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2MPRSS
16-08-2005, 04:41 PM
be4 i turbo my b18c i wanted to make sure what kind of boost i can push it to which is also safe,online is telling me with 10 psi i should have no porblems ,everyone else is telling me no no max 8 or 9 psi,i dont wana blow anything what are your thoughts? it will have an aftermarket ecu also will be tuned by dyno dave when the time comes.

fly_vti
16-08-2005, 04:47 PM
its always better to be safe then sorry my begginer learner.... lol jokes. just run 8 pounds less engine wear, b16a with stock internals at 7psi does 13.6qtr mile b18c and 8 psi should to 13 flat. thats fast enough man... get a boost controller, when u want to race someone. jack it up to 10psi. but always leave it abotu 8psi i wrekon! :)

but sad to see...weak you have become, :thumbdwn: you have betrayed hondas n/a technology and gone to the dark side... enemy you now are. :p ;)

Teggy-Vtir
16-08-2005, 05:00 PM
ill tell u wen i get my car bak.
adrian from toda is tunin my car

2MPRSS
16-08-2005, 05:05 PM
ill tell u wen i get my car bak.
adrian from toda is tunin my car

u turbo ur b18c?stock internals?

Weq
16-08-2005, 05:06 PM
get a turbo that has a nice effiency around the 8-12psi mark, and u will love it ;)

Teggy-Vtir
16-08-2005, 05:12 PM
u turbo ur b18c?stock internals?

yup sure did

2MPRSS
16-08-2005, 05:15 PM
what did adrian say its safe to run? 10 psi?

2MPRSS
16-08-2005, 05:17 PM
get a turbo that has a nice effiency around the 8-12psi mark, and u will love it ;)

i am looking to boost it to the 25 - 28 psi mark one day

HRV-80Y
16-08-2005, 05:17 PM
wouldnt it be safer 2 change internals such as forged pistons and piston rings ? if you are turbo'in...

speak 2 qball im guessin his car is similar to what you guys hav dun n will do but jus witout vtec...

Teggy-Vtir
16-08-2005, 05:18 PM
hm.. 8 to b safe.

2MPRSS
16-08-2005, 05:27 PM
i do have money for internals but not enough to sleeve it,not worth taking the block apart again just to sleeve it will do the block all at once later

Weq
16-08-2005, 05:43 PM
i am looking to boost it to the 25 - 28 psi mark one day

a turbo that is suited for 28psi is going to be a dog and in-efficent at 10psi. Its totally different setup. Dont try and make a setup that will work for u later on, u will have to sell 80% of the parts u make for a stock internals setup.

2MPRSS
16-08-2005, 05:48 PM
a turbo that is suited for 28psi is going to be a dog and in-efficent at 10psi. Its totally different setup. Dont try and make a setup that will work for u later on, u will have to sell 80% of the parts u make for a stock internals setup.
yep i already thought of that,im geting a setup that will last more power in the future(400 hp) i thought about that hard :p

fly_vti
16-08-2005, 06:10 PM
i know a guy selling a nissan exa turbo. to suit your application!:)

2MPRSS
16-08-2005, 06:26 PM
shut da **** up dont post here if it has nothing to do with what my thread title is...mod please warn him of consenquences if he keeps urging himself to post on this thread like that lol

HRV-80Y
16-08-2005, 06:59 PM
btw u got air con in ur car 2mprss ?

2MPRSS
16-08-2005, 07:30 PM
no air con,its gay and takes up useless room

fly_vti
16-08-2005, 07:33 PM
shut da **** up dont post here if it has nothing to do with what my thread title is...mod please warn him of consenquences if he keeps urging himself to post on this thread like that lol

it does have something to do with your thread, its turbo related. i know the consequnces. i dont need your education. ;)

saxman
17-08-2005, 03:19 AM
really hard to give an arbitrary pressure number, as there is a lot more to consider than just psi

BADHBT
17-08-2005, 09:15 AM
i do have money for internals but not enough to sleeve it,not worth taking the block apart again just to sleeve it will do the block all at once later




tubocharging a stock engine then taking it all off and building the internals later........ you do realize that this will end up costing you more!

1. spend money putting it in
2. spend money making it run (mis stuff)
3. spend money taking it off
4. spend money building the block/head
5. spend money putting it in again

it will be wise just to get another long block and build that, then sell your old one later once its done!

your car runs/runs good, save your money and do it once! :thumbsup:

TODA AU
17-08-2005, 09:17 AM
it will have an aftermarket ecu also will be tuned by dyno dave when the time comes.

Best advice,
Let Dave decide when he's tuning it.
He'll gve it enough boost to get the job done & remain safe.
Thats how much it will have...
Seriously, there are too many variables to just say X boost is safe.

EG5
17-08-2005, 09:23 AM
Like badhbt says , do it once and do it right .
It will safe you time , money and all the hassles.

EGB16A
17-08-2005, 11:02 AM
remove engine and replace engine is about $1500+....

HRV-80Y
17-08-2005, 12:18 PM
no air con,its gay and takes up useless room

hmmmz good point...windows down n ur carz fast enuf d wind can b ur aircon :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

curious who your lookn to do ur turbo setup wit ?

poweredbyhonda
17-08-2005, 01:47 PM
[QUOTE=fly_vti]b16a with stock internals at 7psi does 13.6qtr mile b18c and 8 psi should to 13 flat. ]

What you smokin? 8 psi means 13 flat? Care to show me some figures and timeslips? You are talking a stock motor and a mild turbo kit right?:D
You do know that eventually the rings will give way as you are turboing a used stock n/a motor. When my motor was stock I was running 9psi (didn;t last too long), I know a couple of people running 7psi stock and the motor is running fine so try to stick to the trend if you want to play safe. Don't be like me and push it to the limit.

saxman
17-08-2005, 02:15 PM
[QUOTE=fly_vti]b16a with stock internals at 7psi does 13.6qtr mile b18c and 8 psi should to 13 flat. ]

What you smokin? 8 psi means 13 flat? Care to show me some figures and timeslips? You are talking a stock motor and a mild turbo kit right?:D
You do know that eventually the rings will give way as you are turboing a used stock n/a motor. When my motor was stock I was running 9psi (didn;t last too long), I know a couple of people running 7psi stock and the motor is running fine so try to stick to the trend if you want to play safe. Don't be like me and push it to the limit.
a lot of what you're talking about has more to do with the quality of the tune then the amount of psi one is running. You could blow an engine on 3 psi with a bad tune, or run 12 without a problem on a great one. There are FAR too many variables to say if a engine can be ran at a certain psi.

2MPRSS
17-08-2005, 02:28 PM
i know il be saving more money if i do it all at the same time but if i wana do internals on my block i want to sleeve aswell which i dont have enough for and toda au your right dyno dave will set it up for me at right amount of boost and be safe thanks for that,and evberyone else for there replies

fly_vti
17-08-2005, 05:53 PM
[QUOTE=fly_vti]b16a with stock internals at 7psi does 13.6qtr mile b18c and 8 psi should to 13 flat. ]

What you smokin? 8 psi means 13 flat? Care to show me some figures and timeslips? You are talking a stock motor and a mild turbo kit right?:D
You do know that eventually the rings will give way as you are turboing a used stock n/a motor. When my motor was stock I was running 9psi (didn;t last too long), I know a couple of people running 7psi stock and the motor is running fine so try to stick to the trend if you want to play safe. Don't be like me and push it to the limit.

its my mates eg man he got a b16a stock engine with a t28 200sx turbo and other stufff like intercooler, dunno dont know much about turbos anymore. he done 13.6qrtr he has the slips lol

incoming
17-08-2005, 06:36 PM
im regards to the topic

my ex's dc2r turbo ran 4psi daily driven
only boosted it to 9psi MAX...
this car was never intended to go faster
listen to badhbt.. might as well do it right the first time and save $

poweredbyhonda
18-08-2005, 08:17 AM
I wanna see the timeslip!!! Lets see his MPH and 60" time.

2MPRSS
18-08-2005, 11:59 AM
thanks guys,ive decided to leave it at 7 psi and not risk anything *MOD LOCK PLZ*

crx_boy7
29-08-2005, 08:00 PM
get boost controll- run it at 6pounds then when racing flick the swithch and hit 9 or 10 eazy!!!

and besides sleevs u can throw in the internals urself without pulling the motor out

but wat u should get is tyres and susy if all u care about is the creek
iv seen u weelspin wildely when trying to launch

string
29-08-2005, 10:29 PM
remove engine and replace engine is about $1500+....
Remove engine and replace engine with what?

A brand new engine?

Remove Engine From Engine Bay And Put Back In - $Free, or your share of an engine crane with a few mates... Get your hands dirty and do things yourself. It's not hard...

string
29-08-2005, 10:33 PM
Everyone here should stop thinking that boost is a magical number which once you get to a certain level things blow. Start measuring things in POWER, not BOOST.

The day everyone makes the same power on the same boost is the day that you can all measure things by boost.

Some people can make DOUBLE the power of another person with the same boost. You think that the person with more power will be running a motor just as safely?

On a stock B18C block, i'm going to say 175fwkw or so to be on the safe side. But in the end it all depends on the tune, and how much and how badly you press the GO pedal...

Teggy-Vtir
29-08-2005, 10:54 PM
im running roughtly 6.8 - 7psi and im gettin 170.6fwkws

yourfather
30-08-2005, 12:54 AM
Teggy VTi-R can you post what you are running, like turbo, manifold etc?

STOCK
30-08-2005, 11:19 AM
im running roughtly 6.8 - 7psi and im gettin 170.6fwkws

PHAT!!!! :thumbsup: let me guess... T3 turbo, cutom manifold, cutom cooler piping, 550cc injectors, walbro pump, tuned by adrian so must be hondata powered. Post up your dyno to get the boys drooooooling :D

poweredbyhonda
30-08-2005, 12:36 PM
I gotta see this!! Don't beleive this is possible on a stock motor.

STOCK
30-08-2005, 04:40 PM
beleive it!
Its my mates mates mates car and it WILL be running at WSID on wednesday!

ProECU
30-08-2005, 05:36 PM
it's definately possible, especially out of a 1.8l.

In fact, i'd go as far as to say that the power output should be slightly higher, but still no slouch!

Good result.

Teggy-Vtir
30-08-2005, 07:43 PM
if i have a scanner den ill post it

i was pretty surprised about the power output myself.

phantom_civic
30-08-2005, 07:58 PM
have 2 see the car in action,
sounds nice.

:thumbsup:


I will be watching u run 13s 2moro johnny!!

Q_ball
30-08-2005, 08:10 PM
but sad to see...weak you have become, :thumbdwn: you have betrayed hondas n/a technology and gone to the dark side... enemy you now are. :p ;)
shut up mum

superR
30-08-2005, 09:05 PM
not weak , just more money efficiant then N/A!