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Chao
29-07-2005, 11:23 PM
Im a newbie here. i was told that this site would be helpful. anyways i just bought 17's for my jazz and my tires are 205/40 on a stock ride. im wondering, would it be advisable if i switch to 205/45? Thanks guys! :rolleyes: really need your insights

^CarBoy^
30-07-2005, 12:13 AM
205/40/17 is the ideal tyres for 17" on a jazz. If you got 16" you have to get 195/45/16...

Jazzle
30-07-2005, 12:57 AM
if running on the stock rims 15"... wat other sizes can we get instead of the original 185/55/r15?

Fizz
30-07-2005, 01:15 AM
if running on the stock rims 15"... wat other sizes can we get instead of the original 185/55/r15?

i think for 15", the most u should go is 195/55. should be a perfect fit.

Jazzle
30-07-2005, 01:33 AM
wat about 205 width?? is it good?

ahcash
30-07-2005, 01:41 AM
I remember someone told me before the stock 15" alloy wheel are able to take 205.. but I personally haven't try it..

Any Tyres and Wheels expert here???

muli
30-07-2005, 09:41 AM
i got told that 195 is the biggest the 15" will take. Im getting 195/50/15 cause they heaps cheaper than 185/55/15

Fizz
30-07-2005, 05:19 PM
wat about 205 width?? is it good?

muli is right. also it might be abit difficult to source 205 tires for 15" rims. and remember that increasing tire width will increase rolling resistance, hence could lead to higher fuel consumption.

Andys
30-07-2005, 05:57 PM
In case anyone with a VTi is interested, you can actually take 185/55 rubber instead of the stock 175/65.

I got this size with Pirelli P6000 tyre - it was roughly $500 for 4 tyres but made a huge difference in handling over stock (when properly inflated). Better in the rain, too.

- Andrew

^CarBoy^
30-07-2005, 05:57 PM
Yeah I got 195/50/15 on my Sprint Hart CP-FG rims and yes.. it's cheaper...

vividjazz
30-07-2005, 09:39 PM
muli is right. also it might be abit difficult to source 205 tires for 15" rims. and remember that increasing tire width will increase rolling resistance, hence could lead to higher fuel consumption.

I would have thought compound would make more of a difference to rolling resistance than a small increase in width. As nice and grippy as silicone compound sports tyres are that stick takes more force to rotate than say continental ecos or other tyres designed for hybrids - insight etc (where minimal resistance is a primary goal with fuel consumption). Go the bald cheesecutters for maximum fuel economy.

kimo
30-07-2005, 09:45 PM
My stock City is 165x80x13 reall ugly and thin :(

bagaichiban
30-07-2005, 10:58 PM
anyone know if i can use 45 on 17 inch rim?? as in (205/45/17)? Would the tyre scratch the plastic cover??

hinezz
31-07-2005, 09:25 PM
mines 215/35/7.5 R18 :) so fat!

bagaichiban
01-08-2005, 10:42 AM
mines 215/35/7.5 R18 :) so fat!

Wow.....so thin ar....better watch out all the pod hole man...

muli
01-08-2005, 11:41 AM
In case anyone with a VTi is interested, you can actually take 185/55 rubber instead of the stock 175/65.

I got this size with Pirelli P6000 tyre - it was roughly $500 for 4 tyres but made a huge difference in handling over stock (when properly inflated). Better in the rain, too.

- Andrew

55 profile is expensive, cheaper to get 195/50/15 in same same brand and model

MR Spyder
01-08-2005, 03:26 PM
if running on the stock rims 15"... wat other sizes can we get instead of the original 185/55/r15?

I'm running on BFG 195/50/15.. :)

MR Spyder
01-08-2005, 03:27 PM
If you're intending to lower your ride, 195/55/15 won't fit.. WIll rub against the fenders. :)

Jazzle
01-08-2005, 04:41 PM
If you're intending to lower your ride, 195/55/15 won't fit.. WIll rub against the fenders. :)


:confused: why is that?? isn't it depending on how much u lower??

Chao
01-08-2005, 07:52 PM
205/40/17 is the ideal tyres for 17" on a jazz. If you got 16" you have to get 195/45/16...

Thanks dude!

vividjazz
01-08-2005, 08:43 PM
55 profile is expensive, cheaper to get 195/50/15 in same same brand and model

In Australia the GLi has 13" and the VTi has 14" not 15" wheels like the VTiS.

You reckon its cheaper to buy a set of 4 x 15" alloy wheels (genuine Honda or enki) and 4 x 195/50/15 tyres than just buy 4 x 185/55 14" tyres. I don't think the price difference between 55 profile 14" and 50 profile 15" tyres is quite that great or at least not in Sydney.

spoon fit
01-08-2005, 09:15 PM
In Australia the GLi has 13" and the VTi has 14" not 15" wheels like the VTiS.

You reckon its cheaper to buy a set of 4 x 15" alloy wheels (genuine Honda or enki) and 4 x 195/50/15 tyres than just buy 4 x 185/55 14" tyres. I don't think the price difference between 55 profile 14" and 50 profile 15" tyres is quite that great or at least not in Sydney.

13"?? not the same as vti? :confused:

vividjazz
02-08-2005, 07:25 PM
13"?? not the same as vti? :confused:

The GLi has 14" in Aus. Some overseas markets get the 13" cheescutters as part of the poverty pack..

muli
02-08-2005, 08:10 PM
In Australia the GLi has 13" and the VTi has 14" not 15" wheels like the VTiS.

You reckon its cheaper to buy a set of 4 x 15" alloy wheels (genuine Honda or enki) and 4 x 195/50/15 tyres than just buy 4 x 185/55 14" tyres. I don't think the price difference between 55 profile 14" and 50 profile 15" tyres is quite that great or at least not in Sydney.


no i meant it cheaper to buy 195/50/15 than 185/55/15

panda
03-08-2005, 11:18 AM
in general

15" > 195/50-15
16" > 195/45-16
17" > 205/40-17

for your typical 6.5-7" wide wheel, any wider you would need to reconsider the tyre size

bagaichiban
03-08-2005, 04:00 PM
so 205/"45"/17 might scratch the plastic cover when car is lowered???

asiansquad
04-08-2005, 11:44 PM
How about 205/55/16 ?? will it scratch the fender when lowered?

swat
05-08-2005, 02:29 AM
mines 215/35/7.5 R18 :) so fat!


we on the same boat mate......in fact it fix the problem of steering feel :wave:

Bloss
07-08-2005, 02:44 PM
To compare tyres sizes go to:

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
OR
http://www.tyresave.co.uk/tyresize.html

But wheel offset is also v.important to clear brakes and body or suspension components. If you do alter the wheels/tyres so speedo is out by more than about 2% you run risk of fines. There is a black box which will allow you to adjust speedo if the input is digital - go to www.autospeed.com.au and search site.

Philip Lee
07-08-2005, 05:51 PM
can u really get 205/55/16? it doesn't seems like a popular size

swat
07-08-2005, 07:57 PM
showing 100km but infact doing 104 is not a bad result at all ^_^

i had a 225/55/16 on my S15 b4 so it may be possible , the NISSAN put 195/55/16 on it

asiansquad
07-08-2005, 10:24 PM
can u really get 205/55/16? it doesn't seems like a popular size

yeah u can

there's someone advertising it on firesport

jazzman
08-08-2005, 03:36 PM
I have the 1.3 jazz and i have 195/50/15 from 175/60/14.Is it right?

Chao
08-08-2005, 03:58 PM
would a 205/45/17 scratch the plastic on a stock ride? coz i dont have plans on lowering my ride, yet.. hehehe :D

asiansquad
09-08-2005, 05:02 PM
i got 205/45/16 now..and there's still a big gap left..so i dont think 17 would scratch the plastic especially if u dunt plan on lowering

spoon fit
09-08-2005, 06:19 PM
i got 205/45/16 now..and there's still a big gap left..so i dont think 17 would scratch the plastic especially if u dunt plan on lowering

ic, really
i m looking for 18"

asiansquad
09-08-2005, 07:07 PM
18" didn't u just buy those rims recently??? gonna change to 18?

spoon fit
09-08-2005, 07:23 PM
yap!!

ahcash
09-08-2005, 09:14 PM
HAHAHA... Ronald.. you listen to him?

If so, sell me your WORK rims Spoonie.

spoon fit
09-08-2005, 09:40 PM
ahcash, r u serious?
i m sure ar

asiansquad
09-08-2005, 09:46 PM
spoonie..i'll swap with you ;)

spoon fit
09-08-2005, 10:06 PM
swap!? no la..
sell it to u?

asiansquad
09-08-2005, 11:56 PM
hahahaha swap with me..then sell mine to cash :D

Chao
10-08-2005, 12:38 AM
i got 205/45/16 now..and there's still a big gap left..so i dont think 17 would scratch the plastic especially if u dunt plan on lowering

thanks mah friend! :)

ahcash
10-08-2005, 09:54 AM
Ronald, no offence.. but not a big fan of Mugen rims.. especially that one looks like TypeG :thumbdwn: (hahaha.. he is going to get piss off with me!)

Spoonie, will speak to you in Fitta'er Australia.. if not, we will get kick in the but+ soon for chit chatting here...

Sorry.. I will piss off now.

asiansquad
10-08-2005, 10:38 AM
funny thing is..when u look @ it in person..it looks the same as sunny's one too

his car was next to mine a few nights ago..and they looked the same..haha

ahcash
10-08-2005, 11:04 AM
Actually .. having a look at the pictures now.. they do look similiar.. D@mn!!! I will look elsewhere then.. :D

asiansquad
10-08-2005, 11:09 AM
HAHAHAHAAHA

the only difference is, my one doesn't have works or mugen sprayed on it..and my one is bigger ;)

muli
12-08-2005, 01:12 PM
on the vtis rims 195/50/15 is about the most you can go, these tyres dont actually look really any wider than 185/55/15 cause the rim is quite narrow so it brings the side walls in a bit

racinghonda
13-08-2005, 10:12 PM
The Missus wants wider tyres for the Jazz and to go down a series in profile. I was thinking of 195/60/14, that put the speedo out only 1.1%. That would fit on the stock 14" rim right?

Fit1500_GD3
14-08-2005, 02:51 AM
My car FitGD3.......DUNLOP DIREZZA DZ101 205/45 R16.....SW388 Spoon :wave:

http://a0.cpimg.com/image/98/80/51056280-794b-028001E0-.jpg

http://a1.cpimg.com/image/99/80/51056281-8ba3-01E00280-.jpg

http://a2.cpimg.com/image/9A/80/51056282-c3ba-028001E0-.jpg

XESX
19-08-2005, 06:16 PM
Where can u get DZ101?

asiansquad
19-08-2005, 06:58 PM
My car FitGD3.......DUNLOP DIREZZA DZ101 205/45 R16.....SW388 Spoon :wave:

http://a0.cpimg.com/image/98/80/51056280-794b-028001E0-.jpg

http://a1.cpimg.com/image/99/80/51056281-8ba3-01E00280-.jpg

http://a2.cpimg.com/image/9A/80/51056282-c3ba-028001E0-.jpg

when u hit a bump or when you turn too fast..does ur tires hit the guards???

Dugby
07-01-2009, 11:58 AM
Hello All.

My 2004 Jazz VTi in Perth Australia, has German ATS alloys 16x7.5 (no spacers) with 205/45/16 ZR Hercules G5000Z tyres and with/without 4 adults in car, tyres do NOT rub nor hit guards under usual driving conditions.

http://atsmotorsport.de/ats/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=17&Itemid=27
http://www.herculestire.com/catalogHercules/herculesG5000Z.asp

There is still quite a lot of space, about 5-7cm to the guards, and the wheels/tyres do not stick out beyond the body.

040501912
07-01-2009, 01:18 PM
depends on your wheel offset too mate ;)

hoey888
13-01-2009, 02:58 PM
when u hit a bump or when you turn too fast..does ur tires hit the guards???

205/45/16 will not bottom out standard height on a gd3 (pre 08) jazz. Pretty much nearly impossible to scratch and bottom out.

just remember the jazz will look like a bit of a tractor if you put 205/45/16. however if you lower it then you'll get those problems like hitting your guards etc...

M@lew
13-01-2009, 08:22 PM
I have 205/45/16 on my Jazz and have it lowered. Haven't noticed any problems yet, but I haven't pushed it much either. (Put heaps of heavy things in etc.)

jeffreymui
13-01-2009, 08:26 PM
i use to have a mazda 121 with 14 inch alloy wheels.......i was running 195/55/14.....so i guess the 15" can go up to 205.....just run 55......if u get 45 or 50 (it'll look stupid) which u can if u go to a bridgestone dealer

h3ndr4
10-07-2009, 03:18 AM
Hey guys,

Will the rims size of 17x7.5 with 225/45/r17 tyres will fit jazz GE ? If it fits, any problem that i have to consider ?

Dreams
10-07-2009, 10:11 AM
Hey guys,

Will the rims size of 17x7.5 with 225/45/r17 tyres will fit jazz GE ? If it fits, any problem that i have to consider ?

the tyres too fat. i'd rock 205/40/17

kongfu
10-07-2009, 11:40 AM
Hey guys,

Will the rims size of 17x7.5 with 225/45/r17 tyres will fit jazz GE ? If it fits, any problem that i have to consider ?

225 is stupid which is for EP3 and DC5:cool:

205 should be ok but i wont run 17inch on jazz

h3ndr4
10-07-2009, 11:45 AM
Cheers guys for the info,

yeah the rims and wheels are coming from civic FD, I thought they will fit GE also :p

fundies
10-07-2009, 02:09 PM
Tried all rim sizes on the Jazz. 195/50/15 is the best ride handling compromise.

dyljoy
10-07-2009, 10:39 PM
if rim and tyre combo from civic FD, then i think they won fit GE due to FD is 5x114.3 and GE is 4x100, and from my exprience, I am rokon useing 17x7 with +50 offset should be safe on GE, due to my setting is 17x7 +42 still encounter roll the guard. and tyre what i using is 205/40/17 and they looks fine

040501912
11-07-2009, 02:04 AM
u can put +42 but u have to rolled the guard,
put chamber on it and 195 tyres

with 205 u cant lower the car as much ... lol..

best is +45 above! safest is +50 i know is hard to get but well its a challenge for you lol

dyljoy
11-07-2009, 02:06 AM
Totally agree with you, bro.

Dreams
11-07-2009, 11:21 AM
weak :p. lol

stephe102
13-07-2009, 01:44 PM
i have 15" +37 on 195/55 the guards are chewing my tyres!

kongfu
13-07-2009, 01:52 PM
i have 15" +37 on 195/55 the guards are chewing my tyres!

try 195/50/15

dyljoy
13-07-2009, 02:06 PM
+42 will be safe for GD model

stephe102
13-07-2009, 02:08 PM
damn does this mean i'll have to roll the guards?

kongfu
13-07-2009, 03:26 PM
+42 will be safe for GD model

offset wont do anything about hitting the guard my friend.

offset is about caliper and rims spoke design clearance.

+42 wont clear any big brake kit like project mu ,spoon only +35 offset does:D

kongfu
13-07-2009, 03:27 PM
damn does this mean i'll have to roll the guards?

has your jazz been lowered my friend?

well 195/50/15 is the most suitable tyres size for 15inch for jazz.

I assume your issue is having a higher profile tyres or you lowered too much?

let me know your situation so I can help you out.

dyljoy
13-07-2009, 04:51 PM
thanks for your info, I am noob for it, haha. but i think u are right about the point that not recon put 17inch on jazz.


offset wont do anything about hitting the guard my friend.

offset is about caliper and rims spoke design clearance.

+42 wont clear any big brake kit like project mu ,spoon only +35 offset does:D

040501912
14-07-2009, 01:43 AM
offset wont do anything about hitting the guard my friend.

offset is about caliper and rims spoke design clearance.

+42 wont clear any big brake kit like project mu ,spoon only +35 offset does:D

it does matter on jazz lol..
try to put +35 on GE jazz confirm the tyres will hit the guard if you dont have it rolled.

the tyre if its was wrong it will eat up the plastic guard lol.. + the width of the wheel its self will effect the changes you make.

here some quote from other forum


The offset of a wheel is the distance from its hub mounting surface to the centreline of the wheel. The offset can be one of three types;

Zero Offset

The hub mounting surface is even with the centreline of the wheel.


Positive

The hub mounting surface is toward the front or wheel side of the wheel. Positive offset wheels are generally found on front wheel drive cars and newer rear drive cars.

Negative

The hub mounting surface is toward the back or brake side of the wheels centreline. "Deep dish" wheels are typically a negative offset.



If the offset of the wheel is not correct for the car, the handling can be adversely affected. When the width of the wheel changes, the offset also changes numerically. If the offset were to stay the same while you added width, the additional width would be split evenly between the inside and outside. For most cars, this would not work correctly.


Wheel Offset Calculator
Use this calculator to determine the effect of changing your wheel width and offset.
http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp

aaronng
14-07-2009, 12:41 PM
offset wont do anything about hitting the guard my friend.

offset is about caliper and rims spoke design clearance.

+42 wont clear any big brake kit like project mu ,spoon only +35 offset does:D

Offset is how far the wheel sits from the hub centerline. So offset WILL affect whether the tyre hits the guard.

Offset is NOT the only factor when determining clearance with big brake kits. +35 offset on 15" rims won't clear a big rotor big brake 6-pot project mu caliper. The rim design, rim size will affect it as well.

mikoZ
14-07-2009, 01:24 PM
http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp

i think this probabely will give sum help

kongfu
14-07-2009, 01:38 PM
+35 offset on 15" rims won't clear a big rotor big brake 6-pot project mu caliper. The rim design, rim size will affect it as well.


have you experienced +35 offset 15inch rims for brake kit?

BTW project mu only got 4 pot brake kit available for FIT noob. http://project-mu.co.jp/matching-en/caliper/caliper_en-matching.html

+35 15inch will clear spoon calipers, project mu calipers without any clearance issue as my friend done it as well as some US forum members.

Have a close at AJ FIT spec

http://www.fitfreak.net/forums/aj-racing-com/18473-ajr-time-attack-fit-specification.html


Quote"

Suspension/brakes:

Spoon 4 pot calipers
AJR custom'ed 282mm rotors
Volk Racing RE30 15x7 +35mm offset

http://www.aj-racing.com/ajpwr/Fit/Fit07-10.jpg

also stephe102 issue is obviously having high profile tyres as I mentioned earlier, if you wanna discuss offset terminology open your own topic. seems like you enjoy to get involved every topic even you dont have experience about it. maybe thats the way you are.

Dreams
14-07-2009, 02:27 PM
hows a bloody offset question gets into a freakin 4 pots 6 pots or pots of crack??

read offset for dummies before making a statement about offset wont have affect hitting them guards. lol. Get your facts right, its not all about fake mugen shits.

rokkuchan
15-07-2009, 01:43 AM
hows a bloody offset question gets into a freakin 4 pots 6 pots or pots of crack??

read offset for dummies before making a statement about offset wont have affect hitting them guards. lol. Get your facts right, its not all about fake mugen shits.

Hahahaha.

040501912
15-07-2009, 04:31 AM
ROFL .. relax people!..

its not only the offset that plays in rims for BBK upgrade..
the type or the shape of the blades of the rims plays in part as well... have to keep in mind when choosing rims...

either u going for for 2 pot 4 pot 6 pot wat ever you want
D2 Ksport Spoom Spoon Fork Grex Willwood you name it lol

here we are talking about stock jazz with stock calipers who here in OZ honda have a BBK upgrade? i bet not more then 10 even 5 hands will pull out from the crowds

stephe102
15-07-2009, 03:07 PM
how much roughly are 195/50 15 tyres?

dlaloum
03-01-2010, 09:12 PM
Hi Guys

most of you are looking to lower the profile of your tyres...

I want to go the other way - higher profile / more compliant / better ride & reduced noise / improved comfort...

So that will make our 5 x 15" wheels (and 5 perfectly good tyres) redundant - whereas those of you that have upgraded to 15"/16"/17" should have a set of 5 x 14" wheels somewhere spare...

Here's hoping some of you performance types have spare parts for those of us more interested in comfort

thanks

David