Online's new ALL MOTOR CRX [Archive]

online

30-08-2005, 10:22 AM

Hi All. Here are some progress pics of our new All Motor drag car which we will taking out to next months Jamboree. i'll keep the pics coming as the car nears completion.:)
http://www.onlineperformance.com.au/content/gallery/500AllMotor001.jpghttp://www.onlineperformance.com.au/content/gallery/500AllMotor002.jpghttp://www.onlineperformance.com.au/content/gallery/500AllMotor005.jpg

quangsta

30-08-2005, 10:28 AM

i see ur going bak to the old school crx :thumbsup: looking sweet

are u going to be using the same engine setup as in your last crx??...

heist

30-08-2005, 10:29 AM

looking good guys!

babyboy

30-08-2005, 10:32 AM

looking good...hopefully is quicker than the 1st one:thumbsup:

Snoop_gee

30-08-2005, 10:38 AM

oh my gosh ur the best :D

mr crex

30-08-2005, 10:49 AM

looks fantastic, glad to see ONLINE is using the gen2 shape! just needs 90-91 rear lights ... oh and I happen to have a spare set in my garage ;) ;) hehehe

some preview specs would be greatly appreciated Jim :)

BiGANG

30-08-2005, 10:53 AM

That looks hot. What motor are you guys planning on running? K Series?

SINISTR

30-08-2005, 10:57 AM

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: :thumbsup: x 10000000000000000.....

You guys ROCK!!!! go the Gen2 CRX!!!!

thanks for keeping the History Alive!!!!

i_own_you

30-08-2005, 11:15 AM

all motor h22a yes?

or was it a leak info.. *grin*

online

30-08-2005, 11:28 AM

Hey guys, thanks for the kind words. It will have the H22A from the tube car but with different set up. it has quad throttle bodies, custom headers, Methanol and a few other goodies inside hehe. Gen2's rock :D so lets hope it runs the numbers at Jambo. I will keep the pics coming, The kit went on this morning :thumbsup:

SINISTR

30-08-2005, 11:33 AM

Will you guys bring it to WA Quit Motorplex for any of the drag events?

EG5

30-08-2005, 12:06 PM

Nice , more competitions on Allmotor fwd class

BiGANG

30-08-2005, 12:30 PM

What sort of power does a full house H22a N/A make roughly? What times are you guys aiming for?

h22a accord

30-08-2005, 01:01 PM

excellent work online!

[[d a n n y]]

30-08-2005, 01:31 PM

woohoo

i saw your new H serise engine too
and C and B getting the head ported
looks the goods

NTR16N

30-08-2005, 02:08 PM

cant wait to see an under the bonnet shot... and try and work out wat it has and doesnt... :thumbsup:

Geo

30-08-2005, 02:18 PM

Very interesting

STOCK

30-08-2005, 02:20 PM

Phat!

MR-VTEC

30-08-2005, 04:13 PM

cant wait to see this thing run:thumbsup:

Kawasaki

30-08-2005, 04:48 PM

nice, that thing will go nuts :D

G AE82

30-08-2005, 05:02 PM

Nice. Can't wait to see it run........... or race it. Thank god for dial your own racing

online

30-08-2005, 05:13 PM

Thanks guys, it will go to Jambo un-tested so we we don't expect to have it dialed in 100%, that will come with time. we are looking to run somewhere in the 11's and then work from there. car has progressed quite a bit since these pics i posted so i'll have to post up some more soon. :thumbsup:

G AE82, will you be racing at jambo, i think there will be a lack of Honda's in All Motor up there this year.

panda[cRx]

30-08-2005, 05:26 PM

GEN2 BAAAYBEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!

that just made my day......no WEEK......MONTH......YEAR!! :D

i'm also hearing rumours of a similar car coming from melb but i can't confirm (and aren't allowed to)
hmmmm time to shut up ;)

Steer^Gimic

30-08-2005, 06:51 PM

oh fu$#king nice one online!

its great to hear your using a gen2

spoon

30-08-2005, 07:19 PM

looking good, make us gen 2 owners proud!!!

fly_vti

30-08-2005, 07:25 PM

cant wait to see an under the bonnet shot... and try and work out wat it has and doesnt... :thumbsup:

what you mean what it doesnt? lol it will have everything man! :D

fly_vti

30-08-2005, 07:26 PM

Online Next Car Please Do A Dc2r!!! Lol It Would Be Good To See A Integra Punch 10's Etc

wynode

30-08-2005, 09:05 PM

Looking good!

/waits for more pics and info

i_own_you

30-08-2005, 10:28 PM

will the drag car have the new online gen2 bodykit :D

panda[cRx]

31-08-2005, 12:48 AM

new kit? :)

SINISTR

31-08-2005, 12:57 AM

Online Next Car Please Do A Dc2r!!! Lol It Would Be Good To See A Integra Punch 10's Etc

:D I recon a GEN1 CRX - I volunteer my CRX :P hahaha.... jokin - i mean im not under the condition i get to drive it too :) haha

Integra

31-08-2005, 02:46 AM

Thats awsome, can't wait to see this thing go :D

online

31-08-2005, 07:14 AM

Yes it has our new kit on it :D, should have more pics to put up today sometime. i'll include all the spec's on it too.. :thumbsup:

SHWCARCIVIC

31-08-2005, 07:55 AM

very nice, look forward to see it at Jamboree

ORACER

31-08-2005, 08:07 AM

shiet!
that thing is nasty....
congrats....

online

31-08-2005, 09:25 AM

EG5

31-08-2005, 09:29 AM

wow! beautiful drag car :)

[ slayer ]

31-08-2005, 09:47 AM

mate! this has just made my week! awesome to finally see some pics after hearing bout this a little while back!

and cant wait to see this new kit ive heard so much about!

long live the gen 2!!! make us all proud

[[d a n n y]]

31-08-2005, 09:50 AM

Here are a few more pics i just took of it. :thumbsup:

http://www.onlineperformance.com.au/content/gallery/500AllMotor007.jpg

http://www.onlineperformance.com.au/content/gallery/500AllMotor008.jpg

http://www.onlineperformance.com.au/content/gallery/500AllMotor009.jpg

very nice car
u got to run more than 11's to make the man happy.
he said he'll be pissed if he doesnt see 10's lol

traNce_gl

31-08-2005, 10:04 AM

Ver Very nice work

Look awsoem when its done..Love the paint job

Civic Type R

31-08-2005, 12:42 PM

Not knowing much about the aerodynamics of Drag cars but how would your flared guards at the rear compare angainst the guards seen on the Honda Insight ?

G AE82

31-08-2005, 03:50 PM

I will be there this year. Last year I was the only fwd or honda in the all motor class (All of the rwd guys were giving me dirty looks :p). I certainly hope there will be more than two of us waving the honda flag in all motor. :honda:

Civic Si

31-08-2005, 04:27 PM

Good luck wit ur next project..

nobbs

31-08-2005, 04:49 PM

thats a hot looking drag car, i cant wait to see it once its out and ready to race!!

GL with ur time goals :):)

ProECU

31-08-2005, 09:41 PM

Can you elaborate on who did the tube chassis work ?

JDM.Power

31-08-2005, 09:54 PM

thats nice! il see you there at the next meet! this time il come an say hi!

SiReal

31-08-2005, 10:00 PM

very nice indeed. but mate lose the bling and i think 15s in black JDM stylez would go quite well. haha..JOKING!

panda[cRx]

01-09-2005, 01:22 AM

any more pics of the new kit (whether here or in a new thread?)

it's been a while since us crx boys had a new kit to play with

oh and when the car is in action at jambo i hope someone can post up a video for all us interstate pplz to see :)

OLM-02R

01-09-2005, 06:24 AM

nice work... :thumbsup: for the online team...

online

01-09-2005, 07:20 AM

Can you elaborate on who did the tube chassis work ?

All the roll cages and full chassis's we do in house, we also do the all the fibreglass and engine building in house also. :thumbsup:

online

01-09-2005, 07:40 AM

']any more pics of the new kit (whether here or in a new thread?)

it's been a while since us crx boys had a new kit to play with

oh and when the car is in action at jambo i hope someone can post up a video for all us interstate pplz to see :)

we have a customer with a street car who has just had the kit and car painted. I'll get some pics of that as well.. :thumbsup:

[ slayer ]

01-09-2005, 08:54 AM

yeh more info on the kit please... cos i cant see any price or pics on your site...

btw, are you guys still going to rebuild the gen 3 drag car or is this to replace that?

Non Vtec

01-09-2005, 07:45 PM

Nice work, I hope the car goes aswell as it looks.
I also hope I beat you into the 10's. But i hope to see you guys there very soon. if you get everything sorted you'll run 10's no worries..

online

03-09-2005, 10:25 PM

Nice work, I hope the car goes aswell as it looks.
I also hope I beat you into the 10's. But i hope to see you guys there very soon. if you get everything sorted you'll run 10's no worries..

Thanks mate, good luck with that 10 sec pass, we have a bit of testing to do before we look at hitting the 10's. car is coming along really well actually, should have it completed by the end of next week. I post some more pics next wekk. :thumbsup:

V-techWhore

03-09-2005, 11:02 PM

Dat CRX is off da hook!

redliner

04-09-2005, 01:58 PM

fark man i cant wait to see it on drag strip

91'lude

04-09-2005, 07:59 PM

That things awesome, with a full built h22a, a hopefull 9 second pass once your you've ironed all the bugs out and tuned her to perfection.

DohcKeVTEC

04-09-2005, 08:04 PM

looks phat dudez go d all motor honda power luv it

CHU85

09-09-2005, 06:51 PM

how's the setup compared to the kelford cams one in NZ?
Give em a race for their money!

spoonfed

09-09-2005, 09:28 PM

good work online can't wait to see what it run comes jambo

2MPRSS

11-09-2005, 09:33 PM

show them what N/A engines are made out of online goodluck dani and jim

ginganggooly

13-09-2005, 08:28 AM

show them what N/A engines are made out of online goodluck dani and jim
Its Jim and Deni by the way dude.

-edit- Don't know how that happened, but it wasn't me posting.

2MPRSS

13-09-2005, 10:28 AM

lol wtf probably a mod or sumthing

DLO01

14-09-2005, 01:56 PM

Is what I hear true about this car?

I have heard something has happened, but don't think it my place to say.

Will let the Online boys say.

Non Vtec

15-09-2005, 08:17 AM

That things awesome, with a full built h22a, a hopefull 9 second pass once your you've ironed all the bugs out and tuned her to perfection.

I dont mean to sound out of place but there isnt a single H22A powered N/A drag FWD running in the 9's. So far all have been either b-series or K-series...

You online boys wanna buy a K-series motor later this season??

ginganggooly

15-09-2005, 09:13 AM

I dont mean to sound out of place but there isnt a single H22A powered N/A drag FWD running in the 9's. So far all have been either b-series or K-series...

You online boys wanna buy a K-series motor later this season??

sometimes you have to think outside the square.

Non Vtec

15-09-2005, 04:12 PM

yeah some times you do have to think outside of the square. I hope they can at least stay in front of the Kelford cams civic's H22A although I think that might change its motivation later on aswell..

jimmeh

16-09-2005, 09:11 PM

hey jim i spoke to you on monday regarding sleeving my block. that car looks nice. you guys ready. i hope everything has gone relatively smoothly. you guys better take some videos of the car at jamboree.

poid

16-09-2005, 09:12 PM

ginganggooly

17-09-2005, 01:33 PM

i'm told the crx just ran a 13.9 after shutting down at half track, 1.66 60".

ginganggooly

17-09-2005, 04:24 PM

60' -1.595
et -11.548
mph -116.31

see, thinking outside the square can work! :)

EG5

17-09-2005, 04:34 PM

very fast , this beast should hit 10s easy

ginganggooly

17-09-2005, 04:37 PM

not bad for a first run ;)

kOncept

17-09-2005, 07:48 PM

excellent run was there today, beautiful looking car too :)

2MPRSS

17-09-2005, 08:33 PM

daymmm so what next?10s?

b16a2

17-09-2005, 08:37 PM

Lookin hawt dude what u guys h0pin to run a the drag strip?

jdmlvn

17-09-2005, 09:15 PM

u dont use the sol shape no more? why? is it too heavy?

OLM-02R

17-09-2005, 09:35 PM

nice time...keep up the good work... :thumbsup:

ginganggooly

18-09-2005, 10:31 AM

they managed to get in a second run, they only did one pass yesterday and snapped the billet drive shafts.
so, for it's second full pass:
60' - 1.549
et - 11.33@116.1mph

this will be a seriously quick little machine when it gets tuned.

Non Vtec

18-09-2005, 11:31 AM

good stuff. I bet the can smell the record. I remember that feeling... only gotta drop 0.03 to bet my N.Z. record..

EG5

18-09-2005, 11:44 AM

mighty impressive from the 1st meet.

Snoop_gee

18-09-2005, 03:48 PM

yo online see if u can log to www.crxaus.com (http://www.crxaus.com/) forum's and post a few comments
http://www.20psi.com/crxaustemp/online/01.jpg
http://www.20psi.com/crxaustemp/online/02.jpg
http://www.20psi.com/crxaustemp/online/03.jpg
http://www.20psi.com/crxaustemp/online/04.jpg
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http://www.20psi.com/crxaustemp/online/06.jpg
http://www.20psi.com/crxaustemp/online/07.jpg
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tofu R

18-09-2005, 05:21 PM

Damn Thats Hooot

OLM-02R

18-09-2005, 06:00 PM

woooot wooooot go online... :thumbsup:

[ slayer ]

18-09-2005, 08:44 PM

omg! i love that buggy! where can i get one LOL

congrats to the guys at online, should be a blindingly quick lil beast when fully tuned and setup

DLO01

19-09-2005, 07:29 AM

Well done Online. :thumbsup:

Tell me. Did you guys have engine problems the week prior to the Jamboree? Its just that I heard you guys had problems.

v8crew

20-09-2005, 10:17 PM

Boys,

Not bad for a little poofter. HAHA

Bring on the 10's.

Mr_Viking

23-09-2005, 08:50 AM

I must say I was very impressed with your run this weekend. Keep it up you are making Honda owners proud. Thanx for the Mainfold

Goodluck.

HRD2BQT

26-09-2005, 12:57 PM

thats awesome..... well done online

online

27-09-2005, 07:41 AM

what a weekend! car performed really well for it first event, we can't complain. can't wait to get back out there to run some better numbers.. Gotta thank DynoDave for a great tune.:thumbsup:

Non Vtec

29-09-2005, 05:39 PM

how much power are you guys making and what slick size have you got?
looking at your trap speed compared to your time you might have to big a slick on the car..

DLO01

29-09-2005, 06:07 PM

I was watching the 11.33 run from the stands and there was a bit of wheel spin at the initial take off.

ALLMTR996

29-09-2005, 08:18 PM

Well done Online. :thumbsup:

Tell me. Did you guys have engine problems the week prior to the Jamboree? Its just that I heard you guys had problems.
There where no engine problems before the Jamboree there was just not enough time to get the cams that the engine was going to use and the crew had just plain run out of time to finish the engine with all the good parts and get it tuned.
ALLMTR996

ALLMTR996

29-09-2005, 08:23 PM

how much power are you guys making and what slick size have you got?
looking at your trap speed compared to your time you might have to big a slick on the car..
The car was on the dyno for less than 30mins just to settle the rings in Dyno Dave did the rest of the tuning at the track so we still have to do cam timing and refine the tuning.Slicks are big black ones and I do not remember what size they are all I know is that the little poofter still turns them off the line.
ALLMTR996

DLO01

29-09-2005, 09:49 PM

There where no engine problems before the Jamboree there was just not enough time to get the cams that the engine was going to use and the crew had just plain run out of time to finish the engine with all the good parts and get it tuned.
ALLMTR996
I actually heard that the engine blew prior to the jamboree and that another engine was used for the jamboree, I heard there was not enough time to get the cams and the other good bits in the new motor and that time was running out. I heard this from a reliable source too. Doesn't matter, the cars done extreemly well. :thumbsup:

ALLMTR996

29-09-2005, 10:12 PM

I actually heard that the engine blew prior to the jamboree and that a another engine was used for the jamboree, I heard there was not enough time to get the cams and the other good bits in the new motor and that time was running out. I heard this from a reliable source too. Doesn't matter, the cars done extreemly well. :thumbsup:
Yeah I know which BLOWARSE source it was and he has already been given a mouthful by Deni.Noone outside of the crew knew what was going on with the build of the car and engine other than this one person.It was a very stressful time as Deni & Jim had built this car in 8 weeks and then hearing that we had done damage even when the motor had only been started for the total of 30 seconds before going to the dyno on the Wed night before Jambo Deni lost his temper and made a phone call.But the cars performance is testament to the complete crew and everyone involved in getting it there.
ALLMTR996

DLO01

29-09-2005, 10:19 PM

But the cars performance is testament to the complete crew and everyone involved in getting it there.
ALLMTR996
I think that sums it ups there. Well done to the Online crew.

BTW who is this?

ALLMTR996

29-09-2005, 10:30 PM

BTW who is this?
This forums worst nightmare.
ALLMTR996

DLO01

29-09-2005, 10:43 PM

This forums worst nightmare.
ALLMTR996
Ok..... so your the boogyman of Ozhonda. :cool:

online

30-09-2005, 08:14 AM

The cam we used was faulty and has since been reviewed and credited by Crower USA. the engine never blew up. I think your source needs to get his facts right first. We then ended up putting a smaller set we had here for the event just to get the car there.. The engine has a heap more development in so we are hoping to get it back to the track soon.. :)

The tyres we are running are 26" and we don't have a power figure as yet.

car is 60 footing well for it's first time out so we were very happy with that, 11.33 in it's first event was not too bad and the car can only get better from here. :thumbsup:

ProECU

30-09-2005, 09:56 AM

The cam we used was faulty and has since been reviewed and credited by Crower USA.

Have you guys had much exposure to crower cams in the past.
How do you guys find the quality of their cam product.

Im aware they have great experience in the V8 pushrod cam design manufacture, however, there seems to be ongoing concern around their overhead cam strength.

Can you comment?

online

30-09-2005, 02:42 PM

Have you guys had much exposure to crower cams in the past.
How do you guys find the quality of their cam product.

Im aware they have great experience in the V8 pushrod cam design manufacture, however, there seems to be ongoing concern around their overhead cam strength.

Can you comment?

We have used Crower cams for about 7-8 years now without having any sort of drama's and have worked exceptionally well.. There was bound to be a bad one in a batch somewhere and unfortunately we got it. Credit to Crower with sticking by their product and accepting responsibility. We still have Crower's in it for the moment.

ProECU

30-09-2005, 02:49 PM

good to hear.

have you considered a set of bumpstix ?

Non Vtec

30-09-2005, 06:57 PM

well good luck with getting the car sorted. I think there is a few of us that will be running 10's very soon.
On the slicks thing, a 26" is pretty big, you'll need well over 300whp to make good use of them, Personally I think you might be worth trying some a little bit smaller they should help your accleration out abit more.

As for the Crower thing, I run there cams aswell, Brian Crower is a good guy to deal with, good service and good products, hopefully they sort it all out for you soon..
On another note Kelford Cams are claiming 320whp out of there H22-23 hybrid motor.. using there own cams and rocker design..

ALLMTR996

30-09-2005, 11:38 PM

Non Vtec

01-10-2005, 02:34 PM

About 3yrs, 1 1/2yrs track time. Remember turbo is different from N/A...

ALLMTR996

01-10-2005, 10:50 PM

About 3yrs, 1 1/2yrs track time. Remember turbo is different from N/A...
I do not understand about the turbo from N/A answer.
ALLMTR996

DynoDave

03-11-2005, 10:51 PM

I do not understand about the turbo from N/A answer.
ALLMTR996
Looks like Non Vtec has gone away to develop some more must be a bit worried that he has been doing the ALLMTR thing for 3 years and the CRX comes out and runs within 100/th of a second or so of his times with 2 passes.Maybe running the Gen3 turbo car was good for our knowledge about putting a FWD car down the dragstrip.
Regards Dyno Dave

EG5

03-11-2005, 10:59 PM

I do not understand about the turbo from N/A answer.
ALLMTR996

i think what Non Vtec ( Garry ) trying to say was building a fast fwd Allmotor drag car its not easy as a turbo honda fwd drag car.

DynoDave

04-11-2005, 12:41 PM

i think what Non Vtec ( Garry ) trying to say was building a fast fwd Allmotor drag car its not easy as a turbo honda fwd drag car.
Put things into perspective say we have a Turbo EG Civic with say 700 flywheel HP and the car weights 1000kg runs a 28"-10" slicks & dogbox.You can make this car run 10,s @ 140+mph with a lot of work and the 60' times around the 1.6 now we get an ALLMTR car with a 26"- 8" slick thats making around the 280 flywheel Hp weights in at around the 700kg's and runs 11.3 @ 112+mph (11.3@112+mph) with a 60' time of around the low 1.5,s whats hard about that, simple maths tell you that you can use all the power the ALLMTR car is making and the 60' times prove the chassis is doing a good job.As Slim said early in this thread (sometimes you need to look outside the square) and it pays not to stick your head in the sand and research what you build and how you build it.There is a reason that the Online ALLMTR car runs 26" slicks and no one will know why all I can tell you is this car will go faster and very soon.Yonas remember when you ran 12.3 how many runs did it take and how many times did you have to change the setup of the car to do it after you changed from the street tire to the slick.
Regards Dyno Dave

online

05-11-2005, 06:42 AM

i think what Non Vtec ( Garry ) trying to say was building a fast fwd Allmotor drag car its not easy as a turbo honda fwd drag car.

It's easy for those who know how to set them up!

ALLMTR996

05-11-2005, 10:41 AM

It's easy for those who know how to set them up!
Do you know someone that can do it. :p
ALLMTR996

ALLMTR

05-11-2005, 06:17 PM

Non Vtec

06-11-2005, 09:09 AM

well as a note on the development of my car...

I run an almost stock motor, but on a stock motor I ran 11.73 @ 116mph within the 1st season, thats running 200whp.. Since then alot of development has gone into the car.... BUT as a 1 man race team, no pit crew, no mechanics crew, no support vehicles, I trailer my car to the track by myself and race all day by myself with-out beaking anything that drops me out of running for the day then I go home.
Sure building a fast all motor car is easy, and if I had the spare $10k I would be going alot faster aswell, But I dont, I didnt start with the knowledge of having a 9.08 sec FWD turbo car either. Lets face it its not like the online team have built this car from scratch, they do have alot of Money piled up in development of FWD drag racing. Its not like they came out of the box and ran a 9 in the turbo crx. So they have learnt alot about drag racing.
Me on the other hand, I built my race as a dual purpose car to start with and decided to continue down the drag road, I have never built a FWD drag car before, I still run the full factory chassis and weigh in at 830kg.. And remember its easier to build a 2nd car than the 1st..
But hey I've still run 11.30 @ 119mph
BUT I still respect the fact ONLINE has run 11.33, I hope them the best for the future. Hopefully we will see both cars in the 10's and hopefully both cars will get to line up against each other soon..

DynoDave

06-11-2005, 02:06 PM

I think that Non Vtec deserves a bit of respect for what he has done. I DON'T think he needs to be flamed and bagged for his achievements because he offered a suggestion on tyre size. I agree with his suggestion so flame away....
You of all people Chuck should know that when you do something out of the normal people are quick to jump in and offer advice that is really not needed but they cant help but say you should do this and you should do that without knowing why the car is setup the way it is.The Online car is powered by a H-Series engine everyone said why would you use one of them well because we can and felt that is was correct for what we wanted.Why did we not tune the engine before we went to Jambo well because time and mishaps did not allow us to tune it but it will be tuned by next time we run with the cams that we wanted to run and then we will see what happen's.
Regards Dyno Dave

ALLMTR

06-11-2005, 03:23 PM

So the thread was only started as an advertisment for online or posted on a discussion forum for people to discuss it. Non didn't come on and say "you guys are stupid for running those huge tyres". He offered advice on tyre size in a constructive manner.

Take it or leave it, the advice is from one of the few members who have a lot of experience in this class. He may not know what is in the future for the car/setup.

If commenting on the car (constructively and politely) is unwanted I shall fall in line with a:

That car is off da hook...

You guys are the shiznit...

DynoDave

06-11-2005, 04:01 PM

I think that Non Vtec deserves a bit of respect for what he has done. I DON'T think he needs to be flamed and bagged for his achievements because he offered a suggestion on tyre size. I agree with his suggestion so flame away....
How can someone make comment and recommendations on tire size when they have no idea on what torque or Hp the car is making and at what rpm it makes peak torque,what gear ratio's the car runs and the weight of the car that all works with tire size correct.Yes Gary as I will now call him has done very well for himself and credit to him for that but you know me better than that and I will speak my mind and do not really care what anyone's says to use because I do it my way as the Online boys do.
Regards Dyno Dave

ALLMTR

06-11-2005, 04:41 PM

Looks like Non Vtec has gone away to develop some more must be a bit worried that he has been doing the ALLMTR thing for 3 years and the CRX comes out and runs within 100/th of a second or so of his times with 2 passes.Maybe running the Gen3 turbo car was good for our knowledge about putting a FWD car down the dragstrip.
Regards Dyno Dave

This post doesn't present as giving Gary credit. Whether you take his advice/recommendations or not, this isn't the correct way to be commenting on a guy that is a pioneer in this neck of the woods.

Your power is known from your MPH, your weight is known (it was weighed at the track), your gear ratios are assumed (unless you have some secrets you'd like to share :p and the torque peak is roughly judgable.

At this stage, Gary has commented that the car is overtyred. I wholeheartedly agree.... What your long term plans are, only you and Online know. These tyres may be PERFECT for the future.

online

06-11-2005, 04:52 PM

This post doesn't present as giving Gary credit. Whether you take his advice/recommendations or not, this isn't the correct way to be commenting on a guy that is a pioneer in this neck of the woods.

Your power is known from your MPH, your weight is known (it was weighed at the track), your gear ratios are assumed (unless you have some secrets you'd like to share :p and the torque peak is roughly judgable.

At this stage, Gary has commented that the car is overtyred. I wholeheartedly agree.... What your long term plans are, only you and Online know. These tyres may be PERFECT for the future.

The more people we have in this country and in NZ running FWD the better i say, everyone has a different opinion about how to make a FWD go fast and better still 60ft well.. With the ratio's we have and the power we want out of it, a 24 or 25" slick would be too small.. we turn the tyres hard already with not much HP and it was it's first ever time down the track. I wasn't having a go at Gary i was just replying to a statement saying that a NA car is harder to setup than a Turbo car. I doubt that very much. I would like to see you try putting 800hp down to the ground.

DynoDave

06-11-2005, 05:28 PM

This post doesn't present as giving Gary credit. Whether you take his advice/recommendations or not, this isn't the correct way to be commenting on a guy that is a pioneer in this neck of the woods.

Your power is known from your MPH, your weight is known (it was weighed at the track), your gear ratios are assumed (unless you have some secrets you'd like to share :p and the torque peak is roughly judgable.

At this stage, Gary has commented that the car is overtyred. I wholeheartedly agree.... What your long term plans are, only you and Online know. These tyres may be PERFECT for the future.
You still dont get it what RPM where we using from launch to gear shifts to the finish line ? you or anyone outside of the 2 owners of the car will never know and what was the cars weight when it was weighted at the track you have an idea because I told you in a ph conversion about the car.And at what RPM is peak torque as even we have no idea as the engine was not dynoed other than light load to bed the rings in.Now for the last time if I made comments that have offened Gary I am sorry end of story.
Regards Dyno Dave

BADHBT

06-11-2005, 10:45 PM

It's easy for those who know how to set them up!

yes and for those who have BIG budget too!

BADHBT

06-11-2005, 10:55 PM

big props to you NonVtec for being a one man show!

online

07-11-2005, 09:11 AM

yes and for those who have BIG budget too!

so you assume because we are a shop we automatically have a huge budget.. Would it ever occur to you that we are just lucky to be able to build the whole car ourselves..

Big thumbs up to Gary for running a drag ALLMOTOR and sticking by it.. it does cost alot.

EG5

07-11-2005, 10:37 AM

BADHBT

07-11-2005, 12:28 PM

so you assume because we are a shop we automatically have a huge budget..

No offense or dis respect but yes i do! some where between a turbo charged drag delsol to an allmotor drag crx...... Need i do the maths?

Would it ever occur to you that we are just lucky to be able to build the whole car ourselves..

Yes i am aware that you guys did not have enough time as you wanted to test and tunned the car,

I understand that building car or a drag car is not as easy as it sounds, there is no such thing as a low budget drag car as most ppl know that the faster you want to go the more it will cost!

online

07-11-2005, 12:39 PM

No offense or dis respect but yes i do! some where between a turbo charged drag delsol to an allmotor drag crx...... Need i do the maths?

ok, wheels, engine, gearbox, clutch, fuel system, steering, seat, harness, rear suspension and computer were all from the Turbo car.. how is your math going now..

BADHBT

07-11-2005, 12:41 PM

you forgot to add teh golf buggy!

online

07-11-2005, 12:46 PM

The golf buggy rocks hehe

BADHBT

07-11-2005, 12:47 PM

just rememberd and the truck too

online

07-11-2005, 12:49 PM

and the trailer! sold that anyway. wait for the new one..

BADHBT

07-11-2005, 12:52 PM

The golf buggy rocks hehe

hahah thats cool tho :thumbsup:

BADHBT

07-11-2005, 12:54 PM

and the trailer! sold that anyway. wait for the new one..

where im selling my stuff to buy wheels and tyres!

EGB16A

07-11-2005, 01:24 PM

where im selling my stuff to buy wheels and tyres!

does that mean your evo's r up for sale soon?? :D

thegreek

07-11-2005, 02:46 PM

DynoDave

08-11-2005, 09:16 AM

It is good to be humble... your fully built monster... was not as fast as the stock K series block and the one man show...

So the tuner feels guilty you didn';t run tens... Change the tires, give it another shot.. Too much ego is a bad thing.
There is really no need to say anymore I will now take all this advice onboard and take my humble self away to do some research.
Regards Dyno Dave

ALLMTR996

08-11-2005, 09:51 AM

It is good to be humble... your fully built monster... was not as fast as the stock K series block and the one man show...

So the tuner feels guilty you didn';t run tens... Change the tires, give it another shot.. Too much ego is a bad thing.
Its funny how you register on here and within a few minutes make a stupid post like this did you have time to read it from the start or have you been lurking around and never bothered to join in.Do you know anything about the Online car or Dyno Dave?.I see where DD said if he had said anything to offend Non Vtec he was sorry.Do you know that the Online car is a FULLY BUILT MONSTER? and the thing about the tires why does it concern so many people as to what is on that car?And well as has been said in this thread the car WAS NOT TUNED ON A DYNO it was just stuck on to bed the rings and then taken off because of a problem with something around the engine so I think a pat on the back for DD because the map was written after 1 half track pass in QLD.And then on the very next run the car ran 11.54@116mph I think not bad for a guess at a tune.There is more but I just cant be stuffed sitting here answering to a knob jockey that makes 1 post and hangs shit on people that I hold in very high regard for there knowledge on Honda's and FWD drag racing.
ALLMTR996

pillow

08-11-2005, 11:35 AM

the car WAS NOT TUNED ON A DYNO it was just stuck on to bed the rings and then taken off because of a problem with something around the engine so I think a pat on the back for DD because the map was written after 1 half track pass in QLD.And then on the very next run the car ran 11.54@116mph I think not bad for a guess at a tune.

Is this true? If so that's an awesome effort! Many :thumbsup:

online

08-11-2005, 01:19 PM

Is this true? If so that's an awesome effort! Many :thumbsup:

Yeah it's true mate, we went out pretty blind but it all worked out well in the end, Dynodave did a great job with logging the first pass and putting in a great tune for the full noise run.. Dave has been dynotuning cars before alot of you were even born, he deserves more respect than that.

pillow

08-11-2005, 01:39 PM

So has the car been fully tuned now? If not 10's should be soon hey?

ProECU

08-11-2005, 02:46 PM

Dave has been dynotuning cars before alot of you were even born, he deserves more respect than that.

I'll try refrain from the usual banter... LOL

Good work all round on all the mentioned drag cars, from the 1man team to the online team.
Anyone who resources such an effort commands respect in my book.

Congrats to both.

DynoDave

08-11-2005, 04:10 PM

So has the car been fully tuned now? If not 10's should be soon hey?
We are all working on customer cars and jobs for now and have not even laid a finger on the dragcar since Jambo.I have some more idea's that we want to try in the cylinder head and cams and then it will get tuned, we just need a sponsor to come on board to buy some more gear for us so we can go faster.Same as Non Vtec we do everything ourselfs only difference between us is there are alot more people involved in the Online car (as in crew)than Non Vtec's weapon being a one man band and its a shame that he is in NZ and not in AUS as he would be great to get to match race him.
Regards Dyno Dave

Non Vtec

08-11-2005, 06:31 PM

I think its a shame I'm over here aswell, Although I will try to come across next year at some stage, depending on how the car is going and the spare $$$ I have..
I have almost got enough spare parts to build another engine set-up but since I want to run low 10's before I come over I will try to build 2 motors very similiar to each other before I come over, same as gbox's and axles etc.. so Its not going to be cheap really..

ALLMTR

09-11-2005, 05:46 PM

It is good to be humble... your fully built monster... was not as fast as the stock K series block and the one man show...

So the tuner feels guilty you didn';t run tens... Change the tires, give it another shot.. Too much ego is a bad thing.

You, my friend, are an idiot with no idea. DD knows more about tuning than you know about masturbation....

ALLMTR

09-11-2005, 05:48 PM

Good work all round on all the mentioned drag cars, from the 1man team to the online team.
Anyone who resources such an effort commands respect in my book.

Congrats to both.

F### YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tofu R

09-11-2005, 08:20 PM

You, my friend, are an idiot with no idea. DD knows more about tuning than you know about masturbation....

hahaha now thats a big call chuck..
could be a close one..

tofu R

09-11-2005, 08:22 PM

We are all working on customer cars and jobs for now and have not even laid a finger on the dragcar since Jambo.I have some more idea's that we want to try in the cylinder head and cams and then it will get tuned, we just need a sponsor to come on board to buy some more gear for us so we can go faster.Same as Non Vtec we do everything ourselfs only difference between us is there are alot more people involved in the Online car (as in crew)than Non Vtec's weapon being a one man band and its a shame that he is in NZ and not in AUS as he would be great to get to match race him.
Regards Dyno Dave

hahahaha im not surprised at all with customers like me on his back all day... no wonder he cant do any more work on the dragcar..

Farkin awesome effort though.. ive worked with dave and the online boys before... and i can confidently say .. they are the best at what they do ..

DynoDave

09-11-2005, 09:13 PM

You, my friend, are an idiot with no idea. DD knows more about tuning than you know about masturbation....
Thank you Chuck :thumbsup:
Regards Dyno Dave

EG5

09-11-2005, 11:50 PM

soon or later i believe online allmotor ef crx will go deep into 10s easily :)

ProECU

10-11-2005, 03:37 PM

ive changed my mind today...

you're all shit

tofu R

10-11-2005, 04:32 PM

ive changed my mind today...

you're all shit

wot the?
PMS evan?

RH9

17-11-2005, 09:53 PM

snowman95

18-11-2005, 11:06 PM

Online, Nonvtec, nice cars lads, keep it going

DynoDave

19-11-2005, 06:46 AM

Very nice car online! :D

Just some quick questions . . . what sort of suspension do you use to increase front wheel traction during launch? Does the CRX use a beam axle at the rear to reduce weight?

Pete
The car use's a custom built shocks and runs a normal rear end not a beam axle the car is still over weight and these issue's will be delt with as the car goes thru different development stages.
Regards Dyno Dave

crxzzR

19-11-2005, 06:46 PM

hmm.. nice read..
impressive times..
great that u guys are doing everything outside of the box..
such as
- FF drag car
- N/A all the way..
- gen 2 CRX...
glad to see a crew like u guys goin out of the ordinary to produce something spectacular and unique..
i might even get some "online" help to do a b18cR[jdm] conversion into my gen 2 as well!
love to see the figures too..