engine noise engine oil

[bradb16a]

Last night did an oil change and now my car is making shit loads of noise the tappets I think when it goes above 3500rpm what the deal.
Do I have to use thicker oil ???
The Oil in question castrol formula R synthetic 10w/60
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[ATSE]

How many km's your engine done? How long since you last adjusted the tappets? Is this the first time you've used this oil? If anything, after an oil change the engine should be quieter.

[bradb16a]

first time with oil that oil ??? it cost my $65
first oil change with this engine B16a Just put it in my crx had aboutr 75km on it

[smoknhothonda]

Did you forget to put the oil cap on?

How much oil did you put in???

If you put too much oil in it can cause that problem. Your civic should only take 4L, not the full 5L container of the 10W-60.

I havent used the 10W-60 myself, but I have been told that the car takes a while longer to warm up....

[bradb16a]

it's about 2mm above the full mark

[Bludger]

i use that oil and my car is fine
i got b18c7

[kayot1k]

10 - 60 WTF..

i was under the impression b16,b18 were all running 5/10-30w.
cus anything higher was too thick comprimising power and economy

[Bludger]

thick = engine protection

[fatboyz39]

I think you should change your oil to OEM honda one its 10/30w.

[Samo]

thick = engine protection

not in all cases .. only in older cars
if its too thick it cant get into places like between main bearings giving u no protection !

[iamhappy46]

Check your service manual for the correct oil viscosity to use. That oil is much too thick for your car and offers bugger all cold start protection. 10w60 is something you would use in Saudi Arabia not in a hi-rev Honda.

Castrol Formula R Synthetic comes in 5w30 which is what you should have used. Change the oil quick smart before you mince your engine internals. Paying $65 for another bottle of oil will be better than an engine rebuild.

[revNhevN]

i just put in 10-50 oil is this too thick for a b16a?

[dundas]

i used a thicker oil in my car and im never ever doing that again unless my engine really requires it. genuine honda oil unless ur car is boosted.
I have majorly damaged my engine and its sounds shit now. engine replacement is required.

[iamhappy46]

Consider it this way: Honda in all there infinite wisdom worked out which oil rating they would use, built an engine around that principle and used bearings to suit this viscosity but you somehow figured using a thicker oil will offer better protection??


revNhevN: Use the factory service manual recommended oils or consult your engine builder if you had it rebuilt. I think 10w 50 should be ok tho.

[civiceg9]

You need to maintain a flow of oil in all temperature range, oil viscosity also affects the oil pressure. too high oil velocity is not always the best.

30w good for new gen cars, good oil if you want some instant power.
40w good for high kms or pre 2000 cars.
50w good for turbo, older (worn), high kms car or high stressed engine (eg freeway, racing, etc)

60+ anything higher are extreme circumstances, always high rev, engine runs in high temp. eg racing, turbo.

You need ask yourself a few questions before choosing oil
1) What condition is the engine operating, daily city, long trips, racing.
2) Is the engine normally aspirated, turbocharged or supercharged?
3) Is there an oxidizer such as nitrous oxide or propylene oxide present?
4) How long will the engine be running and if racing, what is the duration?

Is just my 2cent, in most circumstance I would only increase 10w for an older car. but on my 10yr car I use 0-40w max, and add a bottle of Nulon additive as most of time I do daily driving. my other 20yr old car I use just 15w-40w or 20w-50.

Anyone can add or correct my knowledge :wave:

[kayot1k]

lol dont you ever play with that lucas apparatus with the oil in it running around the cogz at supercheap whilst your bored ?

[Flanderz]

Ok, So I got conned buy the autobarn guy to get Castrol Formular R 25W-50 should this be pretty good for my B18A, 220ks on engine and just had a head service and new head gasket done??? it says on the bottle, for older engines or big bore street machines???

[civiceg9]

Autobarn, hehe :D once the oil heats up on your car it should work fine.
see if you can get anything from 15w-50w, or 20w-50w next time.
25w is very high cold oil viscosity, you want you oil to start flowing when the key start
Mobil 1 and Shell Helix Plus have those range.

[smoknhothonda]

You need to maintain a flow of oil in all temperature range, oil viscosity also affects the oil pressure. too high oil velocity is not always the best.

30w good for new gen cars, good oil if you want some instant power.
40w good for high kms or pre 2000 cars.
50w good for turbo, older (worn), high kms car or high stressed engine (eg freeway, racing, etc)

60+ anything higher are extreme circumstances, always high rev, engine runs in high temp. eg racing, turbo.

You need ask yourself a few questions before choosing oil
1) What condition is the engine operating, daily city, long trips, racing.
2) Is the engine normally aspirated, turbocharged or supercharged?
3) Is there an oxidizer such as nitrous oxide or propylene oxide present?
4) How long will the engine be running and if racing, what is the duration?

Is just my 2cent, in most circumstance I would only increase 10w for an older car. but on my 10yr car I use 0-40w max, and add a bottle of Nulon additive as most of time I do daily driving. my other 20yr old car I use just 15w-40w or 20w-50.

Anyone can add or correct my knowledge :wave:

Your right on the money in my opinion.

10W-60 is only required for engines under extreme stresses, like prolonged revving (racing) or for engine putting out a great deal more HP then standard.

This grade of oil is definately not reccomended for a daily driver, with a civic with an exhaust and induction mods.

You will notice less fuel consumption and a better idle with a 5W-30 or 0w-40 synthetic oil for a daily user honda.

[aaronng]

Usually, I follow 1 grade more viscous for hot climates, and 2 grades more viscous for older engines. So in the case of the B16, it would be 10w40 for hot summer and 10/15w-50 for old engines. 10w-60 could have been too viscous. You could try draining the oil and refilling with a 10w40 or even Castrol's 0w-40 (you won't reach SAE0 because it won't hit 0 degrees C in summer here). You can keep the 10w60 oil for later use and as far as I know for Castrol Formula R, you can mix it as long as it is with a synthetic. (Particular oils like Motul 300V of a certain viscosity cannot be mixed. It's stated on the label). So you might be able to get away with mixing it with Formula R 5w-30.

[h22a jdm]

So wat oil should i use on my 5th gen prelude vtir stock

[civiceg9]

Honda recommands SAE 10-30w SJ
so for older cars or cars that want more protections a one step up in viscosity should be fine.

[ECU-MAN]

I think you should change your oil to OEM honda one its 10/30w.

Im with you on this one fatboy