DC2 Service

[Benji]

my bro's Vti-r has 116,000kms and is due for service, he rang honda and they said they do a major($800) service at 120,000kms.

Is this correct? doesn't the major service happen at 100,000kms? should it just be a normal service?

[Felix]

yeah honda told me that the 80 000ks service is a major one too and wanted to charge me $720 for it.
I just got the 80 000 done at my local mechanic.
I recon its just a money making scheme by honda.

[Felix]

ohhh, and i asked them why the 80000 service was a major one and why it would cost so much. They replied "cause we have to plug your car into a specialiesed honda machine that takes several hours to diagnose any faults and to tune it correctly."
Crock of shit i say.

[Mr Wendal]

ohhh, and i asked them why the 80000 service was a major one and why it would cost so much. They replied "cause we have to plug your car into a specialiesed honda machine that takes several hours to diagnose any faults and to tune it correctly."
Crock of shit i say.

I just had my vtir serviced. had the 80k done. they charged me around 460.. honda service center. thing is.. they said they plugged it into the HDS? system and tuned the car.. i got the car back and it was still idling kinda rough and using up a lot of fuel - struggle to reach 400k on a tank. so i took the car back and asked them to check it out. They said they reset the computer and plugged it back in to retune the car .. i cant notice any difference.. wont b going back to that honda!

is it tru they dont need to change spark plugs in a vtir??

[mikes94]

I think if you look at your owners service/warranty book the Integras major services are every 40,000km (look at the hrs set aside and what they do). So at 40,000, 80,000, 120,000 etc.

I think 20,000km intervals are kind of like a semi-major service (they change an additional fluid ... clutch/brake or something). But most Honda dealers I have been to treat them like a minor and dont this anyway (and rabbit on about revised service scheules when you complain!!).

100,000km is not a major service although typically the timing belt is replaced at this time (which generally leads people to believe its a major service).

Mike

[THE_MASS]

I think 20,000km intervals are kind of like a semi-major service (they change an additional fluid ... clutch/brake or something). But most Honda dealers I have been to treat them like a minor and dont this anyway (and rabbit on about revised service scheules when you complain!!).



Mike

thats absolutely true.
you should have a look at your owners manual and treat it as a 20,000km service. basically the process starts again. ever 20,000km should be treated as a semi major service. beacuse they change oil/fiulds.
you should go by the manaul. ;)
as for the service price of 800 bucks.... well, i think you should look some where else. they're porbably trying to scam more money off you. even a major service doesnt cost that much.
i got quoted $735 for my 100,000km service...

[GSI-PSI]

100,000km service is different though because you need ya timing belt replaced. I cant believe you guys still take ya car to honda or a mechanic for that matter. Its easy enough to do it yaself. Save ya cash guys n use it on ya mods lol

[tinkerbell]

50,000 + 100,000 + 150,000 + 200,000 etc service =

oil
oil filter
air filter
spark plugs
valve clearance check
inspect and adjust drive belts

the brake fluid is scheduled to be replaced at 75,000 and 150,000

the 150,000 service ALSO includes transmission fluid

all of the above is based on "normal driving conditions"

GSI-PSI - the factory service manuals indicate that the T.belt should be replaced at 150,000km (93-97) or at 170,000km (98-01)

[tinkerbell]

oh, and fuel filter at 100,000km intervals...

[freakygeek]

Tinkers... My DC2R Service Booklet says 100k km's for T-Belt.

Is the VTiR that different?

[tinkerbell]

i am going of the USDM factory service manual.

maybe Honda Oz, edited the service booklet for their own greedy purposes...

http://members.iinet.net.au/~joannepulis/sparefiles/service%20schedule98-01DC2.jpg

[tinkerbell]

BTW - T.belt is still at 170,000km under "severe conditions" too...

[Trojan]

Yep TinkerBell i have the same service manual (US) and it says the same thing as u got up there posted. 168,000KMs is when they tell ya to change the timing belt, NOT 100,000kms that they ask you to do here in OZ. And 168,000KMS applies for the V-tec aswell as the gsi.
Its just a money making thing here in australia!!!
Engines in the US and here are absolutly the same dc2, so why require different kilometers here and the US?

Would like to hear of ppl who have had their timing belts snap on them and at how many Km's its happened.....please let us know

[T-onedc2]

I just had my DC2's 80,000km service and this is the equal biggest service, and was very happy with the results. Cost was $719 including $170 for clutch master cylinder fitted. No funny bussiness going on there. I think you're a bit too paranoid.

[Terry]

Honda Dealer service is so expensive:!: Is the word "peace of mind" really worth that much?:confused:

[T-onedc2]

To me "yes" definitely. That's why I chose a Honda dealer over what I consider a reputable mechanic much closer to home, plus they know these cars better than most mechanics.

[online]

The best part of taking your car to a Honda dealer is the fact that you pay $700 for a service that a 1st or 2nd year apprentice does for you.. Do you really think the most experienced tradesman works on the car himself..

[ECU-MAN]

it really comes down to pot luck,

all depends on who they give the Job to.

[PC_DC2R]

I agree with ECU man and Online because with most Dealerships to cut down overhead cost they'll only have a couple of fully qualified mechanics and the rest are all 1st year apprentices. Hence thats the reason why i never go to a dealership with all cars I had,including my current car.
I rather let a fully qualified mechanic to work on my car rather than some apprentice who has half the clue and no concern for you car's welfare.

[shebangs]

The best part of taking your car to a Honda dealer is the fact that you pay $700 for a service that a 1st or 2nd year apprentice does for you.. Do you really think the most experienced tradesman works on the car himself..

Yep!

Which is why I have my own mechanic who I trust (and took me 2 years to find) that I give my car to. All dealers have apprentices do the work. Although, on a major job (timing belt etc) it's possible one of the more experienced people may do it.

[ECU-MAN]

so what do all the Mechanics do all day ???

think of this

yes its cheaper for a dealership to make an aprentice do services. but an apprentice can only do 2 major services in one day. one in the morning and one in the afternoon.

a mechanic can do 4 major services in one day. because he is more experienced and can work quicker. if he was a dumb ass slow mechanic. chances are he would not of been kept when his apprentership finished.

so when the pump is on, everyone services cars

also where do you thing good mechanics came from. they where all apprentices once too :)

[Felix]

Thats right, a good 2nd year apprentice will probably take more care and do a better job then a 40yr old mechanic that doesnt want to do it anymore and doesnt give a ****...

[geo41e]

1st yr and 2nd yr apprentice don't do major services

they only do 1st, 10,000 n 20,000k services

every 40,000 is a major service

every 100,000 is changing all belts and sparkplugs (if platinum)

DC2Rs change at 80,000 however they do push it to 100,000 or evey 5 years.

[00dc2]

my australian dc2r manual says to change spark plugs and timing belt at 100,000km

[mpd076-chuck]

I dont buy into the 100,000k Platinum plugs... Platinum plugs at 100,000 usually look completely and utterly shot. I just changed mine this weekend at 65,000 kms and they were stuffed (seals covered in oil blow back etc), the car feels so much smoother now with new plugs. Changing plugs by yourself is dead easy, the least you can do is pull them out and check/clean them. Repco (etc) sell the tool you need to unscrew them.

[doriemon]

how much does it cost normally to replace the timing belt for a b18c?

[Trojan]

Well all up i paid 600 smth dollars for my 100,000km service that included timing belt, oil change, replace oil filter and and fuel filter. But he told me he charged me a bit more cause he spent half the day trying to replace a screw that was snapped somewhere in the engine.
I think i paid a bit more than most ppl would charge but it was mostly cause of that screw that took him so long to remove and replace!!

[Trojan]

forgot to mention that price of 600 also included the changing of all my spark plugs on a vtec (platinum plugs)

[Terry]

i know what my car needed for service, so everytime i will buy the best possible stuff and found the cheap service center and watch them to do it......save money and get better value for my hard earned dollar:D and i m sure is money well spend compare with Honda Dealer Service....

[ECU-MAN]

1st yr and 2nd yr apprentice don't do major services



dude as a 2nd year apprentice I was rebuilding automatic transmissions ( quite well as well ) also doing timming belts.

put it this way. A technician ( gloryfied name for a mechanic ) wheather they are apprentices or fully qualified will be treated by there compitency level.
I have seen dumb ass mechanics and aprentices.
as well I have seen real bright self motivated mechanics and aprentices.

pretty much, being any place you take your car. it is pot luck who works on your car, and there skill level as well.

unless you know the place and dude your taking your car to..