10 - 14k for 250 to 300kw atw???

[Mst_Mugen]

heyz..... i was at my local engine convertors garage today... and he said that he can bring my 99 civic up to 250 to 300kw atw for bout 10-14k..... it would involve a engine conversion of the b16a to the 2.2L prelude v-tec engine and changing all the other necesseties as well (eg. new brake pads, fuel pump and all that shit) then the next stage would involve bolting on a turbo charger, and changin the other necesseties that must be done when addin a turbo charger. i thought alot more $$$ would b needed to bring my the civic up to 250kw atw..... any comments or words of advice??? thankz

[SIKCVC]

I would have thought a lot more too. No doubt the power could be achived but from my understanding theres a lot of people on this forum who pour money into their cars and dont achive that much power... they own VERY quick and stable cars, but not that powerful. I'm sure the experts on the topic will post soon.

[MR-VTEC]

why wouldn't your mechanic just keep the b16a and build that up and turbo it?? imo it would be alot more cost effective. also considering there is alot more aftermarket support for the b-series engines

[Mst_Mugen]

why wouldn't your mechanic just keep the b16a and build that up and turbo it?? imo it would be alot more cost effective. also considering there is alot more aftermarket support for the b-series engines
converting the engine to a 2.2 prelude v-tec engine would obviously get more kws out of the car.... problem is.... do that conversion as well as addin a turbo charger will make the front of car as heavy as a mofo....

[Mst_Mugen]

o yeah... forgot to add... a dyno run and tuning is included in that price...

[Usual Suspect]

id find out a lot more of what he really wants or is saying he will do, details details details.

Seems rahter on the lean side for a that kind of gain.

[type one]

H22A in what chassis? EM1 coupe? with what T/C and what ecu to get 250 - 300kw atw?

i am interested to know how much room this mechanic thinks he has in a civic chassis to place a T/C in with the H22A... or what sort of retro fitting he is going to do.

re your last comment - a lot more $$$ will be necessary, IMO his quote is a rough ballpark.

Engine - 5,500 (add cost of custom mounts 600-1000)
TC Kit - 5,000+
Brakes - 1,000
Labour - 1,500 - 2,000
Ecu + Tune - 2,000+
Suspension - 1,500 - 2,000
Miscellaneous - 2,000 (This is a conservative estimate)

If you do it and get it on the road/track/strip it will be a weapon - power to weight alone will be awesome. BUT, be prepared to have your civic off the road for a couple of months.

[Mst_Mugen]

H22A in what chassis? EM1 coupe? with what T/C and what ecu to get 250 - 300kw atw?

i am interested to know how much room this mechanic thinks he has in a civic chassis to place a T/C in with the H22A... or what sort of retro fitting he is going to do.

re your last comment - a lot more $$$ will be necessary, IMO his quote is a rough ballpark.

Engine - 5,500 (add cost of custom mounts 600-1000)
TC Kit - 5,000+
Brakes - 1,000
Labour - 1,500 - 2,000
Ecu + Tune - 2,000+
Suspension - 1,500 - 2,000
Miscellaneous - 2,000 (This is a conservative estimate)

If you do it and get it on the road/track/strip it will be a weapon - power to weight alone will be awesome. BUT, be prepared to have your civic off the road for a couple of months.
no doubt that was a ballpark figure.... im terms of space under the bonnet, he mention a hks kit, as well as obviously makin new custom manifolds.... he was sayin that this conversion might b difficult in a EM1, but wont b that much of a problems with a early civic model, like before 94.....

[barefootbonzai]

Seriously, i don't think 14k would cover the cost. If your mechanic can do it for 14k go for it. type_one's cost breakdown seems about right to me.

[type one]

HKS turbo kit... there are many such kits... for a 2.2 litre engine probably that which is similar to the turbo in the 200... except most likely a roller bearing GT25 or GT28.

Still very light on the details... if you are serious get him to get you a breakdown of the costs... and make sure u get it cross-checked by another expert to make sure he ain't skimping you on parts he "thinks" you won't need.

[jimmeh]

mrjdm asked online performance for a quote for a high compression b18c motor swap and they said itll cost 13k

[BlitZ]

im no turbo expert,..... but after doing all the following i would still doubt very much u would have 250 to 300kw atw....
correct me if im wrong..

thats thats all your budget would cover... are u even getting internals?


H22A in what chassis? EM1 coupe? with what T/C and what ecu to get 250 - 300kw atw?

i am interested to know how much room this mechanic thinks he has in a civic chassis to place a T/C in with the H22A... or what sort of retro fitting he is going to do.

re your last comment - a lot more $$$ will be necessary, IMO his quote is a rough ballpark.

Engine - 5,500 (add cost of custom mounts 600-1000)
TC Kit - 5,000+
Brakes - 1,000
Labour - 1,500 - 2,000
Ecu + Tune - 2,000+
Suspension - 1,500 - 2,000
Miscellaneous - 2,000 (This is a conservative estimate)

If you do it and get it on the road/track/strip it will be a weapon - power to weight alone will be awesome. BUT, be prepared to have your civic off the road for a couple of months.

[Steer^Gimic]

ffs get some real figures and actual written quotes from a workshop.
having a 'ballpark figure' is an absolutely USELESS figure when it comes to modifying a car, especially to this extent.

and are you really going to utilise 300kw of forced induction out of two front wheels? if your intention is to 'track' it, then your 'ballpark' figure will increase considerably!

[Mst_Mugen]

HKS turbo kit... there are many such kits... for a 2.2 litre engine probably that which is similar to the turbo in the 200... except most likely a roller bearing GT25 or GT28.

Still very light on the details... if you are serious get him to get you a breakdown of the costs... and make sure u get it cross-checked by another expert to make sure he ain't skimping you on parts he "thinks" you won't need.
yeah... ill ask him for a breakdown... the ****er is a real prick though... no offence to anyone, but he was juz a rude mthfckr **sorriz bout the swearing, needed to emphasise** i think for 10 -14k, 180 to 220kw atw is definitely achievable with juz the 2.2 v-tec along with all other necessities

[anna1984]

for u to get 250kw atw u'll b lookin at over 30k

wot internals r u gona get to ur engine to achieve 250kw atw neways, stock?

[EGB16A]

for u to get 250kw atw u'll b lookin at over 30k

wot internals r u gona get to ur engine to achieve 250kw atw neways, stock?

$30k.... i don't think so.

[JEZ83L]

New break pads included in that price... BIGGER BREAKS, you wanna be able to stop the car with that much power...

With all the emphasis on GO it's easy to forget the WHOA! I'd be making sure they include that in the price for that much money/power.

[EGB16A]

$14k is a bit cheap, $20k is a bit more realistic. What about a nice custom turbo setup on your b16?

[WPN.22R]

250kw atw ... no probs...got traction? is a different question. you can run that kinda power from a boosted h22a no probs. ive got 150kw atw just running my engine in with my old turbo at 10psi -computer LT8-custom manifold, and 2-1/4 exhaust...getting power isnt the problem, puttin it down will be, and if im right that kind of engine set up will throw your car waaay off balance and give you steering probs.. so then go spend $$$ on suspension.

$$$ wise you should be paying around (up to) 15k for the whole conversion.

[anna1984]

$30k.... i don't think so.

then how much u think so?

arent u gona add in brakes, clutch, gearbox, lsd??

thats already 10-20k +

[anna1984]

dont u guys take in consideration of labour charges and so on, not just the engine itself

[Mst_Mugen]

$14k is a bit cheap, $20k is a bit more realistic. What about a nice custom turbo setup on your b16?
ill planin to go back to that person next week on my day off n ask him for a more accurate breakdown of the costs for the job... but in terms of the engine, i might consider goin complete NA, n juz try to get the fastest NA car in brisbane (juz a thought though)...

[WPN.22R]

hey if anyone knows about boostin a h22a its me right? i did it when everyone was saying not to, and with standard internals!

[anna1984]

hey if anyone knows about boostin a h22a its me right? i did it when everyone was saying not to, and with standard internals!

i bet u ur running under 8psi

[EGB16A]

ill planin to go back to that person next week on my day off n ask him for a more accurate breakdown of the costs for the job... but in terms of the engine, i might consider goin complete NA, n juz try to get the fastest NA car in brisbane (juz a thought though)...


You'll spend $14k to get there, and not be as fast as a turbo h22a... Bang for buck, turbo is the way.

[WPN.22R]

15psi all day everyday!

[EGB16A]

dont u guys take in consideration of labour charges and so on, not just the engine itself

yep, and it don't cost $30k

[Mst_Mugen]

btw... does anyone know the fastest NA car is brisbane??? and what type of engine it is???

[anna1984]

15psi all day everyday!

yeh my badd, didnt notice u had vtec

[anna1984]

yep, and it don't cost $30k

break it down and estimate how much everything will cost??
includin labour & dyno tuning..

[WPN.22R]

well i have mates in the biz so it cost me all up about 12k for my standard internals set up.

[Mst_Mugen]

hey if anyone knows about boostin a h22a its me right? i did it when everyone was saying not to, and with standard internals!
did u boost the h22a in ur current car or is it a previous car?? what car was it?? and how much did u end up gettin the car too pull atw???

[anna1984]

well i have mates in the biz so it cost me all up about 12k for my standard internals set up.

yeh but your not going into details in what u running in your car..
for eg. intercooler, uprated clutch, larger injectors and so on..

[WPN.22R]

ok here we go...on standard internals

front mount i-c
microtech LT8
custom dump pipe and manifold
hi flowed CT26 turbo (bigger than T04)
standard injectors and fuel pump
(i was due for a) heavy duty clutch
greddy profecB boost controller
hmm i think that was it

without passing 5000rpm (vtec) on 10psi i was hitting 148kw atw with a basic (run in) tune

but will be back soon with complete SKUNK2 RACING h22 engine on boost:D
all was done on current car.

(and yes the above set up is for sale!)

[anna1984]

ok here we go...on standard internals

front mount i-c
microtech LT8
custom dump pipe and manifold
hi flowed CT26 turbo (bigger than T04)
standard injectors and fuel pump
(i was due for a) heavy duty clutch
greddy profecB boost controller
hmm i think that was it

without passing 5000rpm (vtec) on 10psi i was hitting 148kw atw with a basic (run in) tune

but will be back soon with complete SKUNK2 RACING h22 engine on boost:D
all was done on current car.

(and yes the above set up is for sale!)

did u say u were running 15psi??
wots this not passing 5000rpm on a dyno tune..

[WPN.22R]

i was just making an example of power that i got from barely any effort from the h22a

and yes 15psi

[anna1984]

i was just making an example of power that i got from barely any effort from the h22a

and yes 15psi

but who talks like that?? "oh im just barely reaching 5000rpms 10psi & making 148kw atw" lol

im going to bed. we'l continue 2moro peepz..

[Mst_Mugen]

but who talks like that?? "oh im just barely reaching 5000rpms 10psi & making 148kw atw" lol

im going to bed. we'l continue 2moro peepz..
i agree with you anna... hmm, is that ur real name??? anwayz... shall b back 2nite... have work now...

[SiR JDM]

why wouldn't your mechanic just keep the b16a and build that up and turbo it?? imo it would be alot more cost effective. also considering there is alot more aftermarket support for the b-series engines

i agree with MR-VTEC

there are many t/c b16/18 setups that run in excess of 200kw atw

[CRX-Ando]

i agree with MR-VTEC
there are many t/c b16/18 setups that run in excess of 200kw atw
I concur here as well...aftermarket support is aplenty with the B-series & if common sense dictates then this is the path you'll be heading down...unless of course you have a limitless budget & you're not bound by financial constraints...also ask yourself what your goals are with all this power...ascertain this, consult yourself & your car & then budget more than you have to for the conversion, almost always budget for more than you have to as "hidden & unsuspecting" costs may come forth...do it right first time all the time & NEVER cut corners in order to satisfy your boost cravings...the strength of the engine is paramount...don't build the turbo around the engine...build the engine around the turbo...

[anna1984]

i agree with you anna... hmm, is that ur real name??? anwayz... shall b back 2nite... have work now...

yups im anna banana!! haha

i still dont think 10-14k will get u 250 - 300kw atw..

[tRipitaka]

You'll spend $14k to get there, and not be as fast as a turbo h22a... Bang for buck, turbo is the way.

14 grand for a h22a conversion + turbo ?
hmmm.. sounds tempting..

[EGB16A]

14 grand for a h22a conversion + turbo ?
hmmm.. sounds tempting..

not quite.... read the rest of the thread

[[[d a n n y]]]

it's VTEC not V-tec farkn hell

[BlitZ]

wow.... running 15psi daily....
that its pretty good..
im quiet amazed at how the std internals are holding up...
people normally recommend about 5-8psi on std honda internals..

Well tuned dude ;)

[type one]

Don't underestimate a HONDA engine... its like a volvo mang... it will just go and go and go...

[EGB16A]

Don't underestimate a HONDA engine... its like a volvo mang... it will just go and go and go...

oh so true!!

[BLKek]

wow.... running 15psi daily....
that its pretty good..
im quiet amazed at how the std internals are holding up...
people normally recommend about 5-8psi on std honda internals..

Well tuned dude ;)

I've seen a few Hyundai dailies driven on 14psi, its all in tune, MAJOR factor.

[e240]

[QUOTE=type one]
Brakes - 1,000
[\QUOTE]


Brakes should never cost you up to 1K especially if you're going to be using Prelude brake. I would think roughly $500...or less even.

I bought a brand new set of Wilwood 4 Pot complete brake kit for just slightly over 1K.

[e240]

but he was juz a rude mthfckr **

LOL..its not C.....N Autosports is it?
When looking to work my car, I went there and the idiot mus have thought I was some kind of idiot. He quoted me $9K to turbo charge my D16Y engine.
He claimed the engine was still alright without even checking it. Never had good experiences at that place, the guy's more of a crook than anything else.

[mini_s2000]

why dont you just sell your car and buy a GTR 33 instead...

[EGB16A]

why dont you just sell your car and buy a GTR 33 instead...

cause if everyone drove a skyline, the world would be a boring place!! :D :honda:

[Mst_Mugen]

why dont you just sell your car and buy a GTR 33 instead...
WTF!!?? GTR 33... HELL NAH!!! id rather walk.... MUGEN POWER all the way!!

[Mst_Mugen]

LOL..its not C.....N Autosports is it?
When looking to work my car, I went there and the idiot mus have thought I was some kind of idiot. He quoted me $9K to turbo charge my D16Y engine.
He claimed the engine was still alright without even checking it. Never had good experiences at that place, the guy's more of a crook than anything else.
nah..... this guy's place is called xtreme i think..... yeah.... BUT, in terms off half cut... i think i might go ask him more bout the 2.2L vtec... cuz i wouldnt mind 200kw atw..... im not too sure if 99 coupe can support that though cuz i think he said something along the lines of this can only b done to a model before 94.

[Maxx]

i have no idea about honda
but a 2L/2.2L to pull 250-300kw@wheel
u will need:
HKS GT3037 turbo kit (turbo, external gate, custom exhaust manifold) - 6k?
hybird bar & plate intercooler + piping - 1k?
custom turboback exhuast - <1.5k
740cc injector, custom fuel rail - 1.5k?
borch fuel pump - $300
twin plate clutch - 2k
ECU + tune - 2k+
labour - 2-3k

maybe bigger inlet manifold + throttle body - 1k?


without touching the motor, we are talking way over 14k
u will really need to run 1.4 bar+ to get that sort of power, so a fully done up internal will be needed.
u will also need some cam+head job to open up the big ass turbo as 2.2L WILL be laggy.

then u might also need to worry about breaking gearbox and drive shaft.
after u sort out all the problem u can now looking for LSD + suspension to put the power to the ground...

hope i make some sense ;)

[zco]

wow. 10-14k. go buy a gtir. then you have a 13second car. stock. :D

[strafe]

What's wrong with the B16??? B16 + Forged Pistons + Camshafts + Valvesprings + Turbo = Quick, Well Balanced Car. (Larger Fuel Pump, Adjustable Fuel Regulator, Piggy Back Managemet, LSD, Larger Exhaust... it all starts to add up).

[anna1984]

i have no idea about honda
but a 2L/2.2L to pull 250-300kw@wheel
u will need:
HKS GT3037 turbo kit (turbo, external gate, custom exhaust manifold) - 6k?
hybird bar & plate intercooler + piping - 1k?
custom turboback exhuast - <1.5k
740cc injector, custom fuel rail - 1.5k?
borch fuel pump - $300
twin plate clutch - 2k
ECU + tune - 2k+
labour - 2-3k

maybe bigger inlet manifold + throttle body - 1k?


without touching the motor, we are talking way over 14k
u will really need to run 1.4 bar+ to get that sort of power, so a fully done up internal will be needed.
u will also need some cam+head job to open up the big ass turbo as 2.2L WILL be laggy.

then u might also need to worry about breaking gearbox and drive shaft.
after u sort out all the problem u can now looking for LSD + suspension to put the power to the ground...

hope i make some sense ;)

yes i so agree with u..

im glad some1 here knows what ther talkin bout..

what did i tell u guys frm the start thers no way u gona pull 250-300kw atw with 10-14k..

[WPN.22R]

maybe i can take you for a ride one day anna, .... and show you reciepts!:D

[anna1984]

maybe i can take you for a ride one day anna, .... and show you reciepts!:D

yeh sure no worries!!

[Mst_Mugen]

yeh sure no worries!!
haha.... it would b a real shame if anna was a guy.... posing as a girl... =( i like girls who know there carz

[anna1984]

haha.... it would b a real shame if anna was a guy.... posing as a girl... =( i like girls who know there carz

lol

am i intimidating u guys??

[WPN.22R]

guy or girl i dont mind!!

[anna1984]

wot if i told u i was bloke?? lol

[tRipitaka]

a she-man !

[anna1984]

haha.. nah im a chick!!

my knowledge aint that great with cars, pretty average

[Mst_Mugen]

haha.. nah im a chick!!

my knowledge aint that great with cars, pretty average
what nash r u thenz?? judgin from ur grammar... id say ur azn =P hehe

[Q_ball]

judgin from ur grammar... id say ur azn =P hehe
very perceptive indeed! :)

n yes, 14K for 250-300kw atw is do-able

[DOHCTR Coopz!]

use that money 2 invest in shares or deposit 2 buy a house! long term benefits.. spending that much on ur car is just gona be an even bigger money pit plus its depreciation and maintenence.. unless ur stinkin rich..? then donate 2 sum charity.. my bank no. is... ehehe if u go ahead with it GOODLUCK bruH..! btw, im just wondering what kind of times could u possibly get with these kind of mods? 20's? 10's? 1's? DNF's?

[anna1984]

what nash r u thenz?? judgin from ur grammar... id say ur azn =P hehe

yups im asian.
and no im not a typical asian! hehe
im 1 of a kind..

yeh so true DOHCTR Coopz!
go invest in shares or something or even better, double up at the casino!! lol

[Mst_Mugen]

yups im asian.
and no im not a typical asian! hehe
im 1 of a kind..

yeh so true DOHCTR Coopz!
go invest in shares or something or even better, double up at the casino!! lol
casino!!! man!! i lost soo much last week!!... i broke up with my girl n wanted to juz take my mind off shit.... =( dont go to casino.... mayb invest in some shit, but not casino

[anna1984]

casino!!! man!! i lost soo much last week!!... i broke up with my girl n wanted to juz take my mind off shit.... =( dont go to casino.... mayb invest in some shit, but not casino

gime the money, ill double up 4 u =]

[Mst_Mugen]

gime the money, ill double up 4 u =]
hehe... do u think i can trust u anna??? mayb if i get to know u better =P haha

[anna1984]

hehe... do u think i can trust u anna??? mayb if i get to know u better =P haha

yes for sureee..

my parents r mad experts at the casino
i learn all my techniques from them lol

[Mst_Mugen]

yes for sureee..

my parents r mad experts at the casino
i learn all my techniques from them lol
...... umm, where boutz in sydney u from?? how old r u??? 180s?? u gonna sell ur civic then if u find one?

[EGB16A]

casino!!! man!! i lost soo much last week!!... i broke up with my girl n wanted to juz take my mind off shit.... =( dont go to casino.... mayb invest in some shit, but not casino

don't play the pokies.... i make the bloody things, and they are designed to rob you....

[Mst_Mugen]

don't play the pokies.... i make the bloody things, and they are designed to rob you....
yeah... i think we're kinda startin to get a lil side tracked now.... hehe its all good though =)

[EGB16A]

yeah... i think we're kinda startin to get a lil side tracked now.... hehe its all good though =)

LOL... yeah true.. i still say work the b16

[anna1984]

...... umm, where boutz in sydney u from?? how old r u??? 180s?? u gonna sell ur civic then if u find one?

if i eva find a sil80 or onevia with low kms then yeh
but honestly dont think ive got a chance of findin 1 at all..

yeh work on the b16!!!

[euroasia]

i got a silvia ready that might be going through a onevia process very soon if your interested? :p

- i'm considering changing badges - specifically to a honda jdm eg6 if i ever bloody find one.

[Mst_Mugen]

i got a silvia ready that might be going through a onevia process very soon if your interested? :p

- i'm considering changing badges - specifically to a honda jdm eg6 if i ever bloody find one.
umm.. yeah... we're still gettin side tracked here..... back to the h22a conversion with the TC....

[anna1984]

umm.. yeah... we're still gettin side tracked here..... back to the h22a conversion with the TC....

yeh so wot are you plans 4 doin up ur car??

[integraz]

300kw might be possible but .. i think reliability issues would come in...10k seems a bit cheap.. including the h22a converson

[EGB16A]

i'd be interested to see how much this mechanic is getting the h22a engine for? (or how much he thinks he is getting it for?)

[fadz]

lol thats insane 10-14 k to get 250 - 300 kw @ the wheels
il do it tomorow if its even a fact.

[Usual Suspect]

has andy (pornstar) posted anything yet? id like to here what he has to say, but i think he may be playing it smart and not getting involved in what seemed to be turning into a bitch fight.

[EG5]

if you do have $14000 cash, the money can make your b16a well over 200kw

and then add another 5-10 for brakes suspension

and you might hurt yourself or the car in such a high hp fwd car if oyu dont know what you are doing.

[CRX-Ando]

The whole notion may prove to be headache-central so let me make it easier for you mate...with 10K to play with, the breakdown should formulate according to this rough plan of attack...set aside 5K for a turbo setup on low boost with your current B16A, invest 2K in shares, bring along 1K to take your parentals & close friends out for a seafood feast at a fancy restaurant & enjoy the remaining 2K on a fun-filled w/end at Jupiters Casino for yourself and Anna1984 :cool:

[Usual Suspect]

The whole notion may prove to be headache-central so let me make it easier for you mate...with 10K to play with, the breakdown should formulate according to this rough plan of attack...set aside 5K for a turbo setup on low boost with your current B16A, invest 2K in shares, bring along 1K to take your parentals & close friends out for a seafood feast at a fancy restaurant & enjoy the remaining 2K on a fun-filled w/end at Jupiters Casino for yourself and Anna1984 :cool:

hahahahaha im sorry but thats gold. hahahahaha.

[anna1984]

The whole notion may prove to be headache-central so let me make it easier for you mate...with 10K to play with, the breakdown should formulate according to this rough plan of attack...set aside 5K for a turbo setup on low boost with your current B16A, invest 2K in shares, bring along 1K to take your parentals & close friends out for a seafood feast at a fancy restaurant & enjoy the remaining 2K on a fun-filled w/end at Jupiters Casino for yourself and Anna1984 :cool:

LMAO :thumbsup:
good call =]

[Mst_Mugen]

The whole notion may prove to be headache-central so let me make it easier for you mate...with 10K to play with, the breakdown should formulate according to this rough plan of attack...set aside 5K for a turbo setup on low boost with your current B16A, invest 2K in shares, bring along 1K to take your parentals & close friends out for a seafood feast at a fancy restaurant & enjoy the remaining 2K on a fun-filled w/end at Jupiters Casino for yourself and Anna1984 :cool:
hahha all this talk about anna... and no one knowz who she really is..... =P

[Mst_Mugen]

The whole notion may prove to be headache-central so let me make it easier for you mate...with 10K to play with, the breakdown should formulate according to this rough plan of attack...set aside 5K for a turbo setup on low boost with your current B16A, invest 2K in shares, bring along 1K to take your parentals & close friends out for a seafood feast at a fancy restaurant & enjoy the remaining 2K on a fun-filled w/end at Jupiters Casino for yourself and Anna1984 :cool:
seafood though.... umm, not realli my thing... neither is jupiters.... ive lost enough money already juz last week =( either way... i like ur breakdown.... good work bro =)

[pgclee]

10-14k for 250kw...hmm...
if the setup is rite...and you get cheap parts...Might be possible..
Try kkk 26k or Td06 20g...
port and polish + Valve Spring + Cam Gear...
Dry Sleeves and Low Comp piston (83mm) i think RB20 piston can be used. (not that sure)...Cons + balanced Crank + Oil Pump...
Power Fc? or smth else...
Intercooler Piping + Intercooler (Evo intercooler)
2.5 inch Piping + 550cc injectors or 700cc...
Oversize TB and intake...
1.5mm - 2mm Head gasket
i think with that plus a good labour and work, u will find that your 14k is well spent...
u can run up to 1.2bar - 1.8bar if the guy knows how to setup your car...i've seen one..its all about workmanship...and perfect balance engine...250kw is not to say not achieveble...just find the rite workshop to do it...

[anna1984]

hahha all this talk about anna... and no one knowz who she really is..... =P

well if u guys r thinking im a guy well im not =]

[wynode]

A lot of off topic chat here so keep it out please. This is a warning!

As for your 250-300kW I would stick with the b16a and rebuild it and run high boost on that setup. You could go for the H22a engine with larger capacity but it might cost you more by the time you change your internals (something you will have to do to get some reliability).

Also, there is more aftermarket support for the b16a and parts will be easier to come buy.

[Maxx]

for a 1.6L to push 300kw@wheel is a big call
the 2.2L is always a better option

U will always need the cube for more air to wind up the turbo rather than rev

E.g. assume both head flow the same amount of air
to product the amount of air a 2.2L in 8500rpm, a 1.6L need to rev upto 11687rpm
in order to rev to that number, some VERY expensive head work will need to be done and u will need to check the head every few thounsand kms.

still, the 2.2L will have better off boost torque and better driveability, will be more realiable too.



if it's 250kw then it will be another story

my 2 cents

[pgclee]

a b18 will do the job...2.2 is just too much trouble...and..can your chasis support that kinda weight...will it crack...alot of consideration if you don't have that Hi budget call...but..stick to N/A..you'll love the Roar...Haha...

[wynode]

a b18 will do the job...2.2 is just too much trouble...and..can your chasis support that kinda weight...will it crack...alot of consideration if you don't have that Hi budget call...but..stick to N/A..you'll love the Roar...Haha...
I don't believe the weight difference between the two will be so much that it will 'crack' the chasis. Just make sure you get propper mounts for the H22A