View Full Version : JAZZ as a good base for modifications
nickiipoohz
25-11-2005, 10:13 PM
hey guys, was thinking about what car to get next and found out that i can pick up a jazz for the same price as picking up an ek4. Just a question, are there alot of after market support for the jazz? also, is it worth doing up a jazz? not taking the engine into consideration, is the chassis strong enough for tracking? thanks guys
Miss Chanel
25-11-2005, 10:14 PM
Its not a good base for performance, but a good base to get riced up :thumbsup:
MoDCoN
25-11-2005, 10:16 PM
i guess it depends who you ask... ask the guys at spoon sports... why have they bothered with the jazz? cos it is do-able... so maybe give it a shot? you get a newer chassis, one that hasnt been driven hard....
asiansquad
25-11-2005, 10:58 PM
for cornering, it's pretty good..but for performance..nope
STTICH
25-11-2005, 11:17 PM
if u're comparing a jazz and an EK4.. go for the ek, nuf said :)
TypeG
25-11-2005, 11:34 PM
K20A
lol
air23box
26-11-2005, 12:53 AM
its a really good car to mod up for track beginners......its not under/over power and its easy to control.....plus you can find millions of stuff you can do with it......whether you like to do dressup......or just power or track work....its all up to you......EK is a really good car for track but its getting old......if you consider to get a civic....wait till next year coz honda is getting the new civic on Feb...but the Si won't be here just as yet....may need to wait for another half year or so........if for me I go Jazz....coz I got a Jazz and a DC5R...hehe
DC5R8
26-11-2005, 01:27 AM
if i were you ,im gonna get ek.
nickiipoohz
26-11-2005, 05:21 AM
its a really good car to mod up for track beginners......its not under/over power and its easy to control.....plus you can find millions of stuff you can do with it......whether you like to do dressup......or just power or track work....its all up to you......EK is a really good car for track but its getting old......if you consider to get a civic....wait till next year coz honda is getting the new civic on Feb...but the Si won't be here just as yet....may need to wait for another half year or so........if for me I go Jazz....coz I got a Jazz and a DC5R...hehe
yeah i feel the EK is getting old... EK4 only go to 98 models.. for that price i can get like a 03-04 model jazz lol... so you sure the DOHC vtec civic is coming out in australia? can any1 confirm this? thanks
spoon fit
26-11-2005, 05:44 AM
new civic new engine
panda
26-11-2005, 07:50 AM
theres a thread ask this question already you should do a search
imo jazz is a good daily driver, you want a more aggressive car go type r civic/integra or s2k
STTICH
26-11-2005, 09:16 AM
i too agree tat ek4 is getting abit old. but u're comparing an ek4 with 118kw to a jazz tat has 81kw.
even the ek CXi 1.6l sohc non-vtec produces a higher power output than 1.5l sohc vtec in the jazz. (88kw vs 81kw)
if u consider the price..u can get 2000 ek CXi (which is not tat old i reckon, and its facelift version :p ) cheaper than 03-04 jazz. stock to stock, the ek handles just as well if not better, and more power. and both cars' a good daily driver no doubt. :)
but mayb im bias ..cause i like eks. :D
TypeG
26-11-2005, 01:18 PM
I have EK4 b4, i do prefer a Jazz as it is a lot more comfort, save fuel, more practical and etc..... as EK4 is just not quick enough if u really serious in track. Get a Jazz and save up for an DC2R for track use.
plus the jazz looks cute :)
MRFIT
26-11-2005, 02:03 PM
even though Jazz may not be a good base for performance, the main reason that I'm moding my jazz is to improve the overall drivability of the car. I don't dream about dragging against others, but just want to be able to pick up speed more smoother with less effort, especially in city traffic or out of an corner......
BLKEM1
26-11-2005, 02:43 PM
even though Jazz may not be a good base for performance, the main reason that I'm moding my jazz is to improve the overall drivability of the car. I don't dream about dragging against others, but just want to be able to pick up speed more smoother with less effort, especially in city traffic or out of an corner......
Jazz is easy to drive already, how much improvement r u talking about??? to me modding a Jazz is a waste of $$$ (Exterior modding is acceptable). Less effort out of a corner??get good sussy! but once u have a good sussy you'll want more speed...then it goes on & on, end of the day just get a DC2R instead... :D
**Ghost**
26-11-2005, 03:01 PM
i guess it depends who you ask... ask the guys at spoon sports... why have they bothered with the jazz? cos it is do-able... so maybe give it a shot? you get a newer chassis, one that hasnt been driven hard....
spoon spors bothered iwth the jazz cos honda has not released jack shit for spoon to work with...
and stitch... y in the world id u buy ur jazz man!!! :confused: :wave: :p
sydney people: you lot better come to the jazz meet in sydney...refer to the upcoming events for more info :)
91'lude
26-11-2005, 04:02 PM
I have EK4 b4, i do prefer a Jazz as it is a lot more comfort, save fuel, more practical and etc..... as EK4 is just not quick enough if u really serious in track. Get a Jazz and save up for an DC2R for track use.
Nice post.
Basically, a Jazz is an economy car. The VTi model just has a tad more power than the non vtec. It is never going to be a track car unless you poor a absolute fortune to it. A DC2R is one of the ultimate honda track cars, for its price range, altho it may be out of yours. Concider a Integra VTiR or a Prelude VTiR (4th gen). Both of those are getting on in age, but if your really serious about making it a track car, are alot more suitable, and if maintained, shouldn't have too many problems.
Nice post.
Basically, a Jazz is an economy car. The VTi model just has a tad more power than the non vtec. It is never going to be a track car unless you poor a absolute fortune to it. A DC2R is one of the ultimate honda track cars, for its price range, altho it may be out of yours. Concider a Integra VTiR or a Prelude VTiR (4th gen). Both of those are getting on in age, but if your really serious about making it a track car, are alot more suitable, and if maintained, shouldn't have too many problems.
The jazz is no different than early 90's civic Si/Vti really.
the different between gli and vti is more than 20kw if i remember correctly and having driven both its a big diff.
Track car??? Where's tony when you need him? im quite sure he had very good laptimes in his jazz
TypeG
26-11-2005, 04:50 PM
but the fact is
if Tony sat on a dc2r, it will be so much more faster than he was in a Jazz
STTICH
26-11-2005, 06:42 PM
and stitch... y in the world id u buy ur jazz man!!! :confused: :wave: :p
i guess somthing went 'wrong'? :rolleyes:
haha..nah..to b honest, after i sold my eg, i wanted somthing new or i simply wasnt thinking too much when i bought the jazz. Don get me wrong tho, i don think it was so much a 'wrong' decision afterall as my jazz has pretty much turnout how i wanted it to and im very happy wth it. jazz is a good, cute and fun car to drive around :p altho mine is a particularly slow one, my milage accumulated proves it when i did 33000+kms after a year of ownership.
wanted to contribute how i feel in this thread as it compares a jazz and ek. put it this way..to choose again, stock vs stock, ek is the go for me. however..these 2 cars are great, either way it'll turn out good.
so pls choose wisely, and be happy wth wats been chosen :)
MRFIT
26-11-2005, 07:54 PM
Jazz is easy to drive already, how much improvement r u talking about??? to me modding a Jazz is a waste of $$$ (Exterior modding is acceptable). Less effort out of a corner??get good sussy! but once u have a good sussy you'll want more speed...then it goes on & on, end of the day just get a DC2R instead... :D
easy there big fella...... each to their own, right?
people mod their cars for their own reasons..... i DO feel the car response better, I DO feel the car pulls out of a corner better, i DO feel the car picks up speed smoother..... after i spent my money to mod my jazz..... sure.... jazz is easy to drive out of the show room...... but there is always way to improve it.... either for looks or performance..... sure DC2R would be nice to begin with for performance mod, but no everyone is able to pull out 40k to get a car.....
so once again, each to their own......
no flame needed......
cheers....
panda
26-11-2005, 09:08 PM
Jazz is easy to drive already, how much improvement r u talking about??? to me modding a Jazz is a waste of $$$ (Exterior modding is acceptable). Less effort out of a corner??get good sussy! but once u have a good sussy you'll want more speed...then it goes on & on, end of the day just get a DC2R instead... :D
i own and mod a jazz because thats my preference, for the price of my jazz i could have got 2x dc2r's, so whats your point?
and for your information the jazz responds well to mods, especially of the chasis type (lowering, bars etc) and until you own one you wouldnt know
I wouldnt by a jazz because its called jazz.
MRFIT
26-11-2005, 10:02 PM
I wouldnt by a jazz because its called jazz.
then don't.....
nobody is forcing you to buy one..... and learn to spell.....
vividjazz
26-11-2005, 10:30 PM
Wow an EM1. 22 to 25 year old 47kw 8 valve carburetor Civic. That's offically a vintage car (25 years old).
Don't call them Jazz anymore. Be way cool like the cool Civic people and call them GD1 through to GD5.
You drive a jazz, that explains your sensitivity.
MRFIT
26-11-2005, 10:47 PM
and you drive a EM1, that explains your jealousy.....
now..... everybody just get back to the topic..... and stop this non-sense..... ok?
chill.....
Jazz is not a GOOD base for mod
it might response relatively well compare to other 1.3l class car
but i won't call them "well" at all (performance)
they are engineering to be a cheap A-B car, not a hot hatch
i reckon the look pretty hawt actually...very stylish..sharp...it looks good..nice looking pocket rocket...
if only it had stock performance like a GTI-R
but overall not a bad car..you can mod it to make it look very good...much like the other jazz's here..only thing i dont like is the practical interior...but its interior is better than most cars in its range
Jus-10
27-11-2005, 10:37 AM
Lets just say that those who have them and have spent time on/with them know what they can do....
It makes it all the more worthwhile when you see all these haters pop up who have sweet NFI about it
Sure you aren't going to break any speed records with the thing, but then that's the case with most Hondas. Spend your money wisely (ie suspension) and you will have a very capable car that is extrememly practicle and that can still get up and mix it with the EKs..also, no one will ever suspect a thing (just look at some of the responses on here).
Just ask Petrovski who hit Wakefield with nothing more than sussy mods....
Miss Chanel
27-11-2005, 11:02 AM
You drive a jazz, that explains your sensitivity.
Oh dear.. what an essentialist comment.
Nonetheless, maybe guys that drive Jazzes are not trying to compensate for manhood in other departments... ?
TypeG
27-11-2005, 11:17 AM
if u drive an EM, just fxxk off as it worth less than our Jazz plus it is just not quick enough to compare with a Jazz still.
TypeG
27-11-2005, 11:22 AM
Jazz is not a GOOD base for mod
it might response relatively well compare to other 1.3l class car
but i won't call them "well" at all (performance)
they are engineering to be a cheap A-B car, not a hot hatch
what is your defination on a hot hatch?
all car suppose to be a A-B car anyway. If you car cant do that, :thumbdwn:
cheap or not depends on what is the market value
a s15 is only few k more than a Jazz nowdays so is that a cheap A-B car too?
yes it is not a good base for mod and it is a A-B car but it is not cheap as it costs $20k still
nickiipoohz
27-11-2005, 11:59 AM
thanks guys for all the responses... Probably getting another car early next year because im going to give my car away to my lil sister. Looking around atm and have fallen in love with the Jazz lol.
i used to think the same thing.. however the jazz grew on me too..
i'm quite happy with it..
what is your defination on a hot hatch?
all car suppose to be a A-B car anyway. If you car cant do that, :thumbdwn:
cheap or not depends on what is the market value
a s15 is only few k more than a Jazz nowdays so is that a cheap A-B car too?
yes it is not a good base for mod and it is a A-B car but it is not cheap as it costs $20k still
no offence, for u 20k might sound a lot, but not me.
how much a shitty comm whore worth? 30k? ;)
S15 is 1 of the CHEAPEST sport car available, still cost twice of the jazz vti-s when it's new though
u are right, the s15 is a bad A-B so i bought a R34 4dr for this application
Speeder
27-11-2005, 03:54 PM
what is your defination on a hot hatch?
yes it is not a good base for mod and it is a A-B car but it is not cheap as it costs $20k still
A hot hatch in my definition are raw, light weight, nimble, quickish, relatively inexpensive and must be a hatch shape. A value of a car is an subjective choice but the rest, Jazz does not cut it in the performance stakes. They were designed to comute from A-B in relative comfort and good economy, not as a hot hatch.
DC5R8
27-11-2005, 04:05 PM
its all depend on you mate!some ppl like ek series,bcoz its very easy to be moded. b18c type R engine transplant ,etc.and ek is very fast for track and at the corner.its a good car.i was thinking to get one if i found a good condition ek.
JAZZ is new generation car. however, jazz is a very practical car for family. you cant expect too much about JAzz i mean for drag and track.
OVERALL, different ppl have different views. do what u like!
spoon fit
27-11-2005, 04:55 PM
A hot hatch in my definition are raw, light weight, nimble, quickish, relatively inexpensive and must be a hatch shape. A value of a car is an subjective choice but the rest, Jazz does not cut it in the performance stakes. They were designed to comute from A-B in relative comfort and good economy, not as a hot hatch.
yes, hot hatch at least 1800cc
TypeG
27-11-2005, 06:06 PM
no offence, for u 20k might sound a lot, but not me.
how much a shitty comm whore worth? 30k? ;)
S15 is 1 of the CHEAPEST sport car available, still cost twice of the jazz vti-s when it's new though
u are right, the s15 is a bad A-B so i bought a R34 4dr for this application
well, still plenty of car cost less than 20k including an EK4 right? and nowaday you can pick up a s15 in good condition for $25k which is a driveaway price for a VtiS.
s15 is not a bad car for A-B as it is pretty new and comfort compare to other silvias
TypeG
27-11-2005, 06:17 PM
A hot hatch in my definition are raw, light weight, nimble, quickish, relatively inexpensive and must be a hatch shape. A value of a car is an subjective choice but the rest, Jazz does not cut it in the performance stakes. They were designed to comute from A-B in relative comfort and good economy, not as a hot hatch.
for me, when you modified your hatch and people said your car is Hot, that's a Hot Hatch for me.
Again, i do not think it is a good base for a quick car BUT if u have the cash, it can be DONE. I would rather get a DC2R for that.
one question.... which car is a hot hatch to you?(a general question)
Miss Chanel
27-11-2005, 06:20 PM
A golf r32, audi rs3, alfa romeo 147gta, ep3 civic type-R....????
Speeder
27-11-2005, 07:01 PM
A golf r32, audi rs3, alfa romeo 147gta, ep3 civic type-R....????
Wow Mags, nice selections of super hatches ;) or is this the other guy :rolleyes:
Serious note, yeah things like the golf mk1 Gti, clio sp, ek9, ep3, 205gti, starlet GT, mazda Familiar, pulsar GTiR, even the good ol' swift gti....mate the list goes on, and thats the true definition of a hot hatch, something that moves relatively well, stops, handles good, and importantly gives great feedback to the driver, without burning your wallet on super cars. But ppl have different opinions and that is fine, its their opinion.
Speeder
27-11-2005, 07:07 PM
for me, when you modified your hatch and people said your car is Hot, that's a Hot Hatch for me.
Again, i do not think it is a good base for a quick car BUT if u have the cash, it can be DONE. I would rather get a DC2R for that.
ofcause if you had unlimited source of capital, then you could make your Jazz take off into space, but maybe the S2k for example may cost less to shoot into space, rather then modifying a Jazz which might take more time and money for the same result. But again, this is IMO, still I think Jazz was designed not to be driven like sports cars, but hey when time moves on, people finds their own uses for things.
Miss Chanel
27-11-2005, 07:19 PM
Wow Mags, nice selections of super hatches ;) or is this the other guy :rolleyes:
Dammit :o
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Everyone, listen to Speeder, he knows his sh!t and i heard he's a very good driver :D
Speeder
27-11-2005, 07:25 PM
Dammit :o
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Everyone, listen to Speeder, he knows his sh!t and i heard he's a very good driver :D
HAHAHAHA, shut up you :p
TypeG
27-11-2005, 07:25 PM
ofcause if you had unlimited source of capital, then you could make your Jazz take off into space, but maybe the S2k for example may cost less to shoot into space, rather then modifying a Jazz which might take more time and money for the same result. But again, this is IMO, still I think Jazz was designed not to be driven like sports cars, but hey when time moves on, people finds their own uses for things.
lol
if compare to a s2k, drop a JDM K20A with DC5R brake will cost less than a s2k as they still go for $38k cheapest one and a Jazz with K20A is a beast.
TypeG
27-11-2005, 07:26 PM
A golf r32, audi rs3, alfa romeo 147gta, ep3 civic type-R....????
i can only afford a Golf GTi which is not yet close to all that selection.......:(
Speeder
27-11-2005, 07:29 PM
i can only afford a Golf GTi which is not yet close to all that selection.......:(
Haha, don't worry neither can I lol, Miss Chanel is being an idiot :p j/k, those cars mentioned is what i call a super hatch, a boiling hatch, not a hot hatch.
Btw, an S2k was used jusr as an example of the bigger picture...
nickiipoohz
27-11-2005, 08:13 PM
for me, when you modified your hatch and people said your car is Hot, that's a Hot Hatch for me.
Again, i do not think it is a good base for a quick car BUT if u have the cash, it can be DONE. I would rather get a DC2R for that.
one question.... which car is a hot hatch to you?(a general question)
well seriously.. im just looking for a car. Not to fuss about it being a performance car. Im driving a H22A powered accord atm with some sussy upgrades and it goes and handles pretty well. I was just asking if in any case in the future i may wanna upgrade the suspension setup on the jazz. But yeah Jazz is one of my "hot" hatches lol.
Wow an EM1. 22 to 25 year old 47kw 8 valve carburetor Civic. That's offically a vintage car (25 years old).
Wrong. An EM1 is a 5 to 6 year old 118Kw 16 Valve DOHC VTEC Civic Vti-R Coupe.
MRFIT
27-11-2005, 08:49 PM
Wrong. An EM1 is a 5 to 6 year old 118Kw 16 Valve DOHC VTEC Civic Vti-R Coupe.
i'm sure he knows what an EM1 is...... try to sense the tone of his 'voice'...... ;)
MRFIT
27-11-2005, 08:52 PM
no offence, for u 20k might sound a lot, but not me.
how much a shitty comm whore worth? 30k? ;)
S15 is 1 of the CHEAPEST sport car available, still cost twice of the jazz vti-s when it's new though
u are right, the s15 is a bad A-B so i bought a R34 4dr for this application
so r we comparing who's got more money here? is it?
bring it on!!!!!!!!!
grow up would you..... no point showing off with your $$.... ok? nobody cares...
i'm sure he knows what an EM1 is...... try to sense the tone of his 'voice'...... ;)
Ill give you tone of voice! "RAAAAAAAAAH"
MRFIT
27-11-2005, 08:55 PM
hehehe..... take it easy..... i'm just kidding here......
So what makes the vtir civic so special? cant you buy it in a lamo sohc engine with drum brakes? So obviously honda just tweaked with the suspension and put a hotter engine in their. Obviously with their current engine range its not exactly possible with a jazz and c'mon as if people would buy a jazz with a factory k20a, i mean the pricing would be same as a dc5r
Wow Mags, nice selections of super hatches ;) or is this the other guy :rolleyes:
Serious note, yeah things like the golf mk1 Gti, clio sp, ek9, ep3, 205gti, starlet GT, mazda Familiar, pulsar GTiR, even the good ol' swift gti....mate the list goes on, and thats the true definition of a hot hatch, something that moves relatively well, stops, handles good, and importantly gives great feedback to the driver, without burning your wallet on super cars. But ppl have different opinions and that is fine, its their opinion.
well my mates got early 90's swift gti and my jazz does cain easily it so wheres that put my jazz?
so r we comparing who's got more money here? is it?
bring it on!!!!!!!!!
grow up would you..... no point showing off with your $$.... ok? nobody cares...
who knows it might be financed
Speeder
28-11-2005, 04:21 PM
well my mates got early 90's swift gti and my jazz does cain easily it so wheres that put my jazz?
LOL, have you ever considered that in the early 90's that V8's were having trouble cracking 200kW at the engine? same thing can be said about the Swift GTi, when new in its era, it was an affordable car that was fun to drive. So what if your Jazz can caine one? when? where? how? you want a medal?? lol comparing an 90's hatch to a post 2000 hatch, I'd be embarrassed if I couldn't beat one with a decade of technology lol. I have driven both cars and the Swift although might not be refined it is a more pleasurable drive, while on the other hand Jazz is a very hairy car when pushed, more so then the Gti. You have to remmember that you cannot compare cars from different decade, they had different target market etc.
Ok lets go through my list of what makes a hot hatch:
1: Does a Jazz move relatively well? Well yes for a little car they are not bad at all.
2: Brakes are nothing out of the ordinary, does the job.
3: Does it handle? No
4: Driver involvment? No
5: Affordability, as said is completely subjective.
So in conclusion, Jazz IMO is not a hot hatch.
nickiipoohz
Jazz are very nice cars for daily commuting. If you want a car to do just that, then I'd go for the Honda Jazz or Toyota Yaris. Good luck.
Miss Chanel
28-11-2005, 04:49 PM
So in conclusion, Jazz IMO is not a hot hatch.
nickiipoohz
Jazz are very nice cars for daily commuting. If you want a car to do just that, then I'd go for the Honda Jazz or Toyota Yaris. Good luck.
Its a hot hatch when im driving it, thankyou very much.. and having gav in the car screaming at me does add a few ponies too.. lol.
But in all honestly, although its probably better than a Getz, it is a total waste of money doing 'performance enhancing' mods on a jazz- you will not get your money's worth.
JazzR
28-11-2005, 05:34 PM
Its a total waste of money modifying you car. Period. :D
I have driven both cars and the Swift although might not be refined it is a more pleasurable drive, while on the other hand Jazz is a very hairy car when pushed, more so then the Gti. You have to remmember that you cannot compare cars from different decade, they had different target market etc.
pleasurable drive, in what way? its all subjective. Every person that has driven my jazz has said that they wished it had more guts(except the 318i driver) to match the gearbox which had them green in envy, one drives a dc5r, one drives a current model 325i and other 2002 318i:) and said they've never come across as enjoyable gearbox.
But if the jazz can run a 16.5 with cat-back exhaust and intake then i dont see it as exactly slow in its class just cause its not sizzling out of the factory doesnt exactly mean anything.
But in all honestly, although its probably better than a Getz, it is a total waste of money doing 'performance enhancing' mods on a jazz- you will not get your money's worth.
but what is your moneys worth? time slip? just like nerds with their overlocking scores.
Im quite happy with my mods and would like to do more but i know what im gonna buy next will have more potential with $$$ spend but running costs will be more expensive.
But what i've tested on my jazz over 2yrs ive gotten enjoyment out of suprising people who think that the jazz is just a slow car
But you'll always find something thats faster than my car and quite frankly faster than any car on the road and exactly why im buying a car with a bent engine and with about 4 grand ill get it into high 12's/very low 13's easily but not to brag and the car will probly never see a strip but i know it'll be capable of it...
Its a total waste of money modifying you car. Period. :D
it is, ive got everyone telling me i should save and invest and enjoy in 7-15yrs
Miss Chanel
28-11-2005, 06:53 PM
but what is your moneys worth? time slip? just like nerds with their overlocking scores.
Im quite happy with my mods and would like to do more but i know what im gonna buy next will have more potential with $$$ spend but running costs will be more expensive.
But what i've tested on my jazz over 2yrs ive gotten enjoyment out of suprising people who think that the jazz is just a slow car
But you'll always find something thats faster than my car and quite frankly faster than any car on the road and exactly why im buying a bent engine and with about 4 grand ill get it into high 12's/very low 13's easily but not to brag and the car will probly never see a strip but i know it'll be capable of it...
Sorry to doubt you but could you tell me what mods for 4k is going to get a jazz into 12s???? And what exactly do you mean by 'bent engine'?
4 cylinder cars running one bar of boost would get into the 12s if theyr lucky :rolleyes:
Speeder
28-11-2005, 07:22 PM
Sorry to doubt you but could you tell me what mods for 4k is going to get a jazz into 12s???? And what exactly do you mean by 'bent engine'?
4 cylinder cars running one bar of boost would get into the 12s if theyr lucky :rolleyes:
I dont think muli is talking about the Jazz, bent engine is a V shaped engines, rather then our inline engines.
Speeder
28-11-2005, 07:27 PM
But if the jazz can run a 16.5 with cat-back exhaust and intake then i dont see it as exactly slow in its class just cause its not sizzling out of the factory doesnt exactly mean anything.
Did I say a Jazz was slow?????????????????????????????
Please tell me if I did????
Yeah ok driving a car is a subjective feeling, but a car that responds to the driver input is another. I will leave it there. No point arguing :rolleyes:
Btw, muli just for curiosity have you ever driven a "performance" car in your lifetime?
Catcha
28-11-2005, 07:34 PM
Go buy a swift GTI when it comes out :)
Did I say a Jazz was slow?????????????????????????????
Please tell me if I did????
Yeah ok driving a car is a subjective feeling, but a car that responds to the driver input is another. I will leave it there. No point arguing :rolleyes:
Btw, muli just for curiosity have you ever driven a "performance" car in your lifetime?
R33 GTS-T, VU SS ute, MY99 WRX, 79 Porsche SC and TT supra and DC5R and HSV R8 but what do you see as a "performance" car what about a renault clio sport, mx5? From that list my pick would be the porsche my favourite as it was rough as anything but extremely enjoyable and kept you on your toes at all times and thats the list of cars i drove before i bought my jazz excluding the hsv and DC5R.
MRFIT
28-11-2005, 07:43 PM
Mod, i think now its a good time to close this thread..... we have people here in the Jazz thread to say how shit and worthless the jazz are..... i don't think this thread is goign anywhere....
we all appreciate what cars we got..... if we are happy to spend money on it, so be it.... jsut like may be its worth it for me to buy a $3k TAG watch, but others may not agree...... doesn't mean that they should impose their ideas on me.....
look, lets just call it a day...... temperature is raising here as we speak..... its going to be an allout flame war.....
Since thread is posted in the Jazz Section, let the owners of the jazz to respond to this thread: Is Jazz a good base for modification? OK?
all you other guys are more than welcome to comment or flame if its in the Lounge....
enough said.....
hope everyone here just get along, gosh, don't treat here like a amusement park....
Joey
tRipitaka
28-11-2005, 07:47 PM
well, after seeing MRFIT's car..
i'm convinced the jazz is a good base for mods
JazzR
28-11-2005, 07:58 PM
*sigh*
MRFIT
28-11-2005, 08:06 PM
well, after seeing MRFIT's car..
i'm convinced the jazz is a good base for mods
yeah, its got plenty of space for the stickers..... :D
nickiipoohz
28-11-2005, 09:18 PM
cool cool.. how about with some suspension mods such as cusco coilovers, will the jazz be able to handle well? i dont mean handle better im asking if it's chassis design is good.
cool cool.. how about with some suspension mods such as cusco coilovers, will the jazz be able to handle well? i dont mean handle better im asking if it's chassis design is good.
spoon seems to think so, havent got a link to the article, im sure someone does
MRFIT
28-11-2005, 09:41 PM
http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/features/0308ht_spoonfit/
try this one..... :)
nickiipoohz
28-11-2005, 09:50 PM
whoa thats pretty mad.
hehe dont be too modest joey
sassy_fit_vtit
28-11-2005, 10:19 PM
go for the jazz.. its difficult to work with in regards to performance but if ur a car fanatic.. like me.. nothing is impossible well at least if u have money and a bit of creativity.. look around on the net and see if u can get any inspiration from other cars before u choose to buy ur car
sassy_fit_vtit
28-11-2005, 10:20 PM
ne hu ur a legend if u can do something crazy to a jazz.. but everythings been done with the civic.. just anther car on the rrad.. thats y i went from a supra to a turb jazz
panda
29-11-2005, 10:07 AM
http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/features/0308ht_spoonfit/
try this one..... :)
rofl thats the article that gives some people the impression that the fit can be as fast as a nsx :confused:
MRFIT
29-11-2005, 10:41 AM
well.... its only in the endurance race.... :)
hehe reminds me of a story i used to read growing up..
"the lil jazz that could.." lol :P
Jus-10
30-11-2005, 08:39 AM
Stop flirting with each other guys....
A stock Jazz is pretty scary to drive fast, especially on the OEM tyres....
Suspension mods will give you the single biggest improvement....everyone who has been in my car since I added my suspension mods can't get their smile off their face when they step out.
I am by no means dillusional as to the performance of the car. I have to ring the sh*t out of it to get it up and moving even slightly fast, but it is still as quick as all the falcadores out there and it handles better than them too!
At the same time I don't have to (nor does anyone else here) justify the reasons behind why I do what I do.
For me the Jazz offers the best all round ability in it's price range. It's small, inconspicuous, economical, has heaps of room, is well built and with a few well thought out mods is great fun to whip around the streets or the track.
I am always more than happy for potential Jazz owners/modders to come and check out my car and come for a spin so they can see the potential for fun first hand
As for the haters, well so be it, but we don't need you trolling the forum bad-mouthing and judging the thoughts/likes of others.
Stop flirting with each other guys....
A stock Jazz is pretty scary to drive fast, especially on the OEM tyres....
I am by no means dillusional as to the performance of the car. I have to ring the sh*t out of it to get it up and moving even slightly fast, but it is still as quick as all the falcadores out there and it handles better than them too!
the vtis with its potenzas actually performs much better than the vti or gli and yeah the jazz will keep up with the falcodores but it does need to be revved the crap out off to get it moving.
U gona hit the drags with ur current setup jus-10
I think my jazz handles fine...it's runnning 17inch rims with 205/40 rubber with king lows...swaybars may be looked into going forward...
alvz
Jus-10
30-11-2005, 03:37 PM
U gona hit the drags with ur current setup jus-10
The stockies are going back on this week (maybe tonight) in preparation...if only the bloody rain would stop down here!
Hopefully I can get out there before Christmas because the car is due for a service (I will go out before I get it serviced so I can change the oil just after)
Jazzle
30-11-2005, 05:57 PM
yeah i heard tires on vti and gti r crap.. but the potenza on vtis is great.. really good!
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