View Full Version : B18C IN EG VTi HATCH
hey......
jus wonderin if its much hassel to get a B18C in an EG hatch vti?????????
do i needa change heaps of shit within the engine bay???? and wiring????
can any1 give me an estimate of how much it will cost???? not incuding the engine cos that all organised!!!!
Do it urself and it will cost nothing. I cant see you getting any change from anywhere between $1200-$2000+ from a workshop, it all depends on how many 'extras' they charge you for.
As far as the process goes, try a search on google, i'm sure there are more then a few writies.. THe EG vti is equivilent to an EX inthe US.
[[d a n n y]]
04-03-2004, 06:31 PM
mates payed 10g's for a b18c in a eg5 Si but shouldnt be much different
10g's all up done by a work shop
CAT_SPEW
04-03-2004, 07:40 PM
Gawd thats a rip, I don't know why it costs so much, what sort of B18C was that but?
SP0017
04-03-2004, 07:48 PM
thats way too much, some shops here do it for 8k here and still thats pricey
totti
04-03-2004, 08:16 PM
you have to pay for quality, 10g's is expensive, but 7-8 is reasonable
pay the extra up front and you will be smiling ear to ear
Its not always true totti. Sometimes shops can take advantage of lack the lack of knowledge of a customer- the same as in any retail situation. If you arnt goign to do it yourself, still continue to research the conversion process. It will let you call bs when u get charged for something not needed/non-exsistant.
CAT_SPEW
04-03-2004, 08:37 PM
Yeh thats true, shops take advantage of people who look like they know nothing about what they are doing.. But in most cases you get what you pay for, like Weq said research it ALOT before you go handing over any cash.
McChook
04-03-2004, 08:39 PM
Get a well explained quote to, written and signed. Thing is, if you are talking B18C5, they will up the price immensely
ah789454
04-03-2004, 08:51 PM
10k is way to much for just a b18c swap. good performance offered 11k for a full race bred b20 hybrid, thats with everything done to it. and bigger brakes. and engineer certificate
[[d a n n y]]
04-03-2004, 09:10 PM
10g is everything doen drive in drive out
guarenteed.
ah789454
04-03-2004, 10:18 PM
yep drive, drive out in 10 days. guaranteed. charlie (owner of good performance) said if the engine doesnt do wot he told me it can do (performance wise) then i can bring it back. it comes with 10,000kms warranty
civicboy
04-03-2004, 10:40 PM
ah789454, so u gona do ur conversion there? :)
ah789454
04-03-2004, 10:55 PM
civic boy-nope gonna do it myself. labour is a bitch. just go down have a chat with him. ask to see his b20 civic. its off the hook its got s2000 mags on it.
civicboy
04-03-2004, 11:03 PM
oh ok, yeah labour is a biyatccch! hehheehe
yah i saw his ride, it lookz off the hizzle fo shizzle! =D~
[[d a n n y]]
05-03-2004, 08:59 AM
oh ok, yeah labour is a biyatccch! hehheehe
yah i saw his ride, it lookz off the hizzle fo shizzle! =D~
english plz... :shock:
shit about 10k even if i already have the engine?????? jus for labour??? u gotta be joking me........
does the engine go straight onto my origonal mounts or do i needa change that???
and do i need an engineers certificate??????
and can i keep my stock gearbox, clutch etc???......
GP did it for me for $7000 drive in drive away... includes everything u need.. Eng Cert. upgraded brakes (Teg VTiR).. everything you need to have it on the road legal and drivable...!?!?! 10 000km warranty.... i've just clocked my motor over 14000km since its been dropped in & that was Aug03, and haven't had a single prob. with it!!!
It can certainly be done cheaper.. but again that depends if you have the time to spend on it.!?!?
so if i wanna do it with minimal costs, but a good enough job.........how much would u think????
what do i need to replace???
can i drop it straight in?? ie keep same brakes, gearbox, clutch...
[[d a n n y]]
05-03-2004, 12:57 PM
hm..brakes will definately need upgrade..
everything needs to b replaced
gearbox???
so if i take the car and engine to the mechanics and say "can u put this in"
what will he charge me?? rough estimate
[[d a n n y]]
05-03-2004, 01:31 PM
front wheel drive cars come with gearbox attached to the engine dont they ?ur engine has gearbox ? the b18c?
ah yes good point dude.......my mate got it 4 me so yes i would suggest so!!!!
wat else do i need to upgrade????
brakes...........and......
VTEChnique
05-03-2004, 03:57 PM
]]mates payed 10g's for a b18c in a eg5 Si but shouldnt be much different
10g's all up done by a work shop
JEEBUS !!!! I wouldnt expect even type R to cost that much !!!!
A'PEXi
05-03-2004, 04:26 PM
where is GP OB ?
can someone plz tell me whatelse i need with the engine conversion...........
do i need to upgrade my clutch???
do the DC2 VTI-R brakes fit onto my eg hatch??
do i need to change the wiring on the car??
do i need to change the mounts 4 he engine????
ah789454
05-03-2004, 09:12 PM
just look up good performance in the white pages and give them a call. ask to speak to charlie
can someone plz tell me whatelse i need with the engine conversion...........
do i need to upgrade my clutch???
do the DC2 VTI-R brakes fit onto my eg hatch??
do i need to change the wiring on the car??
do i need to change the mounts 4 he engine????
get a frontcut with ECU and loom. U will have to change all the above that u listed. For it to be legal u need the brakes of the vti-r. You willl need to covert ur EG to the new ECU (OBDII) and need the wiring accordingly. As The cut will come witha gearbox \w clutch, your current gearbox will NOT fit upto a b-series engine
MURCHO
06-03-2004, 10:08 AM
how much hassle and money would it be to do this same conversion in a 2000 model vti-r coupe. civic that is. and how much of a performance difference will it make? is it worth it?
[[d a n n y]]
06-03-2004, 11:01 AM
vtir coupe?
beautiful as it is leave it
only the GLi or the VTi
should get it
VTIR dont touch it
McChook
06-03-2004, 11:04 AM
VTiR only needs a B20b slipped underneath it....
where is GP OB ?
Yennora - Sydney
VTEChnique
08-03-2004, 10:57 AM
VTiR only needs a B20b slipped underneath it....
.. you got it in one man !! :twisted:
LatinoHatchCrap
08-03-2004, 11:38 AM
you guys are getting ripped off!!! 10g's OMG what a rape story!!!! on this board theres people who can csource sir-g swaps for 4k+/- and the install would only cost about 1000 or nothing if you buy a helms and do it yourself...
i disagree with you danny. The coupe could do with a bigger block. why not go crvtec as mcChook suggested?
[[d a n n y]]
08-03-2004, 11:44 AM
sorry wasnt 10g's it was 7g's my bad..
Jai-VTi
08-03-2004, 04:13 PM
what sort of a price difference would it b 2 put in a B16A?
incoming
09-03-2004, 12:25 PM
hey jai-vti
do u have any friends that are mechanics?
cos the b16a swap is pretty simple..
i sat back and watched my friend do it in my driveway..
all u really need is a hoist (go hire one) and a aircompressor w/ rattle gun
fingolfin
11-03-2004, 06:13 PM
10k for installation??
that is way too pricey...maybe if its including the engine and all parts then its not too bad...(still pricey though)
there is HEAPS of information on the net
http://hybrid2.honda-perf.org/
http://hybrid2.honda-perf.org/tech/5gtech.html
the GSR is wat the yanks call the VTiR over here.
Its one of the most straight forward swaps of all honda engines, thats why its the most popular in the states...and also becuz the civic is so dammm light!!! :)
The B18C engine bolts straight in becuz it shares the same mounting points u will need is gearbox, breaks and electronics for the enigine. (best to get a front cut) as per what Weq posted.
not 100% sure but u will need an engineers certiface becuz its an increase in engine capacity...but u might get away with it becuz its only 200cc but u will need to check with vicroads or RTA.
good luck with ur Hybrid Honda!! :D
Steve
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