Turbo EM1 Install [Archive]

LVNIT

27-09-2005, 03:51 PM

Hi peeps,

Just thought I would post this up on Ozhonda as I know some people will be interested in following the build up of my EM1 :)

The car was going to be sold off for a wrx but since there was no interest and people persuading me to keep it, im continuing with the turbo conversion.

Im open to any ideas or critisicm aswel :thumbsup:

Setup so far

Blox turbo manifold
T3 Turbo
600x300 Intercooler
440 RC Injectors
Tunertoys oil lines
Ecu conversion harness
GFB blow off valve & autometer boost gauge

Intercooler and exhaust piping are going to be made by myself mainly because I have access to the tools.. work on that will start this week http://www.syndicatemotorsports.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif

Hopefully I should double the power of the civic at the moment, so looking for about 150-160 kw at the wheels and a 13 second pass on street tyres http://www.syndicatemotorsports.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif

A big thankyou goes out to Pete (poid) for all his help, I certainly wouldnt be doing this now if it wasnt for him. Better not forget CL455 either, because the car would have been sold http://www.syndicatemotorsports.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif

UPDATE:

Test fit of the intercooler, measured up the intercooler pipe lenths, bracket lengths to hold the intercooler & checked the front bar fit

http://www2.propichosting.com/Images/450002862/3.jpg

http://www2.propichosting.com/Images/450002862/2.jpg

http://www2.propichosting.com/Images/450002862/4.jpg

Regards,
Ben

barefootbonzai

27-09-2005, 03:55 PM

Brings back some good memories. :) You'll love it much more than a rex.

Weq

27-09-2005, 03:55 PM

if u need any help let me know.

LVNIT

27-09-2005, 03:57 PM

Thanks Barefoot :)

Yeah I reckon there will be some things I might need to talk to you about Weq

Lukezen27

27-09-2005, 04:36 PM

Looking good man :thumbsup:

Keep us updated :)

LukeZen

2MPRSS

27-09-2005, 04:52 PM

i shed a tear everytime i see another turbo honda well done mate you have made the right choice :D

anna1984

27-09-2005, 06:40 PM

looking good with the intercooler..

pics of the engine bay??

LVNIT

27-09-2005, 06:47 PM

Yeah ill get some up soon as I install the rest :)

ProECU

27-09-2005, 06:55 PM

Setup so far

T3 Turbo
600x300 Intercooler
440 RC Injectors
Tunertoys oil lines
Ecu conversion harness
GFB blow off valve & autometer boost gauge

Hopefully I should double the power of the civic at the moment, so looking for about 150-160 kw at the wheels and a 13 second pass on street tyres http://www.syndicatemotorsports.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif

160kW with a T3 is VERY VERY EASILY attainable with that setup. I make that at 4.5psi, similar setup. Assuming of course the T3 is your average run of the mill .48AR airresearch/garett type T3

As an estimate, 200kw should be a realistic goal for 10psi.

Good Luck, keep us posted

rocky_b

27-09-2005, 07:17 PM

omg... i was thinkn about doin this to my coupe... but maybe a bit later.. (hoping end of next year..:rolleyes: LoL)
i will wait in anticipation wen you do yours...:D
show us your progress pics man!!:p
love to see it in action!!:thumbsup:

Chi

27-09-2005, 07:18 PM

OMFG, i thought u were gonan sell it !

lol !

top shit!

PaZzMaN-R

27-09-2005, 07:42 PM

nice work also contemplating it atm, whos doing the work for you?

LVNIT

27-09-2005, 08:44 PM

OMFG, i thought u were gonan sell it !

lol !

top shit!

I was trying to man but offers fell through etc.

Good thing it didnt sell eh :p

PaZzMaN-R: I'm doing everything myself

ProECU: What turbo for 4.5psi? :) Sounds like a nice car to drive!

Teggy-Vtir

27-09-2005, 10:37 PM

you'll achieve that power.
ive achieved it at 6.8 psi.

ian

28-09-2005, 07:35 AM

hahahaha..........it's on it's way i see Ben! Good stuff, can't wait to see the finished product.........i gotta come down and see it for myself one day.

LVNIT

28-09-2005, 09:52 AM

Yeah its taken long enough though Ian!

Ill be coming up to WSID soon after its finished, so we'll have to catch up

LVNIT

28-09-2005, 05:48 PM

Started the intercooler piping today

Using SS and a mandrel bender :)

DOSHBTEK

29-09-2005, 02:29 AM

How much has all the parts cost you so far?? is that a vtir?? last but not least... SWEEEEEETTTTTTT

LVNIT

29-09-2005, 10:16 AM

Yeah its a VTiR and its cost not as much as you think :)

LVNIT

29-09-2005, 12:43 PM

Manifold arrived today thanks to Teggy-vtir :)

http://www2.propichosting.com/Images/450002862/4.jpg

Weq

29-09-2005, 03:59 PM

rev hard manifold? t28?

LVNIT

29-09-2005, 04:38 PM

Blox manifold with T3 :p

Weq

29-09-2005, 06:18 PM

blox is rev hard copy. t3. hmm. off a skyline? werid outlet flange.

LVNIT

29-09-2005, 06:37 PM

Yeah its a stupid outlet flange, I dont think I can turn it anymore either, which means my intercooler piping is going to be a tight fit...

wynode

29-09-2005, 09:36 PM

Nice work!

Keep us posted on how its all going!

LVNIT

11-10-2005, 03:50 PM

Everything has arrived except the Moates chip burner, so hopefully friday everything will be going :)

Teggy-Vtir

11-10-2005, 04:01 PM

GL with everythin =)
hope it all goes well for u.

barefootbonzai

11-10-2005, 04:34 PM

Howz the progress mate.

LVNIT

11-10-2005, 04:54 PM

Everything is ready to go on :)

Im just waiting for the chip burner unfortunatly

Weq

11-10-2005, 05:55 PM

cant Poid lend u his?? u need help installing?? msg me ;)

LVNIT

11-10-2005, 06:31 PM

Its going down to Pornstar for a little while, good timing huh :P

Ill give you a buzz to come overlook everything for me, so late this week if the chip burner arrives on time :)

pornstar

12-10-2005, 12:36 AM

im more important than u :) haha jk benny, gl with it all

LVNIT

12-10-2005, 08:52 AM

LOL thanks Andy ;)

Make sure you do good things with it :p

JoSS_CiViC

12-10-2005, 10:25 AM

thats unreal nice civic !

DOHCTR Coopz!

12-10-2005, 10:35 AM

excellent work moite.. do keep us informed of how everything goes!! best of luck..

rosso

13-10-2005, 07:11 PM

lvnit,

are u converting your civic with stock internals? how much did u end up paying for all your gear? is your car vtir or what?

LVNIT

17-10-2005, 02:08 PM

Rosso,

Im keeping stock internals, most likely ill upgrade everything eventually! The car is a vtir.. :)

fly_vti

17-10-2005, 02:12 PM

i love turbo em1's :D

rosso

17-10-2005, 09:28 PM

cool, i also have an em1. I was thinking of going down the same track as you. Keep us posted with your progress and if you encounter any problems. :thumbsup: :D

LVNIT

17-10-2005, 09:56 PM

Well Injectors and ECU go in tomorrow and everything else goes in wednesday :)

Ill get some pictures up for everyone

lazymofo

17-10-2005, 10:04 PM

lookin fwd to the pix!..turbo em1 is always a :thumbsup: in my books!

pornstar

18-10-2005, 01:13 AM

Benny, i might be going to sydney in the following days, let me know if i can help ya out with the ecu :)

i've saved a few melbourne hondas from being ripped of with the burner pedeh sent me so its been good in my hands ;)

LVNIT

18-10-2005, 09:06 AM

Andy, that would be excellent if you were dropping past, dont come out of your way though! :)

Did you tune any obd2-obd1 cars? How did the idle go?

LVNIT

18-10-2005, 07:14 PM

Ecu is in :D

pornstar

19-10-2005, 01:00 AM

ben, ill call ya when im going to sydney

LVNIT

30-10-2005, 01:43 PM

Just thought I would share a picture of the custom downpipe we made :)

http://www2.propichosting.com/Images/450002862/6.jpg

barefootbonzai

30-10-2005, 02:28 PM

Looking good bro

wynode

30-10-2005, 02:29 PM

What ECU ?

LVNIT

30-10-2005, 05:12 PM

Using Uberdata at the moment :)

wynode

30-10-2005, 05:20 PM

Keep us updated with the tuning part of it :)

mugeneration

30-10-2005, 05:52 PM

Sweet man, that'll be awsome when u got it done. Just wait to see peoples faces when they see how fast it goes :D

LVNIT

30-10-2005, 06:39 PM

Keep us updated with the tuning part of it :)

Part throttle has already been tuned, idles nice at 800rpm, smooth power all the way through and I havnt found any rough patches throughout the rev range yet :)

wynode

30-10-2005, 06:51 PM

Are you runing yourself?

LVNIT

30-10-2005, 07:03 PM

Yeah, with help from Poid :)

ProECU

30-10-2005, 07:33 PM

Pay particular attention to the 4000 & 4500rpm's.

Under Mid-High throttle, Uberdata tends to cause a slight hesitation between the transition of vacuum into boost. I know why it does this, its a code issue, but can't comment or advise further.

Keep an eye on the a/f in this area, you can tune that hesitation out for the most part.

Good Luck with it all.

btw: Your DP looks sexy!

wynode

30-10-2005, 07:56 PM

Dp ??

barefootbonzai

30-10-2005, 08:40 PM

Down Pipe i'm guessing :)

wynode

30-10-2005, 08:49 PM

hah thanks!

LVNIT

30-10-2005, 08:53 PM

I tell you one thing that was interesting..

Using a Crome map the ECU was throwing all sorts of random codes, things to do with automatic transmissions & a solid cell. Uberdata seems to work fine, but I will watch that area that you pointed out :)

Thanks for the comments/help people

pillow

09-11-2005, 07:25 PM

Any progress on this project?

LVNIT

10-11-2005, 08:33 AM

Yeah external wastegate goes on today and its finished :)

bungsai

10-11-2005, 02:02 PM

pics pics pics

superR

10-11-2005, 09:39 PM

power output ,power output ,power output.
what made you want to use uberdata..... cost? or another reason....

yourfather

11-11-2005, 02:54 AM

Just thought I would share a picture of the custom downpipe we made :)

http://www2.propichosting.com/Images/450002862/6.jpg

is it common just to bolt the turbo onto the manifold like that, is that a cast 'log' (sorry about archaic terminology) manifold...

and, is it usual for the down pipe to grow in width as it does.

LVNIT

11-11-2005, 08:28 AM

power output ,power output ,power output.
what made you want to use uberdata..... cost? or another reason....

Money isnt a problem, but I thought I would try it first and see how I go before spending a lot of money. Apart from a few issues to begin with, I havnt had a problem so far :)

Yourfather: Yeah thats how it all bolts up! The exhaust grows in width because I couldnt fit the larger size straight off the turbo.

And yes, that is a blox cast manifold, it is the worst manifold on the ****en planet and I will never use/recommend it again. Mind you I was told from the beginning of some problems, so its my own fault ;)

yourfather

12-11-2005, 05:10 AM

On all the bang for your buck threads though, they say the three most important things are your turbocharger, your manifold and your tune... You might be losing potential because of it... Maybe try and flog it off, and get something that will be better?

If I was in your situation, I would look at getting something more suitable... :) But, look, I really am excited about your project, and I hope you get everything that you want out of it.

:)

LVNIT

12-11-2005, 09:39 AM

Eh you just made an assumption, without knowing why I dont like the manifold :p

Its actually not a bad manifold in terms of wastegate placement, the runners are very clean and thats about it. If I was making 400whp then yes, I would be making a bit more power with a better design. But my goal from the beginning was only 160kw atw and if I make anymore, then even better, so for that, this manifold will do fine :)

The actual problems with this manifold are because of a very poor design..

Just to fit the turbo on, bits of webbing must be cut off the block. If I would have had to cut anymore off then I did, I wouldnt have used the manifold. Its just not something you should do with a 'properly' designed manifold.

When you bolt on your nice new wastegate, what does it hit? It hits the fcuken top of the head! Yeah what a great design :rolleyes:

What else? The turbo's intake sits very close to the block, so you can imagine how hard it is to get some silicon and steel tubing on to it.

I can only imagine what would happen if I had used a bigger turbo, I cant see it fitting with a lot of ease :rolleyes:

saxman

12-11-2005, 10:06 AM

not to mention log manifolds are just really poor designs as far as flow goes. Full race did a test using one of their log manifolds and one of their equal length manifolds... everything else on the car was kept the same(there is a video of the process out there so you can see only the manifold was changed). They went from 250whp to 300whp with just the manifold change, and power was way better across the board. A lot of people will say that the difference doesn't come into play until 400+whp, but that's no true. I'm yet to see one with proper placement of the wastegate either(it usually just t's off one of the runners on log manifolds)... they work, but you'll make a lot more power with a better designed manifold...

not to say log manifolds are bad... they just have their weaknesses... I've used many of them on set ups before without a problem.

ProECU

12-11-2005, 11:11 AM

I'm yet to see one with proper placement of the wastegate either(it usually just t's off one of the runners on log manifolds)... they work, but you'll make a lot more power with a better designed manifold...

Ive been saying this for ages now.
99% of the manifolds out there, including the full-race (who knows why everyone bechmarks against this crowd, they really aren't all that impressive) tend to T off the collector or runners for a wastegate flange.

This is absolutely the wrong way to go about it, the system will always be turbelent before equilibrium.

LVNIT

12-11-2005, 11:31 AM

People are hardly going to understand why wastegate placement is more important then where the turbo is actually placed on the manifold.

ProECU

12-11-2005, 11:51 AM

pillow

12-11-2005, 12:03 PM

Ive been saying this for ages now.
99% of the manifolds out there, including the full-race (who knows why everyone bechmarks against this crowd, they really aren't all that impressive) tend to T off the collector or runners for a wastegate flange.

This is absolutely the wrong way to go about it, the system will always be turbelent before equilibrium.

Have you got any pics of the MP Racing Equal Length Turbo Manifold you use?

LVNIT

12-11-2005, 12:06 PM

well they should, because when they dont make the power they expected, they might actually understand why.

btw: at a guess,... the reason you had to cut webbing appears to be because the turbo needed to bolt up in the other direction.
ie, intake towards pully side of engine (or #1 cyl)

Yeah we did try that, but that gave you about two inches of space between the turbo's exhaust outlet and the radiator :)

So not only can you not fit a decent exhaust, all the heat is going to soak into the radiator

ProECU

12-11-2005, 01:23 PM

pillow:
here are a few...

server isnt the fastest, so be patient

http://b16a.kicks-ass.net/Photography/Turbo%20Project/DSCN0813.JPG
http://b16a.kicks-ass.net/Photography/Turbo%20Project/DSCN0814.JPG
http://b16a.kicks-ass.net/Photography/Turbo%20Project/DSCN0815.JPG
http://b16a.kicks-ass.net/Photography/Turbo%20Project/DSCN0812.JPG

rosso

12-11-2005, 07:45 PM

Is VTIR 2000 Coupe called EM1?
Can you guys explain to me of all the car models and name label please?

civ_sik

12-11-2005, 09:57 PM

yes em1 is a civic vtir 99-00

LVNIT

13-11-2005, 02:40 PM

Just a quick update

Had to buy an external wastegate because we couldnt use the internal on the turbo, that has since been plumbed up and we painted/polished the intercooler piping just to make the engine bay look a bit nicer. Everything is now finished, but have now found another problem..

The turbo needs to be rebuilt, started the car today for the second time since the oil drain was fixed and its smoking when the turbo spools up unfortunatly, there is also oil in the charge pipes. The turbo doesnt have much shaft play at all, 1mm side to side, so I might just change the seals and see how I go.

Other then that, the turbo spools up very early and is quite loud too! It has changed the car completly, money well spent, until I decide to sell it, lol.

Annd thats about it, more fuken set backs ;)

ProECU

13-11-2005, 03:15 PM

you may need to restrict the oil feed into the turbo.

saxman

13-11-2005, 03:34 PM

you may need to restrict the oil feed into the turbo.
definetely... this is something that's been popping up a lot more lately than before it seems. Hondas make too much oil pressure for what the turbo would like to see, so it's blowing oil past the seals.

LVNIT

13-11-2005, 04:26 PM

Yeah its something I will try, meh

saxman

13-11-2005, 06:05 PM

Yeah its something I will try, meh
should be easier/cheaper than rebuilding, and rebuilding and still running really high oil pressure oculd still cause the same problems

LVNIT

13-11-2005, 06:31 PM

How much does the pressure have to be reduced by? 50%? 30%? :)

saxman

13-11-2005, 06:57 PM

most garret turbos seem to like about 35 psi

I personally have one of these on my T3
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Function7-Garrett-T3-T4-4AN-Turbo-Oil-Inlet-Regulator_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQitemZ8 012381438QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

LVNIT

13-11-2005, 07:13 PM

superR

13-11-2005, 09:07 PM

with out seeing it .... i recong your seals on the turbo may be failing...... i would try changing the seals first......its pro a reasonably old turbo being a T3 so it will need it sooner or later anyway.

saxman

14-11-2005, 08:06 AM

So basically all i have to do is get a restrictor that is 1/16" and screw that on my oil line.

Thats quite a big difference as to what would be flowing through it now :)

EDIT: It seems very debatable (At least on Honda-tech) about using an oil restrictor. General opinion seems to be use a restrictor for a BB turbo only..

Remember I am only using a Nissan T3
garret themselves released a statement not too long ago basically saying that their turbos only need 30-35 peak oil pressure. With a honda putting out up to like 75 psi, it's obvious that bringing it down would help. I know several people that were having smoking problems from oil being pressed past the seals until they installed a restrictor and things went away

LVNIT

14-11-2005, 08:16 AM

The Garret turbos have an inbuilt restrictor dont they?

saxman

14-11-2005, 08:17 AM

The Garret turbos have an inbuilt restrictor dont they?
I believe some of the newer BB ones do

LVNIT

14-11-2005, 08:30 AM

Well all im going to do is weld up one of the fittings I have on it, drill a 1/16" hole in it and see how we go.

It seems like a very debatable topic, so im either going to come back on here with either a stuffed turbo because of the seals, a stuffed turbo because of no oil or a turbo that works :)

superR

14-11-2005, 03:05 PM

let us know as to what happens.

LVNIT

14-11-2005, 06:11 PM

Heres some pictures of the 99% completed setup, it was all done, but I had to take it apart to fix some things :)

http://www2.propichosting.com/Images/450006110/1.jpg

http://www2.propichosting.com/Images/450006110/3.jpg

We custom made the 2.5" intercooler piping, 2.5" dump pipe and the 1.25" wastegate piping, we used stainless steel so it doesnt rust over time. The wastegate is a 38mm Tial copy, which I have heard good things about, currently using a 10psi spring.

I think thats about it, the engine bay come up really nice, I wanted it to look as nice as possible and I think i've achieved that goal.

Car will be street tuned a day this week, doing that using a wideband and the data logging setup which I have. Hopefully I should get around 160-170 as the minimum on the dyno ;)

saxman

14-11-2005, 07:08 PM

I hope that isn't the SSAC wastegate that's a copy of the tials....

Tial=good

SSAC=crap... their wastegates have a wonderful history of breaking, diaphrams tearing, overboosting, spring rates being not as advertised, etc

LVNIT

14-11-2005, 07:44 PM

Weq

14-11-2005, 08:13 PM

i haaaate ssac, but whats worse:

Deltagate or a SSAC COpy :)?

saxman

14-11-2005, 08:15 PM

Yeah it is

I bought it from a seller in Australia who gave me a warranty, im willing to give it a try as I have heard good things about it. Worst comes to worst, I take it back and buy a real tial :)
do yourself a favor and never purchase an ssac product again... they're the biggest pile of shit on the market...

I'm wondering if the seller in australia that sold you that wastegate and claimed good things is the same one that sold Q ball two different SSAC manifolds and claimed them as a "custom" job

saxman

14-11-2005, 08:17 PM

i haaaate ssac, but whats worse:

Deltagate or a SSAC COpy :)?
ouch... tough choice

I suppose I'd have to go with the SSAC one because I could strip it all apart and replace every part of it with Tial parts

you might as well just ask me how I'd like to die... there's no way to make it a good choice ;)

LVNIT

14-11-2005, 08:25 PM

do yourself a favor and never purchase an ssac product again... they're the biggest pile of shit on the market...

I'm wondering if the seller in australia that sold you that wastegate and claimed good things is the same one that sold Q ball two different SSAC manifolds and claimed them as a "custom" job

The seller didn't claim anything :)

And can we not turn this into a SSAC debate, ill give you a real result once i know it, none of this "my best mates friend, said this.."

ProECU

14-11-2005, 09:18 PM

Worst comes to worst, I take it back and buy a real tial :)

No worse case is you overboost and blow a motor.

Hope it all works out

LVNIT

14-11-2005, 09:29 PM

Actually, Q Ball, if you happen to read this, could you please enlighten us all about any problems you have had with your wastegate?

I seem to remember being told you havnt had an issue with it :)

Weq

14-11-2005, 09:33 PM

DynoDave

14-11-2005, 10:48 PM

qball hasnt got any ssac parts anymore. i assure u :)
he doesnt run an external gate.

And WORST case scenario on this gate, is that the diaphram fail and he cant boost at all. ive never heard of overboosting..

PS. saxman, my deltagate holds rock solid, 16psi.
Yes your delta holds steady because it is controlled by a Aussie made boost controller that is one of the best products I have used and are very easy to setup and work perfect even on the not so good waste gates.
Regards Dyno Dave

[stealth]

15-11-2005, 10:35 AM

oh dear.. SSAC....

GL!

Weq

15-11-2005, 07:55 PM

Yes your delta holds steady because it is controlled by a Aussie made boost controller that is one of the best products I have used and are very easy to setup and work perfect even on the not so good waste gates.
Regards Dyno Dave

Shhhhhhhhh

superR

22-11-2005, 05:33 PM

hey what happened to our updates?
howd you go ?

LVNIT

24-11-2005, 09:48 AM

Hehe sorry mate, i forgot :p

Car was finished a little while ago, I went to take it out the other night and didnt have any boost. The turbo didnt spool, nothing happened.. Checked the wastegate thinking "why did I buy this" but the pipe coming off it and leading to the exhaust was cold, so that rules that out.

Weq suggested the internal wastegate, sure enough the flap covering it was half way down the exhaust. We thought it had stuck when we welded it, but unfortunatly it didnt and a few heat cycles later it had just broken off.

Everything is fixed now, I get full boost by about 3200rpm, turbo spools up nice and early ;) Im still yet to extract its full potential, ive got some dyno time next week, so ill get on and adjust my timing and a few other things.

Next on the list is a bigger T3, pistons & rods etc.. Going for 300kw at the wheels :D

superR

24-11-2005, 06:21 PM

300??? 350! nah lol 300 is quite a goal. all the best with it. maby we'll meet at the creek when my car is finished?( seems like it will never be finished..).

LVNIT

24-11-2005, 06:30 PM

Dont worry, good things come with patients ;)

Im going to organise something with the turbo boys up in Sydney, so ill let you know what happens :D

superR

24-11-2005, 07:19 PM

fantastic..... dont make it too soon , gimmie like two weeks and ill be done.

LVNIT

25-11-2005, 08:55 AM

Just to clear up some things for people ;)

Car is running Uberdata, with not a single problem at all, it idles perfect, it drives perfect, I have a nice a/f ratio in boost 11.3-11.6.. oh and its street tuned :p Whilst I admit it is a 'safe' tune, with low ignition timing etc.

My Tial copy wastegate which everyone hates, but I doubt most people here have used, sits on 10psi and it does not move. I will give an update on it once it gets some hours run into it and let you all know if anything happens. But all signs at the moment, are excellent.

Im getting full boost around 3200rpm, have not taken it all the way yet, so im not sure if the boost will drop off at all, i suspect that it might. Overall its an animal to drive, anyone who is contemplating boosting their car, do it!

saxman

25-11-2005, 09:30 AM

just fyi, the concern with the ssac wastegates isn't that they don't hold boost, it's that the diaphrams in them are notorious for ripping after some use.

ProECU

25-11-2005, 10:46 AM

I have a nice a/f ratio in boost 11.3-11.6.. oh and its street tuned

Im getting full boost around 3200rpm, have not taken it all the way yet, so im not sure if the boost will drop off at all

Isn't this a contradiction?
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but how could it be street tuned properly without "taking it all the way" ?

LVNIT

25-11-2005, 11:39 AM

just fyi, the concern with the ssac wastegates isn't that they don't hold boost, it's that the diaphrams in them are notorious for ripping after some use.

Just fyi, have a look at what everyone else said in this thread ripping on me for trying something out

Isn't this a contradiction?
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but how could it be street tuned properly without "taking it all the way" ?

I did not tune the boost part of the map, that was done for me.

ProECU

25-11-2005, 12:12 PM

ahh,ok

Tuner should have a datalog of Boost for you.

LVNIT

25-11-2005, 02:19 PM

Yeah, got dyno time next week, so ill get it all then :)

pillow

26-11-2005, 01:42 PM

What dyno you going to? So it's all up and running and on the streets now? I'll have to keep an eye out for you

LVNIT

26-11-2005, 03:06 PM

Dont know mate, mechanic has it all organised, i think its in Queenbo.

Yeah the car is all up and running, you will see it around on thurs/fri/sat nights, had some fun with a rex last night :)

pillow

26-11-2005, 03:14 PM

Hahaha nice one! You should check out www.canberracruises.com (http://www.canberracruises.com) <--- Canberra based cruising forums (duhh :rolleyes: lol) Good bunch of guys and girls there, only just started up. We normally meet every friday night

Weq

26-11-2005, 04:46 PM

cant wait for a ride.. nice work :)

LVNIT

27-11-2005, 09:21 PM

Car has been throwing a code lately.. Its only happened twice while driving normal, while still in vacuum. Turn the car off, start it up, code isnt there anymore.. Check ecu, nothing comes up..:rolleyes:

Weq

27-11-2005, 09:39 PM

have u got the car running in open loop mode? If it is, that would be ur problem. Hondata does it too. nothing 2 worry about, its just the ecu wondering where ur o2 sensor is.

ProECU

27-11-2005, 10:03 PM

You should NOT get this kind of CEL for using open loop.

saxman

28-11-2005, 08:59 AM

You should NOT get this kind of CEL for using open loop.
I have heard of a 02 cel coming on when the stock o2 sensor is hooked up and the ecu is set to closed loop disable, seems to be from the o2 sensor actually being there that causes the problem.

However, it's not an intermitent, turn on and off kind of thing