R owners, LSD Qs

[doriemon]

how can u tell if u have a lsd in the car? i know all Rs have LSD fitted, but how can u tell there is one? i know how to tell if its a RWD, but not a FWD

and what kind of LSD does it have from the factory? 1 way or 1.5 way or anything else?

thanks

[injektd]

jack it up, spin one front wheel
if the other spins freely with it chances are you have lsd..

[BiGANG]

rev the **** out of your car,
sidestep the clutch,
hold foot on accel pedal for a bit.
roll a bit down the road after you backed off.
if there is one line -NO LSD
two lines - YAY for you, your car is LSD equipped most likely

[T-onedc2]

how can u tell if u have a lsd in the car? i know all Rs have LSD fitted, but how can u tell there is one? i know how to tell if its a RWD, but not a FWD

and what kind of LSD does it have from the factory? 1 way or 1.5 way or anything else?

thanks
The ITR has a helical LSD, far superior to viscous LSD commonly used in production vehicles as it doesn't suffer the power loss in comparison at the wheels.

[bennjamin]

rev the **** out of your car,
sidestep the clutch,
hold foot on accel pedal for a bit.
roll a bit down the road after you backed off.
if there is one line -NO LSD
two lines - YAY for you, your car is LSD equipped most likely

stupid response...DONT try this thanks. Illegal and will damage your clutch / tyres / reputation. BTW a non-LSD car will sometimes leave "two" skid marks so that theory goes out the window.

afaik Another way is to remove both driveshafts and look thru the differential housing...if there is a bar across its a open diff and if you can see plain thru then its a LSD of some sort.

[[JDM_DC2]]

Jack the car up and spin one front wheel and if the other front wheel is spinning the other way means you have no LSD, its just an ordinary open diff...:o

[[XsCaPe]]

my vtir usually leaves two lines...

[IN73GZ]

']my vtir usually leaves two lines...
:thumbsup:
so does my da9 :wave:

[SKREMN]

one stock box did as well
but now i cant get as good lines coz i grabs better

[dc2r]

just look at ur gearbox from the view of looking down at ur engine bay and u should read "LSD" on it...

[locote]

']Jack the car up and spin one front wheel and if the other front wheel is spinning the other way means you have no LSD, its just an ordinary open diff...:o


acctualy dude if the other wheel spins the opposite way means you have a LSD, if it dont spin means your diff is open:)

[BiGANG]

was only joking guys jeez..

[weezer]

was only joking guys jeez..

of course you were. We all know that you need to pull the handbrake first before doing it :D

[doriemon]

thx for all the info guys
and other question..
can u tell if there is one in the car while u are driving it?
will it handle differently or have some sort of noise or something? just like the rwds

[Andys]

In normal/sane driving there's not much if any difference.

But I found the difference to be huge when under certain difficult conditions. Examples:

1. taking a tight a corner too fast and flooring it on the way out. no LSD = wheel spin/loss of traction. LSD = the car pulls through with traction at both wheels

2. accelerating hard over bumps, especially if its raining or the bumps are really bad. no LSD = as soon as one wheel loses traction, it tends to spin up and doesnt' regain traction until you let off the throttle and allow the engine to spin down again. With LSD = no need to let off throttle, the car jerks a bit but keeps pulling through

3. at the track (Wakefield), no wheel spin when powering out of a corner :)

[taizon]

Got another LSD question..

is it possible to break the LSD system on the Type R?
if it's possible, how can you tell?... will the car still drive as normal?

if the LSD system breaks. will doing the "jacking up, and wheel spinning test" act as if there is no LSD on the car?

hope i made some sence, lookin at dc2r's. and just wanna make sure everythin is workin fine.

[air23box]

I see one of the test did by hattori naoki in FF driving technique , one of the special serious of Best motoring, not available in Eng though.....The test is as follows...
location : Full wet test course
method : run a EK Sir and a DC2R to 60km. apply brake until front wheel loss traction.
Then you will see
Ek both wheel spin the same way and it didn't help to stop the car.
DC2R one wheel doing front spin and other doing rear spin. it acturally help to slow the car down.....
for the 2nd question....its 1 way LSD on the Rs...
under driving situation. the car will behave different if you track it..it pull the car out of the corner...non LSD car you can feel the power and understeer in the same time......not that much different if you drive <normal> on the road....hope that helps...

[T-onedc2]

Got another LSD question..

is it possible to break the LSD system on the Type R?
if it's possible, how can you tell?... will the car still drive as normal?

if the LSD system breaks. will doing the "jacking up, and wheel spinning test" act as if there is no LSD on the car?

hope i made some sence, lookin at dc2r's. and just wanna make sure everythin is workin fine.
Taken from Speed Magazine issue 16 (2004) p134 article "Front-End Loader"

(Note: these words come from a Honda technician and DC2R owner)

......As long as diff oil is regularly replaced, you can expect a long, trouble-free life.
"Being gear-type instead of clutch-type, they could handle a lot more power," explains Matthew. "I've only heard of people breaking driveshafts, but that was while doing 9000rpm launches on race tyres. I've never heard of anyone blowing a diff."

Hope it helps.:)

[SKREMN]

I broke the lsd in my car and it wasnt drivable
and both wheel spun freely as where they both spun with eachother before the breakage

after i changed to an ITR LSD i have only broken drive shafts and shreaded the final drive gear

[string]

acctualy dude if the other wheel spins the opposite way means you have a LSD, if it dont spin means your diff is open:)
Err no... If you spin one and the other spins the opposite way you have an open diff. Perhaps you should lookup how they actually work.

[BlitZ]

as if your gonna remove all you drive shafts to figure if you have LSD.. thats just over extreme..

Just do a burn out in you drive way in the wet.. and get your mates to watch.. eheheh

i never u can leave 2 skid marks in a fwd.. especially one with no LSD....

[timofytit]

rev the **** out of your car,
sidestep the clutch,
hold foot on accel pedal for a bit.
roll a bit down the road after you backed off.
if there is one line -NO LSD
two lines - YAY for you, your car is LSD equipped most likely

Lol, do it in your driveway like i did, its legal that way.

[timofytit]

thx for all the info guys
and other question..
can u tell if there is one in the car while u are driving it?
will it handle differently or have some sort of noise or something? just like the rwds

Yes, they handle heaps better