Euro R engine and specs?

[preludacris]

Sup

Just wondering about the performance of the Euro R, and the specs of the engine etc..


Tried searching but yeah hardly found shit about its performance...

anybody know?

thx heaps

[NeoNode]

http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/accordeuro-r/grade-data/index.html

You can make out some of the stats, just.

[mugsee]

Its basically the Integra Type R DC5 k20a engine

[preludacris]

ahh yeah i c, hmm where did i get the idea that it was h22a....

whats the redline ?

[^^v]

ahh yeah i c, hmm where did i get the idea that it was h22a....
the older Euro R had a H22a

[Usual Suspect]

i alwyas thought euro r's with an h22a were an aftermarket transplant??

Try searching in the teg forum, you will have more luck.

[poid]

the older euro-R's had the h22a type-S engine in them (220ps)

[aaronng]

www.rsportscars.com used to have specs and performance details for the EuroR, but they have taken it all down with the latest update.

[razaman]

http://english.auto.vl.ru/catalog/11460/ :thumbsup:

Raz

[lazymofo]

Link (http://www.j-garage.com/honda/accord/spec.htm) This site has both the stats for the 2000 (H22A) model and the newer model (2002, K20A)

[Tobster]

You can use Google to translate the page above for you. The Type R listed by Honda as 163 kW 206 Nm -- and the car weighs 1390 kg, so it's not stripped out in any particular way to save weight over the standard Euro.

[preludacris]

wouldnt the older euro be quicker?
as it has more torque?? i mean, im guessing the vtec and redline of the newer one is better but yeah, would ivtec make that much diff?

[Tobster]

wouldnt the older euro be quicker? as it has more torque?? i mean, im guessing the vtec and redline of the newer one is better but yeah, would ivtec make that much diff?
Quicker is relative -- quicker where or under what conditions? If you play on race tracks and live in the upper power band of the rev range, then a Type R will be faster. For daily driving in stop-start traffic, then the greater torque in the 2.4 makes life easier and might be faster 0-60 km/h.

The bigger 2.4 also uses less fuel on average, but the 2.0 has a higher redline.

They're different natured engines, designed to function under different conditions.

[razaman]

Quicker is relative -- quicker where or under what conditions? If you play on race tracks and live in the upper power band of the rev range, then a Type R will be faster. For daily driving in stop-start traffic, then the greater torque in the 2.4 makes life easier and might be faster 0-60 km/h.

The bigger 2.4 also uses less fuel on average, but the 2.0 has a higher redline.

They're different natured engines, designed to function under different conditions.

I thought we were comparing the old euro-r to the new euro-r?

Raz

[Tobster]

Sorry -- my confusion! Head's not really there today... :)

Still, it depends on where in the power and torque bands things kick in. Weights are similar, but the newer type R has an extra gear to play with...

I would still suggest that the K20A is probably more punchy at high rpm.

[aaronng]

wouldnt the older euro be quicker?
as it has more torque?? i mean, im guessing the vtec and redline of the newer one is better but yeah, would ivtec make that much diff?
The CL1 Euro R's 2.2L engine had 220ps@7200rpm and 221Nm@6700rpm.
The CL7 Euro R's K20a on the other hand also has 220ps@8000rpm and 206Nm@6000rpm.

Both engines have the same power, so once they are in the upper rev range, they would be equally fast if all other factors were the same. So the old Euro R has the advantage at the start from the extra torque. Also, you notice that the powerband (peak torque RPM to peak power RPM) is only 500rpm for the old Euro R and 2000rpm for the new one. So eventhough CL7 loses slightly at the start, it will catch up once both cars have to start shifting into 2nd.

Also, the CL1 was only 1330kg, while the new CL7 is 1390kg.

But the BIG catch that puts CL7 in front of the old CL1 on the RACETRACK is the fact that the CL7 has a 6 speed transmission, letting it use shorter gearing and thus multiplying the torque. The CL7 won't lose because of needing to shift earlier though. It has an extra 1000rpm to to sacrifice to generate the torque.

And one more thing I almost forgot. The h22a was not a Type R engine, so it is not as tuned as the k20a (which is lifted out of the DC5R). So I'd expect the k20a so be even more free-revving than the h22a.

[eurosp]

Nice writeup, very interesting to read.

[razaman]

And one more thing I almost forgot. The h22a was not a Type R engine, so it is not as tuned as the k20a (which is lifted out of the DC5R). So I'd expect the k20a so be even more free-revving than the h22a.

I know what you're getting at but that statement is not 100% accurate.

Their was an accord type-r in the UK with the H22a.

Raz:D

[aaronng]

I know what you're getting at but that statement is not 100% accurate.

Their was an accord type-r in the UK with the H22a.

Raz:D
Hehe, it was just labeled a Type R. Just like our DC5R here was labeled a Type R but had less power and no brembos when compared to a JDM Type R.

In fact, the UK's Accord Type R had the h22a that produced less power and torque than the old Euro R! So I have reason to believe that the internals were not worked as much as the old JDM Euro R.