Civic vti coupe

[Bol]

I'm looking to get a '96 vti coupe and just wondering how much i should look to pay, expecting probably 13-16k but not really sure.

Also, how much would a '95/'96 vti-r cost? and are they hard to come by?

So with $15k or there abouts, do you think the 96 vti would be a good choice?

Thnks

[evil_mike]

Well I've got a Civic Coupe and quite frankly I dont see any problems with them whatsoever. They are a good application for a first car due to the lower insurance cost and I definitely the maintenance cost would be much cheaper than say a Nissan 180sx. (Just using it as an example because I wanted the 180sx more)

However, keeping in mind, you need to know that parts for Civic Coupes are much more of a rare find than that of a regular Civic Sedan/Hatch and you might see yourself paying an extra more. But besides that, its a very economical car because I would be assuming that the car that you want is SOHC due to its year model.

But hey, if you want more grunt out of a Honda than I would suggest you go look for a Integra VTiR. For 15K, you would find one.

[skoota]

I don't think 15k would get a very good one. Prob a '93 or so with heaps of km's on the clock.

Hey Bol, is the 15k the money you can spend on just the car, or is it the total amount of money you have???

[Bol]

15 just on the car.

I'm pretty sure there are a few around.

[skoota]

If it's your first car I would go for the Civic Coupe VTi, as the VTi-R Civic and Integra would be hell on you with insurance. It is was me though I would go for like a '95 Integra VTi-R you could get a reasonable or fairly good one for that price. Hope that helps.

[Bol]

Yeah it's a first car. Would it be a good choice?

I might look at an older VTi-R, the insurance wouldnt be that high would it? And do the Vti's go alrite for what they are?

[Bol]

http://www.carsales.com.au/pls/carsales/!cs_content.dealer_vehicle?vehicle_id=1422417&curr ent_rec=10&total_rec=17&sort_type=1&make_id=19&mod el_id=74&badge_id=272&search_distance=50


This is pretty much the car i was after, but i dont fully understand the difference between each model. Is there somewhere i can find info on each model and what the difference is between the gli, vti, vtir etc. ??/

Thanks :)

[CTR Coupe]

Ok the main differences between the different models are engines plus luxury items cup holders, dual airbag etc

GLI – base model in the 4door and coupe range (GLI coupes only available after 97 I think?) basically has the SOHC non VTEC engine in the engine bay plus no passenger airbag + a few other things missing that I cant remember. I’m sure some one else can tell me what else.

VTI – middle of the range avaible as a hatch, 4 door and coupe comes with the SOHC VTEC engine. Dual airbags etc etc (this is what most coupes are available 96-00)

VTI-R – the racy sports model comes with the (B16a) DOHC VTEC engine. (these are only available in coupe form from 99-00. they were a hatch 96-98)

I’m sure a lot of other ppl on here can give u a bit better descriptions on the smaller differences

[Bol]

So all the vti have VTEC?

On the sticky it says


Engine1: '93-94 1.6L SOHC VTEC 16-valve 96kW@6,800rpm
Engine2: '95-00 1.6L SOHC 16-valve 88kW

[skoota]

The VTi-R's only came in coupes in 99-00. They were still hatches in '98. The "V" basically means VTEC. But unlike the VTi-R the VTi's are only SOHC. Depends on what you're after - power or economy. If I were you I'd go with the VTi.

My mate is 21 and has a '97 VTi-R Tegg and couldn't get insurance anywhere except for Just Cars and his premium and pretty high. Now for a first car buyer I can only assume you're still in high school and may not get a full-time job for a while so wait until you're older and have more $$$ before you go DOHC VTEC.

I am 21 and will be rating 2 in June on my b'day and I did a defensive driving course through AAMI and only own a '99 EK GLi hatch and am still paying $1,200 a year full comp. As two doors cars are considered 'sports cars'. With the cars you are looking at you HAVE TO go full comp. So go the VTi.

[Bol]

Yeah im only 17, so insuring the Vti will probably be bad enough.

Not a bad first car, i can live with that :D

[CTR Coupe]

well im not totally sure about anything before 96. but there was no civic coupes sold in australia before 96. all the coupes sold in australia are all the EK shape i was assuming that u wanted to know about civic coupes

[Tofu]

the VTi civic coupe are not a bad run about car...
still have a fair bit of go in them considering they are only 1.6L
and yes, insurance is a biatch...

i'm 21, rating 3 driving a 2002 Integra Special Edition (base model)
insurance is $2300... :x

[Bol]

I think i'll get it insured though my parents with myself as a driver... massive excess though ($1950), for my 1st 2 years driving.

But umm... the VTi should be about $900 a year

[skoota]

Ahh yes it will be cheaper to go through your folks' names in the short run but when you put your policy under your name you will have to start from scratch with a rating 6 - i think that is the lowest, and your premium and excess will not be friendly unless you do this after you're 25.

[evil_mike]

http://www.carsales.com.au/pls/carsales/!cs_content.dealer_vehicle?vehicle_id=1422417&curr ent_rec=10&total_rec=17&sort_type=1&make_id=19&mod el_id=74&badge_id=272&search_distance=50


This is pretty much the car i was after, but i dont fully understand the difference between each model. Is there somewhere i can find info on each model and what the difference is between the gli, vti, vtir etc. ??/

Thanks :)

hmmm... it's auto!!! Is that what you wanted?

[skoota]

Is it auto? Stay away from that then dude. You want manula for sure on this kind of car otherwise it would be a gutless tin can on wheels! :P

[Bol]

lol, i cant drive manual.

[skoota]

Are you serious?!?!? Well learn boy!

[Bol]

It wont be that much worse than manual will it?

[madgrk]

I've driven an EK manual AND auto, and oh boy there is a MAAAAAAASIVE difference in driveability. Trust me you will enjoy the manual more if you have a manual licence :) But choose whatever you feel like choosing dude :D

[Bol]

Well i dont have a manual licence, so auto is the only choice.

[skoota]

Either car you choose, the performance is going to suffer BADLY. So seeing as you have no choice ummm... eat shit? j/k Anyway good luck with it all - maybe u should go for manual license - it aint hard.

[Bol]

If you're saying it's going to go like shit, then could you suggest something else to get in the price range? Can' be too old though, say about '95... but i'm open to any suggestions.

[evil_mike]

Well personally if your looking for performance wise, than Honda Civics wouldn't do too well. They are pretty weak cars as oppose to the big guns such as the commodores/ silvia K for example. Also getting a VTi Coupe wouldn't help either because they were design to be economical not performance wise like their older brother the VTiR coupe which I assume is out of your price range.

If it was me and I wanted a performance car for your price range, I would go for a Nissan 180sx with a SR20DET engine. It's a DOHC with Turbo and for 15K you would find one easily. But the ball is in your court on whether or not you would want to go through the insurance cost and maintenance of this sport car.

Good luck with your car hunting. Find one that won't break your balls after 6 months when your realise that every cent you make is going towards the car.

[skoota]

Personally i would not be looking for a performance sports car for a first car. What if you smash it? What if somebody (and this happended to me TWICE) smashed into your car while it was parked and YOU have to pay for it. Yes it happened to my first car and to my Civic - $2,100 damage, and yes i had to pay the excess of $450 and lose my rating ffs.

So when you buy your first car, plan for every possiblity, plan for the worst cos there is no point changing your life style drastically for just a car. And most ppl's first cars aren't that great! Just keep in mind what evil_mike said, you odn't wanna be spending all your hard earnt $$$ on your car ain't worth it.

[Bol]

You both make good points. Thats why i was after a newer car, to save from any hassles on an old crap heap.

If i wanted a decent performace car it's going to have to be 15 or more years old for the price factor alone and to be honest it's not really the thing i'm after.

[madgrk]

You will NEVER enjoy a new(er) car until you've driven a bucket of shit.. Trust me 8)

[skoota]

Good point. My first car was a '88 Ford Laser Ghia - biggest piece of shit ever. Then when I got my Civic - oh happy days. Now I wanna sell again. Anyone wanna buy a '99 Civic GLi hatch????

[Ranquist]

i hear you 'bout insurance, i got a Vti coupe and they still want $1550 comprehensive, even with 2 years no claim bonus special price. hence i'm currently driving uninsured (bar 3rd party) ... and very carefully.

by the way you can pick up a stock 96 teg Vti-r for under $15k with under 100k on the clock. very tempting

[nugget1]

I got a 98 civic coupe auto with 80K on the clock, I paid $9600 but had to spend 2 grand on the transmission, I pay $368 comp insurannce through QBE, I do have a lifetime no claim bonus though and it's insured for $14,250, it's not that gutsy but I've got it to 160 k quite comfortably and it's zippy enough around the city.
Do all coupes have VTI? I don't think mine is VTec either.
Good luck
Nugget1

[Ranquist]

nugget1,
do you pay $368 for FULL comprehensive? coz if so thats really cheap!! coat me $150 - 200 just for 3rd party with QBE

in reference to your 2nd question, EJ8 have a 1.6L SOHC VTEC (double check the engine model on the block if D16Y8 it's the sohc vtec as above). well i have a EJ8 and thats what i've got i assume yours would be the same.

[nugget1]

Ranquist,
That's $368 for full comprehensive, I thought it was pretty cheap to. I had a magna before and I was paying $368. for that and it was insured for $5800, when I bought the Honda I just transferred the policy and they valued it at $14,240. and the cost stayed the same!
Yes I do have a D16Y8 so it must be VTEC, is it VTI as well? There's no badges or anything to say so.

[steve88]

my brothers got one, he LOVES it

[c3024534]

Have you considered a EK CXi. You get pretty much the same engine as the VTi and you could pick up a good 96 - 98 model for around $7000 - $8000. My first car was a 97 CXi. It was a great car until I ran it into a power pole<<<<<. Anyway I drove a '96 VTi coupe recently and didn't notice any difference. Now I'm 20 and have just bought a '99 VTI-R Coupe. It has everything that made my CXi great plus the power to outrun those damn commonwhores.

So whatever Honda you choose I promise you that you will not regret it. They're great cars.

[Kandy]

Why are you people replying to a 3 year old thread ~_~
I'm sure the dude would have found a car and insured it by now...

[Ranquist]

guess i just can't pass up an opportunity to have a go at insurance companies