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locote
30-06-2005, 11:45 PM
:)
is it worth getting a lightened fly wheel any one out have 1 installed and felt difference??

ginganggooly
30-06-2005, 11:48 PM
got a toda 4.xkg flywheel here, i love it. the motor feels so much more energetic, and 1st and 2nd gear have noticably more urge.
i didn't notice any real downside to it...

locote
30-06-2005, 11:49 PM
wat is the standard weight on a stok fly??

ginganggooly
30-06-2005, 11:59 PM
9-10? i'm not sure, but the stocker felt a shitload heavier when i was holding them together.

locote
01-07-2005, 12:01 AM
kool im gona get 1 when i do my clutch and gearb service:)
so it revs alot easier and quiker?? wikid

xtercii
01-07-2005, 09:52 AM
Wouldn’t the rev be dropping a lot quicker as well? Has anyone got any feed backs on that?

MR-VTEC
01-07-2005, 09:59 AM
yeah, it wont hold speed as well as the original flywheel when you jump of the accelerator due to the decrease in rotaional mass keeping the momentum, it is noticable but not too much, but for the improved acceleration and response in my opinion it's worth while.

ekslut
01-07-2005, 10:33 AM
I've had a Toda flywheel as well, and I think its one of the best mods you can do. Revs so much easier and quicker.

It does drop revs quicker as well, but I like this. After driving with a lightened flywheel and then going back to a normal one, it sh*ts me how the revs just stay there when I put my foot on the clutch.

xtercii
01-07-2005, 10:44 AM
Sorry to ask this, but why would you like the revs to be dropping out fast?
By the way I think power shifting would fix this rev dropping fast issue, right?

bubblecivic
01-07-2005, 11:52 AM
The advantages of having a lighten flywheel allows you to rev quicker, so ofcourse, if it revs higher quicker, it will also drop quicker aswell.

ekslut
01-07-2005, 11:54 AM
dunno, just got used to driving with the lightened flywheel. Coz now whenever I put my foot on the clutch the revs just hang there for a second, makes me think I f**ked up my shift. I dont take ages to shift anyways, so even with a lightened flywheel the revs dont drop much.

What do you mean by 'power shifting'?

xtercii
01-07-2005, 12:06 PM
what i meant by power shifting is changing gear with barely lifting off the throttle.

SPEEDCORE
01-07-2005, 12:07 PM
What do you mean by 'power shifting'?

I think he means flatshifting, which is what I call shifting without taking foot off accel.

BTW mate... Toda FW I got off ya is getting put on today with new Excedy Race clutch (pink box) and a Quaife ATB, I'll let ya know how it goes :thumbsup:

ekslut
01-07-2005, 12:14 PM
I think he means flatshifting, which is what I call shifting without taking foot off accel.

BTW mate... Toda FW I got off ya is getting put on today with new Excedy Race clutch (pink box) and a Quaife ATB, I'll let ya know how it goes :thumbsup:

hmmm...doesn't sound good for the clutch

Hope you enjoy the flywheel, and thats a nice setup there. I am getting all my stuff put in my new car right now as well. ACT flywheel, Exedy 3 puck clutch & KAAZ LSD. Let me know how it all goes :thumbsup: .

SKREMN
01-07-2005, 02:48 PM
by getting a lighter flywheel dont you loose torque?

SPEEDCORE
01-07-2005, 03:00 PM
by getting a lighter flywheel dont you loose torque?

Heh here we go again.... I knew it would come up again. :p

Dude, you don't lose torque, in fact you don't lose anything, hp or torque.
You also don't gain anything other than being able to get into the "good power" rpm ranges a little quicker.

What is percieved as "loss" of torque is that there is obviously less mass to store kinetic energy. This mainly manifests itself in such things like drag racing where getting off the line may be a bit more difficult due to when you hook it up, it can have the tendancy to bog down due to having less stored kinetic energy.

Hope that makes sense.

NTR16N
01-07-2005, 03:19 PM
Heh here we go again.... I knew it would come up again. :p

Dude, you don't lose torque, in fact you don't lose anything, hp or torque.
You also don't gain anything other than being able to get into the "good power" rpm ranges a little quicker.

What is percieved as "loss" of torque is that there is obviously less mass to store kinetic energy. This mainly manifests itself in such things like drag racing where getting off the line may be a bit more difficult due to when you hook it up, it can have the tendancy to bog down due to having less stored kinetic energy.

Hope that makes sense.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: makes sense to me..

bennjamin
01-07-2005, 03:29 PM
yup - in simple terms - a flywheel is just a energy storage device.

You could compare it to a spring - say a spring is X thickness and height - if the thickness is reduced (weight reduced) then it will store energy quicker (revs raise) , and also expell energy quicker (revs drop).

Ive got a TODA flywheel sitting here and a HD clutch - even tho my car is technically totally stock i cant wait to install it :)

kousoku
01-07-2005, 04:20 PM
yea i just installed a light weight fly wheel (exedy) and i have only today tryed it out becuase of the wet, but damn boy!!!!! i was scared, was on that free way that goes onto the bridge, droppped it down into second and WOT, and yea just accerlarated like nothing i had ever felt!!!!!! crazy,
first gear is also really good, i recommend getting one.!!!!!! really good mod.! you will feel the differnce.
cheap power to price ratio too!! =D

sharky
01-07-2005, 04:43 PM
mines sweet, a lot more responsive for a DC4 :D

wynode
01-07-2005, 05:21 PM
I think he means flatshifting, which is what I call shifting without taking foot off accel.


Isn't that a full throttle shift?

To account for the flywheel dropping RPM too much......just keep your foot slightly on the throttle.

Spunkymonkey
02-07-2005, 01:18 AM
Yes, I also noticed the same. It feels like the revs respond a bit quicker. I did notice the difference when I took the car to wakefield a couple of years ago just after I had it put in, had to brake before a couple of corners, that normally I wouldn't. I mean, I was getting to the corner quicker, because revs responding quicker.

locote
02-07-2005, 11:54 AM
so down the 1/4 mile youd be dropping a few tenths with the lightfly as opesed to stok???

kousoku
03-07-2005, 06:06 PM
yea, you would have a faster time, i reckon the 60ft would be the biggest difference. =D
might loose 1/4 second.

GSI-PSI
03-07-2005, 07:14 PM
ok how much did u guys pay for ya lightened flywheel for a dc4? Got mu button clutch sittin at home and contemplating purchasing one of these

r`Geno
03-07-2005, 07:23 PM
Search is your friend - http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13667&highlight=toda+flywheel

lerroy
03-07-2005, 07:25 PM
Toda flywheel and Exedy organic clutch
installed and bearing replaced etc...

done by RUF performance $1500

well worth it, car cranks !!! hondas really benifit casue the quicker you get it into higher revs the better :P

GSI-PSI
03-07-2005, 07:41 PM
erm i asked the price of flywheel, not clutch combo

locote
03-07-2005, 07:49 PM
im just gona geta custon hd organic clutch 600 buks installed, and redline gear oil in box 4kg fly, should be bout a grand all up

sharky
03-07-2005, 10:38 PM
GSI-PSI, i cant remember exactly but i think i paid about $500 for my 4kg chromoly fly

kousoku
03-07-2005, 11:55 PM
if u want exedy you can get it cheap on ebay (not meaning to take business away from adrian) exedy aint as good as toda though :D

looking at 500inc postage for lwfw and hd clutch.

luzinit
04-07-2005, 12:32 AM
can u gimme a link or name of the shop u bought it from on ebay kousoku?

LSD Motorsports
04-07-2005, 03:00 AM
wat is the standard weight on a stok fly??
Stock Flywheel weighs about 18lbs, or 8.3kg. It is definately a worth while modification and the negative effects can really be neglected. I dont recommend the lightened flywheel on a turbo application, however for all motor it really does help the car move through the power band significantly quicker.

SKREMN
09-07-2005, 02:01 PM
Ive just purchased my exedy heavy duty button clutch to go with my new LSD box thats going in next week I'm getting the flywheel currently lightend but what does lightening and/or machining the pressure plate do? because thats also over there getting somehting done to it?