d series rebuild...first car = track?

[MoDCoN]

hey guys, i've read the post bout redbuilding a b18c... how bout a d series? is it worth it or not? ie is it cheaper to swap in a b16, considering insurance adjustment too, esp for a first car, male 19 yo?? cos im after an Si with a lot of k's on the clock, and am a bit worried bout the engine not being so crash hot. i'd be looking at a few mods to start off with (springs/dampers, rear sway, i/h/e, short shifter, clutch, flywheel) gettin a zippy little car that i can possibly take to the track and just skill up with my driving... what are you reccomending? thanks heaps boys an gals!

MoD

[00' coupe]

just do a conversion to a b16... i wouldnt bother rebuilding a d series... if not just hold out for a d series with less K's

[MoDCoN]

yeah, but are later d series (ie 96-00) really the equivalent of the Si block... the dohc non vtec d16a8

[bennjamin]

yeah, but are later d series (ie 96-00) really the equivalent of the Si block... the dohc non vtec d16a8

yes its called the d16a8. This block design dates back to early 1987 and perhaps earlier...came up in our 1991-1993 honda civics , and lastly in Japan in a "special edition" EG5 afaik...

IMO , make sure the Si is runnign fine and replace anything that will give u trouble with ltos of k's ( timign belt , water pump , maybe recondition head ~ get gearbox + clutch looked at etc) and just drive everyday normal...save up a few $$$ for suspension work then take it to the track for abit of fun :) Great little cars ( i have one myself)

[MoDCoN]

ok... how much of that can i do myself... im no spanner monkey, but im dedicated to my hondas and willing to get my hands dirty... someone is selling for 5.5k with 220K. it doesnt have to be lightning fast, altho i dont mind a little bit of poke. does adding thing like cams, camgears. cam shafts lower the life of the engine? are they not reccomended for sometihng that old? thanks guys! i like the d-series!

[MoDCoN]

oh and do you track yours yourslf ben?

[bennjamin]

oh and do you track yours yourslf ben?

no not yet - im too figity and paranoid lol - *too many things to think about lol* BUT yes i will eventualyl track it . Its a great little car , ive just installed a new/old engine + toda lightweight flywheel + new HD clutch etc - should give a fwe years of fun yet. More than anything , its just a great car for the everyday commute , taking backstreets quick and fast all under the speed limit :cool:

[Perry]

u can always turbo the car

[MoDCoN]

i could... but then i could just get a toyota or a nissan... i love the eg, and want to get keep it N/A for now... my dream is to get a b16b (completely redone - lightweight everything) in a civic chassis... mmm

the Si sounds like a good first car, as does the Vti... somethin i can learn to drive really well in..

[Snoop_gee]

yeah i have a D series still for sale having spent $3000 on a complete rebuild stock internals of course. But i think about for that money and say a lil bit extra i could of put a b16a in there. So i am deciding to go ahead with the b18c transplant :D

[MoDCoN]

you sayin you have a modded d series engine for sale? but you dont wnat it, you gonna do b18c in instead?

[MoDCoN]

one more thing ben, what is your fuel consumption like? im not gonna hunt it out of the fuel consumption thred, too blaardy long! :)

[bennjamin]

my car is pretty much stock and $30 of fuel (24 litres or so of premium) gets me about 400k's around town. Not bad :)

[EG5[KRT]]

yeah imgonna track my eg vti .. ill tell u how i go on Queensland raceway... its pretty much stock but yeah getting diff pads..

[CRXONE]

Mate Snoop Gee is selling his D16a8.

He recently got it 100% rebuilt and running perfectly.

The reason he's selling is because his gearbox needed a re-build and he though why not just spend the money no an engine conversion.... B18c :thumbsup:

Cheers,
Mark

[type one]

there is nothing wrong with the d.... i say rebuild... screw swapping in a motor wih 30extra hp...or 50extra hp for that matter... be cheaper to do the d and IMO just as much fun as a b18c.

[mrwillz]

my car is pretty much stock and $30 of fuel (24 litres or so of premium) gets me about 400k's around town. Not bad :)

24L n 400k equates to 6L p/100k pretty damn goood

[MoDCoN]

jeez it is when you put it like that.... sorry i didnt think about it in terms of a full tank... would be good for a long trip then? and thats fairly stock?

[wynode]

24L n 400k equates to 6L p/100k pretty damn goood

Err I highly doubt it. Eg Si you are looking at low-mid 8L/100KMs!

[bennjamin]

Err I highly doubt it. Eg Si you are looking at low-mid 8L/100KMs!

Remember that its "off the top of my head" and really driving to the last drop - still normally I would put in $20 premium and it should get me 300kms easy , 350 on empty. Driving style has alot to do with it im sure...lets not venutre off topic here tho.

Modcon , find a Si or a vti and just do the usual I/H/E mods and get some good rubber + a rear swaybar and take it to the track :)

[MoDCoN]

yes sir! :) i spend all my day dreamin bout gettin a car... its ditractin from my uni studies, my friends, my life... lol. i just need to get the money, get a job and get my lil civic

[EG5[KRT]]

you can do it ! :p

[wynode]

MoDCoN is your question answered? If so we'd like to close this thread so it doesn't go off topic.

[MoDCoN]

yes it is, please close, and than you all for your help
ill let you know as my honda story progresses!

MoD