[Euro] How much was your 20,000 km service?

[VirIIx]

Finally I have the time to take my car in for it's 20,000km service. While it's there they gave me a dumb founded look when i told them to look at my 'creaky and loud' clutch - with questions following such as.. where is the noise coming from.. .... ....

which part of 'creaky' and 'loud' 'clutch' did you not understand?

i responded with, the clutch? and look at the master cylinder clutch (which i think went over their head) because i'm still annoyed about my clutch being stuffed up earlier (putting it the most nicest civilised way possible).

$377 for a damn service.. and $99 extra that i wanted for a wheel alignment and balancing..

$377 sounds like a bit to me.. so i'm wondering what everyone else has been charged?

plus they better fix this damn clutch related issue.. it's starting to really wear down on me.

[as001]

Man where u getting your car service thats a MAD jacking just booked my car in for 20k service qouted me $255

[V205]

Dealership car servicing is like open seasons! Just be glad you're not a girl... :P

[VirIIx]

ugh yeah... damn dealerships... but it's close to work..

i checked the invoice and looks like it's really just labour...

and funny that.. it took them 2 hours to get it done before i got the call..

to me.. that should be 200 bux.. bastards - oh well.

They lubricated the clutch tho.. so it's not creaking anymore.. heh

[aaronng]

Shit man! That's bloody ex! I just booked my car in for it's 12 month 20,000km service. It's $247! Includes wheel rotation and balancing (no alignment). I'll be bringing my own oil, so it'll be slightly cheaper by 30-40 bux. Come to my dealer! They lubed my clutch and when the noise came back, they changed the cylinder.

[coladuna]

ugh yeah... damn dealerships... but it's close to work..

i checked the invoice and looks like it's really just labour...

and funny that.. it took them 2 hours to get it done before i got the call..

to me.. that should be 200 bux.. bastards - oh well.

They lubricated the clutch tho.. so it's not creaking anymore.. heh

You got totally ripped off. It cost me around $230 excluding engine oil. Including engine oil, it would have been around $260 mark. I complained to the dealer because I thought that was excessive compared to $117 for the 10,000km service.

Don't be too happy with the lubrication as well. Mine came back after a few thousand km. On a happier note, I got my clutch master cylinder replaced today. The gear shift is so much smoother and easier compared to before. It's like driving a totally different car.

[VirIIx]

I wasn't in the mood to have a shit fight about anything.. i'll be taking my business elsewhere that's for sure - even if i have to travel further (good excuse to take a day off work :))

The lubrication makes the car feel different - i'm so used to the resistance and the creaking.. but when you put the clutch right down you can feel it stick as it releases. I'll give it a few days/weeks.

pos honda..

[Mr_05Euro]

man it sounds like i got ripped off too , i paid $247 just for the 1st 10,000 k service.

[as001]

It always pays to call around for service should always call atleast 3 or 4 places local to you i found prices varied as much as 80-100 dollars

[aaronng]

man it sounds like i got ripped off too , i paid $247 just for the 1st 10,000 k service.
My 10,000km service was $247 as well. Both 10,000 and 20,000km involves the same procedure. It is the 40,000km service that is more expensive because of valvetrain clearance checks.

[VirIIx]

My 10,000km service was $247 as well. Both 10,000 and 20,000km involves the same procedure. It is the 40,000km service that is more expensive because of valvetrain clearance checks.

I don't think my Euro will last for the 40,000km service ;)

and the feel of the creaking has come back already... no noise yet..

absolutely hopeless.

[aaronng]

Just got my car back from the 20,000km service. Cost me $198 with my own oil. The only downside I can see is that they use clip on weights to balance the 16" wheels. So there is scratching where it is put on and taken off.

[jamchen]

yup i agree that its a bit rip off by the dealer... 20,000km is considered as minor service... the only thing they change is the engine oil....
the 40,000km will be actually more than double than what you paid for the 20.000km :S:S but before you make the appointment,, just call all dealers within your area/range and you will be amazed the differences in $$ among dealers.
out family's MDX had her 40.000km major service about 4 months ago... prior the service i rang up two dealers for quote... one dealer wanted 750+ ( it could be more coz i also demanded ATF and rear diff. oil flush and change) where the other one quoted me 450!!! i won't quote the names of the dealers as it might be no appropriate to do so...

[stephen8512]

wooooo.......my car is nearing 15,000kms
its sitting at 14555kms atm.......im still deciding whether I should go to HANNYS at 15,000kms (ive never been there but apparently all HONDA modifiers go there to get their car tuned and serviced) or if i should just go to my normal honda dealer at 20,000kms

[VirIIx]

where's hanny's?

[aaronng]

Hanny's is in Smithfield. Supposed to be good!
Unit 3. 28 Victoria Street. Smithfield NSW 2164. Australia. ph: 02 97255115

[Ronin]

Just got mine done. With my own oil, it costed me $220.50 including car hire for the day.

[VirIIx]

ahhh Hanny's!! that was the place my mate was recommending me to go to.

only that it's in smithfield... too far for me :)

only he kept calling it something different, they prob changed name since his time with a honda :D

[eurosp]

Any recommendation (like Hanny's) in Melbourne?

[aaronng]

Recommended by S2ki forums.

C R S Automotive
(Cnr Thompson & Mc Leod Road )
Patterson Lakes
VIC 3197
(03) 9776 1505

[PERTH_EURO]

$233 today.

Few interior bits changed out under warranty too, and Euro-r pedal kit fitted.

[eurosp]

Recommended by S2ki forums.

C R S Automotive
(Cnr Thompson & Mc Leod Road )
Patterson Lakes
VIC 3197
(03) 9776 1505

Is this place very good? Does it know Honda in and out?
Can you point me to this S2ki forums.

[aaronng]

The person who runs CRS used to be a Honda service manager (does that mean he is good or bad? Service managers are bad to deal with when it comes to warranty work :) )
The guys at s2ki has used CRS and seemed to like them. Here's the link to the thread. http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=310295

[eurosp]

aaronng, thanks for the link. It looks promising. Every one on the s2ki forum recommend them. :thumbsup:

[BiLL|z0r]

Sorry to kick up an old thread but some of you guys are getting ripped off hardcore.

My 20K service yesterday was $227.50 including FEO oil and tyre rotation. I also got free loan car for the day but that's included in my contact (Huge selling point for me as cant be without a car for more than 20mins.)

[Entity]

heh, about to book mine in for 20k, convinced now to not pay over 250 :P

my first one was only around 140 though so its on the right track.

[corn_flakes]

car dealerships are ***in dodgy...i'm not even gonna service my car at the dealership....

i'll take the risk and just service it with my mechanic...i doubt anything big would go wrong in the first 3 years...at least i hope not

one of the fun things u can do is get a permanent marker and mark little dots on your air filter, oil filter, etc...then when u get the car back, check them for the dots...

u'd prolly find that those dots are still there and those mofos havent changed anything but the oil...and even i'm doubtful of the oil change

[BiLL|z0r]

I know they at least change my oil because I check when I get home that's it's clean again.

[Entity]

just booked mine in for 20k (only done 14k though)

quoted $265, a little more than usual but nothing like $377!!

last time i brought it in they fixed my creaking issue with the notorious parcel tray and also replaced a split boot which was spitting oil everywhere so i was happy with that and am willing to pay a for them to do it again.

these threads are good to keep track of the prices around sydney :)

[falco]

My 20000k service was $218
I have just been quoted $580 for my 80000k service. I nearly fell over when told that.
Thats not even a spark plug change, its just fuel & air filter. :thumbdwn:

[yfin]

Falco - what is included in that service to bump it up to $580?

[benthx]

Hey Guys

I notice on service intervals they recommend doing tyre rotation. Is there any interaction between this and a wheel alingment? eg. if you have had a wheel alignemnt say at 20000km and then have tyres rotated at 30000km will this change the alignment?

Ben

[falco]

AsI said, just a fuel filter & air filter, and obviously the oil filter & oil change. :(

[yfin]

AsI said, just a fuel filter & air filter, and obviously the oil filter & oil change. :(
Shop around and let us know whether other dealers are similar in price.

By the way if you are sticking with the OEM air filter you can use the one from the Acura TSX that costs $22AUD and change it yourself (Acura of Escondido on ebay). I think it costs $45 in Australia so if you order 2 or 3 you are ahead even with shipping costs. Not a lot of saving but there are other goodies you may wish to buy at the same time..

[aaronng]

Falco - what is included in that service to bump it up to $580?
It could be because of the valve clearance check. That's done every 40,000km.


Hey Guys

I notice on service intervals they recommend doing tyre rotation. Is there any interaction between this and a wheel alingment? eg. if you have had a wheel alignemnt say at 20000km and then have tyres rotated at 30000km will this change the alignment?

Ben
Nope, alignment shouldn't be affected by a tyre rotation.

[falco]

Thats right the book does show valve clearance check.
Do they actually do this ????

[YouRow]

I just did the 10k service, including honda oil and a new oil filter for $196. Getting the cd player replaced next week under warranty. :thumbsup:

[corn_flakes]

i'm gonna do the servicing myself, and just bugger the 3yr/100,000km warranty!

:D

3k kms to go till my 10,000km mark...

[petsfact]

i was quoted 225 for 30000km service and booked in for 23rd sept. also told i get to choose FEO or Magnatec no differeence in price, which one should i go for?

[aaronng]

i was quoted 225 for 30000km service and booked in for 23rd sept. also told i get to choose FEO or Magnatec no differeence in price, which one should i go for?
Up to you. I'd go FEO. Magnatec is nice if you are not the kind of person to let the engine idle for 30 seconds when you first start the car in the morning. But Magnatec 10w-40 starts to break down in about 7000km. If it is the Magnatec 10w-30 semi-synthetic, then that is much better and I'd be tempted to give it a go.

[h1coupe]

do you guys have to take your accords in for checks at 10000km intervals?

my service intervals are at 15000km. my first check is tomorrow and I´m expecting it to cost me an arm and a leg:( but I live in Iceland so it´s not something to go by;)

[Suntzu]

My 20 000 was about $220 with a free wash and wheel rotation. I was happy with that.

[curik]

My 20000 was less than $260. That includes bringing my own oil, $5 oil disposal charge, 2 rubber inserts for the wipers, and fixing the sunroof rattle. Thanks to white brown cat, Motul 8100 X-cess is really good!!

[aaronx88]

Thanks to white brown cat, Motul 8100 X-cess is really good!!

I'm agree!!! I felt the difference as soon as I drove off the service centre. The acceleration and revving is so much smoother. Also, the engine seems to warm up much faster as well.

I managed to get Motul 8100 X-cess for about $47 (after 20% discount) and I paid $200 for the service without oil. Originally, I was quoted $235 with FEO, thus I will definately pay the $12 difference. I will also put Motul 8100 X-cess into my Jazz next week and will report back how the oil perform in Jazz.

Aaron

[albii]

today i did my 30000 service and it cost me $179..not a bad price i thought.

[euro69]

getting mine done this monday coming up....
got qouted $256 for the 20,000km service.

[civicVI]

anyone have qouted for the 20,000km service in melbourne?

[aaronng]

anyone have qouted for the 20,000km service in melbourne?
Call the dealers in Melb and get a quote from each.

[swguy]

man it sounds like i got ripped off too , i paid $247 just for the 1st 10,000 k service.
And i paid $250 for my 10,000 service :(

[Euro05]

Had my 20000km service this morning. Expected to pay over $200 but it only cost $166, plus they repaired a nail/puncture in my right rear tyre as well. Scored!

[tony1234]

And i paid $250 for my 10,000 service :(
Before your next service(30.000k)phone around,you'll be surprised at the diff.:confused:

[Rice_4_life]

why dont u do the services urselves? u buy the parts and fit em urselves saves heaps. unless u hav a model which is known for faults then u bring it in to retain the warranty

[civicVI]

why dont u do the services urselves? u buy the parts and fit em urselves saves heaps. unless u hav a model which is known for faults then u bring it in to retain the warranty


i think people do the services with dealer ...they just want the stamp from dealer in the service book!!!!
the stamp cost a lot!

[yfin]

why dont u do the services urselves? u buy the parts and fit em urselves saves heaps. unless u hav a model which is known for faults then u bring it in to retain the warranty
I disagree as it is false economy. Save yourself a few hundred and risk losing the entire warranty on a 35k+ car? Every car can have out of the ordinary issues - it doesn't have to be a common fault for your transmission or a major engine issue to occur and you could be left thousands out of pocket. And it has happened on this model.

Licensed mechanics are not that expensive - you don't need to go to the dealer if you don't want to. A licensed mechanic will also pick up potential issues a back yard wannabe will never notice. I also pity the fool who tries to sell a second hand Euro with no stamps whatsoever in that service book (like i said - it doesn't have to be a dealer stamp). My 2 and a 1/4 cents...

[Rice_4_life]

tats tru but wit all bakyarders sum cant b trusted, esp wit the mechs tat do a variety of diff car brands usually skimp out on sum parts and re-use the shit out of the sump washer.

so far only the jazz seems to b havin some troubles wit the trans in autos so keep it in warranty those of u hu hav em.

[yfin]

so far only the jazz seems to b havin some troubles wit the trans in autos so keep it in warranty those of u hu hav em.

Unfortunately other newish cars including the CL9 have the odd, unusual problem. This pic looks pretty expensive to me :(:

http://tsx.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33203

http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/7859/uploadenginevh3.jpg

[tony1234]

I disagree as it is false economy. Save yourself a few hundred and risk losing the entire warranty on a 35k+ car? Every car can have out of the ordinary issues - it doesn't have to be a common fault for your transmission or a major engine issue to occur and you could be left thousands out of pocket. And it has happened on this model.

Licensed mechanics are not that expensive - you don't need to go to the dealer if you don't want to. A licensed mechanic will also pick up potential issues a back yard wannabe will never notice. I also pity the fool who tries to sell a second hand Euro with no stamps whatsoever in that service book (like i said - it doesn't have to be a dealer stamp). My 2 and a 1/4 cents...
I agree.You don't have to go to a dealer,just a reputable mechanic.As yfin says,it's not worth the risk.Also who would buy a car without any service stamps in the books?I wouldn't.

[msnealo]

tats tru but wit all bakyarders sum cant b trusted, esp wit the mechs tat do a variety of diff car brands usually skimp out on sum parts and re-use the shit out of the sump washer.

so far only the jazz seems to b havin some troubles wit the trans in autos so keep it in warranty those of u hu hav em.

Conversion done for those who don't want to feel like they're reading a SMS on their phone.

Rice_4_life
That's true but with all backyarders some can't be trusted, especially with the mechanics that do a variety of different car brands usually skimp out on some parts and re-use the shit out of the sump washer.

So far only the Jazz seems to be having some troubles with the transmission in auto's so keep it in warranty those of you who have them.

[panda[cRx]]

ok time for the reply from ozhonda's resident honda dealer service advisor :p


yup i agree that its a bit rip off by the dealer... 20,000km is considered as minor service... the only thing they change is the engine oil....
i can't speak for all dealers but at our dealer we do alot more than just change the oil. for the average auto euro the 20k service comes to about $335 with us but we:
-change oil AND FILTER
-full wash and vac incl steam clean of engine
-transmission service (change of fluid) (we do every 20,000km)
- tyre rotation
- top up all fluids and all the usual service stuff


The person who runs CRS used to be a Honda service manager (does that mean he is good or bad? Service managers are bad to deal with when it comes to warranty work :) )
The guys at s2ki has used CRS and seemed to like them. Here's the link to the thread. http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=310295
yes carl shcembri used to be a honda dealer service manager, but he has been sacked from every dealer he has worked out. i've seen seen service invoices and quote from CRS that an ozhonda memeber with an s2000 had. not only was he being ripped off price wise, he wasn't getting nearly as much done as a dealer would do :thumbdwn:

imo the guy talks alot of shit so be careful
i also advice against recomending people unless you have had experience with them :thumbdwn:

(these opinions are MINE and are not those of ozhonda :wave:)


Thats right the book does show valve clearance check.
Do they actually do this ????
yes, it's usually done every 40,000km. the only time it wouldn't normally be done is if the car is in for the equivalent of the 40k service and they have only done like 21k


do you guys have to take your accords in for checks at 10000km intervals?

my service intervals are at 15000km. my first check is tomorrow and I´m expecting it to cost me an arm and a leg:( but I live in Iceland so it´s not something to go by;)
yes ALL australian honda service schedules are every 6 months or 10,000kms (whichever comes first)... with an optional oil change in between at 5,000km

anyway all the melb peeps should be servicing with us at travis honda anyway :D

edit: this is a long ass post, u better rep me bitches :p

[corn_flakes]

when servicing ur honda...

whateva part they say that they'll replace in the logbook, get a permanent marker and put a little dot or line on that part...and when u get home, check to see if that part is replaced or not...

if you want to avoid dodgey mechanics reusing ur old parts...

[Rice_4_life]

[QUOTE=msnealo]Conversion done for those who don't want to feel like they're reading a SMS on their phone.

...wot is this an english exam? u my teach? get off my bak

[msnealo]

...wot is this an english exam? u my teach? get off my bak

Relax I was just mucking around...I should of put in one of these...:p

20k service at Tynans Kirrawee $137 and that includes wash and vacuum. Very happy.:thumbsup:

[tanalasta]

That's not bad. $135 was for my 10000km service (nice job) and that's WITHOUT the oil as I paid $68 for my own Motul 8100 on top.

Done at one of my local Honda Service centres (considered the best Honda dealer to service at in Perth).

[tony1234]

Anyone who gets a service(10-20-40,000km.or whatever)should post it here and state price and dealer name(no negative comments only positive) so the rest of us can compare prices and quality of workmanship.just an idea!!!

[catixen]

i take mine to hannys performance, 40000ks spend like 300 and still change the oil on my auto gearbox, all they do is hondas you should try them

[TypeG]

any price for 10000km service price in Melbourne?

[civicVI]

i booked my 20000kms in JOHN BLAIR (Mel) all done $335

[aaronng]

i take mine to hannys performance, 40000ks spend like 300 and still change the oil on my auto gearbox, all they do is hondas you should try them
Did they do the valve clearance check as well for $300?

[aaronng]

i booked my 20000kms in JOHN BLAIR (Mel) all done $335

Ouch... It's $250 here in Sydney (Rick Damelian)

[civicVI]

anyone did service in JOHN BLAIR (Mel)?

[msnealo]

Ouch... It's $250 here in Sydney (Rick Damelian)

Ouch....My 20k was only $137 in the wonderful sunny Sutherland Shire

[aaronng]

Ouch....My 20k was only $137 in the wonderful sunny Sutherland Shire

Hehe, we keep getting ripped off.

[tony1234]

Ouch....My 20k was only $137 in the wonderful sunny Sutherland Shire
Good price,i'll keep that in mind.(i've got 10k on mine ATM).Is that Tynans?What do u think of their service?Good,not so good?

[tony1234]

This service cost thread is great.the more input from everyone the better.:thumbsup:

[civicVI]

i booked my 20000kms in JOHN BLAIR (Mel) all done $335

i just did my 20000kms service in JOHN BLAIR (Mel)! NOT $335 .... its cost $396.3:( they are good service but a bit exp!

anyone know which honda dealer is good and cheap in Mel! so that i can go next service!!:D

[EuroDude]

$320 for mine (no loan car)

20,000km service $172.50
Drain Washer $0.75
Oil Filter $16.18
Honda Engine Oil $56.25 (they sell it for $30 in their spare parts dept.)
Oil System Flush $17.75
Fuel Treatment $18.20 (wtf is this???)
Waste oil disposal $4.95
Workshop Supplies $19.95 (wtf i'm paying for their tools?)



ripped..

[tony1234]

$320 for mine (no loan car)

20,000km service $172.50
Drain Washer $0.75
Oil Filter $16.18
Honda Engine Oil $56.25 (they sell it for $30 in their spare parts dept.)
Oil System Flush $17.75
Fuel Treatment $18.20 (wtf is this???)
Waste oil disposal $4.95
Workshop Supplies $19.95 (wtf i'm paying for their tools?)



ripped..
What's this oil system flush and fuel treatment?I'll bet it's Wynns or something like it.HA do not recommend ANY additives(it says so in the manual).Next service tell them where they can stick their additives,all they are is revenue raising for the service dept.Workshop supplies are fluids they may use to top up PS,brake fluid,radiator etc.(they all charge this).My service dept.charges me $12.00 for this!!!

[aaronng]

EuroDude, you got ripped off. Change to a different dealer for servicing. PM me for my dealer details ($250 for 20,000km service)

[tanalasta]

1. Refuse to pay for any additives as they are not part of the routine service and are a way for the service department to make easy money. Furthermore, argue that these are not endorsed by Honda Australia and that you will hold them responsible for any potential damage.
2. Oil flushes are DEFINITELY not recommended.

[EuroDude]

The thing is, I get two years extra warranty if I stick with my dealer.

U think an extra $70 every 6 months for 3 years (total $420) is enough to justify the extra 2 years?
Or buy Honda's extra 3 years wty for something like $700 and ditch this dealer?

[aaronng]

The thing is, I get two years extra warranty if I stick with my dealer.

U think an extra $70 every 6 months for 3 years (total $420) is enough to justify the extra 2 years?
Or buy Honda's extra 3 years wty for something like $700 and ditch this dealer?

Damn it's one of those dealers that offer their extended dodgy warranty. Our Astra had a similar dealer. Can you say $450 20,000km servicing?

If you value the extra 2 years of warranty, then stay with your dealer.

[EuroDude]

$450? zomg thats hectic

Maybe next time i'll ask them not to do the oil flush and fuel additive, and bring my own $30 Honda FEO oil

They will probably add some other BS charge like "flush and changed halogen fluid" or something lol

[tony1234]

$450? zomg thats hectic

Maybe next time i'll ask them not to do the oil flush and fuel additive, and bring my own $30 Honda FEO oil

They will probably add some other BS charge like "flush and changed halogen fluid" or something lol
If u want to stick with same dealer ask for no additives and byo oil.That'll save you approx.$70!!!!

[conroe]

Thats right the book does show valve clearance check.
Do they actually do this ????

Actually I don't think they do unless you made a complaint about losing power. I believe in many new cars they don't look at the valve clearances, because if it is not done properly, it will make it worst instead.

When I first got my 10k service, the Honda dealer charged me $210 + my own oil. I feel they are ripping me off. I never take my car back to them ever since.

[aaronng]

Actually I don't think they do unless you made a complaint about losing power. I believe in many new cars they don't look at the valve clearances, because if it is not done properly, it will make it worst instead.

When I first got my 10k service, the Honda dealer charged me $210 + my own oil. I feel they are ripping me off. I never take my car back to them ever since.

Valve clearance check is in the service manual. They also must check it in order to minimise free play for the vtec mechanism.

[conroe]

Valve clearance check is in the service manual. They also must check it in order to minimise free play for the vtec mechanism.


So does a lot of other things such as wheel rotation and replacing pollen filter, but how many dealers attend to these?

[aaronng]

My dealer does all of it except pollen filter because I replaced my pollen filter already. If they ever tell me to change my clean pollen filter, I know they are trying to rip me off.

Oh, and in addition to wheel rotation, they also balance the wheels.

[jasonbb]

I just had my 30000 service for $177 including oil and oiling the door seals.

[conroe]

Your dealer must be an exception but I wonder how much they charge you for the service. I had 40k and 50k service by 2 different dealers and none of them changed the pollen filter. As a matter of fact when I question 1 of the dealers about whether the filter needs to be changed he has that dumb look on his face and ask me for the second time what type of filter it is. I didn't make a big deal out of it because they didn't charge me for it but that indicates to me how much priority they give to these type of thing.

[aaronng]

Your dealer must be an exception but I wonder how much they charge you for the service. I had 40k and 50k service by 2 different dealers and none of them changed the pollen filter. As a matter of fact when I question 1 of the dealers about whether the filter needs to be changed he has that dumb look on his face and ask me for the second time what type of filter it is. I didn't make a big deal out of it because they didn't charge me for it but that indicates to me how much priority they give to these type of thing.

Well, the service is $250, but I bring my own oil, so it comes up to $210. At least they didn't change it for you and pop on an additional $80 for it!

[tiger266]

Got booked in for $225 at essendon honda in MELBOURNE for 20k service.

[^__^ SM ^__^]

Booked 10,000km service at Essendon Honda for $195. Is that good price?

[tony1234]

Booked 10,000km service at Essendon Honda for $195. Is that good price?
I paid $138 for 10k service(i supplied my own oil)and oil filter change at Collins Honda Rockdale Sydney.BTW this was 6 mths. ago.

[tony1234]

Got booked in for $225 at essendon honda in MELBOURNE for 20k service.
Sounds like a good price.I'm getting 20k service next week.Got quoted $220(i supply my own oil)from Collins Honda Rockdale Sydney.

[tron07]

Just book mine for the 10k service.... Price is about 190, probably bringing my own oil, so not sure about the price.

No wash, or addition of any hanky panky stuffs...

[tony1234]

Just book mine for the 10k service.... Price is about 190, probably bringing my own oil, so not sure about the price.

No wash, or addition of any hanky panky stuffs...
I was told to take off approx.$38 if you bring your own oil.BTW i'm changing from using Castrol Edge 5W30 to Elf Excellium SM 5W30.supposed to be better than Castrol and only $10 more for 5ltrs.$55 instead of $45.:thumbsup:

[hotout]

20k service, $322 at Scotts Honda Artarmon, they charged me total of about $35 for engine oil and petrol additives! fek, I didn't even ask for it. Should I go back and get them to drain the oil?

[tony1234]

20k service, $322 at Scotts Honda Artarmon, they charged me total of about $35 for engine oil and petrol additives! fek, I didn't even ask for it. Should I go back and get them to drain the oil?
Too late now,before you paid the bill you should have checked it then questioned the additives and refused to pay for them because you didn't ask for them nor does HA recommend them(it says so in the manual)Additives are a revenue raiser for the service dept.:thumbdwn: :thumbdwn:

[Jaso]

Remember when you are ringing up comparing prices ask what the service includes and what it doesnt....

[tron07]

I was told to take off approx.$38 if you bring your own oil.BTW i'm changing from using Castrol Edge 5W30 to Elf Excellium SM 5W30.supposed to be better than Castrol and only $10 more for 5ltrs.$55 instead of $45.:thumbsup:

Where you get the edge for $45?? So far all the Castrol price I see is $48 I think Kmart have discount sometime back, but missed it.

[che_ryan]

Shit man! That's bloody ex! I just booked my car in for it's 12 month 20,000km service. It's $247! Includes wheel rotation and balancing (no alignment). I'll be bringing my own oil, so it'll be slightly cheaper by 30-40 bux. Come to my dealer! They lubed my clutch and when the noise came back, they changed the cylinder.

Arrong, where about is your dealer? $247 looks like a good deal to me and my 20k is coming up soon.

what oil are you using btw?

cheers

[tony1234]

Where you get the edge for $45?? So far all the Castrol price I see is $48 I think Kmart have discount sometime back, but missed it.
$44 actually.From my contact at local Honda spares.He gives me less 10%.:thumbsup:I'm going to use Elf Excellium SM 5W30 from now on,it's only $10 more and supposed to be better than Castrol.

[kleung]

My car is in for its 20,000 today. Quoted $235. Works out to ~$200 since I'm supplying my own oil. Eastern suburbs, Melbourne.

[aaronng]

Where you get the edge for $45?? So far all the Castrol price I see is $48 I think Kmart have discount sometime back, but missed it.

Saw it at $45 at Supercheap (discount) or Autobarn (I think regular price) the other day.

[aaronng]

Arrong, where about is your dealer? $247 looks like a good deal to me and my 20k is coming up soon.

what oil are you using btw?

cheers

The $247 price was when I was living in Sydney. Serviced at Rick Damelian.

[tron07]

I paid $138 for 10k service(i supplied my own oil)and oil filter change at Collins Honda Rockdale Sydney.BTW this was 6 mths. ago.

Whoooooo... just done my 10k km service....

Damage $132.xx
Using my own oil, get them to check the brakes cause it was squeeling in the morning/cold stops and the oil clutch paddles (dont think they did anything to the clutch, as the receipt mention it was normal).
Tire rotation and front tire balanced.
Extra $2.xx for some washer water stuffs.

Pretty good :thumbsup:

[tony1234]

Whoooooo... just done my 10k km service....

Damage $132.xx
Using my own oil, get them to check the brakes cause it was squeeling in the morning/cold stops and the oil clutch paddles (dont think they did anything to the clutch, as the receipt mention it was normal).
Tire rotation and front tire balanced.
Extra $2.xx for some washer water stuffs.

Pretty good :thumbsup:
tron07,did they change filter?cause it's not part of the 10k service in the manual!!BTW what oil did you end up using,Castrol Edge?

[tron07]

Nope, no filter change.
Castrol Edge 5W-30.... $48 from Kmart.

[petsfact]

Whoooooo... just done my 10k km service....

Damage $132.xx
Using my own oil, get them to check the brakes cause it was squeeling in the morning/cold stops and the oil clutch paddles (dont think they did anything to the clutch, as the receipt mention it was normal).
Tire rotation and front tire balanced.
Extra $2.xx for some washer water stuffs.

Pretty good :thumbsup:

what was done to fix the cold stops brake squeeling? mine is doing exactly the same thing....... :(

[aaronng]

^^ Get new pads. It's because of the OEM pads that they squeal.

[tony1234]

^^ Get new pads. It's because of the OEM pads that they squeal.
I agree.i changed mine at 8k:thumbsup:.OEM pads =crap.

[petsfact]

does late model euro come with an updated pad?

[tony1234]

does late model euro come with an updated pad?
06 onwards does apparently.

[tron07]

The pads is still crap, but then it would be a waste to change them at 10k... maybe 20~30K.

Anyway, it had stop squeeling for now, will see how it goes. Normally for squeeling brakes, they just remove the pads, sand it/clean it, apply some soft of grease/sillicone like thingy. Thats what I get my mechanic to do with my previous car. With the Euro service center, I can only see my car on the hoist from afar... With my previous cars, I would be standing right there to see the action.

[tony1234]

The pads is still crap, but then it would be a waste to change them at 10k... maybe 20~30K.

Anyway, it had stop squeeling for now, will see how it goes. Normally for squeeling brakes, they just remove the pads, sand it/clean it, apply some soft of grease/sillicone like thingy. Thats what I get my mechanic to do with my previous car. With the Euro service center, I can only see my car on the hoist from afar... With my previous cars, I would be standing right there to see the action.
I changed mine at 8k.IS motorsport at Rockdale have some nice pads for our Euros.

[tron07]

I am thinking of getting sport paddles for mine.... anyone interest to get it together at IS??

[tony1234]

I am thinking of getting sport paddles for mine.... anyone interest to get it together at IS??
I am.How many of us here do we need for a group buy at a good price?:D

[tron07]

I am not sure, just read that someone install his at IS around 200-300. You know anyone there? Maybe can contact and find out more info.

I tried to search for that thread but keep getting some error.

Maybe we should bring this discussion to a proper thread.

[aaronng]

I am thinking of getting sport paddles for mine.... anyone interest to get it together at IS??

Sports paddles?!

[tron07]

Sports paddles?!

http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/1098/mugenendut102zq.jpg

typo... but you should know these stuffs.... racing pedals/sport/etc or whatever you call them...

[aaronng]

Oooh, the EuroR metal pedals.

[vtek]

Totally wrong they check all the valve clearances at 40k intervals as part of the service. Valve adjustments if done properly should make the engine more quieter if the they are loose. If they are not adjusted properly they can ride and burn the valves. If the valves are burnt you will have to pull the head off and would be a costly experience.

When you go to the dealer you are paying for the service, knowledge, experience. The technicians are Honda trained and have access to techinical bulletins, proper work shop manuals, honda HDS computer, Honda workshop tools to support for the Honda product.

There are big over heads in opening up a dealership and i can bet you $1M that if Joe blows workshop had overheads as high as the dealers have and charge what they charge they would probly go under in no time.

You get what you pay for and my question to all you Euro owners whether its more worth it to spend $XXX now or $XXXX amount later??


Actually I don't think they do unless you made a complaint about losing power. I believe in many new cars they don't look at the valve clearances, because if it is not done properly, it will make it worst instead.

When I first got my 10k service, the Honda dealer charged me $210 + my own oil. I feel they are ripping me off. I never take my car back to them ever since.

[big jim]

local dealer quoted me $448 for 60000 service which I thought was excessive so rang Klosters in Newcastle who quoted $278 which is for oil, oilfilter and brake fluid change.Rang my local dealership back about the $170 dollar differance in price,their reply was there is a billing code error on their computer system and that they will charge me the same price as Klosters.Rang honda about another matter today (headlights with moisture) and asked about the differance in price,the said that the dealers are franchises and that honda do not set or reccomend serviceing costs that is up to the dealers.

[take_no_prisoners]

Is MTF changed every 20g or 40g kms?

[tron07]

Going for my 20k service this Friday, quoted around $280-290. Will be using my own oil, so should be lesser than that price.

[snajper]

10K = $309 incl courtesy car (Honda dealer)
20K = $159 NRMA liverpool
30K = $165 NRMA Liverpool

40K = probably I wil take it back to the dealer bcs they have to check valve clearance

50K back to NRMA

etc

[stalin]

50k service due, was quoted 170$ from honda..is that good price? and also i put the oil last week, fully drained and refilled with new oil, should i ask them to reduce the price by 30$? is that how it works? also would anyone know how much they would/should charge for machining the discs??

[tron07]

Back to office.... service was completed around 9.00 but they took sometime to fix a rattle in the steering (air bag) area, so got the car back at around 9.30 or so.... Steering rattle was still there, but not so noticeable as previously.

Cost, around $198, plus wheel balancing (not sure got alignment, will have to refer to the receipt).

[unity]

any price for 10000km service price in Melbourne?

$189 at GWS

[revivor]

is it true that servicing Euro's are expensive?

I'm going to book mine for a 60k/70k service coz i just bought the car and the odo is now at 69k. The prev owner skipped the 60k service.

Do you guys know what its gonna cost me?

Funny thing is I have a 1yr warranty from the dealer i bought the car with an existing 2yr Honda warranty on top of that. Should I use the dealer or Honda?
:confused:

[pachepa]

Guys, i just rang 3 places to get the price on 40k service for my 2005 AccordEuro.
Well, here's what i was quoted
Hanny's 1) 200-300 depending if fuel filter needs changing (guy wasn't sure - do'h?)
Parra Honda 2) ~500 (had to give them vin no to get a quote WTF?! probably they give different quotes to ppl for same thing all the time?!)
Artarmon Honda 3) 550

Any advice?

I'm more inclined to go with Parra Honda as they're not the cheapest and not the dearest (plus close to my home). Anyone had any experience with them? I'd appreciate the feedback here or PM.
Thanks!!

[aaronng]

Is Parra Honda Trivett Classic?

At 40k, you don't need to change the fuel filter, but you need to change the air filter and do valve clearance checks.

[pachepa]

Yep Trivett Classic.
Thanks for quick reply aarong. Have you been to them, are they any good?
I was actually told that they change all filters :-/ nothing was mentioned re valve clearance check but I assume they'd do since they charge so much. Will double-check anyway if I go with them.

Also wanted them to check steering pull to the left (i know there are 20+ pages regarding this on forum :) ) but now afraid its gonna cost me an arm and a leg...

[aaronng]

Yep Trivett Classic.
Thanks for quick reply aarong. Have you been to them, are they any good?
I was actually told that they change all filters :-/ nothing was mentioned re valve clearance check but I assume they'd do since they charge so much. Will double-check anyway if I go with them.

Also wanted them to check steering pull to the left (i know there are 20+ pages regarding this on forum :) ) but now afraid its gonna cost me an arm and a leg...

Ask them about valve clearance check as well. They are good, my colleague uses them. I don't because I do my servicing myself now.

As for pulling to the left, I wouldn't have the dealer try to fix it because they just misalign the subframe to compensate. I'd get a proper wheel alignment done to my specs. Also, does it pull to the left when you are in a shopping mall car park? Or does it happen only on the street?

[tron07]

I send my car to trivette... pretty good to me, but then I usually wait for them to finish servicing my car. Pefer to my earlier post for the pricing for 20k service.

[pachepa]

Thank you for your input guys!!

I've heard before that 40k and 80k supposedly are the dearest. So i'll have to bite the bullet. I just wanted to make sure in Parra's Trivett guys know what they do, as i've heard a lot of stories that in service centres servicing is mainly done by apprentices, so its not always the best service u can get for that money.
I was told it would take 4-5 hours and they'll do the whole shebang. When i get home i'll get the log book and have a look at what needs to be done, then check with the guys at trivett parra.

As for the car pulling to the left, I don't want to start a new post here :), but its sort of not constant. When i was driving on hume hwy I've felt it pretty strong, sometimes when i break it pulls harder. I have to admit, i haven't tested it in a carpark - will have to do that - but on Sydney roads it comes and goes - weird. I've red on this forum that the rods most likely need to be checked. I'll probably go to Hannys for this one.
Thanks guys for your input!!

[aaronng]

As for the car pulling to the left, I don't want to start a new post here :), but its sort of not constant. When i was driving on hume hwy I've felt it pretty strong, sometimes when i break it pulls harder. I have to admit, i haven't tested it in a carpark - will have to do that - but on Sydney roads it comes and goes - weird. I've red on this forum that the rods most likely need to be checked. I'll probably go to Hannys for this one.
Thanks guys for your input!!
On regular roads, the pulling is caused by road camber, which you can't fix it by regular means. Since it comes and goes, then it is tramlining or following camber, not pulling because of an suspension/alignment problem.

[tony1234]

June 2008 i paid $229 for a 40K service.this didn't include air filter(have K&N filter) or oil(supply my own).
It included(copied from receipt)
Replace engine oil and filter
Checked and topped up all fluids
Bled brakes and replaced brake fluid
Checked ft.and rear brakes
Ft.85%,rear 70%
Checked and adjusted handbrake
Rotated tyres
Inspected valve clearances
Inspected and adjusted all drive belts
Checked alignment of lights
Visually inspected tie rod ends,steering gear box
and driveshaft boots
Checked and re tensioned suspension and steering components
Inspected brake hoses and lines including ABS
Checked exhaust system operation
Checked operation of all electrical components and accessories
Inspected fuel lines and connections
Degreased engine bay
Roadtested vehicle
Apparently it costs more if they have to do an actual valve clearance.Mine was a check and it was within spec.

[MiSloVic]

June 2008 i paid $229 for a 40K service.this didn't include air filter(have K&N filter) or oil(supply my own).
It included(copied from receipt)
Replace engine oil and filter
Checked and topped up all fluids
Bled brakes and replaced brake fluid
Checked ft.and rear brakes
Ft.85%,rear 70%
Checked and adjusted handbrake
Rotated tyres
Inspected valve clearances
Inspected and adjusted all drive belts
Checked alignment of lights
Visually inspected tie rod ends,steering gear box
and driveshaft boots
Checked and re tensioned suspension and steering components
Inspected brake hoses and lines including ABS
Checked exhaust system operation
Checked operation of all electrical components and accessories
Inspected fuel lines and connections
Degreased engine bay
Roadtested vehicle
Apparently it costs more if they have to do an actual valve clearance.Mine was a check and it was within spec. wow! Only 229! I said 379 last month for my 40k service in melbourne. Supplied own oil and did not change air filter as well. prices vary too much..

[tony1234]

wow! Only 229! I said 379 last month for my 40k service in melbourne. Supplied own oil and did not change air filter as well. prices vary too much..
I go to Collins Honda in Rockdale(Sydney).Great service,reasonable prices and don't argue with you on warranty issues,they just fix them.:thumbsup:

[pachepa]

hmm, thanks for sharing the info guys!!
will be ringing Collins Honda (Rockdale) shortly :)) if I get to save a hundred bucks or so, then its worth travelling there.
Tony1234, how much oil is required to be supplied? i'd rather buy my own. Which one do you use?

[pachepa]

hmm, thanks for sharing the info guys!!
will be ringing Collins Honda (Rockdale) shortly :)) if I get to save a hundred bucks or so, then its worth travelling there. :thumbsup:
Tony1234, how much oil is required to be supplied? i'd rather buy my own. Which one do you use?

[MiSloVic]

slightly off topic, but for those of you who supplied own oil, do you check that Honda really put that into your engine? how would you know if they really did and what if they don't?
i've experienced once with a mitsubishi dealer, who used his own oil, instead of mine. I suspect that my Honda dealer did the same as well.. i've always supplied my own castrol edge sport 5w30, and know its characteristics. the oil in my just-serviced Euro smelt differently... it has a much stronger 'oil smell' and looks thicker and a shade darker, quite unlike the edge sport.

[aaronng]

slightly off topic, but for those of you who supplied own oil, do you check that Honda really put that into your engine? how would you know if they really did and what if they don't?
i've experienced once with a mitsubishi dealer, who used his own oil, instead of mine. I suspect that my Honda dealer did the same as well.. i've always supplied my own castrol edge sport 5w30, and know its characteristics. the oil in my just-serviced Euro smelt differently... it has a much stronger 'oil smell' and looks thicker and a shade darker, quite unlike the edge sport.

I get them to return the unused portion of oil. So if they to take the trouble to pour out your supplied oil, then they might as well pour it straight into your engine.

[Euro08Jaz]

i was talking to friend who told me that if you bring in good oil they are going to use in their own cars instead. it honestly would not surprise me the least, i think for my 20k service im going to a trusted mech, dealer services are huge gimmick that warranty is an excuse for.

[shakkas]

at trivett parramatta, you can watch all the workstations from the lounge so you can see what they are doing.

it was fascinating, had a book with me but didnt touch it as i was watchin them with the car

[tron07]

Yeap... I watch them from the lounge on top and get free coffee....

plus they return the unfinished oil to me, dont even ask them to do so. I always ask them not to wash my car, and currently they have the express service or was it F1 pit stop service or somthing like that, 1 or 2 hour service. Forgot what they call already.

[pachepa]

In this case, wouldn't it be better to get them to put an OEM oil in and then just change it yourself?! :) I really don't feel like sitting there for 4-5hours watching them "torturing" my car :) (i was told 40k service takes about 4-5 hours).

[pachepa]

I go to Collins Honda in Rockdale(Sydney).Great service,reasonable prices and don't argue with you on warranty issues,they just fix them.:thumbsup:

Hmm, this is F'd. I just rang Collins Honda Rockdale, was told normal price for 40k is $525, would do it for me for 490 as new customer. 450 with my own oil. what's going on? :(

I'll ring them tomorrow and tell them that a friend has recommended them but he paid much less, wanna see what they have to say.

[tony1234]

Hmm, this is F'd. I just rang Collins Honda Rockdale, was told normal price for 40k is $525, would do it for me for 490 as new customer. 450 with my own oil. what's going on? :(

I'll ring them tomorrow and tell them that a friend has recommended them but he paid much less, wanna see what they have to say.
The price they're quoting you must include valve clearance check AND adjustment.mine didn't need adjustment so therefore it was cheaper.Ask them how much $$$if they find after checking valve clearance it's within spec and doesn't need adjustment.Also remember i didn't get my air filter replaced as i have a K&N.

[pachepa]

That's the thing!! I asked about it Valve Clearance check straight away. Was told that they just "listen" and if it "sounds" ok then its fine since those engines are generally good. Pardon my english, but that's pretty much what i was told.
I think the only things that were not included on yr receipt is air filter change and car wash. :-/

[pachepa]

That's the thing!! I asked about it Valve Clearance check straight away. Was told that they just "listen" and if it "sounds" ok then its fine since those engines are generally good. Pardon my english, but that's pretty much what i was told.
I think the only things that were not included on yr receipt is air filter change and car wash.

[conroe]

That's the thing!! I asked about it Valve Clearance check straight away. Was told that they just "listen" and if it "sounds" ok then its fine since those engines are generally good. :-/


I'm not surprised by this at all. As I mentioned before, even just about every new car service manual states that valve clearance needs to be checked and adjusted, yet despite the number of new cars people that I know and I, have owned in the past, have yet to hear that the valves has been adjusted by the servicing dealer commensurate with the cost.

You see, when the word check appears in the service manual to the dealers it is a goldmine because that's exactly what they would do which would only take a few minutes yet they would charge you for the whole hour.

Everytime there is a major service that needs to be done they'll say it is going to take 5 hours or more, however more often than not, I can see more than half of that the car just sit around not being worked on!

[glengowan]

Just had 20,000 service done today at Gold Coast Honda Tweed Heads $278.00

[pachepa]

The price they're quoting you must include valve clearance check AND adjustment.mine didn't need adjustment so therefore it was cheaper.Ask them how much $$$if they find after checking valve clearance it's within spec and doesn't need adjustment.Also remember i didn't get my air filter replaced as i have a K&N.

Spoke to Collins Honda again. Told them was quoted $490 and a friend who recommended them did 40k in JUNE for around $300 mark (told them that air filter and engine oil were supplied). I was told that if i did the same, still would be looking at around $400 dollar mark. :eek:

Soo, decided to try out Trivett in Parra, same price but close to home.

Thank you guys for all your contributions!!

[tony1234]

Spoke to Collins Honda again. Told them was quoted $490 and a friend who recommended them did 40k in JUNE for around $300 mark (told them that air filter and engine oil were supplied). I was told that if i did the same, still would be looking at around $400 dollar mark. :eek:

Soo, decided to try out Trivett in Parra, same price but close to home.

Thank you guys for all your contributions!!
I have no idea why there's such a price difference.I'm looking at the invoice from Collins now.:confused:

[MiSloVic]

stock paper air filter is apparently 'very expensive'.. I didnt ask honda's, but stock mit outlander's cost almost $60 plus gst! K&n costs around $90.. The decision is a no braines.

[tony1234]

stock paper air filter is apparently 'very expensive'.. I didnt ask honda's, but stock mit outlander's cost almost $60 plus gst! K&n costs around $90.. The decision is a no braines.
Yeah,Euro air filter is approx.$60.I got a 2nd.hand K&N for $50,i agree,no brainer.

[MiSloVic]

I have no idea why there's such a price difference.I'm looking at the invoice from Collins now.:confused:

1 theory: since the plunge in AU dollar, Honda and its dealers are trying to recoup the exchange rate difference.. easiest way to do that, without hitting sales is to raise the cost of servicing.

[tron07]

if they do that, they will be digging their own grave....

[MiSloVic]

if they do that, they will be digging their own grave....
the hefty price rise coincides with the drop in AUD :confused:

[pachepa]

if they do that, they will be digging their own grave....

I agree, i don't think its because of the world crisis. Maybe they're just simply greedy?! :secret:

[pachepa]

Hi guys, if anyone is still interested:

I went to TrivettClassic Honda, brought my own air filter and oil filter (is ryco a good brand?), and my own 5ltr canister of CASTROL 5w30 oil (picked it all up at repco for about 130 bucks).

So, here's what's been done (from invoice):

- Replaced Engine Oil
- Replaced Engine Oil filter
- Inspected valve clearances
- Replaced air cleaner element
- Inspected all drive belts
- Visually inspected steering gearbox & tie rod end bolts
- Visually inspected suspension components
- Visually inspected driveshaft boots
- Visually inspected brake hoses & lines including abs
- Visually inspected exhaust system
- Visually inspected fuel tank & connections
- Visually inspected tyre condition
- Inspected tyre condition and rotated tyres
- Inspected parking brake adjustment
- Inspected front and rear brakes
- Checked headlight, tail, indicator, reverse & brake light operation
- Checked all fluid levels and condition of fluid
- Carried out roadtest and checked all systems & controls

The only thing that's NOT being done was headlight adjustment, as i was told it was carried out previously (came up on their computer).

Soo, for all of the above i've paid 277 bucks

Plus
- Environmental Disposal
- Shop Supplies
- Washer Bottle Fluid

totalled up to 17 bucks

Total up: 277 + 17 + GST = around $325 and that's WITHOUT the filters and oil that i've bought separately.

I also had to change my rear breakpads as per their findings, kaaching $250, which i could probably do at Hannys like 50-60 bucks cheaper. But i just wanted to get done with it & not worry about it anymore. (but next time i'll know better).

Soo, the car spent there almost the entire day. dropped it off around 8, it was ready after 4. Car wasn't washed, propably just wiped, as it wasn't dusty on the outside but still had smashed bugs on the front bumber. Wasn't vacuumed either. Soo I cannot say I was "over my head" with level of service. They did return the unused oil lefrovers however.

I've also reported strange clicking noise in the steering column when right indicators (for example) swithed on and i'm turning the wheel to the right. Was told its normal sound made by the indicator cancelling mechanism. Do you guys have same thing with your Honda's?

[conroe]

I also had to change my rear breakpads ...., which i could probably do at Hannys like 50-60 bucks cheaper. But i just wanted to get done with it & not worry about it anymore. (but next time i'll know better).




I don't think so. For years I've been going to that place, now I know how much they've ripped me off compare to other non Honda mechanics.

If they charge you less, that's because they will tell you to use non gen parts, otherwise you'll probably only saving 20-30 bucks.

The following is true. Previously, they used to charge me $50 for Honda oil then $16 for Honda oil filter plus GST.
Honda only charge around $32 for the oil and that's for a full 5 litres and already including the GST, then $15 bucks for the filter. Go figure.

Yes Honda servicing labour is still more expensive at the end, but by how much if you only do normal book service. Hanny will tell you, you need a major service every 20000kms, what a load of CRAP. The book will say the trans oil doesn't need to be replaced until over 100k kms, but believe it or not Hanny will replace it after only 20k km. What a waste!

[laijer]

Just booked in my 20,000km service = $216
Also getting my scratched window tint replaced (under warranty) and felt applied to the rubbers to stop them scratching again.