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LUD02C
15-07-2005, 04:38 PM
The other one got abit too big, so I started a new one.
Please continue about how good Michael Schumacher is!

nEUROtic
15-07-2005, 04:44 PM
You spelt discussion wrong. So Michael Schumacher sucks!

LUD02C
15-07-2005, 04:51 PM
HA HA HA, I can't spell.
Schumacher does not suck!

nEUROtic
15-07-2005, 04:51 PM
Also with what you said about the BMW m5 and the f1 bmw, the BMW m5 has a ****load more momentum, and hence would require more stopping power. The fact that the f1 car braked faster only proves how heavy the m5 is. To get the m5 to the same speed as the f1 car requires a lot more force, and hence requires a lot more force to stop.

Its in principia mathematica people!!!!!

*Technical Difficulties*

LUD02C
15-07-2005, 04:57 PM
The BMW road car wasn't going as fast as the F1 car.
Also, aero alone no brakes stopping an F1 car quicker is something you can tell the bogans at the V8s.

nEUROtic
15-07-2005, 04:59 PM
had to be some brakes. Aero is more effective at high speeds. The car from say 150-25 decelaration woulda been insanely quick. But from 25-0 there is very little aero, so it wouldnt have done the car a lot of good. I spose there the fatness of the f1 tyres come into play.

LUD02C
15-07-2005, 05:02 PM
He said something about Monaco aero spec is heaps different compared to others. I'm trying to find it on the net now.

jackosimm
15-07-2005, 05:39 PM
damn those bogans!!!

Vivski
17-07-2005, 02:01 AM
The M5 is a big car and has BIG brakes!! Those things can stop! I'm surprised the F1 slowed quicker, even in Monaco trim. Just goes to show how much aero they are running.

EDIT: As an afterthought, there's also a lot of internal resistance in an F1 engine at 18000RPM. I'm sure alot of the stopping power is coming from engine braking.

jackosimm
17-07-2005, 10:46 PM
sure does, I remember Bahrain this year I think? Webber locked his rear's a couple of times because of a gear box problem which resulted in him solely relying on brakes, or am I hulusinating again?

^^v
19-07-2005, 02:20 PM
http://formula-1.updatesport.com/news/content/gfxHeadline.php?text=BAR%2C+Williams%2C+in+Button+ tussle
New 'Button-gate' to rev up
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(GMM) A new and ironic tug-of-war between BAR and Williams (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/team/4/Williams/view.html) may be set to emerge over F1 ace Jenson Button (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/driver/15/Jenson-Button/view.html).

Last year, 25-year-old JB - ultimately thwarted by the contract recognition board - wanted to leave BAR and re-join Sir Frank Williams (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/team/4/Williams/view.html)' ranks.

This time around, though, Williams (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/team/4/Williams/view.html) appears to have the contractual hold on Button for 2006, who - paradoxically - now wants to stay at BAR because Grove lack a works engine.

Part Honda-owned BAR has reportedly offered the English driver a huge salary and five year deal because it cannot meet a performance clause, but Williams (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/team/4/Williams/view.html) appear intent on exercising their option.

The compromise, perhaps, might be a V8 deal between Williams (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/team/4/Williams/view.html) and Honda -- with JB, allowed to stay at BAR, a sweetener.

''Rest assured,'' BAR 'CEO' Nick Fry told the Daily Telegraph last week, ''we will try to give Jenson what he wants -- and what we want.''

If you ask Jenson's F1 mate David Coulthard (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/driver/4/David-Coulthard/view.html), though, he senses real goings on between JB and world champion team Ferrari (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/team/2/Ferrari/view.html).

''My gut feeling,'' the Scot told Glasgow's Daily Record, ''is something is happening that they are unable to announce for whatever reason.''

LUD02C
19-07-2005, 05:54 PM
He won't go to Ferrari.
Its just like the rumor when Mika is coming back.


Anyone got F1 2005 on PS2?
I'm so hooked on it.
Best F1 game they have brought out, actually steers correctly unlike any other F1 game

jackosimm
19-07-2005, 06:04 PM
might have to go grab a copy jase, Im still on 2001 I think lol, ah good times

^^v
19-07-2005, 06:31 PM
He won't go to Ferrari.
Anyone got F1 2005 on PS2?
I'm so hooked on it.
Best F1 game they have brought out, actually steers correctly unlike any other F1 game

ahahah yeah how mad is it!
got it last month n been hooked on it ever since...
i play out ever gp before it happens ahahahahah...

setting: manual trans n all aids off (even corner indication :cool: ) and in cockpit view.. now all i need it a driving wheel ahahah :wave: :D

jackosimm
19-07-2005, 06:33 PM
cant stand driving wheels for PS2 lol, much prefer good ol analog. Might have to get myself this game, need the new tracks and drivers and even teams!

^^v
19-07-2005, 06:47 PM
Red Bull Racing commit to Formula One to 2012
Joining Ferrari in F1 with new deal with FOA
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Red Bull confirm its future Formula One plans
Red Bull Racing has joined Ferrari in committing to Formula One beyond the end of the current Concorde agreement which expires at the end of 2007. Ferrari was the first team to announce a new deal with Formula One Administration in January.

The Milton-Keynes based team confirmed today ‘that it has reached an understanding with FOA to prolong the current Concorde Agreement from 2008 until 2012.’

With Red Bull Racing joining Ferrari and continuing Formula One as we know it, the manufacturer backed teams are planning their own break-away series for the 2008 season as they seek greater transparency than they believe they have with the current regime and also seek a greater slice of revenues.

Red Bull announced at the San Marino Grand Prix that they will use Ferrari engines in 2006 and are also expected to make the move over from Michelin tyres to Bridgestone at the end of the season.

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^^v
24-07-2005, 09:35 PM
Show me the cash - Stoddart
'We are the only team for sale'
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Stoddart aware of five groups looking to buy
into Formula One
Minardi boss Paul Stoddart says he is fed up with timewasters negotiating to buy his team and told any interested parties to put their money up front if they want to enter talks. Rumours at Hockenheim this weekend linked a consortium led by former Formula One driver Eddie Irvine with a possible Minardi buy-out but Stoddart denied he has had any dealings with the Ulsterman since the Monaco Grand Prix in May.

"There are people sniffing around but we have had too many false starts so I am going by numbers now," Stoddart said. "You just can't take any of it seriously unless there is money on the table. I want to stress that we have not had any discussions with Eddie (Irvine). I spoke to him back in Monaco on a what-if basis but I believed at that time that they were looking at Jordan."

"I am aware he is shopping, but they are one of five people that I know are shopping at the moment. We are the only team for sale, I think everyone accepts that, and I have made it clear I would always be willing to sell. I would always sell to someone if I thought the team could go further under them than it could under me, nothing has changed since September 11 in 2001, but I have always made it clear that it would have to be the right one."


Stoddart declared recently that this would be his final season in Formula One if FIA President Max Mosley retains his position at the head of the governing body in the elections later this year.

He called for Mosley's resignation following the United States Grand Prix, when the seven Michelin teams were forced to pull out of the race because of safety concerns over their tyres. But Mosley's position appears to have strengthened and Stoddart could be looking for a quick exit by the end of the year after growing disillusioned with the sport during his time on the inside.

He began at Minardi with a five-year plan to turn them into a regular points-scoring team but severe budget constraints coupled with the increase in manufacturer-backed teams has left the team rooted at the back of the pack. He believes Minardi needs a manufacturer partner to move further forward and, with rumours that Hyundai are looking seriously at the sport.

"I would love to have talks with Hyundai but I have had no approach from them at all. But that is the kind of way I would like Minardi to go. A company like Hyundai would be a perfect partner for a team like Minardi. I think that really would work."


:eek: Hyundai? lolz.. now that would be interesting...

LUD02C
25-07-2005, 07:32 PM
Don't laugh at Hyundai.
They do want in on F1 according motorsport weekly and an interview with Dave Richards confirmed that if Hyundai do buy into F1 he is going to run the team!

If you buy the best (like Ferrari did) you succeed and Hyundai learnt that lession in WRC.

Vivski
25-07-2005, 08:36 PM
Hyundai is a serious company. Cars are only a small part of it for them, but F1 would give exposure to the entire company. It's quite logical that they'd want to join F1.

jackosimm
25-07-2005, 09:00 PM
Be good seeing Hyundai in there, great marketing for them. To show off their skills in such a market like F1 would do them great favours.

LUD02C
26-07-2005, 04:37 PM
Same as Kuhmo wants to be the sole tyre for F1 (can't see it happening)

jackosimm
26-07-2005, 07:29 PM
hmm, it would make more sense taking one existing brand IMO. But the tyre battles are the way, keep two, maybe even add more?

Vivski
27-07-2005, 01:16 AM
It would be nice to get rid of tyre deals altogether. Let the tyre manufacturers bring their best tyres to each race and let the teams chose the ones they like the best, no matter who makes them. Would be much better for competition and you would still have multiple tyre manufacturers in the sport. It would speed up the development too.

Of course it will never happen, but it would be interesting.

jackosimm
27-07-2005, 11:22 AM
yeah let them run wild, teams too, everybody! There would be some absoloute thrilling battles, however poor minardi and jordan and anyone else down the order would get hammered

TwEigh
27-07-2005, 03:11 PM
hyundai and kumho want to be in F1?
hahahahahahahah

well i want to see mazda or nissan in F1 GP though

jackosimm
27-07-2005, 03:30 PM
nissan is renault so I dont see them coming in:p . Id love to see Hyundai in there, they have come so far recently and the sales boost it would provide once people realise that:thumbsup:

^^v
28-07-2005, 09:38 PM
Button states his position on staying at BAR
BAR Vs Williams set to roll again
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Button's contracts making the headlines
in F1 again in 2005
Jenson Button has gone on record again stating that he wants to remain with the BAR Honda squad next season as the outfit give him the best chance of ultimately fulfilling his dream of becoming F1 Champion.

Just a year ago the British driver was saying the same things about BMW Williams and hoped to join them for the current season. Despite wanting to drive for the Grove-based team, Button was forced to remain with BAR after a long drawn out saga involving the Contracts Recognition Board.

One year on and it’s a complete about turn, only this time it seems that Williams is the team with Jenson Button’s signature on a contract for 2006 and so far shown no sign of doing anything but holding Button to his contract with the team.

"I can understand Williams's situation, but Frank has to understand mine as well,” Button told Autosport. “To be competitive next year, any team has to be with a manufacturer that is fully involved. The position has changed a lot with Williams from last year. A racing drivers' career is short, so you have to make the best you can of it."


So with Williams still not having announced an engine deal for the 2006 season, Button believes that BAR represents his best opportunity.

"Honda buying in was a major part of me wanting to stay," Button stated. "It shows how serious they are about winning the World Championship. This is a big decision for me. It's not simply that I am changing my mind from year-to-year."

Williams will not have forgotten the shenanigans of 12-months ago, plus BAR’s refusal to allow test driver Anthony Davidson a contract release to race with the squad this year. It therefore seems unlikely that they will release Button from his contract with the team with any blessings.


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jackosimm
28-07-2005, 10:49 PM
Good news, I like his first quote, he has a great outlook on it:thumbsup:

TwEigh
29-07-2005, 05:35 AM
good news, but fire nick fry plz, he looks dodgy
and bring back David Richards

nEUROtic
29-07-2005, 01:55 PM
DR looks like he is gonna take over hyundai team if they buy samsung.

LUD02C
29-07-2005, 04:55 PM
BAR blew up the relationship with Dave Richards (idiots)
This could harm Jenson for finding future drives I think, He is always on the back foot never committing, even though I do understand what he is saying!

I heard today 5 of the 7 Michelin teams are in talks with Bridgestone for 2006. They are pissed about the US GP and I think McLaren and Renault getting extra attention I reckon.
Unfortunatly, It didn't say which 5 teams they were :(

WHo cares about Hyundai, I want VW F1 team, they just bought Proton and they just made the new Audi W12, bring on F1 VW

LUD02C
29-07-2005, 05:01 PM
Although a year ago Jenson Button would’ve done almost anything to rejoin Williams, he’s made it clear that he now wants nothing less, even going as far as to offer them £2 million to release him from his deal.

Button is once again in the midst of a contractual saga involving BAR and Williams as both teams want him to drive for them in 2006. Button, though, wants to stay with BAR because he believes they can realise his dream of being crowned F1’s World Champion.

And unfortunately for the 25-year-old it’s the other team who have his signature on a deal for next season.

He is, however, eager for Sir Frank Williams to let him out of the contract – and if words of reason don’t work, he’s willing to pay £2 million from his own pocket to help smooth the path.

“I want to be at BAR-Honda next year. I have spoken to Frank, I have spoken to him quite a bit about the situation and I am sure he will understand the reasons for me wanting to stay,” Button told The Times.

“I think a lot of people will understand. I hope the public will understand. I am sure the British public want a British driver in a team that can challenge for the World Championship.”

“I think we can find a solution and I think we have to — it would be better for everyone involved. I can’t say that it wasn’t my fault, I have to take the criticism, really. Maybe I should have read the small print, but a lot has changed and people can see that and why I want to stay at BAR.”

“I just want to be World Champion and the team to do that with will be BAR, I am sure of that, with the backing and commitment of Honda.”

The BAR driver is also hoping Sir Frank will see reason and realise having a driver who doesn’t want to be there will hinder and not help the team.

“I really can’t see why a team would want a driver who is not happy or wants to be somewhere else. I can’t see a reason why any team would want that. If they want me for my driving, it would be strange if I wanted to be with someone else. And I think Frank wants the best for me.”

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29-07-2005, 07:53 PM
Frank Williams goes on the offensive
'A deal is a deal. A contract is a contract'
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Williams not backing down over Button's
contract with the squad for 2006
After signing a contract with Williams to race with the team in 2006, Jenson Button's enthusiasm for the deal has diminished in recent months and the British racer now wants to stay put at BAR Honda. The problem for him and the team is the contract he signed with Williams last summer which allegedly gives the Grove-based squad first option on his services in 2006.

With Button claiming the contract with Williams is 'not binding' and that a team would not want a driver to join the team unless he was happy to do so, Frank Williams has gone on the offensive, claiming Button has a watertight contract with his team, one that will be honoured.

"A deal is a deal. A contract is a contract. I must explain that to Jenson," Williams told the Telegraph newspaper. "I have always believed that a signature on a contract is basically underlining a man's word given in honour. We have a proper and correct contract in place that will stand up to any examination."

Williams is clearly less than impressed with the British driver's stance that he has a better chance of winning a title with BAR Honda then with Williams and also questions Button’s decision making process.

"This demonstrates that when a driver says, 'Sorry, I've changed my mind', every time it suits him, there will be chaos in the paddock," Williams continued. "Sponsors will know that some teams don't keep their word as given in signed contracts. The same applies to drivers. A deal is a deal..."

After the debacle of last summer, it seems we are set for another tedious repeat of Jenson Button's contractual dramas.

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LUD02C
30-07-2005, 09:14 AM
I'm with Frank Williams on this.
A deal is a deal, and if a team goes through a minor rough spot you can't just "change your mind" and say no no no I want to stay with BAR-Honda (who to me are going to be a great team next year)

You don't see Schumacher running after a seat at Renault or McLaren!

^^v
30-07-2005, 12:25 PM
more on the button saga.....

as much as i'd like to see Button stay at BAR for next year, its not fair on Williams when they have a binding contract and suddenly the driver decides he doesnt wanna race for the team... would be nice if Williams agreed to get paid for not having him.. but ah well.... n rumour has it that Button him self personally offered Frank $3.5mil (i think US dollars not sure)



Button not for sale - Williams
Williams admits Button could go to court
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Button on his way to Williams for 2006?
Sir Frank Williams said today in Hungary that Jenson Button will not be able to get out of his contract with Williams for next year at any price. Williams claims his team have a 'fully binding and straightforward contract' to take Button from BAR Honda for next season after their rival team failed to meet a performance clause that would allow him to stay.

Button signed the deal last year after failing in an original attempt to switch for this season but has since changed his mind and decided he wants to stay with his current team.

"It is very straightforward, clear to understand. Jenson is part of our equipment to help us come back and we have a proper and correct legal right to expect him to be here," said Williams. "Jenson is emphatically, in capital letters, not for sale. We are a serious racing team and we need him. There needs to be a clearer understanding of the word commitment and I think he could be better advised."

Button has lost interest in moving to Williams after seeing the team struggle this season and, more vitally, probably lose their works engine contract with German manufacturers BMW for next season.


BAR have a long-term agreement with Honda, who own 45 percent of the team, and Button believes that they will be able to push him towards his maiden Grand Prix win and eventual world championship success.

He said here Thursday that he thought the Williams contract was not binding and that Williams probably understood that he needs to do the best thing to further his career which he claimed would be to stay at BAR. But Williams does not agree.

"I recognise that where he presently is the team is doing well to very well but next season is all change for everyone because there will be new engine designs," said Williams. "The order will almost certainly shuffle. We are a strong team with a strong past but a weak present. But we have a strong commitment to the future, we are very well resourced, as well as any team, and we will be back. We require him to be here because he is part of our plan and many of our sponsorships are dedicated on his presence, we have promised. You have to have law and order everywhere, especially in Formula One. We have to change his mind. He was very keen seven months ago to come here and now it is different. I recognise that we have not covered ourselves in glory but we will be back, we always come back."

Williams gave Button his Grand Prix debut in 2000 and paid for certain rights to him until 2004, when the contract lapsed and they created a new multi-year deal which does not include any fees until he joins as a race driver. Williams said he has yet to meet Button face to face over the issue, but has spoken with the Briton by telephone and requested a meeting, for which he is awaiting a response.

The issue went to the Contract Recognitions Board last year, where BAR won an ugly battle with Williams over Button's services and Williams confirmed he will go there again if necessary this year.

"I wasn't surprised about this and he has every right to (go to court)," said Williams. "But we will defend our interests. Formula One doesn't need this, but we are going to fight for him."

Williams said the identity of their 2006 engine suppliers will be known within two weeks and confirmed they could still remain with current partners BMW.

German manufacturer BMW decided in June to take over Sauber in preparation for a full entry as a team in their own right in 2006, putting their relationship with Williams in doubt. "We will be signing one contract in the next fortnight at the very most," Williams stated. "BMW want us to stay for another year and they have asked us to stay for one more year."

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the 2nd to last sentence is interesting..........................



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(GMM) One year ago, in Hungary, Jenson Button (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/driver/15/Jenson-Button/view.html) found a very icy reception in the BAR-Honda garage after announcing he wanted to drive for Williams (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/team/4/Williams/view.html) in 2005.

Now, even the 25-year-old Briton can see the irony in wanting to jump out of a Williams (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/team/4/Williams/view.html) contract to stay at BAR.

Spooked by Williams (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/team/4/Williams/view.html)' loss of works BMW support, JB says Brackley is now his best bet for a swift world championship.

So much has his attitude changed, that Button is actually questioning the 'binding' nature of his Grove deal.

''We don't think the (Williams (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/team/4/Williams/view.html)) contract is binding,'' he startlingly claimed.

Clearly, Sir Frank Williams (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/team/4/Williams/view.html) - who brought Jenson into F1 in 2000 - is not amused. ''A deal is a deal,'' the Englishman rasped, before questioning the racer's 'honour.'

''There is no turning back for me. There would be chaos ... if drivers were allowed to ignore contracts when it suits them.''

Button, however, made it clear he is not prepared to fight fire with anything other than fire. He didn't even rule out point-blank refusing to drive Williams (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/team/4/Williams/view.html)' car.

''I will fight this all the way,'' JB vowed

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30-07-2005, 12:28 PM
man its all happening at BAR... poor Sato.. a bit of bad luck and a poor performing car at the start of the season sees him be the only drive not to score points (excluding the new driver at Minardi).... personaly i'd like to see them give him one more year....



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(GMM) Speculation is rife that Takuma Sato (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/driver/11/Takuma-Sato/view.html) will be lucky to retain his BAR seat next year.

The Japanese, supported by team co-owner Honda, is frequently and comprehensively outpaced by teammate Jenson Button (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/driver/15/Jenson-Button/view.html), and is the only '05 driver except Robert Doornbos (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/driver/62/Robert-Doornbos/view.html) to have failed to score a single point.

At the same time, names like Rubens Barrichello (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/driver/3/Rubens-Barrichello/view.html), Nick Heidfeld (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/driver/8/Nick-Heidfeld/view.html) and Felipe Massa (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/driver/9/Felipe-Massa/view.html) are all potentially on the move and both BAR and Honda might agree that another established star is a better bet.

''It's been a tough season, no doubt about it,'' said Sato, 28.

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30-07-2005, 12:34 PM
http://formula-1.updatesport.com/news/content/gfxHeadline.php?text=Honda+reach+for+1000hp

Manufacturer's V10 farewell
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(GMM) Honda intend to give F1's V10 formula a rousing farewell in China by aiming to break the 1000hp barrier with a one-off engine.

''It's possible,'' the Japanese marque's Otmar Szafnauer told Autosport magazine.

With the power boost, Honda - co-owner of Jenson Button (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/driver/15/Jenson-Button/view.html)'s BAR team - hopes to fulfil the seemingly impossible pre-season team objective; to aim for 'race wins' in season '05.

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LUD02C
31-07-2005, 02:37 PM
I reckon they break 1000hp now.
Its just not on paper.

Sato should be gone, as much as I know you boys love him he makes stupid areas (much like Webber) and doesn't qualify well enough to be a threat.
I know he has had his bad luck and mechanical problems but so has Jenson.

I would love to see Massa in the BAR-Honda next year, or in a Ferrari.

LUD02C
31-07-2005, 07:28 PM
According to this thread
http://forum.planet-f1.com/index.php?t=msg&th=29428&start=0&Rubens has signed a 2 year deal with BAR-Honda already, I can't say I believe it.

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31-07-2005, 07:57 PM
Rubens Barrichello linked to BAR Honda
A two-year deal for the current Ferrari driver?
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Barrichello has been linked to BAR Honda
for some time now. Will he move?
Rubens Barrichello has been tipped for a move to BAR Honda after compatriot and former World Champion Nelson Piquet claimed the Ferrari driver has already inked a deal for next season.

Barrichello is contracted to Ferrari until the end of 2006 but rumours here in the Hungaroring paddock suggest he has been granted a release from his current deal and negotiated a move to last year's championship runners-up.

A breakdown earlier this year in relations between Barrichello and team-mate Michael Schumacher, to whom he has taken second best since he joined in 2000, started rumours that the 32-year-old was seeking an exit from the team. But only two days ago Barrichello denied that he is planning a move when, asked if he would be racing for Ferrari in 2006, he said: "Yeah, I have a contract for 2006 and I have nothing else to say."

BAR are unsure of their line-up for next season having seen Williams lay claim to lead driver Jenson Button after the Honda-powered team failed to meet the performance clause required to keep him. They are hoping to retain him for next season but Williams are determined to fight for him because they claim that sponsorship contracts have been agreed based on his racing for them in 2006.

If Barrichello has agreed a move it will open the door for a driver merry-go-round with Felipe Massa, long courted by Ferrari and a former test driver for them, tipped to leave Sauber and move to the Italian team.

Takuma Sato would also be in danger of being dropped if BAR are able to retain Button and bring in Barrichello, a move which would create their desired top-level driver line-up.

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LUD02C
31-07-2005, 09:06 PM
I can't believe he is still crying about being 2nd driver!
Every single team in that paddock has driver 1 and driver 2.
McLaren just haven't had the boys to tell either Juan or Kimi who is 1 and who is 2 :D

nEUROtic
31-07-2005, 09:22 PM
How about massa, I reckon he has done awesome this season. He should get a better drive next year. Up and coming talent. He is the next fisi, cept I think he will live up to his potential

TwEigh
01-08-2005, 03:55 AM
noooo poor Sato.. he just had a child.

man.. in the websites his status is always being "single". Now they say his child just born.. :rolleyes:

Vivski
02-08-2005, 12:23 AM
This wont be the end for Sato. IF he doesn't get a drive in F1 next season, I'm sure he'll get a cool drive in some form of car racing. He's a talented driver.

Williams has to stick to their guns with the Button issue. It would be tactically suicide to just give him back to BAR. At least make them fight for him. I reckon a lot will happen in the next 5 months. Honda looks strong with their new V8 engine, but who knows, maybe Williams will bounce back and be right at the top again. Just look at what happened at the start of this season.

I reckon Button in McLaren! Brit in a Brit team. He has the temperament for McLaren.

So Massa to Ferrari then and that leaves a seat at RBR-Ferrari. Valentino Rossi? :p

^^v
03-08-2005, 01:02 AM
Jenson Button clarifies the situation
Over his contract(s) at Williams
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Jenson wants to stay at BAR

Jenson Button has decided to release the following statement to clarify his contractual debate with team Williams and his plans for the 2006 season:

A meeting took place in the conference room at Williams' Grove headquarters at 12 o'clock on Tuesday 12 July 2005. This meeting was attended by Jenson Button personally, together with his manager, Richard Goddard. On the Williams side the meeting was attended by Sir Frank Williams, together with Patrick Head, as well as the Williams Chief Executive Officer Chris Chapple, the Williams Technical Director Sam Michael, and the Williams in-house lawyer John Healey.

The meeting lasted about 1 hour. During the course of the meeting Sir Frank Williams asked Jenson a specific question "From what you are saying it sounds like you don't wan to be here next season." To this Jenson replied "No I don't."

There is no question of there being a lack of clarity or misunderstanding on this point.


It has been suggested that Sir Frank Williams that a contract between Jenson Button and Williams (and there remain outstanding questions to its validity) was signed 7 months ago, which would be in January of this year. This is incorrect. There are two documents which are relevant, one dated August 2004, and one dated September 2004.

Quotes have also been attributed in the media to Sir Frank Williams to say that Williams paid a substantial amount in option money on Jenson in 2001, 2002, 2003 and 2004. Again, to set the record straight, the facts are as follows:

Payments made were not payments made by Williams to retain an option over Jenson's services. In fact the payments were quite the opposite. The were payments made by Williams to Jenson in exchange for Jenson agreeing not to enforce a contract which he had entitling him to drive for Williams.

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^^v
03-08-2005, 08:40 AM
Massa thrilled to join Ferrari
'The best opportunity of my career'
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Massa in red, back in 2004
Ferrari announced today that Rubens Barrichello will not drive for them in 2006. The Brazilian will be replaced by his fellow countryman Felipe Massa, who is driving for Sauber this season.

Massa, a former Ferrari test driver who is managed by Nicolas Todt, son of Ferrari boss Jean Todt, said he was up for the challenge of stepping in to replace Barrichello.

"I feel ready for this new challenge, which is the best opportunity of my career. I am aware of the responsibility it places on me and I cannot wait to be part of a team like Ferrari, alongside the best driver in the world, Michael Schumacher," he said on his website.

"Maranello has believed in me since 2001, when I had yet to make my Formula 1 debut. Now, I am in my third season as a Sauber driver and I can also count on a years experience as a Ferrari test driver, an experience which helped me to grow a great deal."

The 24-year-old, who is lying 13th in the drivers' standings with eight points, added: "I wish to thank Peter Sauber for having had faith in me over these past three years. I will do my very best in the final six races of the season to get the best possible results for his team."

H.G.
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TwEigh
03-08-2005, 04:36 PM
massa is gay and ferrari just want to hire cheap driver

jackosimm
03-08-2005, 06:27 PM
hmmm shall be interesting to see what he is capable of!

TwEigh
03-08-2005, 07:29 PM
btw from above picture, he looks bit like fisichella

^^v
03-08-2005, 07:46 PM
0_o



Rossi back in the Ferrari
MotoGP star testing again with the Italian Champions
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Ferrari run Rossi again at Fiorano
Valentino Rossi was in action for the Ferrari team yesterday at Fiorano a day after agreeing terms to remain with Yamaha in MotoGP for the 2006 season.

At the wheel of a F2004 chassis, the six-time MotoGP Champion, tested at the Ferrari test facility and as yet, neither Ferrari nor Rossi has made a comment on the purpose of the test.

With a contract in place for 2006, it remains a bit of a mystery as to why Ferrari would be testing Rossi for the first time in over a year unless of course they are evaluating his services for a potential role with the team in 2007.

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kenshin
03-08-2005, 08:04 PM
massa is gay and ferrari just want to hire cheap driver

thanks for letting us know... i'll shy away if he starts stroking my leg..

jackosimm
03-08-2005, 08:42 PM
hahahaha that was golden kenshin!

Interesting about Rossi, and yes a good point about what the reason of that was? And the fact there not making comments makes it seem a little suspicious. Rossi Schumacher combination! lol

nEUROtic
03-08-2005, 08:58 PM
How about massa, I reckon he has done awesome this season. He should get a better drive next year. Up and coming talent. He is the next fisi, cept I think he will live up to his potential


Jesus I'm good. Officially announced @ Ferrari today. Which also means RUBES on the move. Totally to BAR i reckon

angelblue
03-08-2005, 09:15 PM
:wave: nEUROtic, we shall see how good you really are ;) Although you could be on the right track but only time will tell.

nEUROtic
03-08-2005, 09:32 PM
http://www.big-boys.com/pictures/picture1330.html

No wonder schumi is smiling, sus ****....

^^v
03-08-2005, 09:35 PM
ahahaha look at rubens... 2nd best even to Bernie.. :rolleyes:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/riceisyum/sports1.jpg

angelblue
03-08-2005, 09:40 PM
They all look like they are having a jolly good time. Perhaps Rubes is waiting patiently for his go.

jackosimm
03-08-2005, 10:09 PM
No wonder schumi is smiling, sus ****....

Im actually more worried about the grin coming from bernie, he's gettin much more enjoyment from it

^^v
04-08-2005, 07:47 PM
http://formula-1.updatesport.com/news/content/gfxHeadline.php?text=Button+threatens+sabbatical
If forced to move to Williams
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(GMM) Jenson Button (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/driver/15/Jenson-Button/view.html) has reportedly fired a warning at Frank Williams (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/team/4/Williams/view.html) -- let me stay at BAR, or I'll spend the year on the F1 bench.

F1 impresario Bernie Ecclestone rubbished the suggestion as media mischief-making.

''There's no danger of that happening,'' the 74-year-old billionaire told the Mirror newspaper.

He said: ''He has a contract. We need a British driver in F1.''

25-year-old Button's warning is evidently in reaction to Williams (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/team/4/Williams/view.html)' stated intention to haul the Englishman back to Grove, even against his wishes.

JB's current boss, BAR principal Nick Fry, may be about to lose his man, but the clichés keep coming -- the contractual adversity, Fry said, is making Jenson 'stronger.'

''People who take a few knocks often come out the stronger,'' the Briton added.

Fry urged the public and media to cut Button, who drove the 'maglev' train in Shanghai at 430kmh on Wednesday, a little bit of slack after also bungling his contracts last year and appearing disloyal and fickle.

''He's a race car driver,'' said Nick. ''I think it's very harsh to point the finger.''

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nEUROtic
05-08-2005, 12:14 PM
How bored are we all gonna be for the next three weeks. Its gonna be SOOOOO gay. Gotta watch for controversy with contracts, thats the only source of excitement.

*Sigh*


52 races a year I say!

^^v
05-08-2005, 02:08 PM
How bored are we all gonna be for the next three weeks. Its gonna be SOOOOO gay. Gotta watch for controversy with contracts, thats the only source of excitement.

*Sigh*


52 races a year I say!

ahaha.. agreed
esp when there've been quite a few back to back rounds... u get use to it being on every week....

^^v
09-08-2005, 07:13 PM
Fisichella and Webber to swap teams?
More rumours as the silly-season hots up
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Will these two racers remain put in 2006?
Giancarlo Fisichella started the season in style by winning the opening round of the 2005 Championship in Melbourne, but since then the Italian has been overshadowed by team-mate Fernando Alonso. Speculation now has it that Fisichella could be on his way from Renault to make room for Mark Webber according to Speed.

Webber, like Fisichella, has had something of a trying season to date. Joining BMW Williams at the start of the season many pundits were predicting that the Australian racer would be challenging for race wins and even the title this year. However, after 13 rounds of the championship Webber has just one podium position to his credit.

Webber of course is still managed by Flavio Briatore and the management of Williams are reportedly unhappy with Webber’s race performances in the troublesome FW27 this year compared to those of team-mate Nick Heidfeld.

This time last year it was mooted that Fisichella would be on his way to Williams for the 2005 season, but Renault signed the Italian to partner Alonso after they dropped Jarno Trulli mid-season. Anything is possible in Formula One and certainly Fisichella and Webber have had a disappointing season as attention now switches from the current campaign to the 2006 programme.

With the Jenson Button Williams/BAR saga seemingly set to drag on for some time, the 2006 driver lineup at Williams remains one of rumour and speculation.

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jackosimm
09-08-2005, 07:52 PM
now theres something to gossip about! Christ would they swap so soon?

LUD02C
09-08-2005, 08:53 PM
I British guy at work told me Fisichella is on his way, about 2-3 weeks ago I thought he was crazy!

I couldn't see Mark going there, I know he had the chance when joined Williams but I think he'll stay there.

jackosimm
09-08-2005, 09:01 PM
There has been some unfair calls about Mark too, partly to blame is bmw and williams, however Webber's taken a bit of a bashing too

nEUROtic
10-08-2005, 01:24 PM
One overated driver swapping for another, and the lesser of 2 team mates. I don't see either teams motivation for this move.

Highly unlikely is my judgement.

LUD02C
11-08-2005, 07:39 PM
Ferrari tested their 2006 V8 engine for the first time at Fiorano on Tuesday.

Test driver Marc Gene was given the honour of driving the modified F2004, which was equipped with the new engine.

He completed 38 laps, eight of them on the short version of the track, setting a best time of 59.966 seconds.

The reigning F1 Champions are the latest team to test a 2.4 litre V8 engine, which will replace the 3.0 litre V10 format at the end of this season.

Honda, Toyota and BMW were the first, running their engines during the Jerez test in July.



Former World Champion Mika Hakkinen doesn’t think Fernando Alonso or Kimi Raikkonen will ever be able to dominate Formula One the way Michael Schumacher has done.

Michael Schumacher may not be having a great season thus far but his former rival, Mika Hakkinen, still believes he is the greatest Formula One driver ever.

While Hakkinen was often involved in heated battles with Schumacher on the race track the Finn has always got on well with Schumacher and has great respect for the seven time World Champion.

Schumacher’s achievements in Formula One are unrivalled and the 1998 and 1999 F1 Champions doesn’t believe there will ever be somebody with a record that comes close to it.

“I don’t think anyone will be able to do what Michael has.” said Hakkinen to Autosport

“Michael has made his mark in F1 for so long.”

Despite the fact that Fernando Alonso and Kimi Räikkönen are challenging for the title this year Hakkinen doesn’t see either of them being able to challenge the German drivers record at the end of their careers.

“When I retired he started winning non-stop. I doubt anyone will be able to repeat what he has done - neither Alonso nor Räikkönen can come close.”

jackosimm
11-08-2005, 08:56 PM
thank you Mika, thank YOU MIKA, THANK YOU MIKA!!!!!!
ah that is nice to no lol. What sort of times roughly were they punching out at Fiorano before jase?

nEUROtic
11-08-2005, 10:19 PM
He would say that, he is a loser lol.

I like this

“When I retired he started winning non-stop."

like HE was the only one that could beat him.

I dont reckon its possible to see a domination like that again either, mainly becoz of the "more competitive" formula one mindset and rules implementations. Alonso, definately cant hold a candle to the guy. But kimi will be his successor. He mighten win seven, but definately a few.

^^v
12-08-2005, 05:49 PM
i guess BAR r the team to be with next season... so many rumours concerning the team for next season...



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German to switch British squads
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(GMM) Speculation is rife that Nick Heidfeld (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/driver/8/Nick-Heidfeld/view.html), a revelation of 2005, will soon set a course for Brackley to sign a provisional 2006 contract for BAR.

Williams (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/team/4/Williams/view.html)' current star, easily a match - if not Grove team leader - for highly rated teammate Mark Webber (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/driver/20/Mark-Webber/view.html), will reportedly switch to take the seat alongside the also-unconfirmed Rubens Barrichello (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/driver/3/Rubens-Barrichello/view.html), despite equally strong gossip of a BMW-Sauber (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/team/5/Sauber/view.html) move.

Williams (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/team/4/Williams/view.html)-contracted Jenson Button (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/driver/15/Jenson-Button/view.html)'s move, although he doesn't want to go, makes room, to the detriment of '05 BAR teammate, Japan's Takuma Sato (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/driver/11/Takuma-Sato/view.html).

The little German's switch, though - like Button - could be scuppered by Sir Frank Williams (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/team/4/Williams/view.html), who is believed to own a watertight 'option' on Heidfeld's service for next year.

'Quick Nick', however, can probably rest easy. It appears that disappointing Renault (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/team/8/Renault/view.html) driver Giancarlo Fisichella (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/driver/10/Giancarlo-Fisichella/view.html) is en route to Grove, in a swap that could see Webber fill his blue boots.

Williams (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/team/4/Williams/view.html)' Heidfeld option reportedly runs out next month.


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LUD02C
13-08-2005, 05:07 PM
I was speaking to a friend of mine, who works with a damm good friend of Mark Webbers. Now he was saying that Fablio isn't happy with Fisichella at all, and Fisichella is sick of the one sided Renault team and that Webber and Frank Williams aren't seeing eye to eye.

Thats how the rumor of the "switch" came about.
Now, what I was told is that Fablio likes Webber attitude and Frank would like Fisichella.

He just said this to me "Don't be to shocked if they swap in the near to distant future"

Now, don't take to much away from this, as I said its a friend of a friend so you never know.
But Webber did live behind my cousin for over 10 years :)

Oh that and he said "Williams sold within a few years"
Can't say I believe it all, thought I'd shareit with you!

Heinfeld to BAR
Good idea I think, I just hope BMW hammer Williams and Toyota.

jackosimm
13-08-2005, 05:53 PM
too many rumours for brain to handle! So a swap in the not to distant future, your referring to before seasons end?

Petronas
13-08-2005, 07:19 PM
massa is gay and ferrari just want to hire cheap driver

No, Massa is a stand in for 1 year.... Ferrari want to lure Alonso for 2007, If Shumi retires ( highly likly)

i'll post the link for the article another time. I have to find it 1st.

jackosimm
13-08-2005, 08:04 PM
I look forward to reading that one. Can you remember where it came from?

civ_sik
14-08-2005, 08:46 PM
omg...

Petronas
14-08-2005, 09:40 PM
I look forward to reading that one. Can you remember where it came from?

Its only speculation, And the website seemed to have removed the article for some reason.... Or i just cant find it....

TwEigh
14-08-2005, 09:53 PM
or u made that up?

here you go
http://formula-1.updatesport.com/news/article/1123742757/formula_one/F1gossip/Ferrari-future-for-Alonso/view.html

Petronas
14-08-2005, 09:56 PM
or u made that up?

here you go
http://formula-1.updatesport.com/news/article/1123742757/formula_one/F1gossip/Ferrari-future-for-Alonso/view.html
No I didnt make it up, The article was speculating all options of what was going to happen in 2006 and 2007 with driver changes.... And they speculated that Massa was just a stand in for 2006 until in 2007 Shumi retires and they can haul in Alonso and Kimi or one of them + someone other than Massa.

TwEigh
15-08-2005, 12:09 AM
I know.. :) that is why i gave u that link

^^v
15-08-2005, 12:13 AM
faaaaaaaaaark .. 6 more days to go...
hurry the fark up :!:

Petronas
15-08-2005, 08:11 AM
or u made that up?
Found it,
http://www.planet-f1.com/features/editorial/story_20602.shtml

jackosimm
15-08-2005, 12:30 PM
Ill have to check these out when I get home, I know its only speculation, however very interesting at that.

LUD02C
15-08-2005, 03:55 PM
Alonso to Ferrari?
Maybe, but the Renault will have to have a worse season then BMW-Williams now for Alonso to leave, and Kimi (going by every other Fin) seem to be loyal to one main team.

2007 driver line up will be interesting.

jackosimm
15-08-2005, 07:50 PM
God all these rumours are frustrating! They all seem to contradict each other and consequently rule out other rumours. Ahhhh.

Petronas
15-08-2005, 07:51 PM
You gotta love the world of Formula One ay? lol

jackosimm
15-08-2005, 07:57 PM
I really dont no why I keep coming back to it lol, painfully agonising thing it really is:p

kenshin
15-08-2005, 08:06 PM
Alonso to Ferrari?
Maybe, but the Renault will have to have a worse season then BMW-Williams now for Alonso to leave, and Kimi (going by every other Fin) seem to be loyal to one main team.

2007 driver line up will be interesting.

even one's paitence starts to wear thin when the car just falls apart half way into the race and u've lapped half the field...

that must be frustrating to say the least...

^^v
15-08-2005, 11:46 PM
as expected Williams have signed up cosworth for next season...



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Williams and Cosworth announce new deal
V8 Cosworth power for Williams in 2006
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A new chapter for Williams with Cosworth
After months of rumour and speculation, WilliamsF1 and Cosworth today announced a wide-ranging partnership agreement for the provision and development of V8 engines for WilliamsF1’s entry in the Formula One World Championship.

The partnership is not based on a traditional engine supply agreement; both WilliamsF1 and Cosworth will invest in the programme, underlining both parties’ commitment to success. Moreover, the scope of the collaboration includes not just the engine as an isolated element of a race car, but extends to a complete programme of design and development of the entire drivetrain package (spanning engine, transmission, ass

ociated electronics, software and installation architecture). WilliamsF1 has conducted a thorough assessment of the various partnership options available for next season and has been delighted to conclude that the depth of Cosworth knowledge and expertise in V8 development clearly presents the most competitive opportunity for the team and its sponsors.

Cosworth is well advanced in the development of its Formula One V8 engine, having routinely exceeded 20,000 rpm during dyno testing since April 2005 at its Northampton headquarters. The two British companies which are separated by 36 miles, both have distinguished pedigrees in their respective spheres. Together they aim to put British excellence at the front of the Formula One grid next season.


Frank Williams, WilliamsF1’s Team Principal
“Cosworth is a leading global authority on V8 engine technology. Next year is a brand new start for all concerned given 16 years of V10 engines. Some teams and manufacturers have absolutely no experience of V8s while others enjoy only limited experience. Cosworth, however, have excelled both historically, as well as in contemporary V8-powered international motorsport. The evidence of Cosworth’s V8 progress we have seen so far validates completely the expectation we have of enjoying a class-leading package given next season’s engine rule changes.”

Tim Routsis, Cosworth’s CEO
“Our experience and track record with V8 engines is unrivalled and we are naturally delighted to be alongside one of the most uncompromising and pure-spirited teams in Formula One. We have been working on the development of next year’s V8 since April 2004 and right from the onset, our performance targets have been set very aggressively. We are confident that our blue-chip partnership with WilliamsF1 can augment the record of winning the championship every decade since the 1960s. We have developed the 2006 Cosworth V8-CA engine with nothing but front-running success in mind for both the near and long-term. The involvement of Cosworth’s sister company, Pi, has been instrumental in achieving this outcome.”

Patrick Head, WilliamsF1’s Director of Engineering
“Williams has made this partnership decision purely on technical merit. Among the range of options we considered, Cosworth are very well advanced with existing development and are committed to taking the potential of this collaboration further. Our engineers have already reflected on the very productive and highly motivated nature of the relationship between our two organisations. We speak the same racing language and both have something to prove next year and there can be no greater motivation to succeed.”

E.A.
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Petronas
16-08-2005, 08:47 AM
Good News! Lets hope Webber can Win a Race Next Year

jackosimm
16-08-2005, 01:26 PM
Dont forget this year too!

LUD02C
16-08-2005, 05:42 PM
That Cosworth will be the biggest surprise next year.
Followed by the return of Ferrari
Renault will be Mclaren of last year.

^^v
16-08-2005, 07:05 PM
06 should be an interesting season indeed!



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Rubens Barrichello confirmed at BAR
Aiming for race wins and the title with BAR Honda
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A multi-year deal for Barrichello at BAR
BAR Honda announced this morning that Rubens Barrichello will be joining the team in a multi-year deal from 2006.

Barrichello joins BAR Honda from Scuderia Ferrari where he has been part of the team which has won five Formula One Constructors' World Championships in the last five years.

Since his F1 debut in 1993, Rubens has driven for Stewart Grand Prix, Jordan and Ferrari, and amassed 482 Drivers' Championship points from his participation in 212 grands prix. Rubens has won nine races and has scored 61 podium positions.

Rubens Barrichello
"I am very excited to confirm that I will be joining BAR Honda in 2006. I wish to thank everyone at Ferrari for six fantastic years. I have won many races with them and I am proud to have helped the team, to date, to win five Constructors' World Championships."

"However my target remains winning the Drivers' title and to achieve that I felt that I needed a renewed motivation. I have been watching BAR Honda's progress for some time and have been struck by the spirit and determination of a team that has all the right ingredients to win races and go on to win World Championships. I can't think of anything more exciting than working with the team and Honda to achieve our shared ambitions together. Obviously I have a job to do at Ferrari until the end of the season, but I am very happy about the fantastic times that I know still lie ahead."


Nick Fry, BAR Honda Chief Executive Officer
"Signing Rubens represents another exciting milestone in BAR Honda's development and in Rubens' own career. This is a strong and successful team that is determined to achieve its World Championship ambitions and we are confident that these will be realised soon."

"Rubens is not only an excellent driver, but he has the experience of building a race and Championship winning team and these skills are very important as we work to take BAR Honda to the next level. The fact that we have developed so quickly to become an attractive proposition to drivers of Rubens' standing is a fantastic credit to the team. We are delighted that Rubens recognises our enormous potential and wishes to help us realise our dream in the not too distant future. I would also like to thank Ferrari for all of their cooperation in allowing Rubens to join us next year."

Yasuhiro Wada, President, Honda Racing Development
"BAR Honda are very much looking forward to working with a driver of the experience and talent of Rubens Barrichello. We are sure that the proven track record Rubens brings with him will be of great benefit toward achieving our goal of winning the F1 World Championship."

E.A.
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7th Gen
16-08-2005, 10:01 PM
a case of too many drivers, not enough seats at BAR?
barrichello, button, sato and davidson?

depending on how the button saga turns out

but i really can't see Honda dropping sato? think of all the lost marketing opportunities, esp in ASIA :D

TwEigh
16-08-2005, 10:27 PM
if button happen to stay at BAR, who will be 1st driver? button or barrichello?

Petronas
16-08-2005, 11:01 PM
if button happen to stay at BAR, who will be 1st driver? button or barrichello?
Probably Button, Because he the young and so called "Future Champion" In the eyes of BAR, Barachello is just another person to get some wins

LUD02C
17-08-2005, 08:11 PM
I think Sato could be in some trouble.
I have no doubt in my mind that Button has to go to WIlliams, but with Rubens (heaps of setup, race preperation and testing knowledge) Sato will still be 2nd driver.

BAR-Honda to me next year will be a sort after team, I can't see them "holding" Sato to market in Asia.
F1 is already so much more popular in Asia due to more races/coverage there, not because of the 2 minutes a race they see of Sato retirering! :D

Davidson, Heidfeld and some others could get a seat.
I'd personally go Davidson.

jackosimm
18-08-2005, 08:16 PM
thats a good point about Sato, best case scenario is with BAR as a second driver to Rubens.
I wonder how Rubens will find this change in position, going from second position(Jesus) behind Michael(God)?

^^v
18-08-2005, 09:11 PM
i say giv sato one more season to prove himself...
if he doesnt post some decent results during 06... drop him no questions asked...

jackosimm
18-08-2005, 10:52 PM
Hmmm he hasnt been able to produce the goods yet, your way if definitly the fairest, but is F1 going to be that fair on him lol?

7th Gen
18-08-2005, 11:00 PM
anyone can confirm that button has gone to williams in 06?

nothing on f1.com or BAR or williams sites

kenshin
18-08-2005, 11:14 PM
how can anyone confirm when button himself is in limbo...

poor bastard... back of his head i think he knows he'll be goin to williams cosworth...

sato is good... rotten luck + dumb mistakes is going to cost him his seat
although being japanese is in his favour, honda would most definately prefer race wins/point results over potential advertising $$$ imo...

barrichello will be consistant and will score points for the team in 06 (providing the car isnt a lemon)

jackosimm
18-08-2005, 11:32 PM
[anyone can confirm that button has gone to williams in 06?

nothing on f1.com or BAR or williams sites[/QUOTE]




Jenson has confirmed he will be driving for Williams in 2006, BAR-Honda want Nick Heldfeld (read it today)



;)

Petronas
19-08-2005, 08:05 AM
Is it just me or is Webbers status going slowly down the drain? No one really talks that highly of this anymore since moving from Jaguar. Same as Fisi, his repp is totally gone now. How did these 2 peoples repps go down the drain so fast?

Even Rubens repp is still intact, even after kissing Shumis ass for 6 years.

jackosimm
19-08-2005, 10:00 AM
Im finding there has been much more publicity since his move to BMW Williams, just of recent theres a vibe of doubt with his preformances this year is my opinion.

^^v
19-08-2005, 01:28 PM
anyone can confirm that button has gone to williams in 06?

nothing on f1.com or BAR or williams sites

nothings been confirmed yet as far as i know
but the chances of Button going to williams is lik 95%
its just a matter of time


...
sato is good... rotten luck + dumb mistakes is going to cost him his seat
although being japanese is in his favour, honda would most definately prefer race wins/point results over potential advertising $$$ imo...


agreed...

^^v
19-08-2005, 01:32 PM
http://formula-1.updatesport.com/news/content/gfxHeadline.php?text=Button+lays+plans+for+BAR+fut ure
Briton involved in driver choice
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(GMM) BAR presented a list of potential 2006 drivers to Jenson Button (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/driver/15/Jenson-Button/view.html), the Brackley based formula one team has revealed.

Even though the English star is likely to be forced to honour his earlier commitment to Williams (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/team/4/Williams/view.html) next year, BAR wanted the 25-year-old to have a say on who might have been his new teammate next year.

''Rubens (Barrichello) got his full approval,'' the Honda co-owned team's 'CEO' Nick Fry told Autosport. ''As far as Rubens was concerned, Jenson was very positive.''

With the Button-Barrichello 'dream team' spelled out, then, the future is looking bleak for BAR's current Japanese star Takuma Sato (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/driver/11/Takuma-Sato/view.html), who has enjoyed Honda support.

With Button almost certainly to depart, a key racing seat - with Williams (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/team/4/Williams/view.html)' Nick Heidfeld (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/driver/8/Nick-Heidfeld/view.html) reportedly top of the list - is therefore available. Fry, though, confirmed he has also spoken to 'a number of (other) drivers' about the probable vacancy.


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LUD02C
19-08-2005, 03:20 PM
I read in Motorsport news Weekly that BAR-Honda has "given up" so to say and Button will be honoring his Williams contract for 2006.

Webber's reputation hasn't gone down the drain, Renault want him, BMW-Williams want him. Two strong teams that have a future in F1.

I'm still going with Heldfeld & Barrichello for 06 in a BAR-Honda!

Vivski
19-08-2005, 05:05 PM
If Heidfeld goes to BAR, then who will drive the Williams?

Time is running out for these shenanigans. How are BAR going to get Button? It's nearly impossible now. They'll have to make Williams an offer they can't refuse and now an engine deal is out of the questions, 'cos Williams have teamed up with Cosworth.
As far as Williams being sold in the next 5 years, I can certainly see that happening. Frank is getting on a bit and I'm sure there are some other things he'd like to do.

Fisi and Webber swap?! I'll believe it when I see it. They'd both be nuts. Who knows how well Williams will bounce back next year with a new engine? And the engine is the best part of the Renault (understeery little b!atch), but there will be a completely new engine next season, so who knows? If I were either of them, I'd stay put until 2007.

Massa to Ferrari... there's no better measure for how good a driver is than putting them up against the master. We'll see how good Massa really is next year. I don't think he has the raw pace, but he seems pretty consistent and has a good temperament, so maybe he's championship material.

Vivski
19-08-2005, 05:48 PM
I can't decide who I'd like to see at BAR next season. Sato has had his time and it doesn't look like he's got the out and out pace to be champion. So maybe try Davidson?

So lets say Button to Williams. That means there's not enough room for both Heidfeld and Webber. What happened to the Heidfeld to Sauber (BMW) rumours? Now that Massa's gone, that leaves the door open for Heidfeld. And Williams would probably be happy to keep Webber.

^^v
20-08-2005, 02:48 AM
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points in the remaining six races of the year
Takuma Sato has been handed six races to save his seat at BAR Honda and must start to prove his worth in Sunday's Turkish Grand Prix, Nick Fry said today. Sato, 28, who partners Jenson Button, has raced for the team for the last two years but only scored his first point of a difficult season at the last race in Hungary.

BAR have signed current Ferrari driver Rubens Barrichello for 2006. "Takuma has from now to the end of the season to demonstrate that he can prove he can perform at a strong level," said Fry. "We hope he can, because he is an excellent team member and as a person we like him a lot. But this is a business and a high level sport and if he can't prove that to us we will obviously have to consider other alternatives."

Barrichello's arrival means one of the drivers in the current line- up is certain to lose his drive and Jenson Button is currently favourite to go because of a deal he signed with rivals Williams at the end of last year. If he succeeds in fighting his way out of that contract he is certain to partner Barrichello, but Fry admitted that if the Briton moves to Williams then Sato's race drive status will still not be guaranteed.


"The situation is very simple in lots of ways," said Fry. "If Jenson stays there won't be a race seat with Takuma, you don't need to be a mathematician to work that out, we have two race seats and two great drivers. Whether Takuma stays with the team after that we will see, I think it is as much his decision as ours whether he would want to stay as a third driver, we could discuss it."

"If Jenson goes then there are no guarantees for Takuma. We have talked to more drivers than I can remember, to be honest, and we are not short of alternatives."

One possibility would be to promote highly-rated test driver Anthony Davidson into a race role after the Briton's patient multi-year wait, but his long-term contract is soon to run out and he is in talks with Jordan and BMW.

Fry admitted that Davidson was 'in with a good chance' of securing a seat and also confirmed that there have been talks with Williams driver Nick Heidfeld over a possible move. But he admitted: "At the moment our complete focus is on getting Jenson and helping him as much as we can with that. The alternatives are ones that we don't want to consider because we want Jenson."

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TwEigh
20-08-2005, 03:03 AM
Nick Fry... everytime i look at him on tv, make me want to fry him on my stove

Vivski
20-08-2005, 03:25 AM
Good face for radio?

LUD02C
20-08-2005, 07:06 PM
Sato fans, please justify to me why he should keep the seat?
Others in worse team do better them him.
Heldfeld, Coulthard, Massa etc.
And you can't just use "mechanical failure" as a reason, thats only been what 3-4 times this year?

TwEigh
20-08-2005, 07:29 PM
dunno hey, I dont know why I like him.. maybe combination of him as japanese and Honda as a japanese manufacturer

also we are his fans and ofcourse we want him to be on the race :D no matter how badly he is doing.. as long as he is a japanese and he is in honda :)

jackosimm
21-08-2005, 07:18 PM
Its weird though, I feel in no way the same about Webber that you and other Sato fans feel for him.

Vivski
22-08-2005, 01:41 AM
Sato in Honda is like Fisi in Renault and Barichello in Ferrari. They all show good pace but somehow they end up underachieving. They do well and then something happens and the car breaks or they get taken out or make a mistake.

Definitely time to give someone else a go in the Honda. That thing's starting to look like a bit of a weapon. Kinda making the same progress they made at the end of last season.

jackosimm
22-08-2005, 08:40 AM
In my view, Fisi and Rubens are doing far better than Sato in comparison. He just doesn't seem to get anywhere to begin with.

^^v
26-08-2005, 01:57 PM
Ron Dennis also denies they're in talks with Michael for a drive at mclaren...



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McLaren driver Kimi Raikkonen on Thursday pledged his future to the British Formula One stable, pouring cold water on reports he had signed a contract for rivals Ferrari.

"There's no doubt we have the fastest package, I'm winning races and I'm feeling well in the team, so why would I even consider changing teams?"

Raikkonen said after a report in Germany's Bild newspaper that the Finn had signed a precontract to race for Ferrari in 2007.

"Surely, I'm in a position most of Formula One drivers want to be in," said Raikkonen. "I want to win races and world championships with McLaren. Ever since I came into Formula One, there have been speculations about my future, so there is nothing new for me. As I've said many times, I'm completely happy with my team."

McLaren boss Ron Dennis said Raikkonen and fellow team driver Juan Pablo Montoya were there to stay.

"McLaren is locked in a battle for the drivers and manufacturers championships and everybody in the team from the drivers to the mechanics is 100 percent focused on this.

"We anticipate long term relationships with both Kimi and Juan Pablo and consequently, the team is not in negociations with any other driver, including Michael Schumacher," concluded Ron Dennis.

Source AFP


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jackosimm
26-08-2005, 02:49 PM
clears up some rumours then doesnt it

^^v
28-08-2005, 01:27 AM
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Schumacher ‘no problem’ with Raikkonen
As his team-mate at Ferrari in 2007
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Could they be team-mates in 2007 at Ferrari?
Germany's seven-time Formula One world champion Michael Schumacher claims he is not opposed to having Finnish driver Kimi Raikkonen as his Ferrari team partner for the 2007 season.

The 36-year-old Schumacher has always been the undisputed number one with the Italian team - with a lesser known driver providing back-up rather than competition - but he insists he would not be afraid of having the capable Raikkonen as his Ferrari wing man.

"I would have no problem driving with him (Raikkonen) at Ferrari," Schumacher said in the Berliner Morgenpost.

Mercedes star Raikkonen, 25, recently denied a report in German newspaper Bild that he had signed a pre-contract to race for Ferrari in 2007. It is still unclear whether Schumacher plans to continue racing in 2007 with his manager Willi Weber revealing a decision would not be made until early 2006.

"Michael will decide between March and April 2006 whether he will drive in 2007," Weber informed Bild daily.


Schumacher lies 40 points behind Spaniard Fernando Alonso in the world championship standings but insists he is not angling for a move from Ferrari when his contract expires in 2006.

"I want to state that I am still happy at Ferrari regardless of the results at the moment," Schumacher told his homepage www.michael-schumacher.rtl.de (http://www.michael-schumacher.rtl.de/). "I am also not thinking of leaving Ferrari and joining another team. To be honest I do not know how often I have said that but nothing changes."

Schumacher was recently linked with a move to McLaren - where he would link up with Raikkonen - after meeting with the team's sporting chief Norbert Haug.

Source AFP
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Vivski
28-08-2005, 03:37 PM
"I would have no problem driving with him (Raikkonen) at Ferrari,"What they chopped off the end... "as long as he abides by the Ferrari team orders." :D

LUD02C
28-08-2005, 07:57 PM
What they chopped off the end... "as long as he abides by the Ferrari team orders." :D

Same goes for those dogs at Renault.
"Alonso, your faster then Fisichella overtake him"

I was so angry, Fisichella needs a good race finish, but Renault seem to be his enermy. Stuff up his pit stops, let Alonso through, try new aero or mech and it turns unreliable.

LUD02C
29-08-2005, 04:34 PM
Scott Speed is set to become the first American driver employed full-time by a Formula 1 team since Michael Andretti’s 1993 stint with McLaren, when Red Bull Racing announces him as an official test driver during the upcoming Italian GP weekend.

The fact that the Californian is also running Team USA’s A1GP car in this week’s Paul Ricard test sessions, however, prompted doubts about his availability to perform double duty as an F1 tester and A1 racer during the winter months.

But RBR has confirmed this Friday that Speed’s A1 involvement is in both parties’ best interest.

"It will be good for him to be busy over the winter and get more experience," Red Bull officials told Autosport-Atlas.

The inaugural A1 season, set to kick off on September 25 at Brands Hatch in England, does not conflict with Speed’s GP2 commitments either. The Californian put Team USA on top of the timesheets on both the Wednesday and Thursday sessions at Ricard

LUD02C
29-08-2005, 08:06 PM
The Formula 1 team bosses met in Turkey to try to work out what to do about qualifying next year and the opinions seem to be somewhat split, unusual in this age of detente, although the general feeling now appears to be to maintain the status quo with one or two modifications. The problem is that at the moment the team bosses do not agree on what to do to spice things up now that it is too late for the designers to change their cars for next year.

There seems to be a movement towards an arrangement in which the qualifying order on Saturday would be established with a session which would see the cars running with low fuel and new tyres. This would probably be on Friday afternoon but could also be the fourth session on Saturday. The running order for this session would be established based not on the result of the last race but rather on the championship positions at that moment, obviously reversed so that the slower cars ran first.

Qualifying would remain as it is on Saturday afternoon with the cars running once again with race tyres and fuel loads. This would mean that drivers would get a chance to run the cars as fast as they will go, which would keep fans happy rather than having qualifying sessions which are fundamentally meaningless. It would also offer the teams more chance to calculate the fuel loads of the rival cars.

The teams are currently going through the process of trying to decide what they want and this will then be presented to FIA President Max Mosley when everyone gets together on August 31 at the Automobile Club di Milano.

^^v
30-08-2005, 10:06 PM
man if these rumors are proved accurate.... its BIG news
Rossi n Raikkonen @ Ferrari...... Michael possibly @ Mclaren :eek:



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Rossi (left) is not stranger at Maranello
Valentino Rossi is on the verge of clinching his fifth straight MotoGP title at Motegi in a three weeks time as rumours and reports from Italy, specifically La Repubblica suggest that the Italian star has signed a three year deal to join Ferrari in 2007 for an estimated 80 million Euros.

La Repubblica suggests that Rossi and Kimi Raikkonen will be the 2007 lineup for the once dominant champions.

There has been nothing official on this from Ferrari who just took up an option on the services of Felipe Massa to partner Michael Schumacher next year. Schumacher himself is under contract to the squad until the end of 2006 and according to reports, will await the first tests of the F2006 before making any decision as to whether he will remains with the team, move to pastures new, or retire from the sport.

The Rossi-Ferrari link is nothing new, but recent test with the teams seem to indicate the two parties are moving closer to a long- term working relationship and Rossi is believed to be conducting another two tests this year for Ferrari. His new contract with Yamaha is a one year extension and is up at the end of 2006.

Of course, a lot of Ferrari's 2007 lineup will depend on how competitive the team is next year and how well Felipe Massa performs alongside Schumacher. As it stands, Ferrari and tyre partner Bridgestone are between one and two seconds a lap off the pace at many Grand Prix. Should the team return to its winning ways in 2006, Raikkonen and Rossi may well be more inclined to make the move.

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^^v
30-08-2005, 10:11 PM
$90 000 000 :eek: :eek:
is Jenson really worth that much? lolz...



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(GMM) A staggering $90 million, it is reported, may convince Sir Frank Williams (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/team/4/Williams/view.html) to let Jenson Button (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/driver/15/Jenson-Button/view.html) stay at BAR next season.

UK tabloid 'News Of The World' said that, although Williams (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/team/4/Williams/view.html) seemed recently unwilling to negotiate, the ballpark figure was hit back into the Honda co-owned team's court after Frank knocked back an earlier $36m plea.

''Frank can play hardball on this,'' a supposed 'insider' told the newspaper, ''because we have a watertight contact with Jenson for next season.''

BAR principal Nick Fry is unwilling to put a figure on the value of 25 year old Button to the Brackley team, but he did say that it's 'a lot.'

''There has been a number of letters going backwards and forwards,'' he also revealed, ''and ... discussions.''

Button is, no doubt, perhaps keener than all to find a compromise. As well as baulking at the concept of a Cosworth-powered Williams (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/team/4/Williams/view.html), he reportedly has a five year, $18m per-year BAR deal in sight.


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jackosimm
30-08-2005, 10:44 PM
lol rossi and kimi at Ferrari, id like to see that!
Would they allow Rossi to simply jump in a Ferrari for 2007 championship?
I honestly cannot see Michael leaving Ferrari, even when he retires he will be heavily involved:thumbsup:

Petronas
03-09-2005, 10:27 AM
Is this a death trap for Red Bull? They want to buy Minardi and run 2 teams in 2006. One the current Red Bull Racing team and the 2nd a team named Red Bull Team USA.

http://www.f1racing.net/en/news.php?newsID=96793

LUD02C
03-09-2005, 01:47 PM
Is this a death trap for Red Bull? They want to buy Minardi and run 2 teams in 2006. One the current Red Bull Racing team and the 2nd a team named Red Bull Team USA.

http://www.f1racing.net/en/news.php?newsID=96793

Maybe they will get lots of cash from American companies?

LUD02C
03-09-2005, 01:49 PM
I'd buy Schumacher for $90 million, fuk Jenson!

Petronas
03-09-2005, 02:31 PM
I'd buy Schumacher for $90 million, fuk Jenson!
Rather Kimi, Shumi is old now, he doesnt have the same motovation anymore.

LUD02C
03-09-2005, 02:34 PM
Yes michael is getting older, but Kimi hasn't built a team like Ferrari, or have the experience/knowledge that Michael does to share with the team.

Michael could make Sato finish finish 25% of the season if he went to BAR, thats a massive improvment for Sato :D

jackosimm
03-09-2005, 02:47 PM
I think Michael has got all the motivation he could have, he always seems vibrant and ready for it

Vivski
04-09-2005, 12:18 AM
If Red Bull buys Minardi, will that mean there will be 3 Ferrari teams?

Team America... will there be puppets?

Kimi and Rossi, will Rossi be bringing his Yamaha team over from MotoGP? They followed him from Honda, may as well go with him to Ferrari. :p

Petronas
04-09-2005, 12:28 AM
If Red Bull buys Minardi, will that mean there will be 3 Ferrari teams?

Team America... will there be puppets?

Kimi and Rossi, will Rossi be bringing his Yamaha team over from MotoGP? They followed him from Honda, may as well go with him to Ferrari. :p
While it may be easier for Redbull to have same engines for both teams, I highly dought it. And if Rossi does come into formula one, he will have a 1 year testing role, then a year at Redbull Racing then finally at Ferrari.

Or He might just jump into the ferrari skipping the RedBull Racing part.

kenshin
04-09-2005, 12:35 AM
Michael could make Sato finish finish 25% of the season if he went to BAR, thats a massive improvment for Sato :D


???


also i cant see rossi signing on to be a 'test' pilot at all...

LUD02C
04-09-2005, 09:17 AM
A joke Kenshin :D

LUD02C
04-09-2005, 09:37 AM
Daily Record.
3 September 2005
COULTHARD: MARK WEBBER'S BEHAVIOR WAS SO DISGUSTING..HE'S A HOOLIGAN OUT ON THE TRACK
David Coulthard
MARK WEBBER will be the next Australian world champion - in boxing, not Formula One The man is a hooligan and he underlined the fact in Turkey when he performed a wild move on me.

There's an agreement between drivers that you can defend your position once - then you have to give in.

But in Istanbul he left me livid when he gave me a sideways swipe at Turn 11, moving his Williams-BMW towards my car like a fighter flashing a dummy punch in the ring.

It's disgusting behaviour, unprofessional and I have no sympathy for Webber after he almost smacked into Michael Schumacher in the same race.

He must be doing this out of frustration. He was tipped to be the next Aussie ace to win the world title but next year he will be in a team with a non-manufacturer engine - albeit the Cosworth which has been good for me this season.

His strength has always been how to qualify a car but on the track he is a madman.

Together, FUK YOU COULTHARD! :wave:

jackosimm
04-09-2005, 10:52 AM
that is getting quiet harsh towards Webber, he definitly is an aggresive driver, but ffs have a cry coulthard

LUD02C
04-09-2005, 11:47 AM
that is getting quiet harsh towards Webber, he definitly is an aggresive driver, but ffs have a cry coulthard

The guy that never could, the life story of David Coulthard.
But he is British, so he does have to have a whinge once a week!

Vivski
04-09-2005, 10:05 PM
Anyone think Coulthard's head is the same shape as Kryten's (off RedDwarf)?
http://images.google.com.au/images?q=tbn:cYR02H_JZ6EJ:www.autosport-international.com/images/gallery/coulthard.jpghttp://images.google.com.au/images?q=tbn:RCdObulGpbIJ:www.sybertooth.com/reddwarf/kryten.jpg


This was the 1st result on a Google Images search of "coulthard". LMAO
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nEUROtic
08-09-2005, 12:29 PM
In the same car on the same track who would be the quicker driver?

16.57% Fernando


47.54% Kimi


35.89% Michael


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Can't argue with those figures :)

^^v
11-09-2005, 12:18 PM
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Williams switch to Bridgestone rubber for 2006
A 'multi-year agreement' for Williams and Bridgestone
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All change for Williams in 2006 with Bridgestone
tyres and Cosworth V8 power
Bridgestone Motorsport announced this evening that it has entered into a multi-year agreement with the WilliamsF1 Team for the supply of Bridgestone Potenza Formula One tyres from 2006.

Bridgestone first supplied the WilliamsF1 Team with tyres in 1999 and 2000, during a period of single tyre supplier status, and is now pleased to welcome back the team within an environment of competitive tyre supply.

“It is with great pleasure that I can now confirm that Bridgestone Motorsport and the WilliamsF1 Team have entered into a tyre supply partnership, to commence after the end of the current season," stated Hiroshi Yasukawa, Director of Bridgestone Motorsport. "WilliamsF1 is one of the most experienced and respected teams competing in the FIA Formula One World Championship and I would like to thank Sir Frank Williams for his faith in our technological capabilities."

"Since entering Formula One in 1997, Bridgestone Motorsport has supplied the winning Constructors’ and Drivers’ Champions no fewer than seven times and we now look forward to working closely with the WilliamsF1 Team to help them achieve their goals in the future."

WilliamsF1 will therefore run Cosworth V8 engines and Bridgestone tyres in 2006.

E.A.
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Vivski
11-09-2005, 02:40 PM
Well see how good the decision is next year. I'd say Michelin would be my preference though.

^^v
11-09-2005, 05:32 PM
the tyre war is so one sided this season...
will be good to see it even up next year with hopefully a few top teams joining bridgestone...

Hondavirgin
12-09-2005, 10:45 AM
In the same car on the same track who would be the quicker driver?

16.57% Fernando


47.54% Kimi


35.89% Michael


Source - f1.com

Can't argue with those figures :)

But Kimi would only be fastest for 90% of the race, coz then his car would break :D . Anyways, I reckon Schumey would easily be fastest in the same car.

I heard last night Williams is switching to Bridgeys for next season?

Vivski
12-09-2005, 04:16 PM
Yep, Williams to Bridgestone for better or worse. I like Bridgestone, but they need to pick up their game. Hopefully this season has put a rocket up their backside 'cos it's been bad publicity for them.

I'd like to see Kimi vs Schumi in the McLaren. That would be a great race.

strider
13-09-2005, 10:57 PM
http://www.formula1.com/news/3591.html

after reading that interview, my dislike for him increased dramatically.
he looks as bad as the way he talks

TwEigh
13-09-2005, 11:06 PM
http://www.formula1.com/news/3591.html

after reading that interview, my dislike for him increased dramatically.
he looks as bad as the way he talks

LOL he is the most pissing off Team boss with wet armpit. freakin disgusting..


Here is a Quick Sample

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kenshin
13-09-2005, 11:12 PM
Anyone think Coulthard's head is the same shape as Kryten's (off RedDwarf)?
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This was the 1st result on a Google Images search of "coulthard". LMAO
http://images.google.com.au/images?q=tbn:23mmsLd04tAJ:www.opdebeeck.com/afbeeldingen/karikatuurschetsen/large/coulthard.jpg

hmmm... google image search 'sato'

http://images.google.com.au/images?q=tbn:TxNCoryYh-QJ:bjj.org/editorials/19980304-niche/sato-big.jpg

^^v
13-09-2005, 11:13 PM
hmmm... google image search 'sato'

http://images.google.com.au/images?q=tbn:TxNCoryYh-QJ:bjj.org/editorials/19980304-niche/sato-big.jpg

ahahahahahahaaa wtf lmao

strider
13-09-2005, 11:18 PM
why did pizza boy run into jpm instead of alonso?

^^v
14-09-2005, 12:51 AM
coz jpm sucks when it comes to letting back markers thru...

Petronas
14-09-2005, 07:43 AM
Here an interesting fact, Minardi, in 20 YEARS, has NEVER had a podium, its is quite sad, even Jaguar had a podium at least before it disappeared.
http://www.4mula1.ro/history/team/Minardi

Petronas
14-09-2005, 08:18 PM
http://formula-1.updatesport.com/news/article/1126685140/formula_one/F1business/HP-jump-Williams-ship/view.html

I feel sorry for them, everything is going wrong

LUD02C
15-09-2005, 03:21 PM
http://formula-1.updatesport.com/news/article/1126685140/formula_one/F1business/HP-jump-Williams-ship/view.html

I feel sorry for them, everything is going wrong

This confirms my theory that Frank and Patrick are going to sell very soon.

strider
16-09-2005, 10:19 AM
oh wow...
im starting to realli dislike F1. the new rules are choking out the technological advancement. the new V8s are all going ot be the same, so why dont they just have one engine manufacturer?

can someone point me to some good racing please?

strider
16-09-2005, 11:20 PM
http://www.planet-f1.com/news/story_20950.shtml

confirmed - heidfeld to BMW for 06

^^v
16-09-2005, 11:32 PM
damn u beat me to it lolz...

fook.. what does this mean for Buttongate II... oh no!
looking more n more likely he'll go to williams (or sit out a season or two)...

lets hope Honda pulls some more cash from their back pocket .... im sure Williams could do with the extra cash.. considering HP left em...

LUD02C
18-09-2005, 09:03 AM
This is why Australian Motorsport has such a hard time getting places, this wanker Ron Walker is in charge.
He is trying to take on Sheikh Maktoum Hasher Maktoum Al Maktoum, a multi-billionaire who could buy Australia.


Ron Walker, who is a close associate of Bernie Ecclestone, is claiming that A1 GP cannot use the term "Grand Prix" in Australia. Walker is not known for his pursuit of lost causes and it will be interesting to see whether or not the comments made by Walker will actually result in a legal action against A1 Grand Prix. Walker may have authorised such actions but that does not mean that his lawyers or the judges will agree with the argument that "A1 Grand Prix" infringes on the intellectual property rights of the Australian Grand Prix.

It is worth noting that Formula One has yet to secure any major trademarks on Formula One beyond the rather complicated "FIA Formula One World Championship". An attempt in 2000 to get a trademark for Formula One was rejected out of hand by the World Intellectual Property Organisation and the Formula One group has not been back since. This has not stopped the organisation trying to convince others to give up using "Formula One" and "F1". It is worth noting that if one tries to access FormulaOne.com one ends up with a windscreen-tinting company.

The term "Grand Prix" is even more complicated than F1 because the latter at least dates only from 1950 when the FIA started the World Championship. The term Grand Prix pre-dates the first automobile by 50 years and one would be hard-pressed to argue that Nicolas-Joseph Cugnot's steam vehicle was a device for racing. The first recognised use of Grand Prix was in 1721 when the French Academie des Sciences inaugurated a system of academic "big prizes" for researchers. This played an important role in the development of mathematics and other scientific disciplines.

The lawyers will even have trouble arguing that Grand Prix should be related to motor racing as the first application of the expression in sport was in 1805 when there was a horse race in Paris called the Grand Prix de Paris. The term Grand Prix was used regularly in horse racing from the middle of the nineteenth century, notably at Pau and in Paris where there has been a Grand Prix since 1863.

The first use of the phrase "Grand Prix" in relation to automobiles was not until 1901 when the town of Pau borrowed the title of its horse race for a series of motoring challenges.

It was then adopted by the Automobile Club de France in 1906 for the first Grand Prix race at Le Mans

LUD02C
18-09-2005, 09:16 AM
Any of you guys know about them replacing Suzuka next year with Mount Fuji?
I read it in a F1 mag.

Oh and for you Sato fans, as this is his last year (we all hope) another Japanese driver will be driving in F1 this year.
Sakon Yamamoto will be driving the 3rd Jordan/Toyota at the Japanese Grand Prix.

^^v
18-09-2005, 11:17 AM
they reviewed the track on a recent BMI....
its designed by Hermann Tllke... the same dude who designed Sepang..Bahrain...Istanbul...n Shanghai..
they've kept a few of the old characteristics ... 300R.. 100R... n the long as straight.. n its quite a technical track...

i think they're keeping Suzuka for next year.. n changing to Fuji in 07

n it wont be the same without sato lolz ><

LUD02C
18-09-2005, 11:44 AM
I hear Imola is going to be dropped, no crowds, plus the body there hasn't delievered its "promises" of upgrades on the track.

Abit O/T
Also, if the V8's are going to go back to the creek, they want a $14 million dollar upgrade, looks like they are going to Townsville for a street course, the local government there is pushing it and pumping a lot of money.

AVESCO is wanting to do the Homebush street circuit (same one Le Mans wanted to do) but the wank greenies stopped it for a stupid frog. Hope the V8's get approved.

LUD02C
18-09-2005, 11:59 AM
17 days to go
http://www.bonneville400.com/flash/default.aspxGo BAR-Honda.

strider
18-09-2005, 04:07 PM
i like suzuka, hope they do keep it

^^v
29-09-2005, 05:30 PM
man i hope they sort their shyt out...
fkn Max Mosley ><" n Bernie that greedy focker



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Five manufacturers enter a binding agreement
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A meeting between five major car manufacturers (BMW, DaimlerChrysler, Honda, Renault, Toyota) and seven teams (BAR, McLaren, Minardi, Renault, Sauber, Toyota, Williams) who currently participate in Formula One took place close to Munich on Wednesday.

The five manufacturers and their teams entered into a binding agreement to race together only in a series which satisfies the fundamental principles of a clear and equitable World Championship.

All teams not party to this agreement are encouraged to participate in a constructive process to form the premier motor sport series.

Whilst the group remains open and willing to discuss with the current commercial rights holder and the FIA on the future of Grand Prix motor racing beyond 2007, the current uncertainty leaves them with no option other than to progress preparatory work for the New Series.

Although the team principals and manufacturers agreed that some progress was made in the recent meetings, they considered it was not sufficient to delay the preparations for the New Series.

As a result, International Sports & Entertainment AG (iSe), the company that was appointed October 2004 as an operating partner for the alliance of teams and manufacturers, will advance strategic and commercial negotiations with key parties.

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LUD02C
30-09-2005, 03:11 PM
I read Toyota and Williams to sign with Bernie very soon last night on Eurosportnews.com should be interesting.

They won't sort it out, because Max and Bernie are wankers!

TwEigh
30-09-2005, 04:58 PM
where the hell gay ferrari is?

LUD02C
01-10-2005, 10:00 AM
Ferrari signed with Bernie at round 4-5 or something.

Vivski
02-10-2005, 12:58 AM
As long as the 5 teams stick together it should be fine. The only competetive team missing is Ferrari and they're missing by choice. If it results in a more equitable series them I'm for it. Way better to see 12 competetive cars than 4.

pornstar
02-10-2005, 02:06 AM
lol who would want to watch ferrari dominate red bull and minardi

^^v
04-10-2005, 11:54 AM
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2006 grid shaping up
Who goes where next year?
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Changes ahead of Sakhir 2006
With just the Japanese and Chinese Grand Prix remaining, the 2006 lineup is fairly complete. There are however some uncertainties in some of the teams and it will undoubtedly be some while before the complete 20 cars line-up is know for next year. Here’s out best guess as to who goes where:

McLaren Mercedes
No changes on the race driver lineup with Kimi Raikkonen and Juan Pablo Montoya remaining in the race seats. Test drivers Pedro de la Rosa and Alex Wurz both are keeping an eye on the situation at BMW for next year.

Renault
Again, the race driver line-up will remain the same with World Champion Fernando Alonso partnering Giancarlo Fisichella. The testing role is less certain with Franck Montagny looking to race in 2006. Heikki Kovalainen is tipped by many to be the third driver at Renault next year.

Ferrari
Michael Schumacher will start the final year of his multi-season contract with the out-going Champions. He is joined in the squad by Felipe Massa who replaces the BAR Honda bound Rubens Barrichello. On the testing side, it is not know whether both Luca Badoer and Marc gene will be retained while Valentino Rossi is expected to test more for the team in 2006.


Toyota
No major changes at Toyota, apart from Bridgestone tyres, with Jarno Trulli and Ralf Schumacher remaining in the two race seats. Ricardo Zonta and Olivier Panis are expected to continue as the team’s test drivers.

Williams Cosworth
With Cosworth V8 engines and Bridgestone tyres, Mark Webber is expected to remain with the squad in the second year of his deal with the team while Nick Heidfeld is no longer effectively with the team having joined BMW. Antonio Pizzonia and Nico Rosberg are expected to take the second race seats and testing role although at Williams it is hard to tell for sure who will take the final race seats. Witness the start of 2005.

BAR Honda
Rubens Barrichello joins the squad from Ferrari and will partner Jenson Button. Takuma Sato is expected to leave the squad as he is not too keen on testing for the squad, especially when the race driver’s have such long-term contracts. Anthony Davidson also is expected to leave his testing role at the teams for something new, so in effect, there is one testing role up for grabs at BAR Honda.

Red Bull Ferrari
David Coulthard is confirmed in the race seats while Christian Klien will almost certainly join Coulthard once again on the driving front, even if rumours have linked him to a role at BMW. It is however hard to imagine Klien in anything other than Red Bull colours. The testing role is up for grabs even though the team announced at Monza that Scott Speed would take the role. Speed is expected to race in the Red Bull Junior team.

BMW
Nick Heidfeld will lead the team as the team changes from Sauber Petronas to BMW over the off-season. Jacques Villeneuve seemingly has a water-tight contract to race for the team in 2006 and given his recent performances, would be a solid choice for the squad. It remains to be seen whether Villeneuve will fit in with the new management at the Swiss-based squad. Alex Wurz has also been linked to a drive with the team while the testing role is uncertain.

Midland Toyota
The team will lose its Jordan name over the off-season and there are a number of drivers linked to the two race seats at the team. Current Jordan driver Narain Karthikeyan is expected to leave the team and find a testing role with another outfit, while Tiago Monteiro is one of many looking to race with the squad. Other driver’s linked to the team include Anthony Davidson, Franck Montagny and Takuma Sato. It could well be some time before Midland announces who races for them in 2006.

Red Bull Cosworth
The second Red Bull team, currently dubbed the junior team, is what we currently know as Minardi Cosworth. The team will change hands at the end of the season and are expected to fun the Cosworth V10 engine and Michelin tyres. On the driving front, Scott Speed and Vitantonio Liuzzi are expected to race for the team while an up and coming Red Bull driver will take the testing role.

So there we have it. A very rough and ready view of who will move where for next season. It would be of course very disappointing if all this would prove to be correct as a little last minute shuffle is always rather entertaining.

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Hondavirgin
04-10-2005, 01:44 PM
Midland Toyota sounds like a bloody dealership! I don't like them calling Mindardi Red Bull Junior Team.