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Paul1985
05-11-2005, 01:48 AM
I plan on doing an Integra Brake upgrade on an EG in the near future.
Just wondering what the stud patterns of each are Integra model/year are? Dont worry about including the ITR as i dont plan on going 5-lug, too expensive.

Just wondering which are 4x100 and 4x114.3????

Thanks.

aus91integra
05-11-2005, 10:24 AM
DA DC are 4x100 not sure on offset, Prelude is 114.3

iamhappy46
05-11-2005, 03:44 PM
I got DA9 Integra front hub, calipers, pads & rotors on my ED. Nice and easy swap...

I believe all Integra's have a 4x100 stud pattern, even the DC2 Type R's(which have a larger rotor)

wynode
05-11-2005, 03:47 PM
JDM ITR 96 spec is different though

SiR JDM
05-11-2005, 07:09 PM
I got DA9 Integra front hub, calipers, pads & rotors on my ED. Nice and easy swap...

I believe all Integra's have a 4x100 stud pattern, even the DC2 Type R's(which have a larger rotor)

The dc2r's have a 114.3 x 4 as with the dc5rs.
But this wont help paul much as hes not after it.

Paul just a word of advice, your planning on buyin an EG6 1/2 cut, the EG6 and DC2 are the same brakes :)

Also, if can be bothered with the hassle, prelude brakes are great option too. PM me and ill tell you a bit bout it if you want that as an option.

vinhy
05-11-2005, 11:29 PM
The dc2r's have a 114.3 x 4 as with the dc5rs.

i think u mean 114.3 x 5 except for the 96' spec which is 114.3 x 4

u can try prelude rotors with legend 2 piston capliers

SiR JDM
06-11-2005, 03:19 AM
i think u mean 114.3 x 5 except for the 96' spec which is 114.3 x 4

u can try prelude rotors with legend 2 piston capliers

Yea i ment except for the 96 spec ones, but because it was already mentioned in the previous post I didn't want to repeat, but yea your right :)

The legend calipers are said to be the same as the NSX ones (correct?) but usually alot cheaper. Remember tho Paul, if your looking at anything like this, your stockies wont cut it :p you'll prob need some atleast 15"s (depending which setup you go) to clear the calipers =) . And its not always bolt on, brackets will in most cases need to be shaved down for fitting/clearance issues and possibly customized. AND, you will need to source a new master cylinder (assuming this will be going on your breeze) and adjust it to the new brake setup.


If your just after a brake upgrade from say a breeze as you mentioned you'll be getting, EG6/DC2 will definatly definatly be suffice :)

vinhy
06-11-2005, 11:29 AM
the legend calipers are similar to the nsx ones difference is that the nsx ones are aluminum. legend calipers r 2mm larger than the nsx which means more clamping. yes u would need at least 15's.

Paul1985
06-11-2005, 11:34 AM
ill most definately be going with the DC2 option. With the integra calipers, i shouldnt have any issues should i?

ill be running most likely 15" rims, maybe 16"

Ill probably pick up a set of brakes from the wreckers off a gsi or something similar

From my research heres what i'll need:
* DC2 Complete Knuckle Arms
* DC2 Complete Rear Trailing Arm
* DC2 Brake Booster
* DC2 (98+) 1" Master Cylinder
* SS Brake Lines (maybe)
* DC2 Handbrake Cables
* DC2 (94/95 i think) NON-ABS Proportioning Valves
* New Brake Pads
* New Brake Fluid

Is that about it?
And am i right that all 98+ DC2's come with the 1" MC and that the 94/95 DC2's came with the NON-ABS Prop Valves??

SiR JDM
07-11-2005, 08:43 AM
From my research heres what i'll need:
* DC2 Complete Knuckle Arms
* DC2 Complete Rear Trailing Arm
* DC2 Brake Booster
* DC2 (98+) 1" Master Cylinder
* SS Brake Lines (maybe)
* DC2 Handbrake Cables
* DC2 (94/95 i think) NON-ABS Proportioning Valves
* New Brake Pads
* New Brake Fluid

Is that about it?
And am i right that all 98+ DC2's come with the 1" MC and that the 94/95 DC2's came with the NON-ABS Prop Valves??

Depending what model EG your putting this in Paul. If your still going with the breeze then you dont NEED a dc2 booster and master cylinder specifically. An EG SI/VTi one would be suffice as well from my experience (i went through all this on my old breeze). Ive seen my mech do rear disc conversion on a breeze and he didn't change the MC or Booster, just adjusted piston in the MC to generate more hyrdolic pressure for the rear discs.

As my mechanic did this, and he has been a honda specialist for 25+ years, works specifically on Hondas and alot of other Ozhonda members go to him (thats how i met 1/2 of them :p ) id asume he knows whats best but, id still say using a MC designed for the brake system it will be used on is best. It would have been upto the customer as well as he had done a b18c (that needed alot of custom work done to get it up and running) so im not sure if he didn't have the cash to do an MC upgrade or what. Id like to play it safe and do the MC upgrade anyway. It would be easier to find a EG Vti/Si MC and booster than a dc2 id think and probably cheaper.

You've pretty much covered everything in that list paul, good research. If your doin a full 4 disc upgrade from the teg then yea you'd definatly need the knuckles hubs and discs and rotors of course. For the rears Rear, Brake lines, handbreak cable, trailing arms are a must as well. Refluiding the system is definatly a good idea and a necessity. The pads are a good idea but depending on the meat left on them when you buy the setup its not *MUST*, but if you have the money its a good idea.

Another thing id recommend paul is before you install it get all the rotors machined =)

EGB16A
07-11-2005, 01:48 PM
i'm changing to a prelude master cylinder very soon apparently they r better for braking

SiR JDM
07-11-2005, 01:54 PM
Whats your setup EGB16A? What brake setup are you using?

I know my friend put prelude calipers on his gen2 CRX n upgraded his MC to the prelude one as well. HUGE difference. :thumbsup:

barefootbonzai
07-11-2005, 04:06 PM
I've been advised not to place a master cylinder from a car with ABS to a car without ABS. Thus not a good idea to use a 98 DC2 master cylinder in your EG unless it has ABS.

EGB16A
07-11-2005, 07:39 PM
Whats your setup EGB16A? What brake setup are you using?

I know my friend put prelude calipers on his gen2 CRX n upgraded his MC to the prelude one as well. HUGE difference. :thumbsup:

delslo calipers, xdrilled/slotted rotors front and rear, by next week i should have the lude MC and custom braded lines in too

i'll probably chuck in a MC brace for good measure.

i'll keep u guys posted, if anyone is interested

Paul1985
07-11-2005, 10:56 PM
I've been advised not to place a master cylinder from a car with ABS to a car without ABS. Thus not a good idea to use a 98 DC2 master cylinder in your EG unless it has ABS.

hmm interesting. Im gonna need to look into this...
Any 98+ teg's come with a 1" MC that dont have ABS?

I need to know because the EG definately doesnt have ABS.. All the US guys are using 1" MC's on their EG's.. i'll do some searching unless someone can help fill me in with some details?

btw, to further on what u said James.. you can upgrade to the better civic MC at 15th/16th which would be a clear improvement (the stock one will be 13th/16th)... but the 1" will be heaps better and ive from my research ive found its a really good idea to upgrade to the 1" over the 15/16...

I wanna get everything right the first time around.