USA model to be called Fit?

[claymore]

......

[spoon fit]

same as brazi

[08ESE]

hey check out the grille and front bumper

doesnt look too bad

i think americans rate their hp differently to us so its probably the same?

[muli]

there's be some serious mods available as soon as this hits america

[civiceg9]

US Fuel is crappy
have Ethanol in it.

[FB008]

hooray fit is coming to the US.

BS they can't reveal info about it, ffs info is everywhere :p

[bigdongers]

you can get that same grill in Aus as an option.

[EuroAccord13]

The Jazz I see in Singapore are called Fit too... with a BIG BLUE DOT....

[Fit1500_GD3]

Very nice Fit2006.

[saxman]

Where do you guys come up with this stuff ????? "US Fuel is crappy have Ethanol in it." You can get Ethanol IF YOU ORDER IT AND WANT IT AND PULL UP TO THE PROPER PUMP , but not all the gasoline in the USA has it. Come on give us the source of this piece of wisdom, you can't just make blanket statements without facts to back it up.
um, no. You don't get any choice if you want ethanol in the gas or not.

most gas stations have 4 options for gas.
87 octane, 89 octane, 91 octane, and diesel(the octane values will vary a bit by area).

It's important to note that the reason US gas seems so much worse then gas elsewhere is because we use a different rating system. Most countries rate their gas in RON ratings. Your 87 octane wouldn't be equivalent to our 87 octane. The US rates their gas by averaging the RON and MON ratings of the gas. Generally, this results in a rating about 5 points lower than elsewhere.

Also, what's wrong with ethanol in the gasoline? It acts much like soap does in water, decreasing surface tension between molecules, allowing far better atomization. In fact, many people have experienced significant increases in gas milage and performance by ADDING a small amout of ethanol to the fuel supply.


So come on, give us the source of this piece of wisdom, you can't just make blanket statements without facts to back it up.

[MRFIT]

US market should definitly release more after market parts for the jazz/fit....

but what caught my eyes on the site was the new Civic Si coupe..... wow..... don't think its ever gonna make it down here in Oz though.....:(

[civiceg9]

Where do you guys come up with this stuff ????? "US Fuel is crappy have Ethanol in it." You can get Ethanol IF YOU ORDER IT AND WANT IT AND PULL UP TO THE PROPER PUMP , but not all the gasoline in the USA has it. Come on give us the source of this piece of wisdom, you can't just make blanket statements without facts to back it up.

Not just some blanket statement, alot of ppl know US have been using a blend of E10 in there fuel since the CAA Amendments in 1990, this is to cut down all the pollution and demand on fuel use. The US actually pushes ppl to use blends of E10, and in some case they have cars which can use up to E85. What more u need to burn more Ethanol to get the same power hence you are using more per gallon/litre. Do a search on this forum as there were ppl talking about Shell Optimax Ultra which uses E10 in there 100octane fuel. Aussie cars so far are not design to run on E10, but all future car they will all be able to use it.

Here are some info about Ethonal use in the states

In the United States, one out of every eight gallons of gasoline sold contains ethanol. Most of this ethanol is purchased as blends of 10% ethanol and 90% gasoline, known as gasohol or E10, and is used as an octane enhancer to improve air quality.
If you are driving a flexible fuel vehicle, you have the opportunity to fuel with E85, a blend of 85% ethanol and 15% gasoline. For more information on flexible fuel vehicles or E85, visit the Alternative Fuels Data Center (http://www.eere.energy.gov/afdc/). For more information on E10 and other low-level ethanol blends, read on.

Ethanol is a colorless liquid that is distilled from agricultural crops — usually corn. Most ethanol is produced in the grain-growing states of the midwestern United States. The U.S. Department of Energy is also exploring ways to make ethanol from crop wastes like corn stover and switchgrass.

The Clean Air Act Amendments of 1990 mandated the use of oxygenated gasoline in areas with unhealthy levels of carbon monoxide. At the time, the primary oxygenates were ethanol and MTBE. Subsequently, MTBE has been found to contaminate ground water supplies, and the demand for ethanol has increased significantly. The Renewable Fuels Standard, mandated by the Energy Policy Act of 2005, calls for the gradual escalation of biofuels use in the United States. This legislation should stimulate the use of biofuels like ethanol and biodiesel from 4 billion gallons in 2006 to 7.5 billion gallons by 2012. Visit the Renewable Fuels Association (http://www.ethanolrfa.org/) Web site for more information about the Renewable Fuels Standard (http://www.ethanolrfa.org/resource/standard/).

[civiceg9]

Benefits


Ethanol is domestically produced and allows us to reduce our use of imported petroleum
Ethanol emits less carbon monoxide than gasoline
Adding oxygenates like ethanol to gasoline reduces carbon monoxide emissions
Ethanol production supports U.S. farmers and creates jobs
Performance

All auto manufacturers approve the use of low-level ethanol blends. Ethanol blends (10% or less) are successfully used in all types of vehicles and engines that require gasoline. From a consumer perspective, there is no noticeable difference in vehicle performance when low-level ethanol blends are used. Because there is a slight difference in the energy content of ethanol and gasoline, there may be a slight reduction in vehicle fuel economy when using ethanol.

Availability

Fuel ethanol blends are sold in every state, and ethanol blends make up nearly 100% of the gasoline sold in carbon monoxide and ozone nonattainment areas during certain months of the year.

Cost

Although ethanol is more expensive to produce than gasoline, federal tax incentives reduce the price to a competitive level. Ethanol prices tend to vary regionally due to availability and promotional efforts by retailers.

Additional Resources

Learn how low-level ethanol blends affect emissions, what to expect regarding fuel performance and availability, and read about pertinent costs, incentives, and regulations. Download the Low-Level Ethanol Fuel Blends Fact Sheet (PDF 268 KB (http://www.eere.energy.gov/cleancities/blends/pdfs/37135.pdf)) Download Adobe Reader (http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html).

For additional information on ethanol blends, visit


Alternative Fuels Data Center (http://www.eere.energy.gov/afdc/)
U.S. Department of Energy's Biomass Program (http://www.eere.energy.gov/biomass/)
The Renewable Fuels Association (http://www.ethanolrfa.org/)
EERE Information Center (http://www.eere.energy.gov/cleancities/informationcenter.html), 877-EERE-INF or 877-337-3463
National Ethanol Vehicle Coalition (http://www.e85fuel.com/)

[saxman]

they are not sold at special pumps... you can't pull up to a gas station and go "hmm, I wonder if I want ethanol or not"

it's something that is added into the gas automatically at certain times of the year, etc.

but hey, what do I know... it's not like I live in the US or not

[civiceg9]

they are not sold at special pumps... you can't pull up to a gas station and go "hmm, I wonder if I want ethanol or not"

it's something that is added into the gas automatically at certain times of the year, etc.

but hey, what do I know... it's not like I live in the US or not

Thanks Saxman for pointing it out
Been trying to point out that fuel in the states are blended with E10 I think I read it somewhere that its blend all the time now in all major cities and other small places are blend like 270day of the year, so I guess the other 95days is good fuel day lol :D , the main thing I am saying is Ethanol needs to burn more to create the same energy. E10 has a higher vapor pressure than pure fuel, which gives the fuel a higher volatility. This increased volatility can cause higher evaporative emissions of light hydrocarbon from the fuel. It is this Higher vapor pressure which cause problems through fuel system components, although this is expected to decrease as fuel systems continue to meet new standards for evaporative emissions.

[EuroAccord13]

Since when this became a debate about petrol in America?????

[saxman]

You don't live in the states you live in the democratic republic of California, which has different rules then the rest of the states. And yes they do have seperate pumps in the rest of the world, if you want it you buy it. Calif. is the biggest non compliant state of all so you get it all the time.

Congrats on assuming I've lived here all my life and never travel out of state.

[civiceg9]

I think for someone that lives in the US would know more than someone living in Thailand.

EuroAccord13, I think it will soon be about Aus and Jap fuel soon lol. :D
not going to reply anymore I give up.

[Jus-10]

Keep it OT guys.

[jonniedee]

Ethanol content does not only vary from state to state but can even change in larger cities vs. state wide - I live between Detroit and Chicago and we get a much lower percentage blend year round compared to the bigger cities.
The EPA don't ya know :rolleyes: