small enclosure

[samsider]

what sub would sound the best in a small enclosure (small box)????


also


i have an alpine stacker in my car and i have an alpine head unit. i really wanna get a dvd player (moniter) in my car, does it have to be an alpine one to be compatable with my stacker. Is there some adapter i can buy which will allow me to use for example a clarion headunit with my alpine stacker or does the head unit have to be alpine

[mj3610]

what size sub???

[ACTI0NMAN-1]

8" or 10" will be fine, unless you want huge thumping bass. then 2 x 10" or a 12", you dont need anything bigger unless your into competitions. A factor to consider is the quality of the sub you want.

[jords]

If you want a quality sub then you will need a quality amp so that it will perform at its peek.

[tRipitaka]

i have an alpine stacker in my car and i have an alpine head unit. i really wanna get a dvd player (moniter) in my car, does it have to be an alpine one to be compatable with my stacker. Is there some adapter i can buy which will allow me to use for example a clarion headunit with my alpine stacker or does the head unit have to be alpine

afaik, u have to get a same brand stacker as the headunit..
plus, if u want a dvd player.. it'll be better to get a dvd stacker too..

[mugeneration]

i know im always plugging pioneer products, thats coz i havnt had any experience with anything else mainly, but pioneer have a shallow mount subwoofer in 12 inch if you mean that you are limited for room. But yeah as tRipitaka said, you need to use the same brand. If you go to a good place they would do you a good deal on buying the player AND the stacker.

[kOncept]

as i recall the MTX 8000 series subwoofers are designed for small sealed enclosures, very nice sub from experience.

check with your local "professional" car audio store as to which ones are actually designed for small enclosures the MTXs are the only ones i can think of.

[samsider]

schnieder 12inch in a box and all wired is going to cost me $345. for an extra $100 i can get a jl 12inch.

is it worth the extra 100

i have a xplode 400watt amp

[mj3610]

this is a fukin nice packagae right here
http://www.strathfield.com/ViewProduct.asp?ProdID=1484

[micka]

for a small enclosure you have a few choices...
isobarik loading will allow for small enclosure, for more info http://www.jlaudio.com/tutorials/isobarik/index.html

aperiodic enclosure is another option


Aperiodic - Very small subwoofer boxes that "breathe" through a moving membrane. Both the membrane and cone can not be in the same exterior space. Either the membrane part has to be isolated by cutting a hole in the car so that it is outside, or the subwoofer has to be isolated from the rest of the trunk in a similar fashion to free air woofers. The "box" has to be as small as possible (ideally the membrane should be right up against the sub), since it is used only for coupling the sub and membrane. Aperiodic membrane configurations are very hard to design and tune, but give good frequency response and respond faster to transients, giving accurate and tight bass as opposed to boomy sound. They are not ruled by Thiele-Small parameters like other designs, so any woofer would work with the membrane.


other than that you would have to look at the t/s specs of individual subs to find subs that will work well in small enclosures. Boston Acoustics make some subs that work well in small boxes.

[chan]

tell us about the goal (SQ or SPL), budget, space available and max box dimension. what amp u will use for the sub?

what is ur front stage? that's the most important thing in a SQ system. if ur front stage lack of mid-bass, u will end up no mid bass even if u have some 10" or 12" subs.

[samsider]

I have an alpine head unit.
6 inch front clarion splits.
4 inch clarion rear speakers.
I got a 4 channel 400 watt xplode running the speakers.

i have a del sol so there isnt much space im going to be putting the sub in the boot(it'll be to messy putting it behind the seats). Space gets limited in the boot when the roof comes off.

Right now with my current set up i have no bass at all its really really ugly. After i get the sub ill be connecting the rear spears to the deck and the sub to the amp.

All i want is some bass not to fussy about brand names or anything, but i still dont wont garbage.

The sub i think will have to be facing up wards because i dont think itll fit standing up. It has to be a 12inch sub i reckon 10s are to punchy

[chan]

I have an alpine head unit.
6 inch front clarion splits.
4 inch clarion rear speakers.
I got a 4 channel 400 watt xplode running the speakers.

i have a del sol so there isnt much space im going to be putting the sub in the boot(it'll be to messy putting it behind the seats). Space gets limited in the boot when the roof comes off.

Right now with my current set up i have no bass at all its really really ugly. After i get the sub ill be connecting the rear spears to the deck and the sub to the amp.

All i want is some bass not to fussy about brand names or anything, but i still dont wont garbage.

The sub i think will have to be facing up wards because i dont think itll fit standing up. It has to be a 12inch sub i reckon 10s are to punchy

how does ur car look like? if i were u, i would seal the front doors (assume ur woofers r installed on the doors) and c how much bass ur speakers r capable of. 10" move faster and produces more accurate bass. it's good for techno. 12" is louder due to more cone area but it will require more power too. sub facing up, forward or backward does make a difference. maybe build a temp box (or borrow it from someone) and c which way is the best u like.

[chan]

oh forgot. some sub sounds punchier than the others. a SQ sub can sound punchy too in a small box (i mean the box is smaller than what the factory is recommended).

[micka]

. 10" move faster and produces more accurate bass. it's good for techno. 12" is louder due to more cone area but it will require more power too.

Debatable at best. I think DD Phil (Aust. Distributer of DD products) summed this up well, so i'll quote him...

Sub size has little or NOTHING to do with the SQ.

Great 15s sound great. Crap 15s sound crap.

Phil

A properly designed and constructed enclosure will have a far more pronounced effect on a subs performance, than the size of it's diameter.

[chan]

Debatable at best. I think DD Phil (Aust. Distributer of DD products) summed this up well, so i'll quote him...


A properly designed and constructed enclosure will have a far more pronounced effect on a subs performance, than the size of it's diameter.

u missed my point. i am talking about the same model in different sizes. size always matter.

[micka]

subs regardless of size are generally low passed at around 80Hz, sounds below this level sound do not sound "tight".

As long as the cone is sufficently stiff (ie "normal" sized subs, not the 32" clarion) it should reproduce these frequencies well enough, the enclosure will have a great deal of influence on cone control.

Tight bass is a result of higher frequencies played in conjunction to the subs... http://www.installer.com/tech/tight.html

[aka_NSX]

i have a del sol so there isnt much space im going to be putting the sub in the boot(it'll be to messy putting it behind the seats). Space gets limited in the boot when the roof comes off.


will u willing to pay extra for ppl to build u a box behind the seat? i reckon thats the best way doing it because if you build the box in the boot you wont get much bass when the roof is open then u stored the roof in the boot, i know a few installer done it with 2x10" behind the seat . . . .

[samsider]

yeh i think 2x10s would be the way to go, just need to get another amp too now