What do you hate about the Euro?

[Fredoops]

I love it how you over simplify everything.
And the Evo is just a lancer with a turbo! :rolleyes:
Skin of a Mitsubushi, heart of a hyundai. Add turbo



LOL at people saying the IS-F is as unecessary to the IS350 as the Golf R is to the GTI... get a clue -.-... might aswell downgrade from a euro to a honda jazz using that logic
I was referring to being better than the Euro.

[buddah51au]

I'd be worried with a 'hero' plate like that lol! They do go hard though!


Just need to keep your licence mate

[Type R Positive]

Just need to keep your licence mateToo right! I drive everywhere on cruise control. I think it's saved my licence 100 times over lol! Even better is I have never had a speeding ticket!!!

It will be harder in this car, just hold the pedal down for 2-3 seconds and you've already added a good 70-80km/h to your speed! :angel:

[MR_LATE]

Skin of a Mitsubushi, heart of a hyundai. Add turbo

hahahahhaha

[jbzonda]

umm, so back to topic!

one thing that annoys me is the door lock little thingy, "pull up stick thing on the top of the door" (sorry forgot what they are called!)
1. when you lock the car they dont go all the way down, and still looks like the car is unlocked.
2. when you want to lean your arm on the door with the window down its in the exact spot i want to put my arm!

im considering somehow shortening them so they pop all the way down....

[MR_LATE]

umm, so back to topic!

one thing that annoys me is the door lock little, "pull up stick thing on the top of the door" (sorry forgot what they are called!)
1. when you lock the car they dont go all the way down, and still looks like the car is unlocked.
2. when you want to lean your arm on the door with the window down its in the exact spot i want to put my arm!

im considering somehow shortening them so they pop all the way down....

omg i know exactly what u mean.. i hate it too

[marquee]

Yer me too but i sit far enough back my arm sits close to the b pillar. I wouldnt recommend shortening it to much as it is used to keep the metal bar that locks and unlocks your doors in place not sure if you can unscrew them but if you can maybe 8mm cut will be enough i think to make it flush

[jbzonda]

Exactly Marquee, i wouldnt even mind if it popped up 2-3mm and that way it still helps the metal bar stay in place

[Type R Positive]

Another thing that shits me is having to press the unlock button twice to unlock all the friggin doors!

[marquee]

I dont have to do that..... But one other thing that annoys me is every time i put my sunnys away they come out dirty

[MR_LATE]

yeah but its a 'safety' thing :D... it really annoys my gf when i forget to press it twice lol

[jbzonda]

really? my euro doesnt do that? 1 click and all doors unlock, i thought it was unusuall that i did not happen? my previous 7 years older magna had that feature.

anyone know whether that can be changed?

[I CU2]

I think two clicks to unlock all doors is a CU2 thing.

[Type R Positive]

Yeah, CU2 thing. My CL9 didn't do it.

[Lazarus]

umm, so back to topic!

one thing that annoys me is the door lock little thingy, "pull up stick thing on the top of the door" (sorry forgot what they are called!)
1. when you lock the car they dont go all the way down, and still looks like the car is unlocked.
2. when you want to lean your arm on the door with the window down its in the exact spot i want to put my arm!

im considering somehow shortening them so they pop all the way down....

Agreed with the others too!
That is annoying as hell, even my gf's jazz and dad's toyota have the lock where the door open thing is at.
For a 'luxury' car, it's a pretty annoying and doesn't look very...suave~

[I CU2]

But the Euro isn't a luxury car ;L.

The stick locks were common in older generations of cars, though they got rid of it in the CU2.

[Fredoops]

But the Euro isn't a luxury car ;L.

The stick locks were common in older generations of cars, though they got rid of it in the CU2.

Its markets as a entry level executive in europe and a entry level luxury car in America....

[I CU2]

Its markets as a entry level executive in europe and a entry level luxury car in America....

I thought the TSX served in the niche market between your normal Japs and the likes of the entry IS250?

[Lazarus]

Well, when i meant 'luxury' i don't mean the high class stuff, but still somewhat luxury compared to the others but im sure u get it.
I understand that most older cars have stick locks however if the cl9 can open all its windows with the remote and (recently discovered) close said windows with key in door + heated seats + rain senor wipers.
You would think it could continue its 'luxurious-ness' by changing the stick lock to sidedoor locks or w/e.
just my 2 cents....and rant. lol

[MR_LATE]

so i went car hopping yesterday, and last placed i looked was at honda, facelift euro interior trim feels so rough. you're definitely will be seeing alot of dead skin from ur elbows on the centre console and drivers/passenger door arm rests. def prefer first gen cu2 alot more.

(and WTF is a honda city?!!? its worse than the jazz!

[buddah51au]

so i went car hopping yesterday, and last placed i looked was at honda, facelift euro interior trim feels so rough. you're definitely will be seeing alot of dead skin from ur elbows on the centre console and drivers/passenger door arm rests. def prefer first gen cu2 alot more.

(and WTF is a honda city?!!? its worse than the jazz!


You have to be kidding, to me the new interior trim is better quality & no less comfortable after a 3 hour trip.

[antony]

so i went car hopping yesterday, and last placed i looked was at honda, facelift euro interior trim feels so rough. you're definitely will be seeing alot of dead skin from ur elbows on the centre console and drivers/passenger door arm rests. def prefer first gen cu2 alot more.

(and WTF is a honda city?!!? its worse than the jazz!

I think its almost identical,with the new one having a few extra features and better value for money...

[MR_LATE]

You have to be kidding, to me the new interior trim is better quality & no less comfortable after a 3 hour trip.

how old are you bhudda? im saying its feel very rough :S maybe its my age and in time i will like diff things, like i never used to like weather shields but now i love em

I think its almost identical,with the new one having a few extra features and better value for money...
just talking about fabric this time.. u definately get alot more for ya money this time. just had an insight for four days.. bluetooth/usb/rear parking sensors/ paddleshifts.. .auto... so when i hop into mine, NO BLUTOOTHE! now noone can hear me have phone sex while in carparks and crowded areas D:

[buddah51au]

I am a lot older than you

[mugen_ctr]

been driving my bros CL9n few things to note, feels too big lol, maybe im just to use to a small civic and feels too high.... Engine feels great, but i find all the torque is found around the 3k rpm range, so that means i gotta keep the revs a bit high to get goin, but once im in the torque band, it feels like a V6, weight of the car is so much more noticeable, and a major thing i notice is the top end of the k24 isnt that great, it kinda runs outta puff after 4th gear, keeps going but doesnt seem to want to go faster (In a closed environment) but other wise i think the cl9 euro is a fantastic car

everything else is a pro, especially the GB, nice and tight, much like a S2k

[I CU2]

(and WTF is a honda city?!!? its worse than the jazz!

lol. The City is so awkward in the Honda lineup. Less practical than a Jazz and only a bit more for a Civic.

What a joke.

[Type R Positive]

City = Jazz sedan.

[MR_LATE]

I am a lot older than you

i can tell.. considering going hervey bay but its 4 hours away bhudda!

anyway. maybe when i get older ill like diff things.. but to me the new fabric does feel rough(maybe cus its new?)


lol. The City is so awkward in the Honda lineup. Less practical than a Jazz and only a bit more for a Civic.

What a joke.

its just so weird. the interior is just wrong. WRONG!

[marquee]

I hate that the euro is not a hatch probably going to sell this soon. I miss my small car

[Fredoops]

I hate that the euro is not a hatch probably going to sell this soon. I miss my small car
didnt you just blow like 2 grand on mods?

[marquee]

didnt you just blow like 2 grand on mods?

Meh..

[Type R Positive]

I hate that the euro is not a hatch probably going to sell this soon. I miss my small carMaybe not a hatch, but hate it's not a 'medium' sedan anymore. My CL9 was perfect size! My CU2 is just a fat porker, with no more room inside than before! My ISF is smaller lol!

[I CU2]

I hate that the euro is not a hatch probably going to sell this soon. I miss my small car

Prius.

[marquee]

Prius.

Pfft. Ep3r or golf

[antony]

Pfft. Ep3r or golf

Golfs quality is nowhere near as good as the Euro...beware.

[marquee]

Im 22 lol quality is not what im after... Either is an ep3r but they both are much better cars in terms of performance

[MR_LATE]

drive insight . get flowers

[Type R Positive]

New beetle! :p

[MR_LATE]

New beetle! :p

theres a new beetle?

[denot]

Im 22 lol quality is not what im after... Either is an ep3r but they both are much better cars in terms of performance

get some turbocharged EK or EG if you just after power. EP3R... meh

[Fredoops]

theres a new beetle?

You're not missing much, looks just like the old one.


Pfft. Ep3r or golf
Skoda vRS wagon

[Type R Positive]

Skoda vRS wagonCome on man, we have standards here lol!

[MR_LATE]

come on man, we have standards here lol!

cmon! Weve got aquired tastes!

[Type R Positive]

cmon! We've got acquired tastes!:cool: lol!

[I CU2]

cmon! Weve got aquired tastes!

Chery J1?

[Fredoops]

Come on man, we have standards here lol!

Standard? Honda? Really? LOL

hey hey, it's Honda's problem for not bringing the "sportswagon" here.

[MR_LATE]

Standard? Honda? Really? LOL

hey hey, it's Honda's problem for not bringing the "sportswagon" here.

anyone knolw the reason for them not bringing it here?

[ryaan]

the ceo couldnt be fckd thats why. thats why theres not much cars in the honda range :)

[antony]

The Euro wagon would be AMAZING,I recently saw them overseas,and they look just as good as the sedan...

[MR_LATE]

honda people said cus itll deter people away from the oddyssey...
gay

[ryaan]

maybe the honda office people should have a look at this forum and see what people actually wants.. not some crap that they think people want.. eg... CITY

[Fredoops]

the ceo couldnt be fckd thats why. thats why theres not much cars in the honda range :)

Hey that should be Honda's New Motto: "Couldn't be f**ked"

Euro Wagon: Couldn't be f**ked
Euro diesel: Couldn't be f**ked
F1: Couldn't be f**ked
Integra: Couldn't be f**ked
Prelude: Couldn't be f**ked
Advanced VTEC: Couldn't be f**ked
Customer Loyalty: Couldn't be f**ked

[I CU2]

^ City makes up for all of that lol

[ryaan]

Hey that should be Honda's New Motto: "Couldn't be f**ked"

Euro Wagon: Couldn't be f**ked
Euro diesel: Couldn't be f**ked
F1: Couldn't be f**ked
Integra: Couldn't be f**ked
Prelude: Couldn't be f**ked
Advanced VTEC: Couldn't be f**ked
Customer Loyalty: Couldn't be f**ked

thats how i really see it... :)
i really thought they were doing something good with avtec until they canned it... and went with hybrids (y)

[jzx_andy]

maybe the honda office people should have a look at this forum and see what people actually wants.. not some crap that they think people want.. eg... CITY

you really think a company that spends a shit load of money on marketing has not done this kind of research? i am quite sure they understand that ozhonda is a very very poor representation for the australian honda customer base ;)

but yes there are loads of cars which i wish manufacturers had brought in (it aint just honda... look at toyota and nissan!)... i guess the fact that they are rarer makes them more desireable aswell!

[marquee]

Nissan juke r... Skyline gtr engine in a hatch omg

[Type R Positive]

maybe the honda office people should have a look at this forum and see what people actually wants.. not some crap that they think people want.. eg... CITYYou know they sell a shit load more city's than ciciv type r's right?

[ryaan]

you really think a company that spends a shit load of money on marketing has not done this kind of research? i am quite sure they understand that ozhonda is a very very poor representation for the australian honda customer base ;)

but yes there are loads of cars which i wish manufacturers had brought in (it aint just honda... look at toyota and nissan!)... i guess the fact that they are rarer makes them more desireable aswell!

well i do agree that ozhonda may be a bad representation of the australian market.. but if theyve got the market research right.. at least they wudve got the diesel euro. to the very least.. then probably a euro wagon.. we all know a typical growing aussie family (in general) loves the grunty diesels

[ryaan]

You know they sell a shit load more city's than ciciv type r's right?

well yes i do know that.. maybe the city was a bad example.. and ive got noothing aginst it.. but i think its just badly positioned or priced. i remember the difference between the vti civic and city when i was looking for a car 2 years back was like 1-2k.. and for that 2k sacrifice.. you get a smaller engine, smaller car, inferior interior etc.. if they wna charge a premium for the city.. they better put in more features :)

[Type R Positive]

well yes i do know that.. maybe the city was a bad example.. and ive got noothing aginst it.. but i think its just badly positioned or priced. i remember the difference between the vti civic and city when i was looking for a car 2 years back was like 1-2k.. and for that 2k sacrifice.. you get a smaller engine, smaller car, inferior interior etc.. if they wna charge a premium for the city.. they better put in more features :)That's like the euro > civic. Civic BIG drop in quality....

[ryaan]

That's like the euro > civic. Civic BIG drop in quality....

but the euros like 8k more expensive :P as opposed to the 1-2k difference between civic and cityyyyyy

[Type R Positive]

well i do agree that ozhonda may be a bad representation of the australian market.. but if theyve got the market research right.. at least they wudve got the diesel euro. to the very least.. then probably a euro wagon.. we all know a typical growing aussie family (in general) loves the grunty diesels
They only had a manual to start with? And they would cost a good $5k extra over the petrol model. They did their homework..... Still too young for diesel sedans here IMO.

[MR_LATE]

this shud be..what u hate about honda thread

[Type R Positive]

but the euros like 8k more expensive :P as opposed to the 1-2k difference between civic and cityyyyyy
not when you compare equiv spec cars, which would be the sport, which is still crappy.
the City is WAY overpriced.....

[I CU2]

How come the City is cheaper than the Jazz in Thailand but more expensive here :l

[Fredoops]

you really think a company that spends a shit load of money on marketing has not done this kind of research? i am quite sure they understand that ozhonda is a very very poor representation for the australian honda customer base ;)

but yes there are loads of cars which i wish manufacturers had brought in (it aint just honda... look at toyota and nissan!)... i guess the fact that they are rarer makes them more desireable aswell!

From the direction of Honda market share and sales figures going in the past 3 years, Honda'd probably want to get a new marketing firm to do their work.

I reckon we're a pretty good representation of the market here.

When the existing owners and fun boys start to say negative things about the way the company is going and the next car they are buying (VW *cough*), thats a pretty clear sign/warning

[MR_LATE]

does a honda lawn mower hit vtec? hehehe

[ryaan]

From the direction of Honda market share and sales figures going in the past 3 years, Honda'd probably want to get a new marketing firm to do their work.

I reckon we're a pretty good representation of the market here.

When the existing owners and fun boys start to say negative things about the way the company is going and the next car they are buying (VW *cough*), thats a pretty clear sign/warning

+1 if fanboys says sh*t about honda then its no good :S