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Jazzle
15-10-2005, 11:50 PM
yo, im gonna go Hk soon.. and thinkin of getting some struts for my baby,,, but i dont have unlimited budget so not gonna get a bars for all area.. hahahaha....

so which bars do u guys (especially the ppl who have experiences already) think i should ge tfirst... which is more effective and more neccessary?? and wat brand is good in terms of reliability, fittings, and price??

thanx alot guys...

MRFIT
16-10-2005, 01:07 AM
front strut and tie rods..... :)

edw-R
16-10-2005, 01:59 AM
front strut and tie rods..... :)

Yeah!!

STTICH
16-10-2005, 02:31 AM
front strut and tie rods..... :)

and it just happens that u're selling it :p



hehe.. they r good indeed. but out of all bars..i'd say go for the upper front and rear strut, u'll most definately feel the difference and its easy DIY job.

happy shopping :)

krisnatama
16-10-2005, 03:16 AM
In Hong Kong mostly you will find a Japanesse brands, but if you have time to visit Guangzhou, you might find some local products with a very very good aluminum and finishing quality at the price of U$ 28, please do not think negative in this China brands, cause some USA performance shop source from here.

lazymofo
16-10-2005, 03:19 AM
In Hong Kong mostly you will find a Japanesse brands, but if you have time to visit Guangzhou, you might find some local products with a very very good aluminum and finishing quality at the price of U$ 28, please do not think negative in this China brands, cause some USA performance shop source from here.

keep in mind that some china brands ARE out there to cheat u, however there are still some quality ones out there! good luck!

Jazzle
16-10-2005, 09:47 AM
oh can u give me some names of the local brand in guangzhou... coz i think i may go there too ;)

cheers guys....

i think i will definitely get upper front and rear strut first... should i also lower arm bar? which is more effective?? lower arm bar or tie rods?

krisnatama
16-10-2005, 10:20 AM
You can go the area of the old Airport, I forgot the name, let me ask my driver tomorrow, in this area you will find a place as big as 4 football stadium only for car wholesaling products, and thousand you can find for even B18, Supra's. etc

And the items will be from fuel catch tank to turbos

krisnatama
16-10-2005, 10:23 AM
For Hong Kong, you can click on www.supergt.com.hk some products can be seen on line

bagaichiban
16-10-2005, 04:20 PM
Front lower/upper strut bar would be the first thing i recommend. Most of the other bars, i believe, unless u go track, u just add more and more weight to ur car. btw, i didn't say others don't work, just not so worth the buy if u don't go tracking. Don't forget it's a "small", "light" and "front" wheel drive car....settle the front first and then others...

i have heard the Fender kit (from J's racing) would give you MUCH more obvious counter understeering result than front upper + lower strut brace. but the price is about the same when u get upper/lower strut bar together.

rev-tech
16-10-2005, 04:39 PM
rear sway bar would be really helpful :)

Jus-10
16-10-2005, 05:22 PM
I only run the Spoon front upper and lower bars (along with the coilovers) and it is more than adequate for the street...would probably be enough for the track too! There isn't much that can keep up with me through corners now.

Just ask Petrovski...he loves it too!

bagaichiban
16-10-2005, 06:27 PM
I only run the Spoon front upper and lower bars (along with the coilovers) and it is more than adequate for the street...


Same here, but i am interested in how much extra effect a fender kit would give me under the condition that i have spoon's upper/lower strut bar..

Jus-10
16-10-2005, 06:52 PM
Not sure....I think Petrovski runs front upper and lower bars along with rear strut bar and rear chassis bar and the fender braces and he is still amazed at how well mine handles compared to his....

But it could be my wheel/tyre combo or my coilover settings or a mix of everything that I managed to get pretty spot-on.

That said, everyone I know that has installed the fender braces has had good things to say about them.

rev-tech
16-10-2005, 07:17 PM
I only run the Spoon front upper and lower bars (along with the coilovers) and it is more than adequate for the street...would probably be enough for the track too! There isn't much that can keep up with me through corners now.

Just ask Petrovski...he loves it too!
haha, pete was telling me about your setup the other night, i think he was cracking a hard-on the more he told me about it

panda
16-10-2005, 07:29 PM
bought my first chasis bars in hk, i was told from owner of spec r and owner of axis jazz to go bottom chasis bars first, i ended up getting

-SUMMIT Front Four-Points Bars
-GD1 Sport Development Rear Tie Bars

:thumbsup:

Jus-10
16-10-2005, 08:01 PM
haha, pete was telling me about your setup the other night, i think he was cracking a hard-on the more he told me about it

Sounds like it was as good for him as it was for me!

I love corners

:D

bagaichiban
16-10-2005, 10:54 PM
I thought Pete has aftermarket coilover too?


Not sure....I think Petrovski runs front upper and lower bars along with rear strut bar and rear chassis bar and the fender braces and he is still amazed at how well mine handles compared to his....

But it could be my wheel/tyre combo or my coilover settings or a mix of everything that I managed to get pretty spot-on.

That said, everyone I know that has installed the fender braces has had good things to say about them.

Jus-10
17-10-2005, 07:07 AM
He does....Zeal Panthers.

petrovski
17-10-2005, 08:45 AM
The tein superwagons are awesome and are a stiffer suspension compared to the zeal panthersl. I'm not saying the zeals are bad either - they outhandled a skyline - but my point is i think the teins are better than the zeal's.

As for bars the front lower and upper bars are quite adequate for street with a decent set of tyres.

as for more bars - i guess it depends how hard you want to push a car through the corner. Another thing to remeber is you can stick in as many bars as you want but if the suspension isn't setup (In the jazz's case i mean getting the damper rate/ride height and as i found out on the track even tyre pressure plays a massive part in it too) right it won't be handling at its full potential.

In regards to the fender braces, they are REALLY REALLY EXCELLENT at cutting down understeer. When i put mine in i had the rest of suspension in, so the fender braces were the last to go in. On one particular off-camber corner before i put the fender braces in i could go thorugh it at about 60km/h. After putting them in on the same corner i could push a bit over 80km/h when the wheels started to screech.

Pete :)

Jazzle
17-10-2005, 09:47 AM
so i guess i should go for front and rear upper strut,, and front lower arm bar...


hey jus_10 i thought u had the fender braces didn't u?? or it was petrovski that u tried on.. anyway.. thank you everyone for the response...

oh oh... wat brand is good? haha im thinking of j's racing..

bagaichiban
17-10-2005, 10:05 AM
i think only J's racing has the fender kit

petrovski
17-10-2005, 11:28 AM
Only j's racing has the fender kit.

Be prepared to part with about $450 :rolleyes:

Pete :)

Jazzle
17-10-2005, 12:20 PM
nono,,, i know only j's racing produces the fender kit

im asking.. wat brand should i look at if im to get a front and rear upper strut and a lower arm bar..... haha sorry for confusion...

MRFIT
17-10-2005, 01:04 PM
ye, i searched for the fender braces in china guangzhou, but didn't have any luck.... :S

petrovski
17-10-2005, 01:31 PM
front upper and lower bar spoon would be the best imo

reason being is that the spoon front strut bar has no 'pivot points' in it ie bolts on the bar like the j's racing.

as for the rear strut all the designs are the same so you could go for the generic assumption that a brand name is better quality. If thats the case then i'd say j's racing for the rear strut.

but thats my opinion so yeah . . .

Pete :)

Jus-10
17-10-2005, 02:48 PM
I never had the fender braces fitted in my car....I helped Pete to install them on his car and I posted the pics up.