What ECU is recommended for a turboed HONDA?

[jdmh22a]

Hey all :wave:

People with turboed HONDA or have extensive knowledge about ECUs, may i have recommnedations on which one to use its for a H22A.


Thanks

[lerroy]

Hondata
Motec
AEM
......more

But i would recommend Hondata System any day

[jdmh22a]

Can you tell me why a HONDATA? and not the others?

[ALLMTR996]

Hey all :wave:

People with turboed HONDA or have extensive knowledge about ECUs, may i have recommnedations on which one to use its for a H22A.


Thanks
There are many to suit what you want to do and they all work very well.You would be better off asking the person doing the turbo setup and the tuner that you are going to use.
ALLMTR996

[lerroy]

only becasue i have a mate with a turbo prelude and a hondata is very happy with it

but as ALLMTR996 said speak to your machanic tuner see what they recommend

or PM Dyno Dave ECU-MAN or Adrian at Toda they would all give you there opinion

[HondaLva]

Hondata rocks dude i got it on my N/A Integra.......it utilizes factory sensors.....so cheaper install.....uses factory wiring loom...so no yucky dodgy soldering req......and its awesomely priced>>>>>wanna know more give James from HONDATA a call...0417875785.

[MRJDM]

Can you tell me why a HONDATA? and not the others?

cos it is the best. i have it on my car and i absolutely love it. when it comes to ECUs to me they all do about the same thing roughly. eg imagine your gonna buy a cricket bat. there so many to choose from, they all do the same thing and they cost about the same. so............what separtes the one from the other, service. i know if im having problems with my hondata i can call james(hondata) up at any thing of the night.

you will see later on in this thread ppl will say that the hondata is all just smoke and mirrors. but its proven its self many times over. y do u think all the major honda tuners around the world use hondata. eric from eriks racing had the NA record for a long time and he was running hondata. even if you look at the big honda tuning shops in australia, all use hondata. The best thing about the hondata is that its is made for your honda hence the name.
instead of making a thread about which ecu to get make an opinion orientated thread where by u ask about ppl experiences about the different ecus that they use.
youll find ppl are gonna reply to this thread by saying hondata isnt all that but i bet youll find out that they have an affliation with another ecu company.

[HondaLva]

cos it is the best. i have it on my car and i absolutely love it. when it comes to ECUs to me they all do about the same thing roughly. eg imagine your gonna buy a cricket bat. there so many to choose from, they all do the same thing and they cost about the same. so............what separtes the one from the other, service. i know if im having problems with my hondata i can call james(hondata) up at any thing of the night.

you will see later on in this thread ppl will say that the hondata is all just smoke and mirrors. but its proven its self many times over. y do u think all the major honda tuners around the world use hondata. eric from eriks racing had the NA record for a long time and he was running hondata. even if you look at the big honda tuning shops in australia, all use hondata. The best thing about the hondata is that its is made for your honda hence the name.
instead of making a thread about which ecu to get make an opinion orientated thread where by u ask about ppl experiences about the different ecus that they use.
youll find ppl are gonna reply to this thread by saying hondata isnt all that but i bet youll find out that they have an affliation with another ecu company.

Amen Brother...Amen!!! :thumbsup:

[ALLMTR996]

FINALLY some people giving advice that have first hand experience with a product and or service.Now all we need is for uses of other ECU's to reply to this.
ALLMTR996

[ProECU]

There's only one I use & recommend....

[ProECU]

Hey all :wave:

People with turboed HONDA or have extensive knowledge about ECUs, may i have recommnedations on which one to use its for a H22A.


Thanks

Sorry to dissapoint, but the P13/P14 ECU's arent exactly supported by "that" mainstream popular brand.
You'll need a P30/P28 ir P72 to make things work and that means a replacement ECU.
P30/P28 wont support butterflies. P72 can.

I dont think its gonna be as cheap as you think..

[Weq]

i run hondata. easy to use, no complications like standalones. and dave can tune it ;)

[AndyPandy]

yes! i recomend it to anyone. i love the amount of power hondata did for my civic. brilliant technology!!! i got a ecu thats up for sale. and cheap. so let me know. Mmmpeach@hotmail.com

[HondaLva]

Hondata Rocks! Hondata Rocks! Hondata Rocks!

[GSI-PSI]

hmmm all i used was a link piggyback and i havent had any problems with my turbo teg. Sorry HONDATA fans :p

[honda_b_blastn]

Sorry to dissapoint, but the P13/P14 ECU's arent exactly supported by "that" mainstream popular brand.
You'll need a P30/P28 ir P72 to make things work and that means a replacement ECU.
P30/P28 wont support butterflies. P72 can.

I dont think its gonna be as cheap as you think..


So the h22a ecu is not usable with hondata,which car does the p72 come from?

[Weq]

hmmm all i used was a link piggyback and i havent had any problems with my turbo teg. Sorry HONDATA fans :p


Oh sorry, i wouldnt have any quarms with recommending a GReddy EManage for anyone with stock internals. Was great, cheap and ran as good as hondata! just not flexible for my needs anymore! I loved it though.

[GSI-PSI]

thats exactly right weq, for my stock internals it works fine but it will soon be upgraded as im building my spare engine.

[Chi]

The new s300 seems to have alot of improved support for boosted cars.

[BLKCRX]

Hondata will work on any prelude engine no problems what so ever controlling any and every feature, regardless of which ecu or s100 / s200 or s300 you use. We have specific plug and play solutions for any combination of almost any engine, its up to the dealers to decide what you require its that simple

The s300 is a fantastic new product although personally in 99% of the cases I still recommend the s100 it will do more than anyone really needs. Only serious races require the s200 or s300, although there is no tune ability difference between any of the products which is why from a tuning point of view recommend the s100

If you have any specific questions feel free to contact me, I’m always available.

On and of course to answer the question of the topic I fully recommend Hondata, in fact its my number one choice for any Honda Engine stock or modified. Hondata is so powerful and so reliable. Sure I’m bias towards Hondata but hell at least I believe, love and respect a fantastic product, and I can say the above with my head high in the sky as I’m very proud to be associated with Hondata.

Regards James

[ProECU]

James

to my knowledge, hondata is not compatible with the Prelude variant P13/P14 ECU's.

Can you please explain or advise otherwise ??

[BLKCRX]

James

to my knowledge, hondata is not compatible with the Prelude variant P13/P14 ECU's.

Can you please explain or advise otherwise ??

We have plug and play solutions for all preludes, we do not use the stock ecu.

here's a sample of some of our plug and play solutions

http://www.hondatech.com.au/info/obd2-ecu-info/1.jpg

Any Hondata dealer in australia can direct you with what you require, or you can contact my self.

Regards James

[ProECU]

my a$$hole is already hurting from the cost of a replacement ECU when the factory ECU is PLENTY good enough.

94 Prelude ECU is OBD1 James.

[Savant]

don't have another argument guys...

[online]

I have been using Microtech since the the screw driver adjustable D4s, we have had nothing but good luck with them and i highly recommend them for any car.. It seems to power the fastest FWD, ALLMOTOR and Street FWD in the country quite well. ;)

[wlee2]

theres plenty of good ecus out there.. its all dependant on your tuner..

if you want cheap theres are all the piggybacks..

microtech is a good standalone for its price =P

and autronic is expensive but in my opinion well worth it

and theres motec.. but to warant having install the last one u need some pretty hardcore setup..

Edit:Have you been running any of the B series engines i would have said theres a plugandlplay version of the autronic that plugs straight into the ODB1 loom for tegVtirs.. and harnesses can be bought for the ODB2 looms.

ohh and read the signature =P

[EfiOz]

Autronic plug'n'play for small street stuff. Great system with some very clever software (although it doesn't ook like it from the surface. Hondata is good because it's easy and fairly affordable but I find even that has limits.

Anything more, especially if you're into racing (and want to win) you need one of these http://www.compsystems.com.au/Catalogues/EFIEuro/Euro1-prs1.pdf

And they're not as expensive as you think.

[ProECU]

Anything more, especially if you're into racing (and want to win) you need one of these http://www.compsystems.com.au/Catalogues/EFIEuro/Euro1-prs1.pdf


That looks like a step backwards to me.

Those features are already covered by the likes of ProECU and Hondata.

[EfiOz]

On paper, they sort of are. In reality, no way!

By far the best lambda control on the market as well as the smoothest revlimiter. Also a proper spark controlled flat shift (not just an ignition cut). Much higher spark and fuel map resolution with auto fuel mapping function and closed loop boost control if you're huffin'and puffin'. It will also hanlde the iVTEC system. that was developed for Honda Europe when they were proto'ing the CTR.

Oh, and also a customisable CAN data stream for an external logger/display system. This is basically a baby brother to this bad boy http://www.compsystems.com.au/Catalogues/EFIEuro/Euro12-prs1.pdf as much of the internals are the same as is the software (just with less features). They're really easy and quick to tune compared to anything else around (and I include the aforementioned as well as the likes of Motec, Autronic, Magneti Marelli, Bosch, etc.)

[ALLMTR996]

On paper, they sort of are. In reality, no way!

By far the best lambda control on the market as well as the smoothest revlimiter. Also a proper spark controlled flat shift (not just an ignition cut). Much higher spark and fuel map resolution with auto fuel mapping function and closed loop boost control if you're huffin'and puffin'. It will also hanlde the iVTEC system. that was developed for Honda Europe when they were proto'ing the CTR.

Oh, and also a customisable CAN data stream for an external logger/display system. This is basically a baby brother to this bad boy http://www.compsystems.com.au/Catalogues/EFIEuro/Euro12-prs1.pdf as much of the internals are the same as is the software (just with less features). They're really easy and quick to tune compared to anything else around (and I include the aforementioned as well as the likes of Motec, Autronic, Magneti Marelli, Bosch, etc.)
This is all this forum needs someone else on here blowing the wind up there own arse as to how good there products are. :rolleyes:All your doing is saying how good this shit is but your not giving first hand installs and finished jobs you have done so why dont you post some dyno plots with real figures on them and not just be a sales person.You have to educate these guys with facts not just smoke and mirrors, half of this tech shit means nothing to them.
ALLMTR996

[wlee2]

isent that what a good salesmen does.. even if hes selling a potatoe he can sell it of like gold bricks..

i was JK btw.. i dont meen any of the products here are potatoes disguised a a gold bar.

but dang better than autronicand motec .. i goto see this =P..

but on topic autronic and motec isent for everyone .. it is expensive..
theres a ecu out there for everyone u just goto make sure you find the right tuner.

[EfiOz]

Unfortunately, the only street cars we've lately have been French. :eek: The rest have been race stuff that I don't have any relevant back to back data for.

This one is a good start though
http://www.compsystems.com.au/images/Customers/RHAS-SP V2.jpg
Bog stock 1.8l 16valve Peugeot 306. Only mod is a rear muffler. From the factory these things have 110hp at the flywheel. With a Euro1 we got 104 at the wheels. Not sure what the driveline is but after having done a couple of 206 GTi's I'd guess it to be about 30hp.

As for our work, here's a rough shot of a 206GTi engine bay. Quad throttles, cams, headers, exhaust and Euro1 ECU. It made 172hp at the front wheels. Not bad for a French Fried Frog that struggles to make 135hp at the flywheel normally. It's also still stock internally.
http://www.compsystems.com.au/images/Customers/01-07-05_1237.jpg

I should have a DC5 Integra to play with next month so we'll see how we go then.

For more satisfied customers
http://www.compsystems.com.au/images/Customers/d52b3137.jpg
http://www.compsystems.com.au/images/Customers/2004_Bahrain_Ferrari_Coopers_Saleen_DDO.jpg (The big red one in the lead)
http://www.compsystems.com.au/images/Customers/23554204.jpg
http://www.compsystems.com.au/images/Customers/0317.JPG
http://www.compsystems.com.au/images/Customers/sml%20IMG_0080.jpg

This is where most of our business is, not so much street stuff.

[ALLMTR996]

Unfortunately, the only street cars we've lately have been French. :eek: The rest have been race stuff that I don't have any relevant back to back data for.

This one is a good start though
http://www.compsystems.com.au/images/Customers/RHAS-SP V2.jpg
Bog stock 1.8l 16valve Peugeot 306. Only mod is a rear muffler. From the factory these things have 110hp at the flywheel. With a Euro1 we got 104 at the wheels. Not sure what the driveline is but after having done a couple of 206 GTi's I'd guess it to be about 30hp.

As for our work, here's a rough shot of a 206GTi engine bay. Quad throttles, cams, headers, exhaust and Euro1 ECU. It made 172hp at the front wheels. Not bad for a French Fried Frog that struggles to make 135hp at the flywheel normally. It's also still stock internally.
http://www.compsystems.com.au/images/Customers/01-07-05_1237.jpg

I should have a DC5 Integra to play with next month so we'll see how we go then.

For more satisfied customers
http://www.compsystems.com.au/images/Customers/d52b3137.jpg
http://www.compsystems.com.au/images/Customers/2004_Bahrain_Ferrari_Coopers_Saleen_DDO.jpg (The big red one in the lead)
http://www.compsystems.com.au/images/Customers/23554204.jpg
http://www.compsystems.com.au/images/Customers/0317.JPG
http://www.compsystems.com.au/images/Customers/sml%20IMG_0080.jpg

This is where most of our business is, not so much street stuff.
Ok still all smoke and mirrors because you still cant back up how good they are on a Honda and just to remind you this is a HONDA FORUM.The photos you show are from overseas but the first one does look like a F3 car I went and looked at last Friday and it was Fiat powered and I do not know what ECU it was running.Now the great dyno debate, Dynapack dyno's claim power at the wheels but there is no wheels?????? and on there dyno printout it says FLYWHEEL TORQUE and FLYWHEEL POWER and yes I and many others have had this argument about which dyno is correct and which is not.The plain truth about it is there is 17.5% difference between a Dynapack and a Dyno Dynamics dyno and only 5% difference between a SF901 superflow engine dyno and a Dynapack. :rolleyes:
ALLMTR996

[Weq]

lol this is turning funny..

lol. a serious 'racer' looking for advice on Ozhonda?? But its free access, and no chequebook required to signup???

[ProECU]

The plain truth about it is there is 17.5% difference between a Dynapack and a Dyno Dynamics dyno and only 5% difference between a SF901 superflow engine dyno and a Dynapack. :rolleyes:
ALLMTR996


interesting statistics dont you all think?

[Q_ball]

I have been using Microtech since the the screw driver adjustable D4s, we have had nothing but good luck with them and i highly recommend them for any car.. It seems to power the fastest FWD, ALLMOTOR and Street FWD in the country quite well. ;)
i use lt8

[ALLMTR996]

i use lt8
And you are having no issue's are you they work very well on Honda's both Turbo and N/A.What size injectors are you using.
ALLMTR996

[Q_ball]

And you are having no issue's are you they work very well on Honda's both Turbo and N/A.What size injectors are you using.
ALLMTR996
4x 660cc

[ALLMTR996]

4x 660cc
What is your car like on fuel driving around town.

[syk]

for whoever originally posted the question, have a chat to who you intend to tune it once done, and see what he prefers to tune and what he recommends as an ecu for your car, because if the bloke you want to tune it doesnt know the ecu your using, then it defeats the purpose really.
in my opinion, hondata would probably be my first pick... and i also know people using microtech's and apexi power fc's who are happy with them.

[EGB16A]

What is your car like on fuel driving around town.

also like to know

[aDe]

Motec

[wynode]

How's about people tell us WHY they recommend a particular ECU?

[Q_ball]

What is your car like on fuel driving around town.
roughly 300-350kms per tank - i find that i get more kms outta Optimax
but the 2 that i always stick to is ultimate and optimax