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RiP CITA :~(
17-03-2004, 04:53 PM
which would be faster? i mean stock!

McChook
17-03-2004, 04:55 PM
Prelude is.
Is faster all around too, slightly. Modified however, the integra with nice suspension is deadly...

Rowie
17-03-2004, 05:00 PM
Integra IMO :P

Do you mean which has more power? or which is quicker on the road?

McChook
17-03-2004, 05:04 PM
No, prelude IS Rowie. No opinions here, it just is. Fact of life... lol

Prelude is still quicker on the road. A stock Integra VtiR is not faster anywhere than the prelude. Was something I made sure of when I bought the car, first day I had the car, I was running a 'teg, and it wasn;t faster. In the twisties or in a straight line.

Rowie
17-03-2004, 05:08 PM
Does that include GSi's? :P

McChook
17-03-2004, 05:12 PM
Yes, But Jon's in an ongoing drama. And his car isn;t standard with standard tyres....

Rowie
17-03-2004, 05:14 PM
I was joking man

Your right, its just standard with stock Vtir rims :P :D

McChook
17-03-2004, 05:15 PM
Bloody Bridgestone Grid III's have some grip.

Spoon-Accord
17-03-2004, 05:17 PM
ur right GIII's have awesome grip:D

bout the integra and prelude??

Prelude will rule just because of H22a :P

hehe go H22a!!!

Ken

Rowie
17-03-2004, 05:21 PM
thought we were talking Vtir Teg? :D

McChook
17-03-2004, 05:22 PM
I smashed the last civic VtiR I dragged. Was a coupe, and was down the Princes highway at St Peters. Had altezzas and a fart can muffler. I thought it was a VTi, until he went thru a red light and I saw the VTiR badge.....

Spoon-Accord
17-03-2004, 05:23 PM
i raced a type-R DC2.. i felt sorry for the guy.. got busted by a 4 door family tank

:D

Ken

McChook
17-03-2004, 05:29 PM
What have you done to the thing??

Spoon-Accord
17-03-2004, 05:34 PM
nothing mc chook.. just exhaust and airfilter..


Ken

ginganggooly
17-03-2004, 05:35 PM
from my stock vti-r experience there was approximately 2/3's of a gnats dick between the prelude and integra in outright, straight line speed.
however, the prelude feels much quicker and for everyday driving it is. the beauty of cubic inches.

afaik, both cars pull the same mid-low 15's at the strip.

i don't know wtf is up with jon's car. he's just got the mad skillz y0.

McChook
17-03-2004, 05:39 PM
Jon can drive.... I worked that out.

There are a few variables though when it comes to the two. Age is one, tyre condition is another. Small things make a difference

ginganggooly
17-03-2004, 05:50 PM
on a more serious note. if your clutch is slipping, then i'd be inclined to look at that rather than the tyres. i say that because my experience with the a539's was very good.
however, i have absolutely no substance to backup my statement :)

are you getting huge ammounts of wheelspin on the launch? i remember watching you go twice and both times it was your clutch slipping and not the tyres...

McChook
17-03-2004, 05:56 PM
the tyres are about 10% off bald....

The clutch is fine. Just when it gets hot, it slips a little too much...
when its cold, its fine...

RiP CITA :~(
17-03-2004, 06:00 PM
im only asking coz my g/f has a gen5 and i dont want to buy the same as hers so that why im thinking of getting a vtir teg but i have to have the faster car out of me and her il be making mods to my car I H E .

but if both cars had the same mods witch is faster

btw i was driving her car last night, dam they fly for a stock car
1st gear 63km
2nd 106
3rd i stoped at 140 i was in a 60 zone but i was no where near the red line

can any1 tell how the tegs go like that ?????

madgrk
17-03-2004, 06:02 PM
im only asking coz my g/f has a gen5 and i dont want to buy the same as hers so that why im thinking of getting a vtir teg but i have to have the faster car out of me and her il be making mods to my car I H E .

bahahhaa its a "my dick is bigger than yours" thing isnt it?

Dude it doesnt matter if you own a 400HP beast or a 160HP B16 VTiR Civic.. If you cant drive, you lose... simple.. :)

RiP CITA :~(
17-03-2004, 06:13 PM
i can drive bro no prob's der but yeah gotta have a faster car:P

joneblaze
17-03-2004, 06:27 PM
What do the 1/4 times say on paper? There's your answer there RiP.
IMO a DC2 VTiR would be more "versatile" for "speed" in all forms, but i'd be a little biased. As Matt has mentioned, a Prelude with good suspension components would go hardcore!



from my stock vti-r experience there was approximately 2/3's of a gnats dick between the prelude and integra in outright, straight line speed.
however, the prelude feels much quicker and for everyday driving it is. the beauty of cubic inches.

afaik, both cars pull the same mid-low 15's at the strip.

i don't know wtf is up with jon's car. he's just got the mad skillz y0.

You're way too kind brother... :oops: (imagine! a compliment from the man himself...heehee :D )


BTW, A Prelude VTiR IS faster than A DC4 GSi..... :roll:

luzinit
17-03-2004, 08:49 PM
lol, how did u go vs the pulsar SSS mcChooky?
just interested, i saw u guys take off but didnt know the result..

olda
17-03-2004, 09:02 PM
which would be faster? i mean stock!

POWER TO WEIGHT RATIO - ALWAYS :!: :!: :!:
VTiR TEG WILL EAT VTiR GEN 5 PRELUDE NO DRAMA :!: :!: :!:

kleenex
17-03-2004, 09:45 PM
no....prelude owns teg
no doubt
even a si can beat a civic vtir

UR2L8
17-03-2004, 10:29 PM
SpoonAccord: that typeR you raced, he/she prob wasnt trying that hard anyway. No way an accord would take on a stock R even if you had an exhaust and filter. Not trying to diss you its "just a fact of life".

McChook
17-03-2004, 10:41 PM
lol, how did u go vs the pulsar SSS mcChooky?
just interested, i saw u guys take off but didnt know the result..

Did him pretty easy with a slipping clutch and a missed gear

luzinit
18-03-2004, 01:10 AM
ahh sweet ;) easy kill then i guess?

this ongoing jon gsi vs ur car debate.. hehe...
i'd just like to point something out.
jon beat ur car with a dodgy clutch as well,, infact his clutch is on its way out any time soon....

anyways, get ur car fixed n tyres man, so we can do proper testing :P

McChook
18-03-2004, 01:12 AM
yeah, its a weird thing.
When its all sorted, it shouldn't be a problem...

bennjamin
18-03-2004, 01:19 AM
anyways, get ur car fixed n tyres man, so we can do proper testing :P

so...what i dont get is...to FURTHER confuse everyone and everything....
I beat 3 cars so far out of about 5 drags with teh mighty stocky Si. Decimated vti (tee hee) , beat gti and 2 vtirs ...all of which where more modded than my car .....but i was driving with slipping clutch , STOCK 185 rubber with about 2% grip ,dying dizzy etc etc. Yet I won.
It dosent matter if i come back tommorrow with all the bits fixed etc - im sure my car will be quite abit faster and more liking driving :)

But...the saying goes (as said before)

"...whether you win by an inch or a mile....a win is still a win."

Get over if Mchook - you lost :)

McChook
18-03-2004, 01:22 AM
I'm over it

luzinit
18-03-2004, 01:28 AM
**** u ben, u only won coz i have 2 shitty good years on front, 2 shitty trampios on back, one of which has hole puncture with 30 dollar hole repair kit, and also my car is fuly stock, unlike ur car which had jdm goodness exhaust and piping, oh yeh and also i didnt launch properly, and also your car is lighter, and also , oh yeh im a shit driver :D

bennjamin
18-03-2004, 01:35 AM
f*ck u ben, u only won coz i have 2 shitty good years on front, 2 shitty trampios on back, one of which has hole puncture with 30 dollar hole repair kit, and also my car is fuly stock, unlike ur car which had jdm goodness exhaust and piping, oh yeh and also i didnt launch properly, and also your car is lighter, and also , oh yeh im a shit driver :D

LOL....yes Im sure.
You put up a good fight.Who cares ? You got ur ass beaten by a slower , older, stockier car than urs....like Matt...get over it. You can race another day ;)

What JDM goodness helped me ? POON sock ? oh dear.........
and- u arent shit....u MUST of been using ur fone or seomthing lol...

McChook
18-03-2004, 01:36 AM
HEY MOTHER****ER
my car is more stock than Jon's

luzinit
18-03-2004, 01:39 AM
TANABE RACING MEDALLING M'fka! :)

yeh but mcchook, u seen jon's gsi's exhaust man?? size of springroll. surely on that merit alone, his car is the most stock.

bennjamin
18-03-2004, 01:40 AM
....like Matt...get over it. You can race another day ;)


*notice the emphasis on " Like Matt , GET over it" not on the sentence before;)

oh yeah -


WRONG .....

j00 hav front lip ;)

McChook
18-03-2004, 01:41 AM
I had an airfilter... thats it. and a few kilos of stereo...
no more than that

luzinit
18-03-2004, 01:42 AM
....like Matt...get over it. You can race another day ;)


*notice the emphasis on " Like Matt , GET over it" not on the sentence before;)

oh yeah -


WRONG .....

j00 hav front lip ;)

haha.. shiet.. we shud stop guys.. shud stop whorin other ppl's threads at 3am...

nite :)

mcchook: better watch out incase ur car has shit inside aircon n stuff tmr.
LOL

G33K
18-03-2004, 02:46 PM
hahaha you guys are funny. All of ya have fast cars.......thats it!

Back to topic.
Dont get a car coz its fast.........get it cos you like it.

[[d a n n y]]
18-03-2004, 03:54 PM
hm...this is a very funny thread...

mcchook i am still waiting for ur challenge mate

if u loose to me than that's it ey?

oh well

well for the topic i say that the TEG is a faster car...

how much heavier is the lude or the teg?

how much power does it make over the teg?

i say not enuff to overcome the weight difference..

McChook
18-03-2004, 03:57 PM
Danny, I'll challenge you. I really need an exhaust, but I'll still have a run to see how far I am behind.

The Prelude is 1268kg dry, 212nm, 141kw

[[d a n n y]]
18-03-2004, 04:03 PM
Danny, I'll challenge you. I really need an exhaust, but I'll still have a run to see how far I am behind.

The Prelude is 1268kg dry, 212nm, 141kw

mine is 900 ish KG's 120+ KW with the mods

but if ur correct of ludes being faster than the teg than i should b slower

cuz i did loose to steve on a rolling start..

but that's a different story

but i admitt i did loose

McChook
18-03-2004, 04:06 PM
Steve got me, so it'll be interesting.

Rolling starts are hard in the lude because the gears are really tall....

[[d a n n y]]
18-03-2004, 04:08 PM
hahaha

ok the reason i lost was it was a hill climb start

i jumped first but the torque on steves car got me

if u wanna find out

y dont u come out 2nite with steve and so on..

McChook
18-03-2004, 04:09 PM
if heaps of people go up, I might. But thornleigh is such a long way away

[[d a n n y]]
18-03-2004, 04:10 PM
oh well

backing off r we

that's fine... :P

McChook
18-03-2004, 04:11 PM
nah, Its an 80minute drive on a good night for me to get up there. and its a boring drive when your alone.

G33K
18-03-2004, 04:18 PM
OMG....i think i started another war!!!!!
Keep it safe guys....dont wanna look back one day thinking how nice it was to be able to walk. hahaha

totti
18-03-2004, 04:22 PM
stay out of it G33k if your to scared...lol


come on mat, you know u wanna, 3way drag :D

McChook
18-03-2004, 04:51 PM
3 way? no room...

pkn-xtc
18-03-2004, 08:49 PM
L O L !
the shit mobile lose to a gsi, thats about right...

joneblaze
18-03-2004, 09:02 PM
It's only a GSi..... :)

wynode
18-03-2004, 09:07 PM
Come on guys lets keep it on track :thumbsup:

bennjamin
18-03-2004, 09:18 PM
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mine is 900 ish KG's 120+ KW with the mods


950kg breeze - 1.3 + b16 = about a ton....

And 8 year old b16 thats sat siezed for past 6 years...plus "brent CAI piping + hiflow catback+ dodgy $75 header, WONT be 120+ kw.
Altho , the carbon build up on the pistons...MIGHT even bump up compression alittle LOL ... giving afew hextra ponies that were lost tee hee hee :P

pkn-xtc
19-03-2004, 12:02 AM
No, prelude IS Rowie. No opinions here, it just is. Fact of life... lol

Prelude is still quicker on the road. A stock Integra VtiR is not faster anywhere than the prelude. Was something I made sure of when I bought the car, first day I had the car, I was running a 'teg, and it wasn;t faster. In the twisties or in a straight line.


yeah, this is a load of bullshit. bullshit tends to surge out the mouth of idiots.
its a biased opinion.
How can you draw the conclusion that a vtir prelude is faster than a vtir integra based on this one integra u ran.
You can argue all day about who you beat and so on, but some cars just come out of factory with more power/faster than others. Good example is joneblaze's gsi or those R's at dyno day 1.
And due to the fact that these 2 cars are so closely contested, it may come down to a number of factors such drivers skill.
BUT the fact of the matter is that the prelude is not as fast as the integra according to honda on paper.
You should regard information from honda themself, not some brain dead idiot that talks alotta shit.
So tuck that peice of shit back into ur mouth McChook, coz its hanging out the side.

McChook
19-03-2004, 12:13 AM
Well, reality is better than paper....

G33K
19-03-2004, 12:31 AM
Come on guys lets keep it on track :thumbsup:

AGREED!

pkn-xtc, come on man......each to thier own....just leave it to the track....no need to talk like that bro. a honda is a honda.

pkn-xtc
19-03-2004, 04:12 AM
i have nothing against the prelude.
im actually quite a fan of the h22.
alrite then.. :thumbsup: for :honda:

RiP CITA :~(
19-03-2004, 05:58 AM
pkn-xtc thanks for stats coz thats what i wanted to know. :P

G33K
19-03-2004, 07:31 AM
pkn-xtc, Thanx bro.

Wicked, so i guess RIP CITA got his answer to his question.......
closing time?

[[d a n n y]]
19-03-2004, 10:28 AM
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mine is 900 ish KG's 120+ KW with the mods


950kg breeze - 1.3 + b16 = about a ton....

And 8 year old b16 thats sat siezed for past 6 years...plus "brent CAI piping + hiflow catback+ dodgy $75 header, WONT be 120+ kw.
Altho , the carbon build up on the pistons...MIGHT even bump up compression alittle LOL ... giving afew hextra ponies that were lost tee hee hee :P

nope sorry took my car to the waste dump while i was throwing shit away for work

925 with the shit in the boot which aint much..

haha

turst me it's 120KW +

McChook
19-03-2004, 10:48 AM
If your saying 120+kw at the engine, you are right.

[[d a n n y]]
19-03-2004, 10:52 AM
of course the engine not ATW fgure

McChook
19-03-2004, 10:53 AM
yeah, also put the power to weight ratio very low...

Calvo
19-03-2004, 10:56 AM
SpoonAccord: that typeR you raced, he/she prob wasnt trying that hard anyway. No way an accord would take on a stock R even if you had an exhaust and filter. Not trying to diss you its "just a fact of life".
its got a conversion done, and i believe also has a few nice goodies under the bonnet :D

McChook
19-03-2004, 11:16 AM
SpoonAccord: that typeR you raced, he/she prob wasnt trying that hard anyway. No way an accord would take on a stock R even if you had an exhaust and filter. Not trying to diss you its "just a fact of life".
its got a conversion done, and i believe also has a few nice goodies under the bonnet :D

It is more than possible. If a modified Prelude can do it, so can an Accord. There used to be a very hot Accord where I live that muched SS's and pretty much anything. A gen 5 accord, H22, high comp pistons, and mugen bits galore. It was a serious weapon.

Until he went too fast, had a police chase, and wound up around a tree. Nothing left of either him or the car

syked7
19-03-2004, 10:16 PM
i strongly agree

how about we end this thread as Mchooks vtir prelude being a fuked up shitbox!

how about that?
now i betcha every1 is happy yeh?
now lets make Mcchook chuck a shit on his hands and make him rub in all over his face cause his car is fuking shit
=)

G33K
19-03-2004, 11:51 PM
i strongly agree

how about we end this thread as Mchooks vtir prelude being a fuked up shitbox!

how about that?
now i betcha every1 is happy yeh?
now lets make Mcchook chuck a shit on his hands and make him rub in all over his face cause his car is fuking shit
=)

Seriously man.......is there a need for this kinda talking? Its people like you that make roads so dangerous to others. if you cant contribute positively then get lost.

madgrk
20-03-2004, 07:10 AM
is this guy joking? :s weird dude.... weird..

ginganggooly
20-03-2004, 11:09 AM
i strongly agree

how about we end this thread as Mchooks vtir prelude being a fuked up shitbox!

how about that?
now i betcha every1 is happy yeh?
now lets make Mcchook chuck a shit on his hands and make him rub in all over his face cause his car is fuking shit
=)

shit, i had no idea the school holidays were already upon us.
:roll:

Calvo
20-03-2004, 12:37 PM
syked7, u seriously have some problems mate. just coz ur parents sexually abused u as a child, there's no need to come onto the forum and share ur traumatic experiences with us all...