn't hooking properly that's why

Oh, I see. Its kinda hard to see from the picture, but is there a cutout in the rear skirt for the muffler?

[asiansquad]

review on the FGK exhaust please? :D
Very quiet...just by hearing, you can't tell there's a new exhaust installed.

Torque has increased...car is going smooth and faster than before :D

Still thinking if i should get a high flow cat or not...i might just get it dyno/tuned without a high flow cat.

had ppl jumping in and didn't even know i've installed an exhaust..hahaha


Oh, I see. Its kinda hard to see from the picture, but is there a cutout in the rear skirt for the muffler?

yeah..couldn't take the pic properly. nah no cut out

[JazzR]

Thanks for the review! :D

How you compared it with the seXforce one yet?

[asiansquad]

haha i'll bring it to danny's house sometime this week..and we'll see how they sound next to each other :D

[Zimp13]

after i put the xforce bpipe the sound of the exhaust becomes different. Deeper and louder. But really improve the response of the vehicle.

[strepto]

Where can I get the X-Force?

[devil]

I bet it sounds nice, but I see a clearance issues there. It hangs raelly low, and so, with a lovered car, it would be a pain in the ass at least here in Norway. Arent there catback systems which utilizes the OEM design, where the tailpipe is bending down, thus allowing for a more tighter fit?

i found in the fuji's website they have another muffler for the jazz, the "Wagolis" version. it looks more 'conventional', its not the cannon type. maybe that would be better in terms of clearance...but its only an axle back though....doesnt have bpipe.

[asiansquad]

Where can I get the X-Force?

msg zimp13, he should be able to help ya

[spoon fit]

msg zimp13, he should be able to help ya


yes, X-Man

[muli]

Where can I get the X-Force?


http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17327&highlight=jazz

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17329&highlight=jazz


this is the cheapest ive seen so far, couple of traders sell bout $80-100 above these prices

[kuso]

yea they are cheap :thumbsup:

[Zimp13]

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17327&highlight=jazz

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17329&highlight=jazz


this is the cheapest ive seen so far, couple of traders sell bout $80-100 above these prices

unfortunately Todaau doesnt sell xforce anymore.... get it from him if he has.... ask of a few people that has pm him before, he never replied back... $80 - $100 more is the supposedly selling price of these items...