[syd] turbo - 94 accord.

[baeshin]

Hey guys new to this forum, I recently got another f22b chucked into my car ( my old one was gone, timing belt snapp'd while aunty was driving it... so one of the pistons is gone only running 3 cyln.) but now i have another one in.... at that time i wasnt thinking. So stupid of me i could have got a h22a. But yea shit happens. now im stuck with the F-series. Ohh tha guy who did it for me said i had a prelude gearbox, which im guessing its the same as the h22a box.

1. Firstly, turbo'n it is on the top of the list atm. Need to know what needs to be changed/upgraded. Do i need to forge the internals or anything like that. basically all the things that you have to change in order to get it running.... i just want it up n running on low boost. then upgrade it as time goes on.

2. Any suggestions on turbo's or any kits around... was wondering if the STOCK s15 turbo would be fine for the boosting??

3. Do i need to recondition the engine?? atm its running okay. But i do have some problems with the engine atm thats why im asking. At times wen i gun the car, getting to bout 4 rpm - 4 n half.... the v-tec kicks in n it screams... n it pulls like crazy.... but after awhile .... it hits the 4grand mark and it just screams n doesnt go anywhere. Can anyone help me n tell me whats wrong.??

Will greatly appreciate any replies.... :confused:


Baeshin'
cheers.

[joyride]

read the forced induction sub-forum for choice of turbos and what engine mods to do.

[B|ade]

1. Alright dude, you're gonna be fine running about 10 psi on the standard engine (make sure you get it all checked out by a workshop before you do run this much boost tho - ie compression test, etc.). As for equipment, I'd recommend probably a t28 or something like that. The turbo I went for is a gt28/30 and it spools up nicely with minimal lag, etc. and is really nice to drive. Saying that though, I can't stress how important it is to get it all done by a professional who you know will do a good job at the conversion. Just remember man you get what you pay for. As for other parts, check it:
a. Turbo
b. Turbo manifold
c. Piping
d. FMIC (not necessary, but highly recommended)
e. BOV (again not necessary, but recommended and pretty cool)
f. You're also gonna need all the fuel lines, injectors, etc.
g. ECU (in my opinion, most important thing. If you are thinking of upgrading the car later on (ie, rebuilding/strengthening the engine) then go for something standalone (Hondata, Microtech, etc.). Saying that, you can get away with a piggy-back system but the stand alone ECUs are going to serve you alot better and make your car alot more pleasurable to drive especially when you do some serious modding.

2. Stock s15 turbo should be fine mate.

3. Sounds like maybe something to do with your VTEC solenoid or something. Doesn't sound like it's related to the engine itself - again, take it to a Honda mechanic or someone that is experienced with Hondas.

I can't stress enough to do it properly the first time man. Find a reputable workshop, tell em your plans and structure it so you have the platform to upgrade, etc.

Hope it helps.

[smoknhothonda]

Pretty much what Blade stated is what you need (he owns a boosted accord himself) and make sure you do lots of research beforehand.

If you just want a small power upgrade there wont be the need to run 10psi, 6 psi with a garett T25 will be enough along with something like a unichip (this setup will be cheaper initially with smaller turbo something around $3-5k)

If you want a setup that will produce a substantial power upgrade you will need to spend a lot more, with a bigger turbo, aftermarket ECU, larger injectors, clutch, FMIC, custom exhaust, and budget around $7-9k possibly more depending on how crazy you want to go!!)

[baeshin]

Thanks B|ade n smoknhothonda you've been a great help.... what state you from?? as "smoknhothonda" said you own a boosted accord?? how much did you spend on you conversion.... and where did you get most of your job done??.

"Sounds like maybe something to do with your VTEC solenoid or something. Doesn't sound like it's related to the engine itself - again, take it to a Honda mechanic or someone that is experienced with Hondas. "

Could it be my fuel injectors?? cuz one of the injectors was leaking as the seal was stuffed. and i put one of my old injectors back in .... could this be the problem??...cuz since then i've started having that problem. i havnt had time to check if they are different injectors.. as my uncle borrowed my car. so i will check it this week end.


d. FMIC (not necessary, but highly recommended) <- have no idea what that is.

but once again thanks heaps.

Baeshin'
Cheers.

[stephen8512]

d. FMIC (not necessary, but highly recommended) <- have no idea what that is.
FMIC = Front Mount Intercooler

[Felix]

Just wondering. How much did the F22B cost ya?

[baeshin]

Well everything engine + new parts cost me 3gz. lol stupid n crazy. *sighs* but yea its alrite ... ohhh its including new clutch, brakes, engine mount ( old one was gone LoL, they are so weak) injectors, changed all the belts including timing belt. engine was like 2gz. so dear becuz it had really low kms. 64k on it.

Lookin bak at it now... i regret it i guess. but gotta live with it... only 2 months worth of work. :cool:

[smoknhothonda]

The F22B1 is well suited to a turbo upgrade, due to the low compression and iron sleeves in the block compared to a H22A (A few ppl here have sucessfully boosted a stock H22A though!)

Im from Newcastle NSW and Blade is in Sydney...

No use dwelling on the past mate, just upgrade what you have ;)

Blade got all his work done at CRD (croydon racing developements)

Check out his site at www.accordturbo.com (http://www.accordturbo.com/)

[baeshin]

ahh crydon, my friend got his sti done there... 11 sec sti ... they are pretty expensive.. but well worth the money.

Blade, one question was the work they did on you accord good? Yeah i am gonna go ahead n upgrade it. Been lookin at the engine bay and planning on what is to be done.

Im gonna get a barrel water cooler, instead of the normal intercooler. have a basic idea of the layout of the turbo n mouting all the pipping... its gonna be a big job hehe. but i'll keep you guys posted on what im up too... but for now its just the planning progress, the main important part haha.

cheers smoknhothonda, fanx for ya help. Im located in syd as well. western syd. not too far from crydon. gonna go n ask for quotes.

[smoknhothonda]

Whythe barrel cooler for mate??? I cant say from my own personal experiences, but I have heard a normal front mount flows much better.........

Im sure CRD will point you in the right direction anyway!

As far as I know Blade has had no problems with his setup

With any workshop you get what you pay for!! and CRD definately have a good Rep

If you are after a like new T25G turbo, I have one that I wanna sell, so I can upgrade to something bigger :)

[accordBOI]

yeah i also know that FM intercoolers do a much better job then others, cuzins 33, gained 10kw atw from front mount

[B|ade]

Man

Can't recommend em enough. You do pay the price though as you said but in my opinion, it was well worth it and like smoknhothonda said I haven't had any problems with the work they have done.

Guess all the other questions have been answered dude. I can't stress how important it is to plan it well, work out what you went end result from your car and get a workshop to build something that can easily be upgraded without unneccessarily replacing parts you bought earlier.

[baeshin]

yep totally agree with you guys..

Why the barrel? i've looked at the engine bay and think the barrel is much better fitted and etc. Plus its something different i guess... i do have another car im workin on as well... but that doesnt belong in this forum lol.,.. a rotar. Thats my major project, this accrd is just gonna be my everyday car LoL. so yea its alrite

but yeah i'll keep everythign in mind when i plan the whole thing...

smoknhothonda, how much u wanna get rid of the t25g for?? its still early for me to get anything... but if its an alrite price i'll grab it.

[h22a accord]

if u need another f22b1 i have a perfectly fine one i took out of my 94 vti to do h22a swap. its done 195k, blows no smoke and had full service history.

[smoknhothonda]

Well each to their own mate, good luck with the barrell style cooler :thumbsup:

Whats your email adress? I will send you pics of the turbo to prove its basically in brand new condition, with no shaft play, or any defects.

(The turbine is off a barely used HKS turbo kit for a CD5 Accord)

I have the turbo wrapped up in rags in a box, waiting to sell so I can upgrade to something bigger :)

[baeshin]

e-mail: livebymycardiebymycar@hotmail.com hks kit? how much was that kit? i had a look around n saw the turbonetics one... looks alrite,

h22a accord: thanks but i just got my engine in lol, 64k on it... fanx anyways dude.

[smoknhothonda]

A hks kit is around 3.5K AUD (without a FMIC or any extra injectors) and isnt as comprehensive as the Turbonetics kit, but the components are similiar in design.

Ideally a custom kit will be cheaper, but will take much longer to install a custom intercooler kit, fabricate a manifold etc etc a custom kit will take you 2-3 weeks, a hks/turbonetics kit will take you 2-3 days to install.