dc2 gsi -----> type r CONVERSION

[tengsta]

Hi im new to ozhonda and im a tru honda fan :)

im jus wondering if it is possible to convert a dc2 gsi to a type r?? has anyone done it b4???

this is the scenario. I have a type R engine and some other parts from my friend. i want to put this engine into the gsi. Is this possible??

If so, what do i need to do to make this happen. And if some one has done it before ...... how much money am i lookin at for labor of installing the actual engine etc. Also the engine has been sittin in the garage for a while, would it be a good idea to get the engine reconditioned??

thankz and hope to hear from u honda enthusiast :wave:

[Q_ball]

welcome to OH yo!!
im sure someone will b able to answer ur Qs about this...
it has been done plenty of times so someones bound to kno!
GL with everything mate!

[GSI-PSI]

providing you have the complete engine loom and computer this will make the job much less stressful. Do u have them?

[tengsta]

what do u meean by lloom>???

i got the whole engine and ecu

excpet tthere is no piping and wiring

[GSI-PSI]

Well that might become a big problem then. When i say wiring loom i mean all the wires and plugs that plug into your ECU and lead out to under the bonnet that connect to various little plugs on your engine. For starters your wiring loom is going to be different on a type r motor compared to a gsi as 1 example is vtec. You need to power the vtec with wires leading to your ecu

[tengsta]

ohh ic

well i got the engine from sum1 who crashed his car .... he only salvaged the engine and ecu and gearbox and some other stufff, but not the wiring loom :(

well then wat will happen if i dont have the wiring etc?? is it possible to find wiring from other soures eg shops?? and how much will it cost then :/

[HRV-80Y]

doesnt need 2 b a type r conversion jus put the engine in...sleeper !

have gsi on the boot ! and a b18c under d hood !

[panda[cRx]]

ohh ic

well i got the engine from sum1 who crashed his car .... he only salvaged the engine and ecu and gearbox and some other stufff, but not the wiring loom :(

well then wat will happen if i dont have the wiring etc?? is it possible to find wiring from other soures eg shops?? and how much will it cost then :/

dude they are pretty hard to find from wreckers, and if you do find it expect to pay $800-1000+ :o

i had a similar problem with my engine

try calling around the wreckers and see what you can track down, they'll try and charge an arm anda leg so try and bargain them by saying its in cash lol

[tengsta]

LOL yeah i want to be a sleeper :D
i just want to chuck the engine in, but doesnt that require changin other parts too??

does the wiring have to be like the honda wiring loom?? cant u get aftermarket ones

[Da1nONLY]

friend done it before =)
i still beat him in my dc2r tho...

[Shraka]

Try calling around auto-electricians.

I think you can get custom looms made. A friend of mine had a loom fixed up for his 4A-GE AE86 conversion, but I'm not sure if it was a cut up job or an actual custom loom from nothing. Be carefull though, custom looms commonly don't work right and are a nightmare (my mate went through 3 looms before settling on one that actualy worked right).

[tengsta]

ahahah fankz

dat makes me feel better :P

such a hard job without the original wiring loom :(
maybe ill jus get a vtir :D

[tofu R]

nah in order to put in the type R engine you have to put on the stickers

or else the car wont start

this is from experience./

[GSI-PSI]

more trouble than what its worth mate. Even without the type r gearbox and just using your gsi one will make the car not go as hard as the type r. Then again you might be able to get a complete aftermarket computer like a microtech that has a complete wiring loom. I dunno if they can actually do it tho.

[tengsta]

i can get the type r gearbox :D

so gettin a aftermarket ecu may be a solution to mi wiring loom problem ??

[GSI-PSI]

otherwise another option would be to see if the standard gsi plugs match up to those on the motor. Tho only few extra plugs should be your ones that power your vtec but you can enquire at an autoelec 2 see if u can wire them up 2 the ecu later. On the type r ecu that u have got, dose it still have the wiring plugs in it with the wires cut off? If not see if you can get them because you will need to re wire those plugs into your own wiring.

[GSI-PSI]

oh and another thing, Get someone to give your engine a cold start compression test to see if the engine is still good before you go rebuilding for nothing. This is a piss easy thing to do and it will determine how good your engines compression is. I done it to my old engine before i bought it. Then all you gotta do is find out what the cold start compression of the same engine is on the net. Easily found. This can be done without the engine being in the car.

[tengsta]

lol fankz for ur helps peeoplz u been realli helpful
dis stuff is makin me stressed

i think i will stick to gettin a vtir then, a lot less troublesome and cheaeper in the long run i guess :)

cheerz

[GSI-PSI]

prob a better idea, and with tha money ya save get ya exhaust, air intake cams etc etc lol or just do what i did and slap a pidgeon under the bonnet lol

[tengsta]

go the vtec/turbo .... :P

wait.... all show no go actualli :D

[panda[cRx]]

Then again you might be able to get a complete aftermarket computer like a microtech that has a complete wiring loom.

microtech doesnt come with a loom, but like said earlier u can get one made up or chase one down from a wrecker.

i actually chopped into my old loom and modified that (well i didnt but mechanic did:rolleyes: )

[tengsta]

dammm it seems like its so much work and effort and moneyyy :( :thumbdwn:

but do u rekonn it is worth it to go through with this project with the problems i am facing??

[tRipitaka]

u might aswell sell ur teg, and buy a stock dc2r..

[spardikis]

I have a DC4 gsi and am doing a Poor Mans Type R build, seeing as though both computers are OB2 I went ahead and have already brought a type R computer and its all plug and play. The car runs (although not very well) with the gsi motor/typre R computer. When i finish my engine build is just as simple as run a couple of wires out to the vtec solinoid and such and its all good.

[jimmeh]

try ebay.com you definately find one on there

[tengsta]

I have a DC4 gsi and am doing a Poor Mans Type R build, seeing as though both computers are OB2 I went ahead and have already brought a type R computer and its all plug and play. The car runs (although not very well) with the gsi motor/typre R computer. When i finish my engine build is just as simple as run a couple of wires out to the vtec solinoid and such and its all good.

so you are using the existing wiring looom from the gsi to connect the ecu and engine??

[SKREMN]

Its not that hard people who do conversions dont allways change there loom you just add and change a few wires to adapt to the new computer i think its a good choice you just gotta find someone who knows what there doing to wire the thing up
i've got a poor mans Type R from a non v-tech its an LS they just addded extra wires to the computer on my main loom

[GSI-PSI]

if you can take a pik of both computers and their imput pinouts and put it on ere. We will be able to tell you if you can plug it straight in. Or even check yaself to see if theyre the same. If they are then ya laughin and if not well the guys were right in that all you gotta do is rewire the vtec and other wires if needed.

[spardikis]

so you are using the existing wiring looom from the gsi to connect the ecu and engine??

Tengsta I am using my current wiring loom from the gsi with a type R computer. The only difference in the two looms are a three wires, the knock sensor, vtec solinoid and VTec Pressure switch. I am not sure what year your DC2 is, my gsi being a 96 has an OB2 computer as does the type R, so basically if your integra is OB2 then it should fit. If not all ya have to do is buy a OB1 (or what ever model your car is) coversion harness. I have a link somewhere that explain's it all but errr... :rolleyes: as usual having trouble finding it. PM me if ya need some more info?

[kenji]

gsi i would boost it ... in america they use B18B and boost it ... very fast

[tengsta]

truuu that mite as welll boost it and it would prbly cost the same amount

and u get to hear the bov *pHSHhHHhh* :P

well fankz every1, i think i will not go through with it coz too much trouble and cbf.

cheerrs
i s2 ozhonda forums
wat wud i do wif out u :D

[majic777]

yeah without the wires your b18c7 is worthless, i'll happily take it off your hands for $100 :D :D :D :D :D deal? :wave: