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tekling
28-07-2005, 05:22 AM
i was wondering where is a reputable place to get a cooler for a civic
im in melb btw
i asked avo and they charged 1.3k for it with all piping

i just get an idea of where else to shop...

cheers

joyride
28-07-2005, 07:17 AM
are you looking for an i/c kit for the civic?
or just the i/c? if so go to an import shop and buy a new (aftermarket) or used (factory) i/c and get the piping done at an exhaust shop...

tekling
29-07-2005, 12:15 AM
dont mind a i/c kit for a civic but if i can get a fairly good i/c then ill just get the piping fabricated

just need to know where to shop

joyride
29-07-2005, 01:08 PM
you can get used i/c off imports for a good price. just good to your local import wrecker and look for the mitsu galant vr4 turbo i/c or nissan pulsar gtir i/c
they are pretty affordable for around $250+.
just acid wash/dip them before putting it in your car to flush out any impurities.

otherwise go to autobarn or something.. i think they have cheap hybrid performance i/c

alta'd n13
29-07-2005, 10:31 PM
nissan pulsar gtir i/c

if you are going for something second hand you wont want to do any work to it. the GTi-R cooler is rated to about 350hp but it is a top mounted application and will require having the end tanks remade to suit a fmic application.
if you are going for a second hand cooler search for a tube and fin core rather than bar and plate. even if the tube and fin is half the size of a bar and plate its twice as effective and cools alot better so i would recommend trying your best to find something suitable in one of those.

tekling
30-07-2005, 05:50 AM
should i steer away from ppl that sell those "universal i/c"?

Maxx
31-07-2005, 12:35 AM
if you are going for a second hand cooler search for a tube and fin core rather than bar and plate. even if the tube and fin is half the size of a bar and plate its twice as effective and cools alot better so i would recommend trying your best to find something suitable in one of those.

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/images/smilies/confused.gif WTF??

for the same size
tube & fin - air flow quicker and less pressure drop
provide better throttle response

bar & plate - it concentrate on cooling ability
cool better than same size tube & fin but not flow as good (less response)

most jap cooler is tube & fin
but most big ass cooler are still bar & plate
as those car have massive amount of air flow (big HP, big boost) and
cooling is the first Priority

there are a lot of cheap cooler around
from memory hybrid copy 600x300x76 is about $200-300 brand new?

Fattony
31-07-2005, 04:58 AM
Log onto PWR's webpage www.pwr.com.au, they are now doing a universal fit coolers and are about the $430 mark for a core thats 400x300x75. They use quality australian made K&J tube and fin cores which are designed to cool and flow really well (equivelent sized custom coolers from PWR using the same core flowed something like 900cfm).They high quality end tanks which come polished, welds are quality, not like the crap that you see on these chinese coolers and not to mention they also spray pwr on the front of it for that fully sik look. It makes a lot of sense to pay that extra couple of hundred dollars for a quality item that will flow the hp. You still got the cost of mounting it and getting pipe work done for it, so that also adds up, but you still should get out of it for less than $1300. If you want to research a little more about the chinese cooler cores and quality cores just log onto www.are.com.au there is a lot of techincal info on there which should help you make a informed choice/

tekling
31-07-2005, 06:31 PM
thanks a lot guys

Lokmok1234
31-07-2005, 07:03 PM
too bad....if you were in adelaide i'd get you one for just $1000

tekling
01-08-2005, 03:48 AM
unless u come down to melb
hehehe

joyride
01-08-2005, 07:52 AM
if you are going for something second hand you wont want to do any work to it. the GTi-R cooler is rated to about 350hp but it is a top mounted application and will require having the end tanks remade to suit a fmic application.
if you are going for a second hand cooler search for a tube and fin core rather than bar and plate. even if the tube and fin is half the size of a bar and plate its twice as effective and cools alot better so i would recommend trying your best to find something suitable in one of those.

i have a gtir i/c on my sprinter frount mounted. any competent (sp??) workshop should have no trouble changing the end tanks on it. and plus tube and fin is a bit of overkill for a civic. bar and plate is sufficient unless he is chasing massive hp.

anyway, tekling, if u want some bling to your i/c get the hybrid ones.. they still do the job although there are far better ones out there.

joonix
01-08-2005, 02:16 PM
Don't arse around with second hand IC. Get one of these :

http://www.johnnyracecar.com/107_0738.jpg

http://www.johnnyracecar.com/

Cheaper and better quality then the majority of stuff that you get over here. I reccomend the black ones, with black piping and silicon joins. Much less attention.


I have a lot of customers who are putting down 350hp using this intercooler. This style intercooler carries a price tag of $185 shipped and the black anodized finish is $45 more.

joyride
01-08-2005, 02:48 PM
why do you say 2nd hand ones are useless?
find one in good nick and you'll have no probs.

LSD Motorsports
01-08-2005, 06:52 PM
Hey, for your piping needs we have

http://lsdmotorsports.com/pictures/Piping.jpg (http://www.lsdmotorsports.com)

For Full Piping, silicone and clamps

http://lsdmotorsports.com/pictures/Piping-and-coupler-kit.jpg (http://www.lsdmotorsports.com)


For Your intercooler needs, we have both bar and plate and tube and fin intercoolers:

Tube and Fin

http://lsdmotorsports.com/pictures/LSDintercooler_bar-plate_25.jpg (http://www.lsdmotorsports.com)


Bar and Plate

http://lsdmotorsports.com/pictures/LSDintercooler_tube-fin_250.jpg (http://www.lsdmotorsports.com)


Were a Sponsor on here and ship to Australia quite Often.

poid
01-08-2005, 07:55 PM
Cheaper and better quality then the majority of stuff that you get over here. I reccomend the black ones, with black piping and silicon joins. Much less attention.

except that every time i asked him about them he refused to ship to australia

joonix
02-08-2005, 01:41 AM
except that every time i asked him about them he refused to ship to australia

There are numerous re-shiping companies. www.shoptheusa.com for example.

saxman
02-08-2005, 02:40 AM
except that every time i asked him about them he refused to ship to australia
it's true, he is a pain with shipping out of the country, however, the products are very high quality. I have one on my car, and have set up a good 10 other cars with them. Wonderful product for the money.

LSD Motorsports
02-08-2005, 09:44 AM
There are numerous re-shiping companies. www.shoptheusa.com for example.
Any Product from the USA you need to purchase or simply shipped over we can help you with. compare our shipping Quote with anybodies, i guarantee it to be significantly lower

2MPRSS
02-08-2005, 04:53 PM
i hear plazmaman intercoolers are top of the line but much expensive then hybrid intercoolers

tekling
02-08-2005, 11:51 PM
it's true, he is a pain with shipping out of the country, however, the products are very high quality. I have one on my car, and have set up a good 10 other cars with them. Wonderful product for the money.

want to be my middle man??

Weq
03-08-2005, 07:48 PM
intercooler was the only thing i bought from AUS. CHeckout ebay. plenty of nice small coolers for our honda's.

tekling
04-08-2005, 02:21 AM
for me, i dont like ebay that much

Weq
04-08-2005, 08:36 PM
http://members.optusnet.com.au/loxy/car/turbo/new_setup/intercooler.jpg

tell me thats not a good fit. If u dont want to buy off ebay, goto ur local performance shop and pay twice as much. Its still a great fit and will cuit ur needs. AND keep u legal. that was 200shipped.

10KRPM
05-08-2005, 01:54 PM
200 dollars shipped...thats bang for your buck perfomance value there.

BiGANG
05-08-2005, 04:14 PM
hey Weq, was that bought from america or over here? Looks real neat by the way

tekling
06-08-2005, 04:28 AM
it did the job tho yeh weq??

was it an actual shop or private seller?

crx_boy7
06-08-2005, 11:01 PM
is it true that if u buy a lot smaller Apexy "i forgot the specific name" I/C that it can cool alot better with practicaly no restriction?
yes it would be alot harder to find and alot more than 200bks shipped
(i dont hav a dollar sign on this cr%ppy euro keyboard :)
wat kind of performance could i expect from one of those sexy black i/cs?
would it be very restrictive past 20psi? and dose spraying ur i/c with water or nos before a run realy do anithin?

joyride
08-08-2005, 02:24 PM
spraying water over the i/c merely makes the air temp when passing thru the i/c cooler.


edit: nitrous is a different application but still the same concept

Weq
08-08-2005, 03:19 PM
yes it was local. the guy is on ebay. i think he sells em for around 250 now, but he does the occasional $1 auction which is when i picked it up. we will see how much boost it can handle though, im pretty sure it should handle under 18psi no without becomming a restriction. for a stock bottom end setup, this is a perfect fit with just a bit of trimming required.

the core itself is just ur average chineese thing (like all the other copy intercoolers). if u get something brand name, u will get a very efficent core which will handle alot more boost. its just how much u want to spend and ur needs..

MR-VTEC
09-08-2005, 03:01 PM
do your remember the guys username/company?

Weq
09-08-2005, 08:52 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEW-720x180x80mm-INTERCOOLER-POLISHED-NR_W0QQitemZ4565058849QQcategoryZ32624QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem

this is the guy and the cooler.

tekling
10-08-2005, 05:13 AM
thanks weq

MR-VTEC
10-08-2005, 08:28 AM
thanks weq