Team Aguri Suzuki Honda?

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Official announcement should come soon im guessin...


[01/11/05 - 08:49]
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Team Aguri Suzuki Honda?
Honda's second team on the way...
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Aguri Suzuki ran Hosuke Matsuura in IndyCar
Japanese driver Takuma Sato is expected to join a new Formula One team to be sponsored mainly by Japanese Internet firm Softbank with engines supplied by Honda Motor, a news report said Tuesday.

The team, which will join Formula One from next season, will be led by former F1 driver Aguri Suzuki of Japan and include Sato, the Yomiuri Shimbun said.

Suzuki's office said in a statement he would hold a press conference at Honda's headquarters in Tokyo, but officials were not available for immediate comment.

A Honda Motor spokesman in Tokyo said the automaker had no knowledge of the reported developments.

Sato was dropped by BAR Honda last season, but said he has received an offer from a team making a bid to join the competition.

Suzuki was involved in recent years in the IRL IndyCar series with Adrian Fernandez and Honda.

E.A.
Source AFP

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and here it is.....



http://formula-1.updatesport.com/news/content/gfxHeadline.php?text=Super+Aguri+F1+enters+for+%27 06
Honda 'b' team latest
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The expected announcement of the long-rumoured Honda 'b' team came this morning with the confirmation in a press conference in Tokyo that 'Super Aguri Formula One' has submitted an entry to the 2006 season.

With former f1 driver and Japanese-series team owner Aguri Suzuki at the helm, the team, however, faces a fierce struggle to compete next year.

Although deals are in place for Honda engines and Bridgestone tyres, the new team would almost certainly be unable to design and build a new chassis in time for the 2006 season. It has long been thought they would use 'customer' versions of the new BAR008, but the Concorde Agreement would make this very difficult to do.

"There is little else we can do without Honda's assistance" Suzuki explained "as far as the chassis is concerned we can not compete without help from Honda and BAR."

Suzuki explained that the application had been lodged last week, but a formal entry would not be granted until, at the earliest, January.

The team will run from the old Arrows/TWR facility at Leafield in Oxfordshire, UK, as expected.

No mention was made of the financial backers of the outfit although Suzuki did venture that a budget in F1 'is never enough'.

As for drivers, mention was made that negotiations are taking place with ex-BAR man and Honda favourite Takuma Sato (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/driver/11/Takuma-Sato/view.html), while Anthony Davidson (http://formula-1.updatesport.com/profiles/item/formula_one/driver/28/Anthony-Davidson/view.html) has been strongly tipped for the second seat.



Written: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 09:25:49

EDIT:
instead of making new posts... decided to add to this one...



[01/11/05 - 10:55]
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Suzuki announces new Formula One team
Super Aguri Honda files F1 entry with the FIA
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A new venture for Aguri Suzuki in Formula One
Former Japanese star driver Aguri Suzuki announced Tuesday he would lead a new Formula One team next season with engines supplied by Honda. Suzuki, 45, said his "Super Aguri Formula 1" had submitted an entry form to the FIA last week.

"I'm filled with the desire to hoist Japan's flag on the podium as a constructor or team," Suzuki, who became in 1990 the first Japanese to score a podium finish in a World Championship round, said. "I have joined many races. If I look at them as mountains, F1 is like climbing Mount Everest. No one knows what will be waiting for us ahead ... but I will do my best," he said.

The team will be based in Langley in Oxfordshire in Britain and use the factory of disbanded Arrows team.


"We will use Honda V8 engines but the drivers are undecided," Suzuki told a news conference at Honda headquarters in Tokyo.

Suzuki said Japanese driver Takuma Sato, who was dropped by the BAR Honda team last season, could be one of the drivers. "We are in talks with Mr Takuma Sato and are also negotiating with several other drivers," he said.

Suzuki said the team was also negotiating with possible sponsors as "F1 is a world in which you can never have enough money."

Asked about news reports that Japanese Internet firm Softbank would provide financing, he said: "I would be grateful if such a major, wonderful company becomes our sponsor."

Suzuki also said he wanted to ask Bridgestone to supply tires. Further details of the team will be announced between late January and early February, he said.

While the team has Honda backing, Suzuki denied it was the Japanese automaker's second team, saying Super Aguri Formula 1 was original. Honda will own the BAR Honda team outright next year.

E.A.
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[**Ghost**]

excited about the team.... not so keen on the muppet Sato being back on the track... demolition derby is more his game :)

[Miss Chanel]

I dont see why drivers that can compromise the safety and performance of others on the track should be allowed to be on the top level of motor sport. :(

[**Ghost**]

cos he is japanese and its good PR and advertising for Honda Japan to have a Japanese Driver.... it sells tickets, brings followers, generates cash

[Miss Chanel]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a391/Maglet1986/eusa_eh.gif even if he sucks?.. wow.. ud think that ppl that followed motor sport would know better.. but guess not.

[civiceg9]

Honda B Team lol, haha now Honda can compare the Bridgestone and Michelin tyres. Plus the advantage of doing double testing.

I would only sign Sato for a year, if he drives like shit just kick him out.
too many chances for him. Wonder how Anothony Davidson would go?

[pornstar]

awesome, hope they do well.

[TwEigh]

he (sato) wasnt that bad in 2004.. was pretty good actually in 2004
he piece of crap in 2005 though

"Team Aguri Suzuki Honda"
sounds like Suzuki - Honda car manufacturers joint venture...

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i reckz this will be Sato's last chance (thats if he gets the seat in the first place...)...
if he dun shape up in '06... game over...

herez a pic of Aguri
dun wanan point out the obvious.. but he dun look lik ur typical jap... :P

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[j3z3z]

bet all the drivers are scared once again. satos back for more accidents

[Hondavirgin]

Aguri is an ex F1 driver, i think he raced for Tyrrel?

Very cool, but i thought customer chassis were still banned? or have i missed some rule changes (there's so many, i lose track). As for drivers, i think they need to bring in an experienced driver to run with a young guy, someone who is very good at testing and development work (i.e. poach one of the bigger teams experienced test drivers).

[j3z3z]

haha put the drift king into the car lmfao. then we get to see f1 race :) lol be fully sick

[LUD02C]

100% fantastic news for both the sport and us spectators.
Sato to drive for them?
I wonder if they will make him Cast Iron Steel Wishbones (Thank you Martin for that comment, it will live on forever)

[nEUROtic]

Yep this is definately good. Now it wont just be squadra vs midland. These dudes will be in the mix too meaning the minor placings could be interesting!

All new news i think so far has been great!

Cept sato driving again. He sucks the fat

[Vivski]

Poor Sato, it's not his fault he's crap. Good to hear there's going to be a new team. Lets hope they dont embarass Button by beating him in a B team car.

If 2004 was good and 2005 bad, maybe 2006 is going to be a good year for Sato. That's if it alternates.... if it's linear then he'll be even worse! Lol.

[quangsta]

is it me or isnt there much hype about the 'honda b team'......havent heard anything bar wats on this forum....

[j3z3z]

go to formula1.com itv-f1.com f1central.com they all have info on it

[redliner]

i think i should be in sato seat
i can do as much damage as he can

[Vivski]

Keep dreaming! You couldn't do half the damage Sato does! :p

[hihidamon]

So, does anyone know any updates on status of this Super Aguri Honda Team? Have they managed to officially lodge the entry application to the FIA? When is the deadline? Was is Nov 18 or 28th?

Have they found a loophole yet to use 1 year old chassis from this years BAR?
Or is this just another talked up team which will never be materialised?? :wave:

[Hondavirgin]

They have lodged all the paperwork and stumped up the fees and all for entry. haven't heard anymore about their chassis though.

[hihidamon]

That means the team have pretty much sorted out their chassis arrangement with all concerned parties right? FIA must have approved the use of off the shelf chassis, as no one is that stupid to pay such big amount of entry fees with a firm confirmation from the governing body.....
Great, we have 22 cars on the grid next year then! :thumbsup:

They have lodged all the paperwork and stumped up the fees and all for entry. haven't heard anymore about their chassis though.

[SiReal]

You know the Softbank group is owned by a guy thats i think around 40ish, not even hes got his own baseball club fukuoka softbank hawks (formerly fukuoka daiei hawks), and now hes heading into F1. bloooooody rich guy and such a young age. Also i think runs Yahoo's Braodband service in Japan as well.

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as said above... they've submitted all the paperwork... n atm. just waiting for FIA's confirmation....
as for the chassis... most likely they'll be gettin it off a third party (being BAR)...

heres their official site... .if you can call it that............
http://www.superaguri-f1.com (http://www.superaguri-f1.com/)

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an update...



[23/11/05 - 11:45]
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Arrows chassis for Super Aguri?
A23 the solution for the 11th team?
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Limited options for Aguri Suzuki
Super Aguri F1 is awaiting the go-ahead from the FIA after submitting their application to compete in Formula One next season. One major sticking points has been finding a suitable chassis in time to make the grid in Bahrain next march. Now according to Reuters the new squad could run the old Arrows chassis currently owned by Paul Stoddart.

The Mike Coughlan designed A23 chassis was at the time a very competitive chassis. So much so that when Arrows closed its doors, then Minardi owner Stoddart purchased the chassis' and the intellectual rights to the design at auction. Minardi tested the car and used some of the concepts on its final designs.

"We are negotiating with them, it's the only thing that makes sense given the time scale that they have got," Reuters reports Stoddart as saying. "It is something that is very, very do-able and the car would be able to run in Bahrain. Any other option is either against the Concorde Agreement or very difficult to achieve."

Super Aguri F1 has setup shop in the former Arrows facility at Leafield and has been advertising in the national press and local papers for staff. Should the team conclude a deal to buy the old Arrows designs, then they have either the option of converting the car to house the new Honda V8 powerplant or perhaps placing this year's Honda v10 into the car. The team are expected to run Takuma Sato with a number of drivers linked to the second seat.

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[hihidamon]

Oh no... That would be freaking sloooow! Even the all Conquering Ferrari F2003 would be a shit box by today's standards, let alone the "Also-ran" Arrow A23 for next season...... Why should they bother to do that ... just making the Honda image looks bad ... whether it be a V8 or v10.... :confused:

[Hondavirgin]

Yeah, seems like a very bad idea using a three year old design.....

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i guess its better than not racing at all...
they're just gonna test the water next season....

[hihidamon]

Fortnately, at least the 107% qualifying restriction didn't apply anymore ...... otherwise I am pretty sure that A23 wont be able to make it to the grid in any of the races, even if Schumi is driving. :D
i guess its better than not racing at all...
they're just gonna test the water next season....

[LUD02C]

I'm sure they would make some adjustments to the A23.
They wouldn't be putting alot of money in for no reason.

Then again, if you do have Sato driving for you, you might as well put a XY Phase III GTO shell with a F1 engine. At least the dents wouldn't show as much :)

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driver line up is confirmed for Super Aguri
1. Takuma Sato (lolz)
2. Yuji Ide

[RyDC5S]

Takuma is a joke. That guy can't drive.

[Dxs]

flogged from another forum..

car hits barcelona"
Barcelona - 21/02/06
1. M. Webber - Williams Cosworth FW28 - 1'17"699 (+0"000) - 45 laps
2. K. Raikkonen - McLaren Mercedes MP4/21 - 1'17"790 (+0"091) - 59 laps
3. R. Doornbos - Red Bull Cosworth RB2 - 1'18"439 (+0"740) - 46 laps
4. T. Monteiro – MF1 Toyota M16 - 1'18"717 (+1"018) - 59 laps
5. J.P. Montoya - McLaren Mercedes MP4/21 - 1'18"875 (+1"176) - 22 laps
6. T. Sato - Super Aguri Honda SA05 - 1'30"244 (+12"545) - 8 laps
7. N. Rosberg - Williams Cosworth FW28 - 1'37"188 (+19"489) - 16 laps

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old skool.. but looks horn and pure...

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the cars still not legal (aero wise)... the one at Bahrain will be slightly different..

[LUD02C]

Its far from legal from what I read.
Old chassis, old engine (compared to other teams)
Was it smart to enter this year?
I'm not so sure

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Was it smart to enter this year?
I'm not so sure
yeah it was very rushed...
but once their SA06? (new chassis) debuts they should be able to challenge the bottom teams...

anywayz ...


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Glock, not Firman, on Aguri F1 shortlist
With Montagny and Rossiter
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Timo Glock
On a shortlist already occupied by Franck Montagny and James Rossiter, former Jordan racer Timo Glock - despite his 2006 GP2 deal - is also in contention for Super Aguri's Friday seat, a source in the German media says.

However, not to confuse issues, there is no link between another ex-Jordan racer - Ralph Firman - and the Japanese formula one team.

In actual fact, the Anglo-Irishman, 30, has penned a 2006 contract to drive for F1 team owner Aguri Suzuki's 'Super GT' team in Japan.

Aguri's F1 rookie Yuji Ide, meanwhile, has set pulses racing by vowing to 'imitate' the driving style of controversial countryman and teammate Takuma Sato.

He also told La Gazzetta dello Sport that he is not worried about the giant leap from Formula Nippon to F1.

''The jump from F3 to Formula Nippon was harder,'' the Japanese said. ''I just need to improve my English and my knowledge of the tracks.''

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lolz...

[hihidamon]

Wait a minute.... I thought they have the same brand new V8 (and proved to be very competitive so far) as the Honda works team from the first race.....??

Its far from legal from what I read.
Old chassis, old engine (compared to other teams)
Was it smart to enter this year?
I'm not so sure

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yep...
they're running Hondas V8 (keep in mind it might not be the latest spec)...

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some pics of the modified chassis (for '06 regulations)... looks lik they're gettin their shyt together...:thumbsup:

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[LUD02C]

To me, I think with honda behind them they should be challenging the mid field by next year.

As long as they can use Honda's wind tunnel etc they should be right.
They should be ahead of Midland and Toro Rosso, but then again Sato could ruin everything.