Crower Cams

[KB]

Iv'e been looking into crower cams the past few weeks as a method to extract more power from my D16y8. My problem is that ther cams come in 4 forms.

Stock replacement: slighly better than stock ;)
Stage 1 : More agressive :)
Stage 2 : street/strip :o
Stage 3 : race only :P

My question is what is the most agressive camshaft i could put on without sacrificing drivablity while extracting most power. eg I don't want to be driving around down when my car involintarily self implodes on itself causing a black hole to form.

[VTEC16]

you are the only one that can make the decision. Its sounds like you are choosing between stages 1 and 2. Stage 2 you will probably notice a drop in power lower in the rev range, but you should have bigger gains than stage 1 up high.

...so its your call....your the one that has to drive it everyday...

[pornstar]

meh, sif not go stage stupidity! lolz

in all seriousness, u can just dump abit more fuel at idle so it can idle really ruff, but sound awesome!

[94vtirozguy]

stage 2 is ideal with street/strip setup. Some of the crowers have modified idle lobe to idle like stock anyway

[VTi-RT]

With the more aggressive cam, you'll need to get better valve springs as stocky springs will not handle the bigger motions. This is of course for the more wilder cam.

You can go even further get the stage 2 or 3 cam, springs, and an adjustable cam gear to really get things going.

;)

[UR2L8]

http://www.metabomber.com/projects/crx/camspecs.html

It might not be for your engine but might give you some in depth tech specs of most cams.

[BLKCRX]

iv done a lot of testing.. on a number of car's and hmm well to cut a long story short.. crower cam's are weak !! and no where as good as a set of Toda spec B's.. and the Toda C's shit all over anything i have every tried

Regards James

[VTi-RT]

for NA, I would go Jun Stage 3 or Toda.

BLKCRX, explain what's so weak about the Crower cams?

[KB]

thanks for input guys. much appreciated.....

LOL meh.. mabye i should just get a turbo :)

[online]

we use Crower cams in most of our turbo and NA cars, they work really well.. we have found that the stage 2 street/race cam needs more comp to work to it's peak performance in a B16A or B18C..

[SIKCVC]

who to belive, Online, BlkCRX, both chasing Aussies Fastest FWD, both CRX, only one running B16 and full street legal and still running 11s... hhhmmmm not to mention not running max boost yet :P

Still it is a hard one, Onlines a very reputable name...

Got anything to say about toda Cams?

[online]

absolutely nothing wrong with Toda's.. they are a awesome cam.. dealt with Crower from day one so i think they are a good product for a good price..

[SIKCVC]

Oh ok cool :D. How much would i be looking at for some mild+ cams for b16? have any idea? and what springs and valves have you used in conjunction with these cams.

[razztech]

I have put Toda Spec C's in James car (BLKCRX). Ive used Toda Cams for a long time, and also Crowers. Both are good products, the choice is yours.

Call me if you are interested for pricing and details.

[2DR33M]

i have a B18A integra LS and i was interested in Cower or Toda cams.. what the difference in price really ?

I woul dmore than likely want a stage 2 setup, but would it be practical for everyday use

Tim .

[SPEEDCORE]

While we are on the topic of cams....... Toda B spec in B16....... 11.5 CR good balance of performance and reliability...... or still not enough CR for them. I have searched and searched but there is so much BS going around its not funny.

What would you say is the minimum CR that you should be using with Toda B's or cams of similar spec..... I was thinking 11.0 would be the minimum as running anything lower would be a waste of time.

Please enlighten me...