Euro quater mile time

[Vtec_inside]

was at the drag last nite at the motoplex for woop arse wednesday. Saw a blue accord euro ran 15.47 sounded and looked stock to me, just wanted other ppl opinion, is that quite possible for such a heavy car.

[BiLL|z0r]

For sure. It would have been manual. Prolly had a CAI for some extra kw, but totally plausable.

[Tobster]

The sorts of times recorded by Wheels for a stock Euro are about (from memory without looking it up) 8.2 seconds for the 0-100 km/h and about 15.8 for 400 m -- and Wheels do their correvit tests with 2 people and (I think) a full tank of fuel, averaged over several runs.

So the time there is quite realistic with only one person in the car.

I always remember that Wheels had recorded (looking at the stats in the back, although obviously recorded under different conditions) the exact same times for a manual base Euro as an automatic (NA) BA XR6.

[yfin]

Plenty of people have got around that time so nothing special

[euro1978]

Interested to know the launch and gear changing techniques to get a time like that but I reckon its definately doable.

[Chris_F]

yep - it's been done more than once :cool:

[NeRV]

So whats more worthwhile, in terms of speed? CD5 with H22A conversion.. or a EURO?

[Chris_F]

h22a is probably gonna be quicker, and more parts available for modding i'd guess. k24a is said to have good potential tho...

[Vtec_inside]

nah k series rule . h22a is becoming a little old skool. classic if u know wat i mean. K series is present now the real in thing
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[aaronng]

In my opinion, only 2 things limit the K24A. It's long stroke, and the cylinder filling efficiency. At high RPM (I think Hondata reported above 6000rpm), there is very little way of increasing the torque short of going FI. Hence you can't get that nice torque bump that the K20A, B16b, B18C's have at that last 1000-2000rpm.

[Vtec_inside]

i thing 15.4 is prett6y good considering the car is so ****ing heavy and beside, for a na family car that not bad at all..

i think cai, extractors, vafc2 , exhaust and bored out throttlr bodie can do mid 14.sec.

[Chris_F]

Vtec_inside - i think it'd take more than just "cai, extractors, vafc2 , exhaust and bored out throttlr bodie" to get into the mid 14's. Well it takes more than that for a TSX to get there , i know that much.

maybe the best way to get big power with the k24 is mild FI?

[Vtec_inside]

turbo charge honda. that yank style. i jdm man true na tunnig if done rite can be just as deadly.

[Chris_F]

yea i'd prefer to keep it na aswell - i just dont know of any mid 14 second euro's atm, might be because a more affordable ecu option isnt available yet.

[NeRV]

I so want a EURO!, i have a CD5 atm and thinking about placing a H22A in it, but damn, EURO ACCORDS are just plain HOT!!.. actually both CD5 and EURO look hot.. imo these two are the best Accords made.. or maybe im just abit biased lol

[Chris_F]

NeRV - i'd have to agree with you man. I love cd5 accords lookwise, and especially performance wise with the h22a. Just plain hot - get a euro and be the/one of the first do a k24/k20 hybrid in australia, i'd like to see that:D

[h22a accord]

So whats more worthwhile, in terms of speed? CD5 with H22A conversion.. or a EURO?


CD5 with H22A conversion.

[redliner]

Euro Type R has H22A in it, doesnt it?

[BiLL|z0r]

Nope, K20, same engine from Integra Type R.

[Chris_F]

i think the CL1 euroR (the previous model euroR) had a h22a?

a stock euro vs. a h22a cd5 though, the cd5 is a clear winner. In saying that the euro engine has big potential and i think if both were heavily modified the euro would come out on top (especially the lighter standard model in 6mt)

[NeRV]

lol sounds like your really keen on this K24/K20 hybrid stuff Chris.. it sounds expensive, and im a poor uni student :p .. maybe you should go ahead and be the first to do it and tell everyone how it went :wave:


Nothing beats deep dish and lowered on the CD5 and EURO :thumbsup: :honda:

[Chris_F]

NeRV, haha yea - i know of someone doing a k24/k20 hybrid swap into a dc2r and after hearing the power figures they were expecting i started thinking it was a very cool idea... i'm at uni atm too man, if i land a sweet job at the end of it it's what i'll be doing too.

i'm a big fan of dished/lipped rims too (the lip on my current rims is pretty pinner haha but itll have to do for the moment)

[h22a accord]

i think the CL1 euroR (the previous model euroR) had a h22a?

a stock euro vs. a h22a cd5 though, the cd5 is a clear winner. In saying that the euro engine has big potential and i think if both were heavily modified the euro would come out on top (especially the lighter standard model in 6mt)



It would be interesting to see a cd5 h22a exi ( base model which is lighter ) and a base model euro standard go down the strip...both with cams, exhaust, intake and ECU.

heres a question that somebody can answer for me- how much potential has a h22a got compared to a k24, i know the h22a is a fairly old design and the euro engine is at least a full decade newer but how much more could you do to a k24 before it was at it's limit and what sort of power figures would you expect from it. naturally aspirated of course. My money is on the k24 making more power.

[Chris_F]

It would be interesting to see a cd5 h22a exi ( base model which is lighter ) and a base model euro standard go down the strip...both with cams, exhaust, intake and ECU.

heres a question that somebody can answer for me- how much potential has a h22a got compared to a k24, i know the h22a is a fairly old design and the euro engine is at least a full decade newer but how much more could you do to a k24 before it was at it's limit and what sort of power figures would you expect from it. naturally aspirated of course. My money is on the k24 making more power.

i'd like to see that at the drags too - would be very close.

I started up a thread in the allmotor section about the k24 potential - chuck your question in that thread too... i'd be interested to know the answer - the h22a has the advantage of a shorter stroke and potential for higher rpm i'm guessing but the euro can do the whole k20 hybrid thing which has the potential to make the enigne a beast...