cvic vti-r potential please read.

[nugget666]

i dont know that much about hondas. i was wondering the the b16a2 engine in the civic potential is. i couldnt find any threads on this when i searched.

if i were to do these mods( below) in a civic coupe vti-r . with 114 - 118kw at the treds. what could i expect my 1/4 mile to be and my 0 - 100. any ruff estimates also say im a above average driver. Also another question are coupe vti-rs hard to find ? .

Medium budget – Stop @ ECU
#1 – Lightweight flywheel
#2 – Heavy duty clutch
#3 – Lower final drive (Eg: ATS)
#4 – Intake (CAI – Eg: Injen / Mugen)
#5 – Header + cat + cat-back system
#6 – Spec C camshafts / valve springs / adjustable cam pulleys / oil pump gear /

fuel pump - optional / fuel pressure regulator - optional / ECU / dyno tuning.
Power output: 114~118kw @ wheels (Dyno dynamics – shootout)



thanks guys.

[mini_s2000]

the b16a has great potential in any means... if your looking for good times, i would do some simple mods to begin with. eg
good 4-1 headers, cold air intake, then strip your cars interior to the bones...lol. oh yeah, and some good tyres!

[nugget666]

yeah i was originaly going to look for an accord i still want to. but i want somthing with a little kick in the pants. so i thought civic coupes i always loved them. just means i have to save more moeny :O. or i was thiking find a low kay 96 - 97 prelude. i am unsure what to do now. what the chances find a a low kay vti-r coupe civ? oir a low kay 96 - 97 prelude.

anyone got stock times on these. and a guess on what times itwould do after thoses mods.

[ekslut]

The B16 has huge tuning potential. But dont get too hung up about 1/4 mile times. Hondas are fanatastic all round cars, and will out handle most cars out there. But if you want something quick down the 1/4 look at Nissans...

But if you have 114-118kw @ wheels, my guesstimate would be mid to low 14's...

[alphabeatsco]

get the b16a!!!
it's cool...fast lil car.
but it's torqueless....

[nugget666]

1/4 cars dont fase me that much iwas just wondering what it would be . i would prefer somthing quick 0 - 100 then somthing good at 1/4mile. im just wondering at the price im looking at for a vti-r civic coupe and a vtir prelude. what would out perform 0 - 100

i know coupe is what 1100kg prelude is 1300kg ??

[nugget666]

sorry for double posting but. if i couldnt find a vti-r coupe would i be better of getting a vti coupe or and vti accord? or stick looking for a vti-r? opinions whats a vtri civic like are they dogs balls nothing compared to a vti-r?

[barefootbonzai]

vti's are alright. But if you are talking about potential and aftermarket support, VTIR is 238974902384 times better.

But if you looking at 1-100km/h times, there's no need to even go that far. the Vti would be just as fast, if not faster than the Vtir's for that.

[EGB16A]

vti's are alright. But if you are talking about potential and aftermarket support, VTIR is 238974902384 times better.

But if you looking at 1-100km/h times, there's no need to even go that far. the Vti would be just as fast, if not faster than the Vtir's for that.

really? how come?

[nugget666]

vti's are alright. But if you are talking about potential and aftermarket support, VTIR is 238974902384 times better.

But if you looking at 1-100km/h times, there's no need to even go that far. the Vti would be just as fast, if not faster than the Vtir's for that

really? how come?


care to enlighting us a bit more?

[bennjamin]

guys this has been covered in a larger thread - LOOK right above.

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19495

[nugget666]

bang for buck has power out put of mods and things but i was wondering of times it would do.

[BlitZ]

all that is about 6- 7k....
alot of money

[Weq]

turbo

13'2-12's on a stock motor.

[SiR]

But if you looking at 1-100km/h times, there's no need to even go that far. the Vti would be just as fast, if not faster than the Vtir's for that.

A VTi faster than a VTi-R? Who are you kidding?

[Encor3]

A VTi faster than a VTi-R? Who are you kidding?
yea thats weird ... im not saying your wrong but how could
SOHC > DOHC..
they still weigh pretty much the same, you would need a big difference in weight to even start considering Vti is quicker than Vti-r

[00' coupe]

VTi faster than a VTiR... u hav to b kidding!!! they weigh pretty much the same and the VTiR has 20-25kw more... torque wise there about the same aswell...

if u want something wit a kick in the pants, than go the VTiR civic or prelude without a doubt... especially if ur looking at doin those mods...

Also if u find a civic coupe in good nik, grab it nice a quick...

[barefootbonzai]

A VTi faster than a VTi-R? Who are you kidding?

Read the post before jumping to conclusions. I didn't say that the vti is faster than the vtir. If you are just comparing 0-100 times, the sohc has much faster response compared with the dohc. Off the line you won't find much difference between the 2. It's only when you're in 3rd gear that the vtir's shine.

Feel free to go test it out for yourself. Let me know once you've actually tried how you went.

[J-MuN]

A Civic Coupe VTi-R (EM1) is a great daily driver. It has enough power when u need it and it's

fuel economical. For town use, I think its good enough, when you need the power you can

always give it a little. The only downside i can think of, is the lack of torque and isnt

very responsive when they are stock but with the basic I/H/E mods, it'll be more than enough...


Read the post before jumping to conclusions. I didn't say that the vti is faster than the vtir.
but once vtec kicks in, in first gear, the VTi-R will pull away.. the difference

in the b16 vtec and d16 vtec is pretty noticable IMO...

[Hairysk8er]

I have been on the line with VTi's before and i havn't lost yet, the VTi-R doesn't fly away tho. The Vti's can keep up

[na]

i agree...the d series vtec can really keep up ...

[Lukezen27]

i agree...the d series vtec can really keep up ...

I like you :p

[00' coupe]

i tried a VTi off the line n i told them to tak off first n i still won... top of 1st gear we were side by side (i caught it in one gear) den gone... VTiRs r quickier 0-100km from experience n should win by a car at least... VTi's arent slow 0-100km but jst a bit slower than VTiRs

in light of moddin an engine i would go the b16... it has more potential wen modifyin it IMO...

[Encor3]

in light of moddin an engine i would go the b16... it has more potential wen modifyin it IMO...
and larger variety of parts

[SiR]

Read the post before jumping to conclusions. I didn't say that the vti is faster than the vtir. If you are just comparing 0-100 times, the sohc has much faster response compared with the dohc. Off the line you won't find much difference between the 2.

Yes I did read the post - evidently, so did a few others that were equally baffled by your 'statement'.


But if you looking at 1-100km/h times, there's no need to even go that far. the Vti would be just as fast, if not faster than the Vtir's for that.

Perhaps you should read your own post again..:rolleyes:

[barefootbonzai]

All i know is in my sohc NON-VTEC hatch, I have beaten all B16's that have come my way too 100. Just telling you guys not to understimate.

[genesis]

barefootbonzai... lets race!

[barefootbonzai]

hehehe, now that's more like it. We gotta meet up soon man. :thumbsup:

[ek004]

yeah VTI-R's suck...

Back to the original post, i think you should be able to manage low 14's with setup you posted. Try it and let us know how you go, I would love to know what times you run.

:)

[Limbo]

i've never seen a VTi beat a VTI-R at all, either street or track. Especially down the 1/4 mile. Let me know how you guys go down the track...

[zoopsta]

limbo, incase you didnt realise, they're not saying the vti beats the vti-r down the track.

read some earlier posts and you will realise that they're comparing 0-100km times and how the vti can keep up with the vti-r, if not beat it (maybe)