Ozhonda Post Quality System / Knowledgable Posts

[dupac->]

thanks aaronng.

someting a good mod would say :thumbsup:

[dc2dc2dc2]

also how do us ordinary members know that.
Moderators are not abusing the system ? :)

[dupac->]

we wouldn't...?

i've given afew mods some points... lol im sure they havent been removed.

HAHAHA


anyways
all good in the hood.

[aaronng]

As far as I know, the points were removed from the guys who abused it. But the points given out by them were not removed as that would take ages to go through. In order to fix the mess, only the admin could do it. All mods do not have the access to removing points.

[aaronng]

also how do us ordinary members know that.
Moderators are not abusing the system ? :)

If you see a mod being kicked out and it was not a voluntary retirement, then you would know. :)

[dupac->]

As far as I know, the points were removed from the guys who abused it. But the points given out by them were not removed as that would take ages to go through. In order to fix the mess, only the admin could do it. All mods do not have the access to removing points.
cool.
thanks

[krogoth]

anyway, its happened, its over

dupac, grey1, any1 who has been reduced to newcomer status shoodnt be so fussed about it

ull get ur member status back very soon, evry1 knows now not to abuse the PQ system

and dc2^3, i still dont see how this is a popularity competition...its just a guid e for new comers....me and im pretty sure most other ppl dont judge another member by how many green boxes they have under their name

[kazam]

I think you've underestimated WHY we brought the system in. If you have a system and someone abuses it......why have it all if people are going to walk all over it. Can you elaborate as to how we've overreacted?

well, i agree with dc2X3 the PQ system is a waste of time.. but still, like taking them guys all back to 0 points is also VERY harsh... a punishment that harsh for sumthing that useless is the over-reaction. coz like wat if they had made sum geniuenly good posts? u get rid of those 2? just coz they wanted to have sum fun? IMO the system is useless.. and if your saying that its useful for helping newcomers no who's good or "has made several knowledgable posts" then i disagree.. coz sif sum1's guna go "omg that guy has 10green blocks, he must be a genius im gunna do wat he says"..

[Q_ball]

Guys, let me make a general observation here ok - ive got no biff with anyone on these boards so please dont take this personally...

The ppl who are complaining about this system on this thread (from what i can see) are from members that post prodominantly in the lounge and not the tech forums.
Why is that?
Why is it that the people who post more in the tech forums arent complaining about this PQ system?

Guys and girls, its a really simple concept.
This system isnt supposed to make everyone happy - so if its not making you happy, just deal with it cause the system is staying.
If anyone abuses it, they will be moderated.

Just understand that its a way to help us mods control the forums better - ie. to stop ppl signing up and spamming just to sell on the forums.

[dupac->]

Because we are the shit!
lol
just stop deleting the POSTS!

[aaronng]

well, i agree with dc2X3 the PQ system is a waste of time.. but still, like taking them guys all back to 0 points is also VERY harsh... a punishment that harsh for sumthing that useless is the over-reaction. coz like wat if they had made sum geniuenly good posts? u get rid of those 2? just coz they wanted to have sum fun? IMO the system is useless.. and if your saying that its useful for helping newcomers no who's good or "has made several knowledgable posts" then i disagree.. coz sif sum1's guna go "omg that guy has 10green blocks, he must be a genius im gunna do wat he says"..

If the PQ system is a waste of time, then why are you complaining that the points got reset to zero? It's like saying monkeys are useless and then complaining when the monkeys are taken away.

[krogoth]

Guys, let me make a general observation here ok - ive got no biff with anyone on these boards so please dont take this personally...

The ppl who are complaining about this system on this thread (from what i can see) are from members that post prodominantly in the lounge and not the tech forums.
Why is that?
Why is it that the people who post more in the tech forums arent complaining about this PQ system?

Guys and girls, its a really simple concept.
This system isnt supposed to make everyone happy - so if its not making you happy, just deal with it cause the system is staying.
If anyone abuses it, they will be moderated.

Just understand that its a way to help us mods control the forums better - ie. to stop ppl signing up and spamming just to sell on the forums.


:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[yourfather]

Good to see some intelligent debate about a few of the issues.

Personally, I feel that if the value of your existence is however many green dots you get on a forum board for making informative points - then you may need to reassess where you are heading with your life.

And if you find rorting a system based on honesty a joke (i.e. har har its so funny I am able to rort 500+ points in a month) whatever., I feel you should be banned.

I'm not THE perfect contributor to this forum, but I do not spread bullshit information and I do not do it in a sugar coated way.

But the points I do have from others, on the whole, have been for genuine reasons.

I believe we do not go far enough to penalize those who make no contribution to this site whatsoever except for piss and moan and pass out negative vibes.

[aaronng]

Personally, I feel that if the value of your existence is however many green dots you get on a forum board for making informative points - then you may need to reassess where you are heading with your life.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Losing the green boxes is not the end of life. And your friends know you for who are, not for the number of green boxes you have.

[yfin]

I agree with yourfather. The PQ point system is just an indicator and does not represent intelligence. And just because it is based on "honesty" is not a licence to rort the system. Members are either on the bus with the system we have or they are not. If you are not - please don't ruin it for everyone.

It is a shame that Ozhonda used to be more of a community that knew how to have fun but treated each other well. Now we have a growing group of members who spam spam spam, are immature, bitch, attack other users, come here just to sell, or have no general interest in helping others whatsoever. I look at some US Honda forums with many more members than us but they don't have the same issues to the extent I see here. We need a much more positive and helpful vibe! Only the members who care about the site can make that happen. :thumbsup:

[Nikki]

I agree with yourfather. The PQ point system is just an indicator and does not represent intelligence. And just because it is based on "honesty" is not a licence to rort the system. Members are either on the bus with the system we have or they are not. If you are not - please don't ruin it for everyone.

It is a shame that Ozhonda used to be more of a community that knew how to have fun but treated each other well. Now we have a growing group of members who spam spam spam, are immature, bitch, attack other users, come here just to sell, or have no general interest in helping others whatsoever. I look at some US Honda forums with many more members than us but they don't have the same issues to the extent I see here. We need a much more positive and helpful vibe! Only the members who care about the site can make that happen. :thumbsup:


tis what im trying to do.. fix the issues we always seem to have in the lounge... i think im doing pretty good so far

with the whole pq thing.. everyone knows/knew what would happen if they abused the system.

[|N|]

i think this system is good... if used properly....

funny how this thread actually tells me who s intelligent and who s not..

[wynode]

i agree with dupac some mods are dickheads

If this is a genuine issue make a new thread with something to backup your comments. I take such accusations seriously and I'm always open to feedback about the moderating team. PM me if you wish. If you have nothing solid to go on then don't waste our time.


I've said it once, twice and i'll say it again.
PQ system sucks donkey nads. Its all a popularity competition and should be scrapped. I know for a fact even mods compete and ask for rep points.

Just a quick question. Say myself and 4 other members. Keep repping eachother with PQ points everyday. FOR POSTS THAT WERE HELPFUL. Would i cop the same punishment ?

Thanks

Then can you please come up with a better way for us to address the issues that the PQ points system addresses? If you don't know what these issues are then I don't know how you can say it sucks(?).

You can use the system as long as its for tech posts. You can only give so many points to 1 user over a 24 hour period. Even then you have to rep other before you can rep the same person again.



no you relax.

i abused the system but i dont really mind taking the punishment, but dont make it out that it was more than it is....

Cool then that's settled.



well, i agree with dc2X3 the PQ system is a waste of time.. but still, like taking them guys all back to 0 points is also VERY harsh... a punishment that harsh for sumthing that useless is the over-reaction. coz like wat if they had made sum geniuenly good posts? u get rid of those 2? just coz they wanted to have sum fun? IMO the system is useless.. and if your saying that its useful for helping newcomers no who's good or "has made several knowledgable posts" then i disagree.. coz sif sum1's guna go "omg that guy has 10green blocks, he must be a genius im gunna do wat he says"..

I refer you to my reply to dc2dc2dc2 above. Feel free to make a new thread explaining to us how the system can be better implemented in such away that it addresses all the problems we've had in the past.

We want to make this a better place.....so we're open to feedback (not just complaining with no positive input).

[dupac->]

i think this system is good... if used properly....

funny how this thread actually tells me who s intelligent and who s not..

how does it show the intelligence of someone?

it just shows a bunch of suck ups in my opinion..

but hey not here to stir..

Ozhonda mods are great. i love them long time. +pq this way :D

Kinda got out of hand with this pq stuff.. i seriously do not see what the fuss is all about now. all getting fired up. but yeah

i love it

[yourfather]

to be perfectly honest, the only people behaving badly were a select few sydney dickheads that only post in the lounge and beat each other off to their own private little jokes.

the rest of the sydney crew seem quite nice. im not a suck up at all, and still I have 5 blocks.

so if you dont like what I have to say, you can go and f*ck yourself

[dupac->]

lol.. settle down yourfather..
too get this fired up it must of affected you really badly

i apologise if its cause you any inconvenience.

[gReY-oNe]

select few sydney dickheads

dupac and grey-one :angel:

[95civic]

dupac and grey-one :angel:

Are you proud???

[gReY-oNe]

Are you proud???

NO i was just pointin out
he shoudl of just mentioned names

we arnt proud we know wat we did
at least we are owning up to it

[dupac->]

personal attack! infraction alarm!!

woop woop woop!

personal attack!

nothign to be proud of..

but i had a great time doing it.

[yourfather]

lol.. settle down yourfather..
too get this fired up it must of affected you really badly

i apologise if its cause you any inconvenience.
If you want to make an apology, make one to every single member of the community that you f*cked around because of your immature bullshit

dupac and grey-one :angel:
im sure there are more involved.

NO i was just pointin out
he shoudl of just mentioned names

we arnt proud we know wat we did
at least we are owning up to it
if you are owning up to it, maybe you should make a combined apology thread for being such a pain in everyones ass. I didn't state names in my previous statement for a reason, its up to whoever was involved to be mature enough to accept responsibility. you got off pretty damn light.

personal attack! infraction alarm!!

woop woop woop!

personal attack!

nothign to be proud of..

but i had a great time doing it.
you should have been banned.

[m3ntAL_l2]

lol always thought y is that guy on 6blocks,...... :/

[dupac->]

lol always thought y is that guy on 6blocks,...... :/
they weren't ALL rawted. some ppl actually gave real points

lol..

towards the end got outta control..

acceptance is the key
lol

[95civic]

People know if they did something wrong or slipped up, its good to see people dont deny wat they have done. Everyone move on?

[krogoth]

its a sticky in site discussion regarding the PQ system

som1 should come in here and delete the last 3 pages of shit and get everything back on topic

[ECU-MAN]

as above.

everyone chill with the spamming and keep this thread on topic.

[kazam]

to be perfectly honest, the only people behaving badly were a select few sydney dickheads that only post in the lounge and beat each other off to their own private little jokes.

the rest of the sydney crew seem quite nice. im not a suck up at all, and still I have 5 blocks.

so if you dont like what I have to say, you can go and f*ck yourself

personal attack for sure, infact to be honest im not sure how this guy isnt banned yet. his a friggen personal attack machine

[aaronng]

personal attack for sure, infact to be honest im not sure how this guy isnt banned yet. his a friggen personal attack machine

Doesn't look like one to me. Looks more like a general attack. Unless you don't like what he says. If you do, then the last line doesn't apply to you. :)

[panda[cRx]]

so back the the PQ system.... now that the offenders have been punished, when will it be reinstated?

[95civic]

It has been hasnt it??

[aaronng]

Yup, it's back.

[ProECU]

i agree with dupac some mods are dickheads

I just subscribed to this thread and am all ears...

[Nikki]

^^ don't start. thank-you

[chunky]

why does Q ball still have the 'If you see a good post, give it a PQ point' phrase in his sig
hrm

[aaronng]

why does Q ball still have the 'If you see a good post, give it a PQ point' phrase in his sig
hrm

What about it?

[chunky]

OOOHHH
wtf the PQ system is back??
wen did this happen?

EDIT: dw its cool

[krogoth]

^^^lol chunx

[dupac->]

lol bump!

just wondering wh im on -25 points?

lol i guess im copping it from all the haters out there?
lol
AND it doesnt show me why i copped negative points?

red block gangster! now thats abuse!

[bennjamin]

not anymore. Old useless rep was deleted , in place before the refurbishment of the PQ system. You are back on 0. Just lucky i didnt leave you there :)

[dupac->]

thanks bennjamin.

dunno about LUCKY
but thanks

[kingyy]

still cant see how or why i am now on red ???

[beeza]

"Kingyy has a little shameless behaviour in the past" - Never seen that b4...
Aviator Pic?? j/k :)

[aaronng]

still cant see how or why i am now on red ???

It's because you plagiarised those DIYs.

[EK1.6LCIV]

Have I gotten any PQ points yet? Just curious, would love to put a few items up for sale, thanks.

[bennjamin]

you havent. And i wish people would stop joining this place with the intention of selling...it took me more than 1 year of membership before i decided to sell anything.

[Q_ball]

If youre only interested in selling, stop being a tite ass, and go pay for your advertising space - eg. tradingpost, ebay.

[EK1.6LCIV]

Nah, I'm very into Honda tuning, I was just expressing my interest into when I can sell stuff, my sole intention was not just to sell items but for the forum itself which is great and so is the site you've put together

[Couper_Trooper]

If youre only interested in selling, stop being a tite ass, and go pay for your advertising space - eg. tradingpost, ebay.

selling car parts on ozhonda would be easier
coz ur selling to a targeted group of ppl..
u would hav a better chance of selling a car part
here on ozhonda than ebay...
(im talking abt radiators, headers, instrument clusters etc.)

if ur selling hid's, rims, or other decorative stuff then ebay is good 4 dat..:thumbsup:

[dsp26]

i was just thinking after going back on a Sean Covey book (7 Habits of Highly effective teens) about 'Maintenance'.. one of things in short was friendship is like a piggy bank.. it deteriotes... unless you maintain it.. even a $1 here and there and it will grow. Superannuation funds deteriorate from fees if the interest gained cannot outweigh it...

so say maybe a deterioration system for PQ points if it is not maintained by contributing to the community.. BUT.. the higher the PQ already there the slower it deteriorates or not at all due to obvious proof and appreciation of contributions...

duno just a thought.. maybe a stupid idea.. haven't really thought it out properly or the consequences

***EDIT***
speaking of superannuation.. maybe a small bulk deterioration for every members join anniversary... or condition based.. like if a member hasn't made a notable contribution after 6months?

the suck up to admin/mods comment is a bit skewed and unjustified.. [N] was right about being able to tell who is intelligent and who is not (too an extent as i'm only speaking of relevance to contribution to this forum).. im a freaking search whore and those PQ earned by the mods/admins are well deserved.. i guarantee i'v even given some of you PQ for a thread you started long before i joined. perfect example is the DIY section...

for anyone that doesn't really have a decently sized PQ.. if they make a good sounding point.. i will wait to see if it is significantly disproven before i rep it... i have repped someone before on what sounded to be good as i knew nothing of the topic... turned out to be bollocks....technically i should be infracted for it then. i do remember getting one neg rep.. it was fair.. outright dangerous after doing further research on my own.. put a stop to long bad practice of mine.. i'd give a pq for the neg rep if i could :P

some members have even given me good advice via PM about a product that i would love to rep... and giving the advice via that method was good reason too considering topic is debatable and possible 'fanboi's' or eprsons defending a purchase would have just argued and made the thread useless





Then can you please come up with a better way for us to address the issues that the PQ points system addresses? If you don't know what these issues are then I don't know how you can say it sucks(?).

[Q_ball]

selling car parts on ozhonda would be easier
coz ur selling to a targeted group of ppl..
u would hav a better chance of selling a car part
here on ozhonda than ebay...
(im talking abt radiators, headers, instrument clusters etc.)

if ur selling hid's, rims, or other decorative stuff then ebay is good 4 dat..:thumbsup:

You;ve completely missed the point,
Ozhonda doesnt want its focus to be for members to sell their parts.
Sure it may have the audience and the traffic every single day to make this one of the best sites to place ur items up on, but its not within the site's goals to be a marketplace.

[Zilli]

[QUOTE=dsp26;1412585]i was just thinking after going back on a Sean Covey book (7 Habits of Highly effective teens) about 'Maintenance'.. one of things in short was friendship is like a piggy bank.. it deteriotes... unless you maintain it.. even a $1 here and there and it will grow. Superannuation funds deteriorate from fees if the interest gained cannot outweigh it...


Sorry to be an ass, but you might sound innacurate in a much more important situation than on Ozhonda , It's actually Steven Covey

:D

[dsp26]

lol fair enough.. BUT...

his son Sean wrote Teens variant based on his father... Stephen's book PEOPLE... :p


[QUOTE=dsp26;1412585]
Sorry to be an ass, but you might sound innacurate in a much more important situation than on Ozhonda , It's actually Steven Covey
:D

[Couper_Trooper]

You;ve completely missed the point,
Ozhonda doesnt want its focus to be for members to sell their parts.
Sure it may have the audience and the traffic every single day to make this one of the best sites to place ur items up on, but its not within the site's goals to be a marketplace.

i was just defending EK1.6CIV coz u accused him of being a tite ass...
plus u suggested selling on ebay.. & i know auto parts are hard to sell on ebay.. dats all..

anyways.. sites goal not to be a market place aye... hmmm
but selling items in ur signature is ok.. lol:D

[Q_ball]

It is actually...
You may want to check up on the rules of the forum before you start any shit with anyone on here.
Just a thought :)

[Couper_Trooper]

so it'll be fair calling u a tite ass for selling a fone here than paying fees on trading post or ebay right?

anyways.. enough of dat.. say watever u like dude...
watever helps u sleep at nite.:p

[bennjamin]

This is a car website made by enthusiasts , for enthusiasts.
Anything extra ontop ( a social forum , a for sale forum etc) is a bonus for its members and not people aiming to sell items.

Keep the replies on topic , IE any thoughts and feelings about
the current state of the PQ system.

[riruiz_88]

i have recently received some points, but for some reason they do not appear under my avatar. i know that for someone to give you a PQ point, they need to have at least 5 green blocks. but some people that have more than 5 blocks have given me points, and i would like to know why they dont appear
here is a pic of the points i have recently received...
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t18/riruiz_88/PQpoints.jpg

[krogoth]

i have recently received some points, but for some reason they do not appear under my avatar. i know that for someone to give you a PQ point, they need to have at least 5 green blocks. but some people that have more than 5 blocks have given me points, and i would like to know why they dont appear
here is a pic of the points i have recently received...


i actually havent heard of that?

and it wont show under ur name until u have more than 100 points, wen u get more than 100 points, u will get 2 boxes

for now if u hover over ur green box it will say something like "**** has made some knowledgable points"

[riruiz_88]

i actually havent heard of that?

and it wont show under ur name until u have more than 100 points, wen u get more than 100 points, u will get 2 boxes

for now if u hover over ur green box it will say something like "**** has made some knowledgable points"

Who Can Use This System?
To avoid abuse, initially only moderators will be able to hand out PQ points. However once a user has received 50 PQ points, they are allowed to alter the rep of other users.

Note: Users with less than 50 PQ points can still click the icon however there will be no change to the score of the user who receives this hit. The reasoning being that you need to build up a decent PQ score before you can hand out points to someone else.

this was taken from the very first post, i thought that you had to have five blocks but i was mistaken as i should have read properly. and i now understand more, every 100 points you get an extra block. i would have thought that every time someone gave you a point, that it would equal 100 ponts. thanx for your help KROGOTH :thumbsup:

[wynode]

Who Can Use This System?
To avoid abuse, initially only moderators will be able to hand out PQ points. However once a user has received 50 PQ points, they are allowed to alter the rep of other users.

Note: Users with less than 50 PQ points can still click the icon however there will be no change to the score of the user who receives this hit. The reasoning being that you need to build up a decent PQ score before you can hand out points to someone else.

this was taken from the very first post, i thought that you had to have five blocks but i was mistaken as i should have read properly. and i now understand more, every 100 points you get an extra block. i would have thought that every time someone gave you a point, that it would equal 100 ponts. thanx for your help KROGOTH :thumbsup:
Just updated the first post. It's actually 100points now before you can affect someone else's score.

[SHIFTY]

whats the go... im getting all these rep points but it doesnt add 2 my green bars under my nic...

whats the point of having this system if it doesnt do work...

its not like my posts dont help ppl... im a mechanic, lol

[SiReal]

lol it does work. Your green bar grows depending on the number of points you have.

[philBo]

"You must spread the reputation around before giving it to X PERSON again"


i rekn that is a load of bollocks. if someone makes a good post, you should be entitled to give them a pat on the back through repping. it shouldn't matter if they were the last, 2nd last or even 3rd last person you rep'd or what not.

I understand that its probably implemented that way to reduce misuse, but goddamn its annoying.


it simply stops spam repping and encourages members to rep others rather than only a select group.

Go rep someone else , and then rep the person for something else if you must.

yes ive already acknowledged, but it goes against the sentiment that you should be able to give a rep to someone as you stumble across threads. the fact that you're saying 'go rep someone else, and then rep the person' would suggest to go and rep someone else for the heck of it.

just my 2c worth...

[krogoth]

phil, i understand wer ur coming from

but unfortunatley, ther are or have been some immature silly ppl abusing/misusing the rep point system

so, i think this system of not being able to rep the same person too frequently is ther as spamproof system

its not perfect...but its a compromise

just pm the person that helped u and say to he/she that u tried to rep them but it u have been repping them too much lately

[bennjamin]

Yup , its the people who use the system , that have changed it to the way it stands now. Dont blame the game , blame the players !

[dc2dc2dc2]

it has never changed ?
its always been that was hasn't it?
i think its good like ben said sstops u reppin' same group of people.

[aaronng]

it has never changed ?
its always been that was hasn't it?
i think its good like ben said sstops u reppin' same group of people.

Changed. The number of people you have to spread rep to before you can rep the first person again has increased substantially because of that circle repping fiasco last year.

[wynode]

As krogoth said. Things were tightened up after this (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=76392).

[philBo]

Krogoth speaks the truth. It's just like he said now. It used to be less times between points you could give to someone BUT as always some members decided to mess with the system so now everyone pays the price to try and keep the system fair to all, so don't blame the mods pass the blame onto who deserves it some of your fellow members.

im not blaming anyone, so get it right. if its not going to be used in a proper manner, AND if its in a state such that you have to go give reps to x number of others first; then its really of no use to anyone. just can the whole thing altogether i say.

[dc2dc2dc2]

something i've wanted long ago :)
rep points is the worst thing to be brought to ozhonda.

[philBo]

something i've wanted long ago :)
rep points is the worst thing to be brought to ozhonda.

thats the first thing ive heard from you that i actually agree to, after all these years. much love.

well that and the following


mrwillz is be-de boy

[wynode]

something i've wanted long ago :)
rep points is the worst thing to be brought to ozhonda.
Then how do you propose we address and fix the problems that the rep points / PQ points system was brought into resolve?

If you can't suggest a better system then things stay as they are.....if you can then I am all ears.

^ That is a genuine question

[mrwillz]

i'd like to know as well dc2dc2dc2
so much critiscm, wheres the ideas mr perfect and 'goot skin' guy?

[ProECU]

Hey I got a bad rep for this post:
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1508256#post1508256

If thats not a personal vendetta against me by ECU-MAN then i dont know what is

Mods - remove the bad rep - thankyou.

[bennjamin]

what was the reason for giving you the neg. rep ?

[ProECU]

"sounds like wrong information to me"

[bennjamin]

just post info to prove it wrong and we will get it removed

[ProECU]

lol, whatever.

Ill just bad rep everyone and have them prove it wrong.

[dupac->]

lol good work.

[ProECU]

just post info to prove it wrong and we will get it removed

taken from hondata USA website

"Hondata modifies standard Honda engine computers (ECUs), adding features and expanding the capabilities of the ECU"

http://www.hondata.com/aboutus.html

Make sure the neg rep is gone Benny.

[wynode]

something i've wanted long ago :)
rep points is the worst thing to be brought to ozhonda.
Just as I thought......no justification as to how the PQ points system should be replaced.

[dc2dc2dc2]

who says i wanted it replaced.
i just want it scrapped. :)

[krogoth]

-____-

win told u earlier the PQ system wont be removed until som1 suggests another system that adresses the same issues the PQ system has fixed

so it cant just be scrapped, it needs to be replaced with something else

and u know that

[ProECU]

Just as I thought......no justification as to how the PQ points system should be replaced.

Stop spamming my thread.

I have now provided supporting evidence against the blatantly obvious intentional neg rep so please rectify.

+1 Neg rep to Win for spamming
+1 Neg rep to John for incorrect Neg Rep.

Thankyou

[wynode]

Stop spamming my thread.

I have now provided supporting evidence against the blatantly obvious intentional neg rep so please rectify.

+1 Neg rep to Win for spamming
+1 Neg rep to John for incorrect Neg Rep.

Thankyou
This isn't your thread you clown.......not to mention the fact that ben is dealing with it, not me.

Furthermore.....the PQ points system ('rep' system) is not used for spamming. That is the infractions system.

If you are not happy with Ben's actions then PM me (and only then) and I shall review it.

[bennjamin]

taken from hondata USA website

"Hondata modifies standard Honda engine computers (ECUs), adding features and expanding the capabilities of the ECU"

http://www.hondata.com/aboutus.html

Make sure the neg rep is gone Benny.



Gone.

[ProECU]

thank you kindly gentlemen, ladies & clowns too

[dsp26]

Replacement...

I say all the Performance workshops or specialists who do various work (with registered ABNs etc) that are memebrs of OH should be the only ones professionally qualified to +rep tech/useful posts.... but then i'm sure they didn't join OH to be librarians reading everyday :p

OR confirmed OK contributions in the DIY/Tech section is the only place to be able to rep.. this excludes reviews obviously... like seriously, a lot of issues should be consolidated in a "TECHNICAL" section anyway so as to prevent repeat posts... in the <2yrs i've been here i've seen some questions repaeated over and over because some don't know how to search or genuinely not know what to search for, but a lot of the answers over the months have been great and sometimes even add value to old information (ie, intellectual redundancy) and they rightfully get +PQ... but the crowd is right, it's the same people getting it over and over....

but i reckon if the main issue and purpose of PQ system is to prevent mass sellers etc.. i say stick to old school sale/membership rules which some other forums still use..
- Paid membership.. contribution bands.. even $10 i'm sure everyone can afford that measly amount, at the end of the day it's still a contribution to the forum/community
- minimum posts
- minimum time

Sorta works out in my head if the world was fair... more people pay for membership (even if each member contributed $1-$2 considering the number of members we have, it in turn alleviates sponsorship costs, sponsors HOPEFULLY decrease some of their prices.. the whole OH community contributes....

I refuse to believe that a shitload of members here can't even afford $5-$10 considering how much help some of the people get on a technical level.... in all honesty to the mods/admins/owners/etc... if you left it the way it is even i wouldn't find a need to donate/support.. the only reason i personally did was because of the tremendous amount i have learned from this site courtesy of those who contribute selflessly... shit my mechanic won't help me at 1am on an issue where others here can and have... that aside, the persons who have worked on my car (you know who you are and i rarely let others work on my car) with their "OH/mates rates" has already made up for my measly donation...

like seriously.. ppl have to realise you can't get something for nothing.. against the law of physics

[/rant]

[ProECU]

ok, all previous bullshit, resentment etc aside - I fail to see what the benefit of such a system really is...
Are you guys trying to implement a system whereby those new here have a measure to rank peoples knowledge on this site? becuase clearly it is still being abused (eg my situation above)

Perhaps Wyn you could elaborate some more or if you have already point me to where it is...

[bennjamin]

At a glance this "rep" system is the only thing helping others choose who to listen to , and who not to ( when it comes to technical posting).

No other reason behind it.

Mind you lot , there are many examples of online forums that have tried and failed with a similar system. Can anyone link a forum out there with a not-so abused rep system ?

[ProECU]

so effectively you're implementing a system that promotes mediocracy. What happened to buyer beware? - you know - do your own research ??

I mean generally, people are inherantly lazy and this system promotes that.
Why even bother? seriously?

It also disadvantages new members whom may have a wealth of technical knowledge

[krogoth]

^i can see wer ur coming from wen it comes to disadvantaging newcomers with lots of info

but look if they contribute that much useful info, 5 to 6 helpful posts a day

theyll def be noticed and climb the green dots ladder in no time

ther are lots of members wer this is the case

again im not saying the system is perfect

but i think ozhonda is a more useful/better place with it

[ProECU]

5-6 useful posts a day - I dont think this place gets that many in 1month.

[dsp26]

but look if they contribute that much useful info, 5 to 6 helpful posts a day

theyll def be noticed and climb the green dots ladder in no time

ther are lots of members wer this is the case

admittedly, i noticed JohnL is one of these:thumbsup:

[aaronng]

5-6 useful posts a day - I dont think this place gets that many in 1month.
If you are here just to browse, then why does this affect you so much?

[ProECU]

If you are here just to browse, then why does this affect you so much?

affect me so much? you shouldnt assume. Furthermore, dont try make this about me - youre missing the point

[Bludger]

I think my knowledge of Honda's far exceeds many on this forum.

but its useless making a helpful post cos its just on deaf ears as myself with no green blocks am not heard as much as others with much less knowledge and many green blocks.

i see some things posted by ppl with many green blocks to be utter bullshit

/end rant

thanks

[ProECU]

I think my knowledge of Honda's far exceeds many on this forum.

but its useless making a helpful post cos its just on deaf ears as myself with no green blocks am not heard as much as others with much less knowledge and many green blocks.

i see some things posted by ppl with many green blocks to be utter bullshit

/end rant

thanks

people like aarong?

[kazam]

i actually find aarong 2 be one of the most useful mods on this forum. i could name at least 5 others who have 100th of the knowledge he does.

[wynode]

There is a thread or two in the site discussion forum where I have explained the reasoning behind the PQ points system.

The other option is ti get rid of the green dots and the points so that people aren't too focussed on it.

A quick history (again):
1. People were just signing up to sell things and not contributing to the forum / helping others out
2. We then put a post count restriction. This resulted in people just posting to get their post count up (ie with silly replies)
3. We then introduced a post count and time restriction. This still didn't address the problem of people not contributing / helping others out
4. Hence why the PQ points system was brought in. It basically meant that you had to be a member for a short period of time AND help another user out in return for being able to buy / sell. A small 'price' to pay given that the For sale forum is only for private use.

[krogoth]

I think my knowledge of Honda's far exceeds many on this forum.

but its useless making a helpful post cos its just on deaf ears as myself with no green blocks am not heard as much as others with much less knowledge and many green blocks.

i see some things posted by ppl with many green blocks to be utter bullshit

/end rant

thanks

u call me young and immature

so u mr old, should know that one persons opinion can be hated by some and agreed with by some others

so wen u see something posted that u thought was bs, that doesnt mean every1 else thought it was 2

and if it really was that bad, then u can pm the member or neg rep the post

simple


people like aarong?

wow, wat an intelligent mature response

well done

[95civic]

^^^^^^
As everyone has said, it may not be perfect and it may not work for some people, but until somone comes up with an idea to replace it just get used to this system kids!!!


lol it does work. Your green bar grows depending on the number of points you have.

You have a big green bar :)

[aaronng]

people like aarong?

I don't ask for the points to be given to me. I just try to help out and give info that I know. I have given wrong info and do have the -ve rep as well. I have also been put in my place by JohnL over the suspension debate. Green boxes don't show how smart/knowledgeable a person is. But the bottomline is that people give rep for help that solves their problem and not because you know good info.

I'm sure you know 100x more than me, especially with regards to tuning, ECU, engine, suspension, heck you probably know a lot more on everything than I do. The difference is that I don't take the piss at people who ask stupid and simple questions. I just try to help them to get their car/install running again. That is where I get the points from. I don't do it for the points, I do it because I know the frustration of working in the blind without any help. Just like how I don't like working without basic info or guides, I try to help so that others are not in the same situation.

In fact, it should be called Helpful Points instead of PQ points. :)

[ProECU]

The difference is that I don't take the piss at people who ask stupid and simple questions. I just try to help them to get their car/install running again.

This may be the case - however I can show you a dozen examples where you intentionally provoke and belittle people (me in a few cases) by twisting their words or insinuating a different meaning to what was intended.

you either do it intentionally or just dont have the brains to realise you do it. So which one is it?

[bennjamin]

In fact, it should be called Helpful Points instead of PQ points. :)



Totally agree. Or "happy points".


BTW Evan and others , make points but keep the spam out.

[Dray_Templar]

i feel bad, i have been on here for nearly 2 years and still have tiny green bar.. damnit.. people ask my Q's i can help you with :p

I likes the system.. but seems not much Repping happens any more :s or maybe I just suck

[EuroDude]

I likes the system.. but seems not much Repping happens any more :s or maybe I just suck

True, Ive noticed repping has gone down hill lately as well. I havent received any from Mods for a while, only the occasional user - most of them with no rep points to give :p

[aaronng]

i feel bad, i have been on here for nearly 2 years and still have tiny green bar.. damnit.. people ask my Q's i can help you with :p

I likes the system.. but seems not much Repping happens any more :s or maybe I just suck

I see 2 threads on the first page of the New Posts search that are asking for help/info. Have a look in there.

[wynode]

To the silly people who have tried to give me a PQ point for a post in this thread please cease as it is ONLY for technically related posts.

[ProECU]

There is a thread or two in the site discussion forum where I have explained the reasoning behind the PQ points system.

The other option is ti get rid of the green dots and the points so that people aren't too focussed on it.

A quick history (again):
1. People were just signing up to sell things and not contributing to the forum / helping others out
2. We then put a post count restriction. This resulted in people just posting to get their post count up (ie with silly replies)
3. We then introduced a post count and time restriction. This still didn't address the problem of people not contributing / helping others out
4. Hence why the PQ points system was brought in. It basically meant that you had to be a member for a short period of time AND help another user out in return for being able to buy / sell. A small 'price' to pay given that the For sale forum is only for private use.

ever considered a seperate registration system for the sale thread. That would solve the issue.

[Bludger]

ever considered a seperate registration system for the sale thread. That would solve the issue.the man is onto something.....

[wynode]

ever considered a seperate registration system for the sale thread. That would solve the issue.
Could you elaborate further?

[Bludger]

i think he is saying......

just like you have to register to OzH, you have to register to use the for sale thread.

but who will review the registrations?
how will we decide who is eligible to use the for sale forum.

[aaronng]

i think he is saying......

just like you have to register to OzH, you have to register to use the for sale thread.

but who will review the registrations?
how will we decide who is eligible to use the for sale forum.

Problem is, there won't be anything stopping people from registering on Ozhonda and then registering to use the For Sale section? Also, there won't be a quantifiable criteria for determining who is eligible and who isn't. And if it is left totally to the discretion of the moderators, people will start complaining about unfairness.

[Bludger]

Problem is, there won't be anything stopping people from registering on Ozhonda and then registering to use the For Sale section? Also, there won't be a quantifiable criteria for determining who is eligible and who isn't. And if it is left totally to the discretion of the moderators, people will start complaining about unfairness.always hurdles to jump

[aaronng]

always hurdles to jump

The current system with the 90 days and 1 PQ point works alright. It's just that people turn that PQ point green block thing into some popularity contest, which is silly. It's an internet forum, everyone is an equal. I am equal to you, except that I am not allowed to swear/attack/troll, and also have to clean up the threads where there are swearing/attacking/trolling occuring.... :o

I wonder if there is a way to totally hide those green blocks from view, while keeping the PQ system in place.

[dc2dc2dc2]

i like the idea of hiding green blocks :)

[bennjamin]

i like the idea of hiding green blocks :)

then there would be no point to the system.

If thats the case , EVERYONE should have the chance to earn 1 point ( to sell/become a member) then leave it be. What about that ?

[dc2dc2dc2]

But by doing that. Doesn't it defeat the purpose of having PQ points?
Is there a way for everyone just to have 1 green block. But when you actually hover over, it tells you how many points u have ? ie 1 block and 300 points.

I dunno...green blocks just remind me of 'post count' and how that turned into a competition. Green block gnagsters are going down the same path i believe.

kthxbye

[bennjamin]

good point about "hover" option.

Cant say about the green block gangster thing - its a slow process to build up points compared to those spamming bastards of yester year :D

[dc2dc2dc2]

ok cool ben

thanks for listneing to a brudda

hover option is winner !!!!

[bennjamin]

IF you could b bothered - research around other forums and see if they use a similar single block / hover option to what you say. Im sure a hack out there exists. At the end of the day its a majority vote.

[wynode]

The current system with the 90 days and 1 PQ point works alright. It's just that people turn that PQ point green block thing into some popularity contest, which is silly. It's an internet forum, everyone is an equal. I am equal to you, except that I am not allowed to swear/attack/troll, and also have to clean up the threads where there are swearing/attacking/trolling occuring.... :o

I wonder if there is a way to totally hide those green blocks from view, while keeping the PQ system in place.

Eactly! Hiding the Green blocks is pretty easy. I guess one reason we have them displayed from the start is to get people used to it / spread the word.

You can still see if / how many PQ points you have in your UserCP.

Might go ahead and hide the Green blocks then?!?!

[dc2dc2dc2]

do it wyn !
DOO ITTTT

hide green blocks ftw
good for nothing blocks.

[bennjamin]

Yep i say do it Wyn.

If noobs out there really must know who to believe when it comes to posts - they can look at a persons userCP and rep point count.

[dc2dc2dc2]

hi guys.

so in the persons usercp when u click on their profile
it will sort of come up like 'trade rating'
where it will show why the person got a PQ point?

[Bludger]

progress

[Zilli]

this is completely left field... but i wonder what would be involved in charging to advertise goods.... that would certainly change everyhting... and make some money to maintain the site and compensate mods perhaps.... or co-ordinate OH activities

The focus is not the money, that can be a nominal amount like $5 or something, but that would be one hurdle for people who just want to come on and sell... If the idea of a seperate area of the site is combined with this can be good for the site and the people who put so much effort into it...

[aaronng]

this is completely left field... but i wonder what would be involved in charging to advertise goods.... that would certainly change everyhting... and make some money to maintain the site and compensate mods perhaps.... or co-ordinate OH activities

The focus is not the money, that can be a nominal amount like $5 or something, but that would be one hurdle for people who just want to come on and sell... If the idea of a seperate area of the site is combined with this can be good for the site and the people who put so much effort into it...
Ozhonda is not run for profit. Mods don't get paid and the ramifications of getting paid to mod would be huge (both from a taxation perspective and from the backlash from members who feel that mods are not doing the work that they are being paid for).

[Bludger]

lol

maybe we should pay some "consultants" (lol) to work out a solution to our predicament

[Zilli]

The suggestion was moreso regarding payment to sell... but that in itself will have taxation ramifications...

Was just a suggestion...

[aaronng]

The suggestion was moreso regarding payment to sell... but that in itself will have taxation ramifications...

Was just a suggestion...
Ahhh, if it was with regards with payment to sell, that is already in place. Newcomers can be a trader and are allowed to sell.

[Q_ball]

I think Zillis suggestion was moreso for members who want to sell on our site, but not want to pay trader subscriptions.

[bennjamin]

Not exactly - his query is for those that straight up want to sell goods , be it private or commercial.

But that aint going to happen.

[ProECU]

Eactly! Hiding the Green blocks is pretty easy. I guess one reason we have them displayed from the start is to get people used to it / spread the word.

You can still see if / how many PQ points you have in your UserCP.

Might go ahead and hide the Green blocks then?!?!

For starters it shouldn't be a question of "How Many" it should be a "yes/no qualification" type system that qualifies people to sell in the for sale section
THe how many mentality creates a division amongst this community - mods vs general populus, and populus vs populus etc.

secondly, requests to have an account with selling priveliges should be made with moderators basing their decision on point a) above. A registered account should not have selling privelidges to begin with.

but honestly the ideal solution is to allow anyone to sell on here and just moderate the forum. Who cares if people just join to sell, i'd rather have that than read 90&#37; of the bullshit around here... as it gives members a greater list of items to purchase, thats a win win.

I just dont see why thats a problem

[krogoth]

because it takes away the emphasis from car enthusiast forums

it leaves the possibility of this website revolving around the FS section instead of the rest of the honda enthusiast forums

it makes sense that ther will be less spam and bs going around simply because ppl wont be spamming massive amounts of garbage simply to get their PQ point and jump onto the FS forum

Also, if the FS section isnt restricted to proper members, then the amount of FS threads will triple, making moderating ALOT more difficult

[Bludger]

any progress on this topic?

[wynode]

My comments in bold.


For starters it shouldn't be a question of "How Many" it should be a "yes/no qualification" type system that qualifies people to sell in the for sale section
THe how many mentality creates a division amongst this community - mods vs general populus, and populus vs populus etc.

Agreed. That's why I'm looking at hiding the little green blocks.

secondly, requests to have an account with selling priveliges should be made with moderators basing their decision on point a) above. A registered account should not have selling privelidges to begin with.

This brings up the whole issue of fairness and users will start complaining of biased moderating. Not to mention the fact that moderators will be inundated with requests on top of their already large work load. It is just not feasible.

but honestly the ideal solution is to allow anyone to sell on here and just moderate the forum. Who cares if people just join to sell, i'd rather have that than read 90% of the bullshit around here... as it gives members a greater list of items to purchase, thats a win win.

I just dont see why thats a problem

Then unfortunately you've failed to see one of the main reasons for the forum, and that is for it NOT for it to become a place for people to merely buy/sell things. The main purpose for this forum is for people to help each other out and learn about their Hondas.

[ProECU]

ok

John's at it again. Negative repping when he Clearly knows better
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1553339&postcount=2

Bad rep for that comment, was "there is other ways to do it" (-1 Rep for Bad Grammar, lol) when clearly in later comments in the same thread I've offered alternatives.

Interestingly I received a +rep from another person for the same thread.

This is an obvious case of abuse of position, and I want
a) the rep removed
b) the moderator warned to not abuse the system with an infraction.

I believe an infraction for Misuse of the PQ system is worth 10 points.

[ProECU]

what is going to be done about this?

I noticed you guys have not only left the -rep, but have removed a +rep.

What are you guys up to?

[bennjamin]

who ? where ? Ive been away since the 26th so calm down ill have alook.

[bennjamin]

you refer to this ?

ECU-MAN (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/admincp/user.php?do=edit&u=1329) ProECU (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/admincp/user.php?do=edit&u=2082) 16:21, 27th Feb 2008 -9 there is other ways to do it
If there are other ways to do it , its a justified point. I do hope ECU MAN can reply with examples in that thread , so everyone can learn.

This is not "abuse" of the system. (as was that last complaint)

What +rep was removed ?

[ProECU]

did you actually read the thread with my alternatives?

its NOT a legit -rep and you know it.

Just looking out for your mates arent you

[kazam]

lol bro, u look in2 this way 2 much, green blocks are like a dick, its not the size thats important, its how u use it :p

just chill man. u have 2 greeblocks anyway...

[mr crex]

lol for someone so old evan you act like such a child

[krogoth]

lol for someone so old evan you act like such a child

lol u think this is bad

u shooda seen the stuff that got deleted

[mr crex]

rediculous yeah?

[ProECU]

I really value your opinion Steve

[J_Phongsavan]

i dun get how to become a member!

[bennjamin]

i dun get how to become a member!

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1051473&postcount=2

[Q_ball]

Reply or post only if you have something legitimate or valuable to add to this thread plz ppls :)

[power_of_dreams]

Is there a problem with having "PM me for product X" in signatures?

[aaronng]

Is there a problem with having "PM me for product X" in signatures?

Wrong section. But no, there is no problem with advertising in your signature as long as it is not too big and distracting.

[power_of_dreams]

cool just wanted some clarification. sorry about the wrong section.

[dc2dc2dc2]

not allowed to ask for PQ's
try posting useful info.
and u will get pq

[SiReal]

That is right Tai.

RDX, you haven't really contributed at all to providing useful information to this forum. Have a look at your post history and you will understand.

www.carsales.com.au (http://www.carsales.com.au) is the place to go.

[RtN]

ROFL I've been thinking that i've been given people PQ points.. ._____. didn't know about 100 points before I can give them out! And I have a green box.. I still can't post in for sale thread!

[ECU-MAN]

ROFL I've been thinking that i've been given people PQ points.. ._____. didn't know about 100 points before I can give them out! And I have a green box.. I still can't post in for sale thread!

coz you havnt been a member for long enough

[RtN]

Thanks.. WOW @ all your PQ points lol!

[krogoth]

hey guys, dont think this has been mentioned b4....

is there a way we can find out precisely which posts a user has been given a neg rep point for?

maybe this way, a user with a red box isn't automatically dismissed as a useless spammer? it might add an element of objectivity

say, if u click on the red box, it links u to another page containing more links to all the posts the user has received neg rep for

it doesnt have to show the name of the user who issued the neg rep, just the post, to help ppl decide accordingly if a person with a red box deserves a +ve PQ point or not

just an idea, its prob too complicated on the vb/html programming side of things....

[krogoth]

not infractions ben

neg rep points, maybe im confused....

[bennjamin]

lol we both are. I linked you wrong but you described wrong.

FYI , a person with a red box has -1 or less (more?) reputation points.

You want to know if normal members can view the amount of neg. points they have ? No real point as if someone tries hard enough it doesnt matter how many points they have , they will get a rep ( or - rep)

[dc2dc2dc2]

Ben

I think he is asking
if you can find out why they actually got neg rep for.
As in...what sorta crap they answered to a question.

[bennjamin]

nah afaik only mods can look at such info. the system works with a level of anonymity to keep bias out ( IE if certain people give someone rep , then you might not etc)

[krogoth]

lol ben, thnx for moving

i shooda put it in here to begin with

its just that ive seen lots of users with red boxes, and im a bit unsure as to whether they deserve a +point or not wen they do post something of worth

just thought seeing the posts they got a neg for would help judge wat kind of person they are, and whether the +point is deserved

all im saying, is currently, im very cautious wen giving + to ppl with red boxes, and i cbfed sifting through their previous posts to judge, lol

and yeh, thnx for input will

edit, ah crap, bloody tai, ur avatar confused me, lol

[bennjamin]

good point i understand your perspective.This is the discussion area after all.

Dont let previous mistakes cloud your judgment. If you notice someone is actively trying to be in our discussions or trying to help out ( with CORRECT info) then they by all means deserve a + rep.
If they say one good reppable thing and they haven't been too active before , they can sit on red for all we care.

[krogoth]

oh btw, this only applies to ppl with red boxes

and only to neg points they recieved

and ppl dont get to see who gave out the neg point

[krogoth]

good point i understand your perspective.This is the discussion area after all.

Dont let previous mistakes cloud your judgment. If you notice someone is actively trying to be in our discussions or trying to help out ( with CORRECT info) then they by all means deserve a + rep.
If they say one good reppable thing and they haven't been too active before , they can sit on red for all we care.

yeh fair enough

just that ive seen a fair few ppl with red boxes lately, lol

[dc2dc2dc2]

Also.

I'd like to add is the PQ system still being used as much?
To me the fad of handing out points is over. Hardly anyone hands out anymore everyone seems to be sitting on same amount of blocks as they did 6 months ago. Is everyone over the PQ system?

Also, what ever happend to the idea of hiding them?

[krogoth]

well i still get one evry now and then

and lots of ppl still use it

its just that evry1 is very careful handing them out than ever before

after that interesting incident from last year

[aaronng]

Also.

I'd like to add is the PQ system still being used as much?
To me the fad of handing out points is over. Hardly anyone hands out anymore everyone seems to be sitting on same amount of blocks as they did 6 months ago. Is everyone over the PQ system?

Also, what ever happend to the idea of hiding them?

It is because the people who find the posts helpful are newcomers and they do try to give points. Because of the minimum point limit before you can give actual points, it just turns up as a grey box. But it is still listed in UserCP.

[RtN]

Should be reduced to 50 I reckon haha =]

[wynode]

hey guys, dont think this has been mentioned b4....

is there a way we can find out precisely which posts a user has been given a neg rep point for?

maybe this way, a user with a red box isn't automatically dismissed as a useless spammer? it might add an element of objectivity

say, if u click on the red box, it links u to another page containing more links to all the posts the user has received neg rep for

it doesnt have to show the name of the user who issued the neg rep, just the post, to help ppl decide accordingly if a person with a red box deserves a +ve PQ point or not

just an idea, its prob too complicated on the vb/html programming side of things....

I see what you mean but unfortunately it's not possible. Ben makes a good point that you should treat each post based on merit (and not on the users past comments).



Also.

I'd like to add is the PQ system still being used as much?
To me the fad of handing out points is over. Hardly anyone hands out anymore everyone seems to be sitting on same amount of blocks as they did 6 months ago. Is everyone over the PQ system?

Also, what ever happend to the idea of hiding them?

It is still being used. It's just harder for a user to become a member / hand out points now because of the clowns that abused the system awhile back.

The hiding of the blocks is on my to do list. Just haven't had any weekends free of late.

[panda[cRx]]

It is still being used. It's just harder for a user to become a member / hand out points now because of the clowns that abused the system awhile back.

it certainly doesnt appear to be used as much?

[bennjamin]

comment based on ? From what ive browsed in the stats its still used as much as ever. Not just the usual suspects but.

[dsp26]

actually is there a way to highlight a post if its been neg repped?

for example with the posts above theres this darker blue line.. maybe a red colour and the reason for neg rep?

i know i don't wanna be liable for wrong info i've given thats been corrected...

***EDIT***
or posts that are neg repped get hidden, i'm not sure if vB has the function but certain Naruto/Bleach sites i've noticed have this "Spoiler" button... you have to press it to reveal a post.

a neg repped post would be automatically hidden, but in case anyone wants to read it they can unhide it?

[wynode]

actually is there a way to highlight a post if its been neg repped?

for example with the posts above theres this darker blue line.. maybe a red colour and the reason for neg rep?

i know i don't wanna be liable for wrong info i've given thats been corrected...

***EDIT***
or posts that are neg repped get hidden, i'm not sure if vB has the function but certain Naruto/Bleach sites i've noticed have this "Spoiler" button... you have to press it to reveal a post.

a neg repped post would be automatically hidden, but in case anyone wants to read it they can unhide it?
^ Nope. Not a feature of vBulletin and if it was we probably wouldn't implement it either. Sorry.

[aramiK]

actually is there a way to highlight a post if its been neg repped?

for example with the posts above theres this darker blue line.. maybe a red colour and the reason for neg rep?

i know i don't wanna be liable for wrong info i've given thats been corrected...

***EDIT***
or posts that are neg repped get hidden, i'm not sure if vB has the function but certain Naruto/Bleach sites i've noticed have this "Spoiler" button... you have to press it to reveal a post.

a neg repped post would be automatically hidden, but in case anyone wants to read it they can unhide it?
That's just a code like [quote] that hides certain text - vb doesn't have any plugin to auto do that on neg post - and if it did... everyone would just give negs on posts they didn't want showing. - what difference, if post is that bad - mod will delete.

Really wish I could post in parts for sale section though >_< no damn points.

heh.

[Bludger]

That's just a code like [quote] that hides certain text - vb doesn't have any plugin to auto do that on neg post - and if it did... everyone would just give negs on posts they didn't want showing. - what difference, if post is that bad - mod will delete.

Really wish I could post in parts for sale section though >_< no damn points.

heh.try to be helpful 1st :)

[ek4-guy]

it's a bit hard to helpfull when the majority of posts these days are spam

[aaronng]

it's a bit hard to helpfull when the majority of posts these days are spam

That is why I tend to stay in the model and technical sections rather than the lounge when I am doing my daily ozhonda reading. I only go into the lounge to do thread/post cleaning. :)

[krogoth]

it's a bit hard to helpfull when the majority of posts in the lounge these days are spam

fixed

[ek4-guy]

You are right about the majority being in the lounge but it's the spamming in serious threads wich bothers me

Half the time i can't be botherd sifting through the spam in other sections to see if the advice sort has been given a reply

The other day aarong deleated a post that i reported because i got so sick of it, by the way thank you for that

[aramiK]

Are members actually still able to rep posts if over 100? Or is it just moderators now?

[aaronng]

Are members actually still able to rep posts if over 100? Or is it just moderators now?

Anyone can rep.

[mikey1717]

i still cant post =/

[destrukshn]

i still cant post =/
you just did?
lol.

[bennjamin]

he means in the For sale section. Why ? Because you are a newcomer , Mikey1717.

Try and help out with links or relevant info around the forum and soon enough you will be able to sell. Actually how about this , if you are keen to sell leave this forum and pay the trading post to sell it :)

[dsp26]

I found a tech bug in the PQ system...

- pressed the button
- left good comment
- retarded me forgot to pick an option
- pressed OK
- Got message "Thanks for adding to this users reputation..."

But it defaults to a neg rep....

On a side note, could a mod please fix the neg rep i gave this fellow.. i feel bad, was supposed to be +pq:
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1649458&postcount=16

Thanks :D

[aaronng]

I found a tech bug in the PQ system...

- pressed the button
- left good comment
- retarded me forgot to pick an option
- pressed OK
- Got message "Thanks for adding to this users reputation..."

But it defaults to a neg rep....

On a side note, could a mod please fix the neg rep i gave this fellow.. i feel bad, was supposed to be +pq:
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1649458&postcount=16

Thanks :D

Noted.

[aaronng]

Why does yours default to neg rep?????? Just click on rep button and you can see for yourself that is is default in POS rep if you don't do anything other than click and apply it will be positive rep to get neg rep the user has to POSITIVELY change to neg rep NOT DEFAULT??????
He might be using a weird browser...

[dsp26]

sorted fellas.. it does default to positive...

but it seems my timeout issues with my ISP caused it...

when i clicked the rep post, out of habit i usually just press OK expecting the default on positive.. from memory it didn't actually have anything selected when i pressed OK...

refreshed to try it again and said i already repped it...

ignore me.. i'm n00b :p

[Lukey]

I got 2 rep points in my UserCP, I'm confused.

[chunky]

it means you made some good posts
and someone repped you for thhem
see the icon next to the green (online) circle
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
eventually after how many posts your block will turn green for making more good posts
every 100 points you get will be worth 1 green block
as you will see some people and mods have like 12 green blocks
'green block gangsters' we call them
so start repping people and people will rep you for your posts
:wave:

[Lukey]

How many do you need to become 'Member' status?

[aaronng]

How many do you need to become 'Member' status?

1 point.

[mars_panas]

I am still noob still dont get how this system works after reading several times lol...

oh wells

[Q_ball]

^ Some ppl never will :)

[mars_panas]

i kinda get it... but don't know how to check how many points i have i srolled down and i see nothing la

[Q_ball]

i kinda get it... but don't know how to check how many points i have i srolled down and i see nothing la
If theres nothing listed in ur User CP, then that means you have not received ANY reps of any kind.

Simple :)

[mars_panas]

ohh... so thats how it works..

cheers

Q_BALL

[chunky]

here omg
its right there
or maybe you have the box collapsed
so click that arrow to expand it
or maybe you have no points at all
which you probably do because your block is still grey
if you want member status get a green block (1 point or more) and retain it for a certain period
i forgot, i think 90 days

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1251/repew4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1251/repew4.c31216d118.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=137&i=repew4.jpg)

thank you for that beautiful infraction Qball
:p

[mars_panas]

Ok... thanks chunky for making me understand how it works and where i should look at to see if i have points :p

[krogoth]

here omg
its right there
or maybe you have the box collapsed
so click that arrow to expand it
or maybe you have no points at all
which you probably do because your block is still grey
if you want member status get a green block (1 point or more) and retain it for a certain period
i forgot, i think 90 days

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1251/repew4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1251/repew4.c31216d118.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=137&i=repew4.jpg)

thank you for that beautiful infraction Qball
:p

rofl

infractions galore, lololol

and look at all those neg reps, lol

some of them arent really appropriate, like, ther should be an infraction for spam rather than a neg rep, lol

[chunky]

yea the spam crew was trying to get me to red
lol they were finding any crap post of mine to neg rep

[aaronng]

yea the spam crew was trying to get me to red
lol they were finding any crap post of mine to neg rep

If you feel it is not justified, link a mod to the post that you got the neg rep for. Seriously.

[bennjamin]

Exactly.

If anyone here feels unfairly "repped" (positive or negative) please pm a moderator to work it out.

[Bludger]

spam in tech thread = justified

lol

DNT-CRY chukny

[Lukey]

I got 2 points ( i think )

http://i31.tinypic.com/15dkk2g.png

[Bludger]

you have 0 points, it says right there

because the ppl that rep you don't have enough points themselves to give you points....

[Lukey]

you have 0 points, it says right there

because the ppl that rep you don't have enough points themselves to give you points....

Ok, thanks for clearing that up.

[SXCHUH]

Hi Wynode,

I have submitted quite a few posts now and still not gained member access. Can you please let me know why? or what else I need to do.

Thanks

Dale

[dc2dc2dc2]

Post something helpful :)
I just looked at ur posts u have only made 4 posts including this one.

[kazam]

wow a member for almost 2 years and only 4 posts :confused: post useful stuff bro loll or otherwise link us to those 'queit a few posts' that u have made..

[tommmoe]

ok let me get this straight, i have some rep yeah.. does that mean i have to wait 90 days before getting member status?

[Bludger]

I think you get member status when
1 - you have some, (more than 1) rep point
2 - have been longer than 90 days
3 - can't post for sale till you have more than 100???

plz correct me

[tRipitaka]

to get member status, all you need is 1 rep point from someone who has more than 100points, i.e. someone with two green blocks

oh and 90days too

once you're a member, you can post stuff up for sale.

[dc2dc2dc2]

you are way beyond the 90 days member status
u have no reps brudda
no green block = no reps

[kazam]

one thing that confuses me is that wen it shows my last reputation received, it only shows the last 5 that i have gottem is this a new feature? before it used to show more than 5, and wen sum1 has more greenblocks themselves and they rep u is this worth more than sum1 elses rep? e.g. benn gave me rep, i got 10 poitns for it , dc2dc2dc2 gave me rep and i got 4 points for it mr willz gave me 4 points to, is ben like a super forumer?...

[chunky]

the more green blocks you have the more points you are worth

[kazam]

ty chunky, wat about the last 5 rep points only being shown? any insight on that?

[aaronng]

ty chunky, wat about the last 5 rep points only being shown? any insight on that?

It's meant to be that way. I also only get to see the last 5 rep given to me.

[kazam]

oh, but it's only recently changed to this method has it not?

[chunky]

it used to be diff
it used to show all of the points you received
and then one day wyn did an update and only 5 were shown from then on

[wynode]

Yeah I dropped it to 5 awhile back so that people don't get too caught up on it.

[jcz]

sorry guys ... was just wondering. i've been here for more than 90 days so far but still have not gotten any rep pts. how does this system actually work as i think i read it correctly saying that i would be a member after the 90 day period. :)

[tRipitaka]

sorry guys ... was just wondering. i've been here for more than 90 days so far but still have not gotten any rep pts. how does this system actually work as i think i read it correctly saying that i would be a member after the 90 day period. :)

u read it half correctly..
you need to receive a rep point from a member who has over 100 rep points (green block).. and be on ozhonda for over 90days..

[Q_ball]

In other words, you need to contribute more valuable information/help to the forums.

Since Nov 2006, youve made 26 noted posts.
LIFT YOUR GAME! :)

[Bludger]

In other words, you need to contribute more valuable information/help to the forums.

Since Nov 2006, youve made 26 noted posts.
LIFT YOUR GAME! :)don't say that mrQ

he'll just spam more

lmao

He needs to post more valuable information that is helpful to others.
He will receive rep points if other members think that the information is helpful.

[dsp26]

How many PQ do I have to "Spread around" before I can give to the same person?

Wanted to give PQ to someone but can't... but I noticed this person has given me 3 in a relatively short timeframe...

I know it has to be regulated but some people do post some real good info and i kinda feel bad that i can't rep them for an even better post then i previously repped them for....

[wynode]

Unfortunately it's to stop people from abusing the sytem (they have done it in the past).

[kazam]

so the answer to his question was wat?

[bennjamin]

How many PQ do I have to "Spread around" before I can give to the same person?




Wyn - answer - i dont know :)

[wynode]

My bad missed that Question.

Answer is you have to give it to 15 different users before you can re-give it to the same user.

[Bludger]

hi bro

can you give me a REP?

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93525


CHEERS


no need to do like this?




can you delete the reply?

thats not really necessary.

thx






no need to do like this?no need to ask for rep

loser

why you so hung up on rep points.

trying to be popular?

ffs

some ppl

no need to be so pushy mate. take it easy.

pls delete that reply.

thxi wasn't the one asking for rep points

you get rep points when you deserve them, not when you ask for them


advice taken.thx for the remind.

could you pls delete the reply.

i would never do that again/

thx


you seems get more excited about it?

lets leave the topic clean and deal it via PM.

I already taken your advice.


i already taken your advice.

Please delete the post as its irrelevant to the topic.

i kept in mind already

cheers

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93525

[Bludger]

it is a very annoying thing

being pm'ed asking to be repped

these ppl should receive infractions?

[Chi]

He has pm'd me previously in the past for rep points as well.

I have another complaint in regards to kongfu.

He is constantly spamming the forums with incorrect advice in the technical threads in order to gain rep points.

Even when he has been told he is wrong time and time again.

[Bludger]

he got owned so hard

but everything got deleted:(

and threats hes gonna beat me up too

@ upcoming meet
lol

[Chi]

he got owned so hard

but everything got deleted:(

and threats hes gonna beat me up too

@ upcoming meet
lol


He wants me to come to melb so he can beat me up as well lol lol lol :thumbdwn:

Ban this guy already !!!

[aaronng]

He wants me to come to melb so he can beat me up as well lol lol lol :thumbdwn:

Ban this guy already !!!

Send that PM to a mod, and it might happen.

[Bludger]

Send that PM to a mod, and it might happen.well, the personal attacks and threats of a punch on are openly viewable here (starting from post # 173, i know i sent the 1st msg, but the 1st personal attack came from him) also sorry for it to continue here

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93311&page=5

[aaronng]

well, the personal attacks and threats of a punch on are openly viewable here (starting from post # 173, i know i sent the 1st msg, but the 1st personal attack came from him) also sorry for it to continue here

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93311&page=5

Just deleted those posts. In the future, calling him names will surely incite him. So just ignore his PMs. I usually go "I was going to give you rep, but then I read your PM/post asking for rep so I decided not to". Always works. :)

[Bludger]

its hard to ignore 14 pm's

if i wasn't supporter, it would be half my inbox....

[aaronng]

its hard to ignore 14 pm's

if i wasn't supporter, it would be half my inbox....
Or delete it without reading? hehehehe.. You have that luxury. I don't. :p

[kongfu]

He has pm'd me previously in the past for rep points as well.

I have another complaint in regards to kongfu.

He is constantly spamming the forums with incorrect advice in the technical threads in order to gain rep points.

Even when he has been told he is wrong time and time again.

I never PM you :thumbdwn: You are RSX 03's mate so take it easy no need to be enermy:thumbdwn: