JR supercharger kit.

[locote]

any one out there had any experience with these kits and what they are capable of?? or heard of any 1 with one and wat results they got??

(jackson Racing)

[bennjamin]

*moved to forced induction*

[alan]

have u looked on the jackson racing website?

[locote]

they claim 160fwhp on stok motor and internals but i wanna know if any one has apllied this kit to a modified engine.??

[alan]

i got 1 but its not applied

[locote]

sorry applied???

[Weq]

JRSC's are limited by not being easily I/C'd. Limits boost to around 8psi max, and even that is pushing the intake temps quite high. PSI vs PSI, turbo comes out ontop. Also the parasitic loss on a torqueless 4cyl makes supercharging not that attractive.

[locote]

so if you intercool the supercharger youd gain power but you cant wth a JR, is 200 fwhp posible with supercharger??
will it work with upgraded cams??

[BlitZ]

so if i buy the jr supercahrger... hondata tuned
i could run 6psi daily without any issues?

Would it be a much easier/cleaner installtion with less maintenance?

noting not as powereful as turbo..

[Fattony]

If you wanted 200fwhp from a supercharged setup i think you should steer away from the positive displacement style JR supercharger as it genreally is not efficient in high rpm boost envirments, but you should look into a vortech kit supplied by capa for the honda where you can add a water to air IC and being a centrifical style charger would yeild you much more top end and boost friendly efficiency, however due to the nature that the centrifical charger having to build up boost would mean that you would not have the power on tap at an instant moment and esp in low rpm that the positive JR kit would have.

[SINISTR]

You can change the pulley on the supercharger tho to increase the boost tho - can't you?

[Weq]

yes but unless the charger is efficent it wont do any good. the vortech kits are good, but they imitate turbos for double the cost.

[SINISTR]

Cos i have a HKS supercharger lined up for a Gen1 crx with a ZC and I know i can boost it up with just a change of the pulley... thought JRS were thesame.

[PhatSol]

Of course you can speed the supercharger up by changin the pulley, but all blowers have a rev limit. For example, the Eaton M62 in the JRSC kits is 14000rpm IIRC. Push it too far and it will just overheat and destroy itself.

[nedgeworth]

Cos i have a HKS supercharger lined up for a Gen1 crx with a ZC and I know i can boost it up with just a change of the pulley... thought JRS were thesame.

tell me how you go mate as i've been lookin down the same track :)

As far as i'm aware the JRSC are the same.

[BiGANG]

Although the vortech emulates a turbo, the power curve would still be more linear than a turbo wouldnt it? Im thinking this would be a good ( but hella expensive ) alternative to turbo. Although turbo would be real nice. i just think that maybe the supercharger would be more useful on the street, like the power on tap instead of laggn and then massive surge.

Does it really cost twice as much as a turbo though?

[strafe]

4HC218-010SQ99-00 Civic Si w/V-5 SQ G-Trim, Satin$5,216.00
4HC218-018SQ99-00 Civic Si w/V-5 SQ G-Trim, Polished$5,532.00
4HC218-020SQ99-00 Civic Si w/V-5 SQ G-Trim & Cooler, Satin$7,141.00
4HC218-028SQ99-00 Civic Si w/V-5 SQ G-Trim & Cooler, Polish$7,455.00

Considering these kits include fuel system and piggy back ecu, i think they are pretty good value for money. Jackson Racing kits are good for low down power and torque, but lack power at the top end of the rev range (where you really want to use it).

Next time you take your car for a thrash, see how often it dips under 4000rpm. Vortech is definately the go.

I'd consider a turbo kit providing i could get a manifold that retains my air conditioning (yeah, i'm soft :P).

On a side note, Jackson Racing Kits up the boost by using a larger crank pulley. Water injection can be implemented to provide some form of intercooling, but to also provide a better seal between the rotors and the housing.

[saxman]

Although the vortech emulates a turbo, the power curve would still be more linear than a turbo wouldnt it? Im thinking this would be a good ( but hella expensive ) alternative to turbo. Although turbo would be real nice. i just think that maybe the supercharger would be more useful on the street, like the power on tap instead of laggn and then massive surge.

Does it really cost twice as much as a turbo though?

if by good alternative you mean makes a whole hell of a lot less power for the money, then yes it is!

[locote]

how many vortech boosted hondas have ppl had experience with to make these judgements???
i havent seen or heard of any, the size of a vortech compared to a turbo is significant, i think a good setup with vortech would give good results.

[DaPlaya]

have a look at this guys car from itrca, from what i remember reading its stock except for intake and cam gear i THINK. He's running a JRSC at 5.5psi and pulling 13.8 or so he claims;

http://www.itrca.com/gallery/2000R/index.php

[locote]

any vortech hondas online??

[BLKCRX]

so if i buy the jr supercahrger... hondata tuned
i could run 6psi daily without any issues?

Would it be a much easier/cleaner installtion with less maintenance?

noting not as powereful as turbo..

For sure, im flying to QLD on Thursday and installing a Jackson racing supercharger on a DC5r ;) the results im sure are going to create much more interest with superchargers. Superchargers are much better than people give them credit for !! hmm 200kw+ DC5r ;) that’s what I’m hoping for.



Regards James

[locote]

BLKCRX, done any VOTECH's??

[strafe]

To my knowledge, CAPA hasn't sold any Vortech Civic Kits in Australia. Only S2000 and 350Z Kits. There have been a few Jackson Racing Kits sold over the years.

If i ever put a Vortech kit on my EK4, I'll make sure i post something in the forums ;)

Here's an example of a Jackson Racing Kit:

http://www.marksworkshop.com.au/Pages/custom/hondaBOD.htm
http://www.marksworkshop.com.au/Pages/custom/hondaeng.htm
http://www.marksworkshop.com.au/Pages/custom/HONDAP.htm

Approx 35% gain in power.

[locote]

113hp, 1.6lt single cam, not bad whats the weight on these civics??
its vtec too isnt it??

[saxman]

how many vortech boosted hondas have ppl had experience with to make these judgements???
i havent seen or heard of any, the size of a vortech compared to a turbo is significant, i think a good setup with vortech would give good results.
I know people with both vortech and jrsc boosted hondas... I'm making judgements out of real life experience

to make a direct comparison, I did a turbo set up for a guy on a jdm del sol SiR. the guy with the vortech (s/c and cooler) also has a sol SiR. The turbo, for 1/3rd the cost, made 30 more hp, and 40 more ft lbs... at lower boost.

[locote]

thanks thats what i wanted to hear, as theres not many boosted examples here in aus,
any running nitrous saxman???

[saxman]

have one friend that was turboed and ran nitrous. know one guy that ran just nitrous... no one with an s/c and nitrous though

[locote]

wat power was the guy with just nitrous getting??

[saxman]

was running just nitrous on a d16z6 sol... was keeping up with b16's afterwords... so maybe 40hp... don't know what size shot he was running, haven't spoken to him a while