what strength HID?

[raff]

hey guys,
im going to get a set of HID'S but im not too sure on the strength to get!
in regards to the kelvin temp of them what would you recommend ?

people say over 6000k is no good but im tempted to go for something like 8000k? what are the pro's n cons of this? and is 6500k sufficient?

thanx in advance!

[type one]

4300K is standard OEM on Honda (ie S2K and Euro). Any higher and IMO it looks shit and more prone to unnecessary cop attention.

[jackosimm]

more prone to unnecessary cop attention.

Bingo mate:thumbsup:

[jamchen]

true... i'd say 5000k will be just good... dun go anything over 7000k... it will be more blueish colour rather than white... but if you go for the colour 7000k is good...
in regards to the cops attention... 7000k might still be safe with them becoz when you look at those european cars with hid which have projectors.. you tend to see very blue, purple for reflection... i guess cops are also hard to define them...lol (fingures crossed)
you can even see these blue reflections on holden cars even thought we know they are halogens...

[VTC-8OY]

8000K is perfect!!

[raff]

any1 with 6500k? what are they like? wats the color like?

[barefootbonzai]

i gots 6500, they are pretty much just white and bright, the way i like it.

[jackosimm]

i gots 6500, they are pretty much just white and bright, the way i like it.

is that women or HID ur talkin about hehe.
Im still sticking by the police attention factor for stronger ones, it definitly does look nicer on the positive side.

[red-vtir]

i have 8000k on mine blue and bright the way HID should be

[Chris_F]

i dont think a higher kelvin rating indicates that the lights are "stronger" , merely an indication of colour/ temperature the lights burn at - 8000k plus lights emit less visible light than those rated at 4300k. At least i think thats how it works

[raff]

cheers barefootbonzai thats wat i want...white n bright!!

thanx guys i think ima go either 6500 or 7000k ill c how i go.

[barefootbonzai]

is that women or HID ur talkin about hehe.
Im still sticking by the police attention factor for stronger ones, it definitly does look nicer on the positive side.

lol, i like your thinking

[alphabeatsco]

there was a chart of what diff KELVIN, the colors would look like.
search around.

[joonix]

Anything above 5000K is stupid. I'd be more inclined to draw the line at 4300K, but the temperature does decay with time.

The higher rated globes produce LESS light then the lower rated globes. They just appear to be brighter due to their white or blue tinge. Additionally they are absolutly usless and consequently dangerous when driving through rain or fog. The white/ blue light cannot 'cut' (im sure there is a better scientific word for this) throught the water particles effictvely. You will be able to see sweet **** all.

They are cop bait for a good reason. Do not fit them.

[barefootbonzai]

Anything above 5000K is stupid. I'd be more inclined to draw the line at 4300K, but the temperature does decay with time.

The higher rated globes produce LESS light then the lower rated globes. They just appear to be brighter due to their white or blue tinge. Additionally they are absolutly usless and consequently dangerous when driving through rain or fog. The white/ blue light cannot 'cut' (im sure there is a better scientific word for this) throught the water particles effictvely. You will be able to see sweet **** all.

They are cop bait for a good reason. Do not fit them.

lol, just read 2 post on HID's. Bottom line is don't get them or joonix will report your ass!!!!!

[jamchen]

well.. its what the fog and high beam there for:D:P
that's why i keep my fog OEM so i am assured that even in foggy or rain the on-coming traffic will see me through the yellow halogens... like the old Legend or lexus gs300 which comes with OEM HID and they both have pure yellow fogs...

[joonix]

lol, just read 2 post on HID's. Bottom line is don't get them or joonix will report your ass!!!!!

Did you comprehend my posts? Do you disagree and have a facts to back you up, or are you just being an ignorant tool?

I have absolutely no problems with correctly retro fitted HID systems comprised of OEM components, and correctly rated globes. I do have a problem with uneducated people on forums and dodgy retailers spreading miss-information.

Your vehicles lighting is a very important safety system. Don't put your self and others in uneccissary danger, even if the likelyhood is remote. I can't believe people are willing to sacrifice safety for a blue tinge that any knowledagble motor enthusiast would discount as try hard rice.

[bubblecivic]

Did you comprehend my posts? Do you disagree and have a facts to back you up, or are you just being an ignorant tool?

I have absolutely no problems with correctly retro fitted HID systems comprised of OEM components, and correctly rated globes. I do have a problem with uneducated people on forums and dodgy retailers spreading miss-information.

Your vehicles lighting is a very important safety system. Don't put your self and others in uneccissary danger, even if the likelyhood is remote. I can't believe people are willing to sacrifice safety for a blue tinge that any knowledagble motor enthusiast would discount as try hard rice.

Hello Joonix

So what would you recommend in terms of kelvin for the most effect lighting? For e.g. Raff here is after the brighest and whitest lighting, what would you recommend? I'm asking as I'm after H.I.D's aswell.

[joonix]

Hello Joonix

So what would you recommend in terms of kelvin for the most effect lighting? For e.g. Raff here is after the brighest and whitest lighting, what would you recommend? I'm asking as I'm after H.I.D's aswell.

The higher you go in kelvin, the less light and lumens you'll have. Pratically anything over 6k is really a waste if your at all concerned with your safety and brightness of lighting.

4100-4300k has the most lumens out of all the HID bulbs produced. Thats why vehicles manufacturers fit them to their vehicles.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/haknslash2003/hid%20pics/FlourescentsA.jpg

As you can see, 4100-4300K is where its at.

Note that there really is no standard equipment to measure this. That's not to say that teh equipment out there differs extremely. Be aware though, that one manufacturers 5000K is anothers 4500K.

The rating does decay a little after time. Hence, I feel that when included in a correctly setup HID system, ~5000K is also acceptable, but I would also have auxillary yellow fog lights fitted incase you do get stuck in bad weather.

Remember, whitest does not equal brightest.

[redliner]

i reckon 8000k is alrite, because 6000k without retrofit is way too bright and can blind pplz.. i seen them in Integra (bright as). So higher temp like 8000k is less brighter than 6000k which makes it less blinding :)

[raff]

true redlines but at the same time like joonix said it will emit less light so probs works against ya at the same time!!


6000k is the way to go!

[ACTI0NMAN-1]

more info here

http://www.everbright21.com/hid/xenon_light.htm


http://www.everbright21.com/hid/img/bj6%5B1%5D.jpg

[jdmcivic]

About 4200k for more lighting and above that is just for looks and less visability then normal.

[Boost]

thats right... it depends what ur after...bling or practicality.. anything above 5000k is bling...

[zoopsta]

dont factory HID's have a greater level of output than standard halogens? (ie. its brighter and u can see more of the road)

If so, wouldnt it be OK to get HID with a slightly higher kelvin rating because it would still be better than halogens?
or am i completely wrong and do standard HID's use halogen bulbs instead of xenon ones?

[XESX]

personally i like 12000K.....very good looking and ricey...hehehe
but the yellow bulbs is actually brighter then HID that overs 8000K...thats my personal opinion....

[infurNOS]

would a 55w 6000k globe look bright than 35w 6000k globe?

[NightKids]

Yes the 55W are heaps brighter than 35W. Try to avoid the 55W as they are too bright and produces heaps of glare for other people.

35W is more than enough.

[infurNOS]

Yes the 55W are heaps brighter than 35W. Try to avoid the 55W as they are too bright and produces heaps of glare for other people.

35W is more than enough.

less risk of blowing fuses and felting factory wires?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200422024000

iw as gonna buy the above kit and im so noob to this its not funny

[mugen_ctr]

anything over 8000k is asking for trouble.. u cant see jack all an its nothing more than a wank factor... 8000k is what i have, its pretty much white with a hint of blue, 6000k is as white as u can get

Standard hid i think are like 4300k last i checked

[infurNOS]

ill be getting the 6000k 35w kit

[SuperJDM.]

so has anyone got done for having bright HIDs yet lol

[blabla]

I know someone that can get hid starting from 3.5k and up i personally think that 4.3k is the way to go.. i 6k in my car and my misses has 4.3k with projectors and its got good vision. i might be changing mine to 4.3k

[dc292177917]

4300k looks stock, draws no attention from dogs;
5000k is perfectly balanced between stance and practical-ness imo

[krayzie]

ill be getting the 6000k 35w kit

How did the kit work out???

[infurNOS]

How did the kit work out???

awesome! so much brighter and the slight tinge of blue looks great! the light also appears a lot 'cleaner'. I jsut havent got around to adjusting the globes yet. I will post some pics but i dont have a before shot :(

[curtis265]

here's my input guys... You don't have to agree with me, but i saw some craazy posts back there...

As for cop attention, i never had any considering my car wasn't a full on ricemachine. Just a stockie FD with 35w 6000k HID's. The glare was no worse than what you'd get from a 4wd with badly aimed headlights. (My headlights are however, designed for HID's.. they just don't meet ADR requirements without washers and auto-levellers)


i have 8000k on mine blue and bright the way HID should be

Clueless ricer.


i reckon 8000k is alrite, because 6000k without retrofit is way too bright and can blind pplz.. i seen them in Integra (bright as). So higher temp like 8000k is less brighter than 6000k which makes it less blinding :)

6000k isn't too bright, it's glarey cos of all the extra blue. 8000k produces fkall useable light and more glare. If you think someone's HID's are bright you're just in their glare


dont factory HID's have a greater level of output than standard halogens? (ie. its brighter and u can see more of the road)

If so, wouldnt it be OK to get HID with a slightly higher kelvin rating because it would still be better than halogens?
or am i completely wrong and do standard HID's use halogen bulbs instead of xenon ones?

You'd probably be OK going up to 5000K.


personally i like 12000K.....very good looking and ricey...hehehe
but the yellow bulbs is actually brighter then HID that overs 8000K...thats my personal opinion....

lol 12000K! You're crazy! the stock halogens would probably be brighter than 800k


less risk of blowing fuses and felting factory wires?
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200422024000
iw as gonna buy the above kit and im so noob to this its not funny

of course... but ur stock lights are 55w anyway, so you'd be safe. Don't do it though cos you'll produce ridiculous amounts of glare.


anything over 8000k is asking for trouble.. u cant see jack all an its nothing more than a wank factor... 8000k is what i have, its pretty much white with a hint of blue, 6000k is as white as u can get

Standard hid i think are like 4300k last i checked

8000 is already wank factor 6000k is still a bit blue (to look at) IMO. 5000 is the pure white


4300k looks stock, draws no attention from dogs;
5000k is perfectly balanced between stance and practical-ness imo

:thumbsup:

[krayzie]

awesome! so much brighter and the slight tinge of blue looks great! the light also appears a lot 'cleaner'. I jsut havent got around to adjusting the globes yet. I will post some pics but i dont have a before shot :(

Did they fit Into stock headlamps?? Thanks

[infurNOS]

Did they fit Into stock headlamps?? Thanks

yes with no hassles at all. The kit i bought was perfect for my car....the ball breaker was finding a place to mount the ballasts. The only bit of modding i had to do was make the rubber cover hole bigger that fits over the globe housing and extending the ground wire to the battery 10 cm.