civic ek vs celica

[ld1chai]

hi ppl ~ i'm noobie so excuse me =] well my friend asked me to drag him some day and his got a celica sx 91 model and ive got a ek gli stock ... wonder who will win ?

[Rowie]

one way to find out..... :D

Is the celica stock? and both manual i presume ?

[ld1chai]

hehe yeah guess thats the best way >=] and yeah his celica has an exhaust system ... and yeah both manual

[joneblaze]

Hey buddy,

IMHO, having driven 91 SX a fair few times and seen the "power" of a GLi EK hatch, i'd have to say you'd get well and truly chopped.
Assuming you're both around the same level as drivers, you'd get minced both off the line and down the road....
THe SX's are pretty heavy cars, but 2.2L and around the 105ish kw mark at the very least... they've got plenty of kick off the line and do decently at higher revs too...
AFAIK however your Gli has very little power, and although considerably lighter, i think won't be able to keep up. :(
Best bet, try and get a great launch first up and rev out each gear with smooth gear changes...... u never know... but mid 3rd u still might be close even with him........

good luck :)

jon

[MrPlow]

i know your asking about ek gli ...

but i have chopped a stock 91 celica in my slammed ek vti-r hatch at a set of lights :D i only have a air filter!

[A'PEXi]

ek gli 96kw stock :P not sure bout the celica

[DJ]

EK GLi has actually 88KW stock

[euro77]

wasn't it ek vti that has 96kw stock?

[DJ]

Yep the VTi has 96kw Stock, GLi 88kw & the VTi R around 115 Kw

[BlakTegra]

All i know is the 1989-93 Celica SX's are slow asssssssssssssssssssssss.
My mate got an auto one and he lost to my other mate wich was a '92 Toyota Pasoe. Those celicas are only for look i reckon. However, GT-4 different story...hehehehe

But I don't know anything about ur Civic Gli EK sorry... :(

[joneblaze]

I dunno mate... my friend owns a 5spd 93 SX...2.2L with plenty of torque IMO...
DC2 VTiR would definitely beat it... but they really got some go....
Not sure about the auto versions, and have never been in a Paseo, but those SX's are definitely not "only for look i reckon"...... lol

[ld1chai]

hi ppl ! i finalli got the chance to race my friend and it was a draw ! we had 2 races ... up and then down the strip ... he had 1 passenger in the car in the first race and he lost ... and then the passenger jumped into my car and he won ... guess that weight counts alot ! :) well ive been thinkin' about getting an exhaust system for my civic ... heard 2 1/4" are good for non turbo cars? any suggestions ? thx 4 ur contribution :o

[BlakTegra]

Huh? draw? Both runs weren't valid man!
You guys shoulda had another few runs WITHOUT the passenger inside.
The passenger can be the chick that does the sexy dance before she drops her scarf...hahahaha

[McChook]

The passenger can be the chick that does the sexy dance before she drops her undies...hahahaha

edited and will agree

[wynode]

1. EK Vti is 88kW (SOHC Non-VTEC)
2. I've raced a ~91 Celica in my Si (both cars stock) and it was neck and neck.(that was before the car was tuned ETC).

[joneblaze]

Really Win? hmm... maybe I'm overestimating my friends car... never had a chance to run it... and SHE'S a pretty decent driver.... oh well...
I've driven it a fair few times and they go pretty well...
props to your pimp Si. :)

[dc2r]

Yeah joneblaze... I really do think that you overestimate these Celica's man... no offence aight? I just really think that they're not that quick. And the engine displacement doesn't count for anything as a 1.8L can beat a 5.0L. Don't be fooled by the engine displacement. :D
And I thought that the EK VTi were SOHC VTEC??

[joneblaze]

hehe.. oh no no, the displacement wasn't the main arguing point for myself. Just the fact that when i drive the SX, it feels alot torquier than my GSi or VTiRs i've driven....
But i suppose the Hondas need to be revved :)
I still can't believe a GLi beat an SX...hehe...sorry not meaning to bag ur car buddy. If you beat him then well done and well driven! It's always satisfying to beat cars which are "rated" and touted more than yours. ;)
You should race the SX again, which no passengers and see how you go!

Yeah DC2R, isn't the EK Vti SOHC VTEC? Isn't that what the "V" stands for? hehe.. so misleading...
Win? :roll:

[wynode]

EK Vti isn't SOHC VTEC. They stopped putting the SOHC VTEC motors in the EK models.

Its been "argued" a few times before on this forum. Check the sticky for more info:

http://www.ozhonda.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4

[wynode]

Just to add......The Celica IS Torqy, but torque isn't everything.

That said, i've raced my friends ~94/95 model Celica (same Camry engine) and he kills me off the line (about 1 - 1.5 body lenghts).......but after that he doesn't pull away much more.

[McChook]

Win, Isn't an EJ (sedan EK) a SOHC Vtec, as is the "ek" coupe Vti....

[wynode]

THe EK Vti coupe is SOHC-VTEC (98kW if i remember correctly), but the EK vti Sedan isn't SOHC VTEC.

[McChook]

hmmm... ok... *research time*

[FR33K]

mmmm from experience celicas are slooooowwwww.theyre only 100kw i think.. but toooo heavy. ive run so many in my teg LS.. B18A (96kw).. ive never lost... same as the v6s camrys which are even faster than the celicas..

[majic777]

freek! fancy meeting you here...

[kleenex]

i got a GLi with exhaust, pod and beat my friend sx

his just got exhuast

funny thing was that in 1st i was already down 1 length and then after 2nd i started catching up bad and once in 3rd...he was half behind and then 4th i was more than 1 car

i dunno why but we did 4 more runs and the same results kept happening..

explainations

[diu le lo mo]

of cos the civic will kill the celica .......

[FR33K]

freek! fancy meeting you here...

haha couldnt help myself !!
people saying celicas are quick when they are not

[luzinit]

well we are comparing it to a civic ;P

[Javed]

Celicas are slow as shit.