View Full Version : any b16's running 13's?
EGB16A
04-07-2005, 01:16 PM
hey guys, just wanting to know if anyone is running in the 13second bracket using a b16a (prefferably eg hatch's)? I'd like to run a low 13 on good street tyres, and i'm wondering what mods i would need to get there? I know i can reach 13's with minimal effort if i turbo my car, but i wanted to explore the NA road first.
I know its not easy, but if anyone could point me in the right direction, i would be very greatful. I'm estimating 140wkw would get my close?
cheers
Low 13's with street tyres - allmotor b16a on EG hatch chasis required alot of mods.
Our EG hatch with stock jdm k20a ran 12.886 down the quater mile on street tyres. it max out at 12.378@109mph with 22x8x15 m/t slicks , twm quads and other bolt on mods.
Limbo
04-07-2005, 01:31 PM
I know of one CRX with b16 head but b20 bottom end to give the 2.0 displacement.
Is running high 12s can't rem the exact time though. I believe he is selling the engine and getting a larger displacement block!
Pulling 13s your looking at quiet alot of work with a 16a, unless you go turbo or get a larger displacement to make up the torque.
There is that article of the 10k rpm b16a but that had alot $$$ put into it.
Turbo would be the cheapest solution to it.
[[d a n n y]]
04-07-2005, 01:52 PM
N/a form and Turbo form they are both acheiveable
but N/A cost TOO much $$$$
and turbo would cost atleast half the amount
EGB16A
04-07-2005, 02:31 PM
even mid to high 13's?
G AE82
05-07-2005, 08:50 AM
We're running 13.4's with a b16a in an 85 model civic. The B16a has I/E and microtech, and the car weighed around 700kg to get those times on drag radials. Quite a bit of work would need to be done to the engine to get 13's in an EG. I would suggest making a b20 frank engine, instead of working the b16a. More torque :thumbsup:
SINISTR
05-07-2005, 10:38 AM
]']N/a form and Turbo form they are both acheiveable
but N/A cost TOO much $$$$
and turbo would cost atleast half the amount
but think of the Street Credit in a 13sec NA 1.6... :)
I think lumpy Cams would give away what lurks under the hood tho :P
z3lda
05-07-2005, 10:45 AM
but think of the Street Credit in a 13sec NA 1.6... :)
I think lumpy Cams would give away what lurks under the hood tho :P
not if u have big sufbooffer hehhe
Rufes1
19-07-2005, 01:51 PM
not if u have big sufbooffer hehhe
lolol
120kwatw will get u in 13's. But to get 120 out of a b16a requires work. If you want a 13 sec car cheapest way to get there would be to grab a turbo kit from the US and bolt it on. Easy and cheap.
panda[cRx]
19-07-2005, 01:56 PM
Easy and cheap.
most kits are cheap and nasty, you wouldnt want them on your car:rolleyes:
get an AVO turbo kit...cant go wrong there!!
hoonda
19-07-2005, 03:10 PM
how about N2O? technically classed as forced induction, but to unenlightened it does not seem like a 'turbo' car- plus its easy to put in/out if insurance company gets suspicious..
type one
19-07-2005, 03:52 PM
a b16 which is no longer a b16 would run 13s.
felixR
19-07-2005, 04:32 PM
paul, have ever run ur car down the quarter before?
b16a.. n/a.. LOW 13's.. expecting a lot there
typicalmale
19-07-2005, 05:18 PM
id be suprised to get a b16a to cut 13's without emptying your wallet a few times.. hahaha good luck with that. lol
Waggy
19-07-2005, 06:51 PM
Low 13's is probably possible in N/A form, but it probably wouldn't be street drivable or registerable.
Rufes1
20-07-2005, 11:12 AM
']most kits are cheap and nasty, you wouldnt want them on your car:rolleyes:
The greddy kit is actually quite good. Weq ran that on his car at 11psi for a long time and it was brilliant, providing a 13sec reliable car for ~$3000! Altho this was a d series kit.
Find better value than that
Steer^Gimic
20-07-2005, 01:57 PM
why is everybody on this forum so worried about 400m times?
this is a genuine question, so a genuine answer would be nice
ginganggooly
20-07-2005, 02:02 PM
why is everybody on this forum so worried about 400m times?
this is a genuine question, so a genuine answer would be nice
because this is not the pedestrian council of australia.
seriously, it's pretty good indicator of straight line performance of a given vehicle.
EGB16A
20-07-2005, 02:27 PM
because this is not the pedestrian council of australia.
seriously, it's pretty good indicator of straight line performance of a given vehicle.
LOL..... exactly right. Its a very good indicator, and alot of people on here set themselves a goal to reach usually on the quarter mile (some aspire to quick lap times of wakefield etc etc). I could have asked what 0-100km/h times people were getting, but i doubt i'd have any replys, and if i did, they might not necessarily be acuarate...
paul, have ever run ur car down the quarter before?
b16a.. n/a.. LOW 13's.. expecting a lot there
He is not Paul dude.
Paul ( egb16a ) prove some mid 14's down the 1/4 mile.
pgclee
20-07-2005, 02:52 PM
there is b16 going low 13's...Full JUN component..so, take out your calculator and start tapping...
**Ghost**
20-07-2005, 03:20 PM
hey seriously would a bottle of nos be enough to run 13s? i remember ages ago i read an article on autospeed.com or woteva that a SSS pulsar, the newer N15 model ran a flat 13 with i/h/e autotronic and nos thats it
panda[cRx]
20-07-2005, 03:41 PM
because this is not the pedestrian council of australia.
seriously, it's pretty good indicator of straight line performance of a given vehicle.
i think that was his point dude. i think he's more concerned with all-round performance (ie track) and not what he can run on the strip. i'm kinda inclined to agree with him as honda's weren't exactly designed to be quarter mile kings
ginganggooly
20-07-2005, 04:19 PM
']i think that was his point dude. i think he's more concerned with all-round performance (ie track) and not what he can run on the strip. i'm kinda inclined to agree with him as honda's weren't exactly designed to be quarter mile kings
i agree with you, they are far from being the best platform for drag racing. by the same token, they're far from the best platform for circuit racing.
we still drive 'em though, so we might as well make do with what we have and leave it at that.
panda[cRx]
20-07-2005, 04:29 PM
i agree with you, they are far from being the best platform for drag racing. by the same token, they're far from the best platform for circuit racing.
we still drive 'em though, so we might as well make do with what we have and leave it at that.
sad but true lol
00' coupe
20-07-2005, 05:35 PM
sorry to hijack but i dnt think nebody answerd dis... wat will a b16a with NOS (not on d street) run??? QTR mile
i saw d SSS pulsar example but can ne1 confirm this???
pgclee
20-07-2005, 06:12 PM
Just with a NOS + ECU is still not enough to do that...need a lil more things than that...cam gear, fuel reg, gasket, bigger tb, port intake, ex...may b u can do it with this...gd luck...
Steer^Gimic
20-07-2005, 06:35 PM
i agree with you, they are far from being the best platform for drag racing. by the same token, they're far from the best platform for circuit racing.
we still drive 'em though, so we might as well make do with what we have and leave it at that.
i guess it just comes down to the age old arugument of what one prefers. personally, iv never been a fan of drag racing. i would much rather propel a car through a turn then through a set of flashing lights followed by nothing but a straight line..
but wouldnt you want to test and tune your car on an overall basis rather then just speed, acceleration? just doesnt make sense to me..
**Ghost**
20-07-2005, 06:52 PM
so a b16a + i/h/e + nos + Ecu wouldnt pull a 13?
A fuel pressure regulator is pretty mcuh a must isnt it when it comes to nos? or bigger injectors....
some1 metnioned 120kw b16a = 13s.,.. my civic currently pulls exactly 100kw... if i get a...i dunno.... 45hp nos kit wouldnt that make it pull a 13? if so thats quite good value for money isnt it... nos kits are relatively cheap compared to turbo/na tuning
(not that i am going to do this btw)
felixR
21-07-2005, 03:25 AM
He is not Paul dude.
Paul ( egb16a ) prove some mid 14's down the 1/4 mile.
thanx for clearing that up for me yonas.
ginganggooly
21-07-2005, 03:21 PM
i guess it just comes down to the age old arugument of what one prefers. personally, iv never been a fan of drag racing. i would much rather propel a car through a turn then through a set of flashing lights followed by nothing but a straight line..
but wouldnt you want to test and tune your car on an overall basis rather then just speed, acceleration? just doesnt make sense to me..
mate, you're talking to a person that used to make late night national park runs 3-4 nights per week, believe me i love twisty road action.
however- it's horses for courses, i was never a fan of drag racing until i actually had a couple of goes and got the bug. now i love it, even if my car is an uncompetitive, old pos.
fwiw, i love tracking the car and seeing what she'll do. but i'm not made of money, so that just isn't going to happen on a regular basis. a wednesday night at the strip represents a much smaller investment, in terms of both the fees and the wear and tear on the car. as i said, you make do with what you have.
00' coupe
21-07-2005, 06:00 PM
so a b16a + i/h/e + nos + Ecu wouldnt pull a 13?
A fuel pressure regulator is pretty mcuh a must isnt it when it comes to nos? or bigger injectors....
some1 metnioned 120kw b16a = 13s.,.. my civic currently pulls exactly 100kw... if i get a...i dunno.... 45hp nos kit wouldnt that make it pull a 13? if so thats quite good value for money isnt it... nos kits are relatively cheap compared to turbo/na tuning
(not that i am going to do this btw)
can some confirm dis plz???
wat will it pull if u had minimal mods: say I/H/E and a NOS kit... (b16a)
is it possible to NOS wit such small mods without threat of blowin engine??
00' coupe
21-07-2005, 06:04 PM
EDIT:
wat r the minimal mods needed to run a NOS kit??
sorry guys i think dats better wording
sifoo
26-07-2005, 11:44 AM
hi there,
massive weight savings is a start - but a motor that can break 100mph is a must i would say. its been done it the states but not very streetable - 14s would be more in your range
by the way would you be the white eg hatch with plates egb16a with spoon exhaust?
Built by BEL?
:D
Well friend just ran 13.6 @ creek with b16a Turbo in Eg.
And thats with street tyres and full audio system.
Turbo is much easier to get quicker times than NA.
NA wise Itll cost heaps to get in 13 bracket.
hi there,
massive weight savings is a start - but a motor that can break 100mph is a must i would say. its been done it the states but not very streetable - 14s would be more in your range
by the way would you be the white eg hatch with plates egb16a with spoon exhaust?
Built by BEL?
:D
Whoever this guy with EGB16A nick is not paul from bel.
Paul with his white EG ( plate no egb16a) ran mid 14's on street tyres.
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