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sabih
13-11-2005, 10:58 PM
Hi guys,

Sorry, im new to this forum so i hope this isn't a too stupid question

I', looking at buying a CIVIC VTi Coupe (around 97/98'). I know these cars are only 1.6lt engines. I currently have a BMW 318is 1.9ltr (twin cam) and wondering performance wise how the two would compare.

I have previously had an 1988 Honda Accord and a 1989 Honda Prelude. I really like Honda's in general but dont know a thing about civics.

I have a mate whos a member on here actually who has a Civic Type R.. I need a few knowledgable opinions on the civic in general more so the 1997/98 coupe


Any info would be very welcomed!

Thanks.

J-MuN
13-11-2005, 11:11 PM
Welcome mate. The Civic VTi coupes are:


Civic Vti
Released: 1993-2000
Engine1: '93-94 1.6L SOHC VTEC 16-valve 96kW@6,800rpm
Engine2: '95-00 1.6L SOHC 16-valve 88kW
Code1: D16Y1, (D16Y8-VTi Coupe)
Code2: D16Y5
Weight: Sedan-1060kg Coupe-1029kg
Brakes: 4 wheel disc brakes (vti coupe has rear drums)
Features: Power windows + mirrors, drivers airbag, sunroof
Models: 4 door sedan, 3 door hatch or 2 door coupe.
You can't really compare it to the Civic VTi-R in terms of performance. The engine is generally designed to be more fuel efficient.

If you need any more info try searching or using this link for information on Civic's in general. CLICK HERE!! (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30977)

taizon
13-11-2005, 11:35 PM
if u are talkin about performance wise..

the civic vti coupe 1.6L will be better in performance compared to the 1.9L bmw
the bmw is just too heavy!!

00' coupe
14-11-2005, 12:28 AM
VTi coupes only came out till 1998... 99 and 00 coupes are either VTiR or GLi

Vti coupe should have the performance over the 318 bmw tho...

sabih
14-11-2005, 08:17 AM
I am also looking at 2003 HONDA CIVIC 7th Gen. MY2003 GLi

Im more so looking for good fuel economy as my main concern at the moment.. as i drive around 30,000km's a year with a combination of freeway and city driving.

Is this a nice car to drive.. comfortable, reliable, and most importantly, aftermarket upgradeable?

dudeling7
14-11-2005, 08:46 AM
I have a civic coupe vti and i would say its got reasonable power, i mean for a 1.6ltr engine it will outrun many other 1.6ltr - 2.0 NA cars. Fuel economy is great, i get over 400km a tank and when highway driving its even better. Most aftermarket support will be for the B series engines but d series does have a fair bit out there too.

KB
14-11-2005, 07:49 PM
I get 600kms to a tank.

vtecchie
14-11-2005, 08:49 PM
Is this a nice car to drive.. comfortable, reliable, and most importantly, aftermarket upgradeable?

I have had a 97 coupe for a bit over 3 years. For what it sounds like you are asking for in a car, I think it would be a fantastic choice. The only thing that has ever gone wrong with my car is that the passenger window broke once. Took it in and got fixed next day no prob.

They are very well put together, it doesnt even drip oil like my parents' younger and more expensive cars always do. No squeaks or anything.

They are fuel efficient (I usually get a bit over 500kms, less than 7L/100km) and have a bit of go for a 1.6L. They are fun to drive overall, nice to rev, good handling. Its a high performance to economy car I would say.

You seriously can't go wrong :thumbsup:

sabih
14-11-2005, 10:40 PM
What about a 1995 HONDA CIVIC GLi (hatch)?

I've heard they arent too bad.. and i've seen them done up and they look pretty good.

Money isn't really an option here, i'm just looking for the best base model looking car i can modify over time.


The one good one of these i found has roof racks though.. would this be hard to fill the gaps in the roof it would leave after removing them?

Bewlow is a picture of the type of car in question.. THE CAR IN THIS PICTURE IS NOT THE ACTUAL CAR THOUGH.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid172/p1da23dd5c42f8fa284f70633e2d8b371/f3ced498.jpg

sabih
14-11-2005, 10:57 PM
Not sure which type of Civic i should get..

I've narrowed it down to these few types.. i would greatly appreicate peoples opinions and why they have chosen each car.

These are just example pictures of the cars in question.. not the actual cars..

I'm looking for economy, customization, style, and ofcourse power.. and yes.. i know one of these has a vti engine.

1. 1995 HONDA CIVIC GLi

http://images.carsales.com.au/private/783193.jpg


2. 2002 HONDA CIVIC 7th Gen. MY2002 GLi

http://images.carsales.com.au/private/915416.jpg



3. 1996 HONDA CIVIC VTi

http://images.carsales.com.au/private/906582.jpg


4. 1999 HONDA CIVIC EK GLi

http://images.carsales.com.au/private/863302.jpg

-MuGen PoWer-
14-11-2005, 11:07 PM
i'l choose a VTI coupe because of the shape
but that EG hatch looks pretty good in the picture

J-MuN
14-11-2005, 11:13 PM
Yeah, I'd agree with mugen power. The EJ8 (Civic Coupe VTi) has a nicer shape than majority but the EK Sedan is a more practical choice. 4 Doors = more room.

R96P-EJ8
15-11-2005, 07:33 AM
Money isn't really an option here, i'm just looking for the best base model looking car i can modify over time.



Why not just get a VTi-R? You can get the EM1 (99-00) Civic Coupe VTi-R of if you like hatches, there's the 96-98 VTi-R hatch. But of course I'd prefer the coupes ;)

8100rpm
15-11-2005, 09:12 AM
yeah if money is not an issue 4 u why not get the vtir coupe? it is top of the civic breed in oz

MrJDMCivic
15-11-2005, 09:45 AM
the civic would woop the ass of a bmw.. unless its a m3.. cause my ed civic d15b vtec useto chop my x gf 318i something silly... i actually had to not give it to much so the race would look like she had a chance..

DomenEK
15-11-2005, 10:11 AM
Hi guys,

Sorry, im new to this forum so i hope this isn't a too stupid question

I', looking at buying a CIVIC VTi Coupe (around 97/98'). I know these cars are only 1.6lt engines. I currently have a BMW 318is 1.9ltr (twin cam) and wondering performance wise how the two would compare.

I have previously had an 1988 Honda Accord and a 1989 Honda Prelude. I really like Honda's in general but dont know a thing about civics.

I have a mate whos a member on here actually who has a Civic Type R.. I need a few knowledgable opinions on the civic in general more so the 1997/98 coupe


Any info would be very welcomed!

Thanks.


Hey mate,

I was very close to buying a 1.9L: twin cam 318is coupe about 6 months ago. I have a '96 civic sedan, and a mate has a '97 civic vti coupe, which I have driven several times.

I found that the BMW, while it is a nice car to drive, didn't have as much poke up high as the civics, and didn't seem to respond quite as nice. The engine was smooth, but I think it was more designed for cruising. I ended up keeping the civic for several reasons:

- The civic didn't handle quite as nice, but had a better engine (IMO)
- The civic had much much better build quality
- The BMW wasn't a six, and if I were to spend money buying a BMW coupe,
it'd have to be a six cylinder.
- The civic loves to rev, and so do I. It sounded and felt much smoother at
7000rpm than the BMW did at 5500.
- The civic uses less fuel, is cheaper to insure and cheaper to run.

8100rpm
15-11-2005, 10:33 AM
i think bmw is only good for 6cyl onward