Honda's with / without swaybars

[wynode]

Ok based on this (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26816) thread and to avoid it coming up again I thought we should make up a listing of which cars come with / without a swaybar

So just quote me and add/edit ONLY if you know 100%

Accord
Euro and Euro luxury Front and Rear

Civic
ED EG GL/Gli Front Only
EG Si/Vti Front & Rear (14mm)

EJ8 (Vti coupe) Front only (22mm)
EK Cxi
EK GLi
EK Vti
EK Vti-r Front & Rear

Integra
DA1 Front only
DA9 Front & Rear
DC4 (Gsi) Front & Rear
DC2 (VtiR) Front & Rear (24mm & 14mm)
DC2R Front & Rear

DC5(Base)
DC5R Front & Rear

Jazz


S2000
AP1 Front (28mm) & Rear

[[[d a n n y]]]

Ok based on this (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26816) thread and to avoid it coming up again I thought we should make up a listing of which cars come with / without a swaybar

So just quote me and add/edit ONLY if you know 100%

Accord
Euro and Euro luxury Front and Rear

Civic
ED EG GL/Gli Front Only
EG Breeze/Gl/Gli Front only
EG Si/Vti Front & Rear (14mm)

EK Cxi
EK GLi
EK Vti
EK Vti-r Front & Rear

Integra
DC4 (Gsi) Front & Rear
DC2 (VtiR) Front & Rear
DC2R Front & Rear

DC5(Base)
DC5R Front & Rear

Jazz


S2000

[CL9EURO]

Ok based on this (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26816) thread and to avoid it coming up again I thought we should make up a listing of which cars come with / without a swaybar

So just quote me and add/edit ONLY if you know 100%

Accord
Euro and Euro luxury Front and Rear

Civic
ED EG GL/Gli Front Only
EG Si/Vti Front & Rear (14mm)

EK Cxi
EK GLi
EK Vti
EK Vti-r Front & Rear

Integra
DC4 (Gsi) Front & Rear
DC2 (VtiR) Front & Rear
DC2R Front & Rear

DC5(Base)
DC5R Front & Rear

Jazz


S2000 Front & Rear

[Kawasaki]

Im fairly sure that some ed's have a rear swaybar. My 88 didnt and i bought a kit from whiteline but they also offer a replacement type for the rear... so 90, 91 ed's have a rear? anyone have some more info?

[vincent]

DC5R rear sway is 19MM

[babyboy]

ek vti coupes didn't come with standard rear sways.. only fronts

[CTR Coupe]

VTI Coupes come with 22mm front swaybar no rear.

[wynode]

Quote me someone..........i'd do it but don't know the model designation for the vti coupe

[CTR Coupe]

its Ej8

[wynode]

Accord
Euro and Euro luxury Front and Rear

Civic
ED EG GL/Gli Front Only
EG Si/Vti Front & Rear (14mm)

EJ8 (Vti coupe) Front only (22mm)

EK Cxi
EK GLi
EK Vti
EK Vti-r Front & Rear

Integra
DC4 (Gsi) Front & Rear
DC2 (VtiR) Front & Rear
DC2R Front & Rear

DC5(Base)
DC5R Front & Rear

Jazz

[ginganggooly]

Ok based on this (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26816) thread and to avoid it coming up again I thought we should make up a listing of which cars come with / without a swaybar

So just quote me and add/edit ONLY if you know 100%

Accord
Euro and Euro luxury Front and Rear

Civic
ED EG GL/Gli Front Only
EG Si/Vti Front & Rear (14mm)

EK Cxi
EK GLi
EK Vti
EK Vti-r Front & Rear

Integra
DC4 (Gsi) Front & Rear
DC2 (VtiR) Front & Rear (24mm & 14mm)
DC2R Front & Rear

DC5(Base)
DC5R Front & Rear

Jazz


S2000

[SKREMN]

Integra
DA9 Front & Rear

[n/a]

where the hell do you guys find this stuff? can you find my car, EF3. :p

[wynode]

Accord
Euro and Euro luxury Front and Rear

Civic
ED EG GL/Gli Front Only
EG Si/Vti Front & Rear (14mm)

EJ8 (Vti coupe) Front only (22mm)
EK Cxi
EK GLi
EK Vti
EK Vti-r Front & Rear

Integra
DA9 Front & Rear
DC4 (Gsi) Front & Rear
DC2 (VtiR) Front & Rear (24mm & 14mm)
DC2R Front & Rear

DC5(Base)
DC5R Front & Rear

Jazz


S2000

[SKREMN]

Integra SX 85-88
Front only



where the hell do you guys find this stuff? can you find my car, EF3. :p

I've got all the generations of integra living at my house, just had a look

[wynode]

whats the model code of the 85-88 integra ?

[nedgeworth]

whats the model code of the 85-88 integra ?

DA1

[z3lda]

eg2 front and rear. hehe

[HRV-80Y]

good idea 2 make a listin hey wyn !

wat sizes are teg oem ones ?

[.::F[L]Y::.]

wynode: S2000 front sway bar is 28mm not sure about rear though i think rear is 22mm but not sure

[VTi_b0i]

can u get better ones for an EH sedan? because my car handles alright but i want better :D any ideas? aslo, will a front strut brace fit both an eg hatch and sedan? cause i have one but not too sure if it will fit... jus wondering whether hatch and sedan will fti eachother...

[nedgeworth]

can u get better ones for an EH sedan? because my car handles alright but i want better :D any ideas? aslo, will a front strut brace fit both an eg hatch and sedan? cause i have one but not too sure if it will fit... jus wondering whether hatch and sedan will fti eachother...

Have a look in the trader forum man. egSi stocks the whiteline range in which you can get yourself larger front and rear sway bars :)

[wynode]

Accord
Euro and Euro luxury Front and Rear

Civic
ED EG GL/Gli Front Only
EG Si/Vti Front & Rear (14mm)

EJ8 (Vti coupe) Front only (22mm)
EK Cxi
EK GLi
EK Vti
EK Vti-r Front & Rear

Integra
DA1 Front only
DA9 Front & Rear
DC4 (Gsi) Front & Rear
DC2 (VtiR) Front & Rear (24mm & 14mm)
DC2R Front & Rear

DC5(Base)
DC5R Front & Rear

Jazz


S2000
AP1 Front (28mm) & Rear

[wynode]

Thanks for the info guys.........keep it comming.

Pascoe.........check my last reply!

PS: FIrst post updated.

[egads]

EK Cxi Front only

[wynode]

Accord
Euro and Euro luxury Front and Rear

Civic
ED EG GL/Gli Front Only
EG Si/Vti Front & Rear (14mm)

EJ8 (Vti coupe) Front only (22mm)
EK Cxi Front only
EK GLi
EK Vti
EK Vti-r Front & Rear

Integra
DA1 Front only
DA9 Front & Rear
DC4 (Gsi) Front & Rear
DC2 (VtiR) Front & Rear (24mm & 14mm)
DC2R Front & Rear

DC5(Base)
DC5R Front & Rear

Jazz


S2000
AP1 Front (28mm) & Rear

[saboteur]

My EK1 GLi sedan only had a front one when it was stock, 22mm I think (but not 100% sure)

[civlowwer]

My EK1 GLi sedan only had a front one when it was stock, 22mm I think (but not 100% sure)

same and its 22mm, upgrading mine to a whiteline swaybar next week.

[newbie]

cxi ek1. no front sway bar.

[barefootbonzai]

cxi ek1. no front sway bar.
afirmative, no front or rear sway on ek1

[newbie]

dodgy cxi model/// confirm no rear one too.. hehe

[Vtiboy]

I think the Honda 7th Gen Vi Hatch got front and rear sway bar too (correct me if i am wrong, could be the suspension parts) But I am sure there is a bar between the suspension.

[SiR JDM]

Not sure if its really applicable as its pretty rare but AUDM EG4 have front only, however JDM EG4 has front and rear (14mm) and EG6 LCA for anyone interested in doing sway bar upgrade would need dif mounts and dif suspension.

[barefootbonzai]

Accord
Euro and Euro luxury Front and Rear

Civic
ED EG GL/Gli Front Only
EG Si/Vti Front & Rear (14mm)

EJ8 (Vti coupe) Front only (22mm)
EK Cxi None
EK GLi Front Only
EK Vti
EK Vti-r Front & Rear
EM1 Front & Rear

Integra
DA1 Front only
DA9 Front & Rear
DC4 (Gsi) Front & Rear
DC2 (VtiR) Front & Rear (24mm & 14mm)
DC2R Front & Rear

DC5(Base)
DC5R Front & Rear

Jazz


S2000
AP1 Front (28mm) & Rear

[spoon fit]

Jazz
GD1 Front only
GD3 Front only (22mm)

[wynode]

Added Jazz


Accord
Euro and Euro luxury Front and Rear

Civic
ED EG GL/Gli Front Only
EG Si/Vti Front & Rear (14mm)

EJ8 (Vti coupe) Front only (22mm)
EK Cxi None
EK GLi Front Only
EK Vti
EK Vti-r Front & Rear
EM1 Front & Rear

Integra
DA1 Front only
DA9 Front & Rear
DC4 (Gsi) Front & Rear
DC2 (VtiR) Front & Rear (24mm & 14mm)
DC2R Front & Rear

DC5(Base)
DC5R Front & Rear

Jazz
GD1 Front only
GD3 Front only (22mm)

S2000
AP1 Front (28mm) & Rear

[aaronng]

Accord
Euro and Euro luxury Front (25.4mm) and Rear (14mm)

Civic
ED EG GL/Gli Front Only
EG Si/Vti Front & Rear (14mm)

EJ8 (Vti coupe) Front only (22mm)
EK Cxi None
EK GLi Front Only
EK Vti
EK Vti-r Front & Rear
EM1 Front & Rear

Integra
DA1 Front only
DA9 Front & Rear
DC4 (Gsi) Front & Rear
DC2 (VtiR) Front & Rear (24mm & 14mm)
DC2R Front & Rear

DC5(Base)
DC5R Front & Rear

[size=3]Jazz
GD1 Front only
GD3 Front only (22mm)

[size=3]S2000
AP1 Front (28mm) & Rear

Added Accord Euro info.

[JasonGilholme]

what about the CRX's??

[joyride]

accord cd5 front (18mm) and rear (12mm)

crv (earlier model) front (21mm) and rear (10mm)

just checked both cars.

edited: measured the OD of each swaybar with a dial caliper.

[Menzy]

ek1 never came with any rear or front .. i dont have one ... so hmm ...

[DomenEK]

ek1 never came with any rear or front .. i dont have one ... so hmm ...

My EK1 GLi sedan came with a stock (22mm) front swaybar....

[chef_32]

Gen 2 crx (ed in my case) 18mm front, 14mm rear

[Menzy]

My EK1 GLi sedan came with a stock (22mm) front swaybar....

maybe they came as factory option or somthing, can some one confirm ...

if it was stock how come me dont have one :(

[newbie]

cxi doesnt have one. gli does.
also could be the fact its a sedan.

[barefootbonzai]

maybe they came as factory option or somthing, can some one confirm ...

if it was stock how come me dont have one :(

Are you looking in the right spot? Maybe your car is a cxi? Maybe hatches don't as mentioned? Maybe 99-00 models left it out.

[Jr]

Gen 8 civic has front are rear. dont know sizes

[DC5TYPER]

Accord
Euro and Euro luxury Front (25.4mm) and Rear (14mm)

Civic
ED EG GL/Gli Front Only
EG Si/Vti Front & Rear (14mm)

EJ8 (Vti coupe) Front only (22mm)
EK Cxi None
EK GLi Front Only
EK Vti
EK Vti-r Front & Rear
EM1 Front & Rear

Integra
DA1 Front only
DA9 Front & Rear
DC4 (Gsi) Front & Rear
DC2 (VtiR) Front & Rear (24mm & 14mm)
DC2R Front & Rear

DC5(Base)
DC5R Front (23mm) & Rear (19mm)

[size=3]Jazz
GD1 Front only
GD3 Front only (22mm)

[size=3]S2000
AP1 Front (28mm) & Rear

[|N|]

Accord
Euro and Euro luxury Front (25.4mm) and Rear (14mm)

Civic
ED EG GL/Gli Front Only
EG Si/Vti Front & Rear (14mm)

EJ8 (Vti coupe) Front only (22mm)
EK Cxi None
EK GLi Front Only
EK Vti
EK Vti-r Front & Rear
EM1 Front & Rear

Integra
DA1 Front only
DA9 Front & Rear
DC4 (Gsi) Front & Rear
DC2 (VtiR) Front & Rear (24mm & 14mm)
DC2R Front & Rear

DC5(Base)
DC5R Front (23mm) & Rear (19mm)

[size=3]Jazz
GD1 Front only
GD3 Front only (22mm)

[size=3]S2000
AP1 Front (28mm) & Rear

good info ... rep points ur way

[|N|]

maybe they came as factory option or somthing, can some one confirm ...

if it was stock how come me dont have one :(

u would have oone.. coz i have one too...
have a better look

[Nodachi]

Accord
Euro and Euro luxury Front (25.4mm) and Rear (14mm)

Civic
ED EG GL/Gli Front Only
EG Si/Vti Front & Rear (14mm)

EJ8 (Vti coupe) Front only (22mm)
EK1 LXI (hatchback) Front only
EK Cxi None
EK GLi Front Only
EK Vti
EK Vti-r Front & Rear
EM1 Front & Rear

Integra
DA1 Front only
DA9 Front & Rear
DC4 (Gsi) Front & Rear
DC2 (VtiR) Front & Rear (24mm & 14mm)
DC2R Front & Rear

DC5(Base)
DC5R Front (23mm) & Rear (19mm)

[size=3]Jazz
GD1 Front only
GD3 Front only (22mm)

[size=3]S2000
AP1 Front (28mm) & Rear


Wojtek from whiteline mentioned that EK civics has front sway bars.

[souperman]

can we put sizes for all?? (not just whether the model has the bar or not)

thankyou

[LiKPiC]

agreed. sizes too =P

so the EK Gli only has a 22mm front sway bar?

[gelo]

ek4
front 26mm
rear 15mm

[BlitZ]

ek4
front 26mm
rear 15mm

think its meant to be 13mm rear

[fat_85_civic]

3rd gen civics (84-87) have them front (16mm ) and rear all except the base model which just has front and 86-89 tegs also have them front (19mm) and rear.

[zco]

ek4
front 26mm
rear 15mm

its 16 gelo !

[zerospel]

So just quote me and add/edit ONLY if you know 100%

Accord
Euro and Euro luxury Front and Rear

Civic
ED EG GL/Gli Front Only
EG Si/Vti Front & Rear (14mm)

EJ8 (Vti coupe) Front only (22mm)
EK Cxi
EK GLi
EK Vti
EK Vti-r Front & Rear


EK Gli hatch has 22mm front only

[DEMON83]

does anyone know 100% size front/rear for EM1/EK4? or a site where i can find it??

[andiiso]

yea im wondering about the front/rear of the ek4 aswell

[T-onedc2]

AccordEuro and Euro luxury Front (25.4mm) and Rear (14mm)

Civic
ED EG GL/Gli Front Only
EG Si/Vti Front & Rear (14mm)

EJ8 (Vti coupe) Front only (22mm)
EK Cxi None
EK GLi Front Only
EK Vti
EK Vti-r Front & Rear
EM1 Front & Rear

Integra
DA1 Front only
DA9 Front & Rear
DC4 (Gsi) Front & Rear
DC2 (VtiR) Front & Rear (24mm & 14mm)
DC2R AUDM & JDM 96 Front & Rear (24mm & 22mm)
DC2R JDM 98+ Front & Rear (25mm & 23mm)

DC5(Base)
DC5R Front & Rear

[size=3]Jazz
GD1 Front only
GD3 Front only (22mm)

[SIZE=3]S2000
AP1 Front (28mm) & Rear

[simonnowis]

AccordEuro and Euro luxury Front (25.4mm) and Rear (14mm)

Civic
ED EG GL/Gli Front Only
EG Si/Vti Front & Rear (14mm)

EJ8 (Vti coupe) Front only (22mm)
EK Cxi None
EK GLi Front Only
EK Vti
EK Vti-r Front & Rear
EM1 Front & Rear

Integra
DA1 Front only
DA9 Front & Rear
DC4 (Gsi) Front & Rear
DC2 (VtiR) Front & Rear (24mm & 14mm)
DC2R AUDM & JDM 96 Front & Rear (24mm & 22mm)
DC2R JDM 98+ Front & Rear (25mm & 23mm)

DC5(Base)
DC5R Front & Rear

[size=3]Jazz
GD1 Front only
GD3 Front only (22mm)

[SIZE=3]S2000
AP1 Front (28mm) & Rear

EK vti-r(ek4) have 26mm front, and 18mm rear

[Riced_Civic]

Civic ES1 (Front 16mm),(Rear 12mm)

[Sexc86]

anyone know what the size of the standard sway bar is on a eg gli sedan?

[dahon]

i checked under my cousins civic ek vti and it looks like he has a front sway?
someone please confirm this?
definately no rear though.

[shebangs]

Anyone know front swaybar for EG Civic GLI?

[ZeForce]

Anyone know front swaybar for EG Civic GLI?

Just measured mine..... 57mm circumference which equates to ~18mm diameter. Does this sound about right?

[Spoon SiRG]

Ok based on this (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26816) thread and to avoid it coming up again I thought we should make up a listing of which cars come with / without a swaybar

So just quote me and add/edit ONLY if you know 100%

AccordEuro and Euro luxury Front and Rear

Civic
ED EG GL/Gli Front only
EG5 Si/Vti Front & Rear (22mm & 14mm)
EG8 GL Front only (18mm)

EJ8 (Vti coupe) Front only (22mm)
EK Cxi
EK1 GLi Front only (22mm)
EK VTi
EK4 VTiR Front & Rear (24mm & 14mm)

Integra
DA1 Front only
DA9 Front & Rear
DC4 (GSi) Front & Rear (22mm & 14mm)
DC2 (VTiR) Front & Rear (24mm & 14mm)
DC2R Front & Rear (24mm & 22mm)

DC5(Base)
DC5R Front & Rear

Jazz


S2000
AP1 Front (28mm) & Rear

EK1 GLi: 22mm Front Only
EG5 VTi: 22mm Front & 14mm Rear
EG8 GL: 18mm Front Only

[55EXX]

EG5 Si is also 22mm + 14mm rear

[Sp00ny]

AccordEuro and Euro luxury Front (25.4mm) and Rear (14mm)

Civic
ED EG GL/Gli Front Only
EG Si/Vti Front & Rear (14mm)

EJ8 (Vti coupe) Front only (22mm)
EK Cxi None
EK GLi Front Only
EK Vti
EK Vti-r Front & Rear
EM1 Front & Rear

Integra
DA1 Front only
DA9 Front & Rear
DC4 (Gsi) Front & Rear
DC2 (VtiR) Front & Rear (24mm & 14mm)
DC2R AUDM & JDM 96 Front & Rear (24mm & 22mm)
DC2R JDM 98+ Front & Rear (25mm & 23mm)

DC5(Base)
DC5R Front & Rear

[size=3]Jazz
GD1 Front only
GD3 Front only (22mm)

[SIZE=3]S2000
AP1 Front (28mm) & Rear

Wasn't aware that the JDM ITR got a mm boost for the front as well as the rear? :S

DC4 AU/USDM (22mm Front / 13mm Rear)

[tseesinngwailo]

Can someone advise what can be swapped to what? I want to know if anything bigger fits a DA9 (OEM) as in will a DC2R swaybar fit? same goes for a Civic EG Gli, can i just get an EG5 one? or are the mounts different?

Rather than another 1000 posts hitting here, compatibility across the models would enhance this thread even more! Thanks for the people contributing!

[Sydsyd]

I don't know with DA Tegs, sorry, but i can help u with the EGs since i have 1 myself:)

lower spec EG (breeze/GL/GLi) can use stock Si/VTi rear swaybar, but u have to get EG Si/VTi rear LCAs (they have rear swaybar mounting holes while the others don't)...

U also have the option to use DC2 or DC2R rear swaybar...DC2 rear swaybar has exactly the same diameter (14mm) as EG Si/VTi, and u have the option to use DC2R rear swaybar too, however, u need to use rear subframe reinforcement kit such as ASR, Whiteline etc to prevent any subframe tears and also to have the same swaybar subframe mounting points as the DC2R rear swaybar...

hope that helps and not confuse u even more:p

[tseesinngwailo]

I don't know with DA Tegs, sorry, but i can help u with the EGs since i have 1 myself:)

lower spec EG (breeze/GL/GLi) can use stock Si/VTi rear swaybar, but u have to get EG Si/VTi rear LCAs (they have rear swaybar mounting holes while the others don't)...

U also have the option to use DC2 or DC2R rear swaybar...DC2 rear swaybar has exactly the same diameter (14mm) as EG Si/VTi, and u have the option to use DC2R rear swaybar too, however, u need to use rear subframe reinforcement kit such as ASR, Whiteline etc to prevent any subframe tears and also to have the same swaybar subframe mounting points as the DC2R rear swaybar...

hope that helps and not confuse u even more:p

Thanks for that, I just wanna put a standard bar on my wife's Civic, and as for my DA, want something better than stock, so maybe will just get a Whiteline one

[BusterSonic12]

what's the size of the oem sway bar for the front and rear of a AUDM DC5 type R?

[chargeR]

Rear stock sway on an 02-04 AUDM DC5R is 19mm. Front I have no idea and it is hollow as well.

[BusterSonic12]

Rear stock sway on an 02-04 AUDM DC5R is 19mm. Front I have no idea and it is hollow as well.

thanks tom

[chargeR]

thanks tom
Anytime ;). Word on the street is that the stock DC5R front sway bar is a hollow 23mm diameter item with 2.8mm wall thickness, which apparently makes it equivalent in stiffness to a solid 20.8mm bar.

[Sp00ny]

Anyone know if the stock 24mm DC2/DC2R Front swaybar is hollow, a guy at whiteline said if its stock and its 24mm then "it's definantly hollow".

If so might be worth considering an upgrade to a solid 27/24.

Cheers.

[gerard]

FD2 front = 24mm hollow
rear = 11mm

[souperman]

Just cleaning things up :angel:
sizes added


Accord
CD5 Front (18mm) & Rear (12mm)
Euro & Euro luxury Front (25.4mm) & Rear (14mm)

Civic
ED EG GL/Gli Front Only
EG Si/Vti Front (22mm) & Rear (14mm)

EJ8 (Vti coupe) Front only (22mm)
EK Cxi None
EK GLi Front Only (22)
EK Vti
EK Vti-r Front (26mm) & Rear (16mm)
EM1 Front (26mm) & Rear (16mm)

ES1 Front (16mm) & Rear (12mm)

FD2 Front (24mm) & Rear (11mm)

Integra
DA1 Front only
DA9 Front & Rear

DC4 (Gsi) Front (22mm) & Rear (13mm)
DC2 (VtiR) Front (24mm) & Rear (14mm)
DC2R AUDM & JDM 96 Front (24mm) & Rear (22mm)
DC2R JDM 98+ Front (25mm) & Rear (23mm)

DC5(Base)
DC5R Front & Rear (19mm)

Jazz
GD1 Front only
GD3 Front only (22mm)

S2000
AP1 Front (28mm) & Rear

[drated]

stoopid question but if it doesnt come with a swaybar eg. EK civic Gli rears can you fit them on with aftermarket ones anyway ?

[dc2dc2dc2]

yes....

[dahon]

EK VTi Front Only (22mm)
well my one does (and if the GLi has one then im sure the VTi would aswell)

[drated]

So will you need anything else along with the swaybar or will it fit straight on the gli ?

[crashprash]

wts the thickness for dc5s front and rear? and the thickness of the wall if its hollow?

[chargeR]

wts the thickness for dc5s front and rear? and the thickness of the wall if its hollow?

DC5S rear is 21mm solid. No idea on front.

EDIT: Front is 26.5mm and hollow. Don't know the wall thickness.

[crashprash]

DC5S rear is 21mm solid. No idea on front.

EDIT: Front is 26.5mm and hollow. Don't know the wall thickness.

so if i was to get 24mm whiteline shelby adj swaybars front and back, they would be better than oem?

[chargeR]

so if i was to get 24mm whiteline shelby adj swaybars front and back, they would be better than oem?

Will they give you higher roll stiffness and hence less body roll, yes. Will this make your car any faster, probably not.

[RtN]

pretty sure em1: front 26mm and rear 13mm.

[crashprash]

Will they give you higher roll stiffness and hence less body roll, yes. Will this make your car any faster, probably not.

LOL! i noe a bar of steel isnt gonna make my car faster. Thanks!

[chargeR]

LOL! i noe a bar of steel isnt gonna make my car faster. Thanks!

I meant that they may not make your car any faster around a circuit :p.

[Sexc86]

Hey guys,

can anyone deffinately confirm

Eg Vti front sway = 22mm
Jdm series 1 front sway dc2r = 24mm

I just measured a front dc2r sway and it looks pretty close to 22mm not 24, or possibly am i measureing in the incorrect spot?

[Feverpitched]

Changed the front sway bar D bushes on my VTi CD5 the other day.

27 mm ID bushes = 27mm roll bar?

[SHU-ES1]

Civic ES (sedan) and EU (hatch) both come with front and rear sway bars. i believe the rear is 14mm, and the front is 20mm. don't quote me on that though.

[Sydneykid]

Jazz Gen 1's have a dedicated front swaybar. At the rear the trailing arms are joined by a beam that, as well providing lateral location, also contibutes to the antiroll. So although it isn't a separate swaybar as such they do have a noticeable amount of rear antiroll.

Cheers
Gary

[hiru]

dc2 rear sway bar stock is 14mm?

so (and i'm sorry if this is the wrong place, didnt want to make a whole thread about it) am i better off getting a 24mm rear sway or a 27mm. is 27mm just overkill?

[wynode]

Need to tell us more. Ie is it a track car or daily driver.

You also need to look at your front sway bar as 'bigger isn't always better'. 27mm bar will also put a lot of stress on your sub frame if you don't reinforce it properly. So there's no quick answer :)

[hiru]

Need to tell us more. Ie is it a track car or daily driver.

You also need to look at your front sway bar as 'bigger isn't always better'. 27mm bar will also put a lot of stress on your sub frame if you don't reinforce it properly. So there's no quick answer :)

cheers for the response

the car is my daily, but i love giving it a squirt on the twisties on the weekend, so essentially a good amount of handling in that respect is what i'm after.

I have a front and rear strut tower bar, and am keeping the front sway bar stock. The rear I am tossing up between 24mm or 27mm (27mm is the same price?!) and just curious as to what would be better, especially given they are the same price and as you said bigger isnt always better!

[chargeR]

dc2 rear sway bar stock is 14mm?

so (and i'm sorry if this is the wrong place, didnt want to make a whole thread about it) am i better off getting a 24mm rear sway or a 27mm. is 27mm just overkill?

I would go for the 24mm bar not the 27mm.

What you need to realise is that swaybars, along with springs, dampers, alignment and a myriad of other factors, are generally used as a handling tuning tool to obtain a faster setup on track. Since you shouldn't be driving even close to track pace on the street then the fastest setup shouldn't be the goal, instead the goal should be to create a car that is both fun to drive and safe.

With this in mind I wouldn't go for the 27mm bar simply because it will significantly increase the rear roll stiffness and make the car more likely to punt you off the road backwards at speed. Which will probably ruin your day. Honestly a JDM DC2R bar would probably do the job.

[hiru]

what you said is spot on about what i want to achieve mate! unfortunately dont have the moolah for a dc2r audm or jdm lol. i'll go for the 24mm then.

i'm not so much going for lap times as i am handling ability. and your comment about getting punted off the road backwards was in fact one of my concerns! i hit an oil patch in the wet around a bend a month or two back and nearly did that! i think my eagle f1's on the front saved me there lol

[wynode]

chargeR makes a good point about the 27mm bar there. So for your application the 24mm is probably the best. Gluck!

Swaybars IMO are the best bang for buck handling mod.

[Sydneykid]

I use a 26 mm with an extra (softer) adjustment hole.

Cheers
Gary

[string]

Apples to oranges though, you've got a DC5 yeah?

[hiru]

cheers.. yeah looks like he has a dc5 and i'm after one for a dc2. got a pretty good offer on a mfactory one, but its 19mm. whats the general opinion? in comparison to a 24mm that is. noticible difference? for a daily with a bit of twisties fun... the price difference is about $50-%60. the 24mm one is whiteline...

[hiru]

okay bumpin this up and looks like its decision time. goin the whiteline for sure, 3pt adjustable. couple of questions:
1. 18mm, 20mm and 22mm are my options. for a daily and a bit of twisties action on the side, what would you recommend;
2. how strong is the dc2 rear subframe and;
3. do i need to get a tie bar to go with this?;

cheers guys. again i was going to make a thread, but i thought this might be better. the price difference between the three sizes is negligible, so that's not an issue.

[RtN]

22mm is the most ideal to reduce your body roll, so I'd go with that. The subframe would more than likely tear down the track if you don't use a sub frame reinforcement kit such as ASR, Beaks or something like that. An ASR will act like a tie bar also so you wouldn't need that.

[hiru]

cool, cheers for the info. forgive the noob quesion, but what is an ASR? or is that a brand like beaks? In which case isnt it just a tie bar?

[RtN]

An ASR is a brace that sits on your subframe holding your sway bar and spreading its load out. You can find the kits at traders on Ozhonda Such as JDMyard or through ebay. The beaks I was talking about wasn't the tie bar it was the subframe reinforcement kit. Though the ASR/Whiteline kits are more preferrable as they are one piece. The beaks I was talking about is this:

http://www.beaksproducts.com/SRK_EG_DC_Sub_Reinforcement.htm

Hope that helped.

Here's what an ASR looks like.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2649/3957309159_2931d76737.jpg

That's also got Beaks Tie bar attached, which is useless in this case because it is already using an ASR. It is just there for appearance.

[hiru]

hmm ok interesting. really appreciate the advice mate. so just to clarify, ASR is in effect a brand right? I had a look on the whiteline site and couldn't find a similar part. any help would be really appreciated - if you could link us to the part on the whiteline site that would be awesome!

[RtN]

yes, asr is just a name. But we just call it that coz so common. umm sorry cant find it myself, most likely discontinued? Or you could give them a call. ASR looks better anyway and more readily available than whiteline kits. There's also CT-Engineering ones but they are hard to source over here.

[hiru]

cool cheers... the reason i asked about the whiteline ones is that i know i can get their parts for cheaper. hopefully i can locate a sub frame reinforcement too!

cheers for the help mate

[tekung89]

i need some answers, gona be installing a 24mm rear whiteline sway soon, but im also thinkin of upgrading the front sway bar in order to reduce more further unhealthy roll.

is there acutally aftermarket front sway bars for dc2's ( a production from whiteline) or am i better off jus upgrading the endlinks and the bushings with the stock front sway bar.

[MWAKU]

no prelude love

[gumus89]

Thats what I was thinking.
MWAKU, we get all the love we need over at PA.

But, when I saw this thread I did think to get the measurements off my old stock sway bar, but I dont have calipers :S

[RtN]

umm lol get a string and wrap it around then get that length measured divide by Pi. Then that will be the diameter. If your really keen that's a way.

[Sydneykid]

umm lol get a string and wrap it around then get that length measured divide by Pi. Then that will be the diameter. If your really keen that's a way.

Or get a few open ended spanners and use them to check the diameter.
Or get a shifter, adjust it to the diameter then measure it with a ruler.

Cheers
Gary

[hiru]

^^shifter idea -> spot on!

[Munted]

Ok based on this (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26816) thread and to avoid it coming up again I thought we should make up a listing of which cars come with / without a swaybar

So just quote me and add/edit ONLY if you know 100%

Accord
Euro and Euro luxury Front and Rear

Civic
ED EG GL/Gli Front Only
EG Si/Vti Front & Rear (14mm)

EJ8 (Vti coupe) Front only (22mm)
EK Cxi
EK GLi
EK Vti
EK Vti-r Front & Rear

CRX
ED9 Si Front & Rear
EF8 SiR Front & Rear

Integra
DA1 Front only
DA9 Front & Rear
DC4 (Gsi) Front & Rear
DC2 (VtiR) Front & Rear (24mm & 14mm)
DC2R Front & Rear

DC5(Base)
DC5R Front & Rear

Jazz


S2000
AP1 Front (28mm) & Rear

Added ED9 and EF8 CRX

[najdi]

quick question as this is kind of the same genre...strut bars...dc5 type r...front rear and middle....where the eff does the rear and middle bolt onto..rear is obviously on the sussy but il have to have a good look 1 day but middle :S?

[Mugen Civic]

Ok based on this (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26816) thread and to avoid it coming up again I thought we should make up a listing of which cars come with / without a swaybar

So just quote me and add/edit ONLY if you know 100%

Accord
Euro and Euro luxury Front and Rear

Civic
ED EG GL/Gli Front Only
EG Si/Vti Front & Rear (14mm)

EJ8 (Vti coupe) Front only (22mm)
EK Cxi None
EK GLi Front only (22mm)
EK Vti
EK Vti-r Front (22mm) & Rear (14mm)

Integra
DA1 Front only
DA9 Front & Rear
DC4 (Gsi) Front & Rear
DC2 (VtiR) Front & Rear (24mm & 14mm)
DC2R Front & Rear

DC5(Base)
DC5R Front & Rear

Jazz


S2000
AP1 Front (28mm) & Rear


Added EK1 GLi front only 22mm
EK1 CXi none
EK4 VTi-R front 22mm rear 14mm

[DEMON83]

does and 1 know stock size front and rear for DC5R?

[hiru]

i'm sorry for the question yet again, but i dont think i got an answer yet to this one!

would a beaks tie bar be as effective as an asr? or effective enough. been busy/out of the country and havent got around to it yet.. lol

[grifty]

Ok based on this (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26816) thread and to avoid it coming up again I thought we should make up a listing of which cars come with / without a swaybar

So just quote me and add/edit ONLY if you know 100%

Accord
Euro and Euro luxury Front and Rear

Civic
ED EG GL/Gli Front Only
EG Si/Vti Front & Rear (14mm)

EJ8 (Vti coupe) Front only (22mm)
EK Cxi
EK GLi
EK Vti
EK Vti-r Front & Rear

Concerto
MA2 Front & Rear

Integra
DA1 Front only
DA9 Front & Rear
DC4 (Gsi) Front & Rear
DC2 (VtiR) Front & Rear (24mm & 14mm)
DC2R Front & Rear

DC5(Base)
DC5R Front & Rear

Jazz


S2000
AP1 Front (28mm) & Rear

i can get the exact thickness in a few days if needed :)